How do you deal with 'Tailgaters' ?

Carpentry

Carpentry wrote: »

But they do teach you to look forward down the road and try to predict any hazards on the road so you should slow down anyway seeing children playing near the road, sudden braking not going to save their lives... common sense

That's one of the stupidest things I've ever read

jpb1974

Carpentry wrote: »

But they do teach you to look forward down the road and try to predict any hazards on the road so you should slow down anyway seeing children playing near the road, sudden braking not going to save their lives... common sense

Life ain't that simple... the need to brake suddenly can happen for lots more reasons.

OldNotWIse

Carpentry wrote: »

But they do teach you to look bit futher down the road and try to predict any hazards on the road so you should slow down anyway seeing children playing near the road, sudden braking not going to save their lives... common sense

Regardless of how good a driver you are, sudden breaking is a necessary fact of life at times. A child can run out from between two parked cars for example.

Carpentry

Snotaul Goodman wrote: »

That's one of the stupidest things I've ever read

Does that mean that you just simply don't give a f... about what's going on the road around you ?

Feel sorry for you....

...and by the way, it should have been "most stupid thing"

Philo Beddoe

It's amazing how often the term 'common sense' is used to mean 'popular ignorance'.

Carpentry

Philo Beddoe wrote: »

It's amazing how often the term 'common sense' is used to mean 'popular ignorance'.

I'd say common sense is what's the people in this country missing the most

Tokyo

Carpentry wrote: »

Does that mean that you just simply don't give a f... about what's going on the road around you ?

Feel sorry for you....

...and by the way, it should have been "most stupid thing"

I would argue that driving under duress with some ****wit driver inches from your rear bumper doesn't make you a safer, more aware driver, but that's just me.

Added to that that your braking distance is going to be the least of your worries if a kid runs out in front of you and you have the basic physics of another couple of tonnes of vehicle behind you propelling your forwards.

anncoates

Get out of their way. Give them the finger. Life's too short to do dangerous stuff like brake in front of them and slowing down will just enrage the fools into dangerous overtaking.

With any luck they'll end up a serious crash eventually.

Carpentry

Keep looking in the rear view mirror on the car behind definitely not going to help either

lertsnim

veryangryman wrote: »

Pull into the nearest hard shoulder momentarily to allow them to pass. What's the issue?

If the weather is absolutely **** and it's dark, there are times when you would have no idea what might be in the hard shoulder.

People driving on the hard shoulder is one of my pet hates.

FullblownRose

Carpentry wrote: »

But they do teach you to look bit futher down the road and try to predict any hazards on the road so you should slow down anyway seeing children playing near the road, sudden braking not going to save their lives... common sense

Please go back and have a few more lessons.

What you call confidence in your own (or a tailgaters) driving ability is actually overestimating your ability and its arrogant and dangerous.

Having read the justifications on this thread I realise now that tailgaters arent a bit ashamed, they actually think theyre great drivers - when they are a menace!

I never used to report people but I'm going to start reporting tailgaters from now on. At least that way I might save them from learning the hard way!

anncoates

veryangryman wrote: »

What's the issue?

Being bellicose, bullying sh1t heads that cause the majority of pile ups on motorways might be one of them.

Carpentry

FullblownRose wrote: »

Please go back and have a few more lessons.

What you call confidence in your own (or a tailgaters) driving ability is actually overestimating your ability and its arrogant and dangerous.

Having read the justifications on this thread I realise now that tailgaters arent a bit ashamed, they actually think theyre great drivers - when they are a menace!

I never used to report people but I'm going to start reporting tailgaters from now on. At least that way I might save them from learning the hard way!

And how are you going to judge whats tailgating and what is just simple driving behind ?

FullblownRose

Carpentry wrote: »

And how are you going to judge whats tailgating and what is just simple driving behind ?

Dear God!
If you don't know how to tell the difference please tell me youre not a driver!

anncoates

Carpentry wrote: »

And how are you going to judge whats tailgating and what is just simple driving behind ?

Having basic brain activity.

jpb1974

Carpentry wrote: »

And how are you going to judge whats tailgating and what is just simple driving behind ?

Common sense? (*Deja vu moment)

Carpentry

FullblownRose wrote: »

Dear God!
If you don't know how to tell the difference please tell me youre not a driver!

I actually am, been driving few years and never had a single moment of trouble on the road.

But I can tell you one thing. People who call other drivers tailgaters usually leave acres of space between the cars and then tend to catch the light sometimes going through the junction on red light and that's dangerous without doubt, or by leaving so big spaces between cars cause thing called traffic.

Carpentry

jpb1974 wrote: »

Common sense? (*Deja vu moment)

not really

FullblownRose

Carpentry wrote: »

I actually am, been driving few years and never had a single moment of trouble on the road.

But I can tell you one thing. People who call other drivers tailgaters usually leave acres of space between the cars and then tend to catch the light sometimes going through the junction on red light and that's dangerous without doubt, or by leaving so big spaces between cars cause thing called traffic.

That's like saying 'I touched an electrical appliance with wet hands once and didn't get electrocuted'

You have probably just been lucky. And possibly caused trouble without realising it.

Ive never seen 'acres' of space left- and wouldnt worry about people causing traffic, thats not an excuse to tailgate.

jpb1974

Carpentry must be a wind up merchant.

Carpentry

I am just pissed of with people that cannot drive or can barely and calling the others dangerous because they do not understand how it is to feel confident behind the wheel or just simply as a decent driving person.

Are you one of the people that put handbrake on every time they need to stop ?

Carpentry

Carpentry wrote: »

Does that mean that you just simply don't give a f... about what's going on the road around you ?

Feel sorry for you....

...and by the way, it should have been "most stupid thing"

I have no idea how you managed to get that out of my post.

You really think heavy braking won't save someones life?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9kxWXGshxg

I wouldn't feel sorry for me. I certainly don't.

What I called your post is perfectly acceptable and you know it. Or do you?

Carpentry

And you are calling this heavy breaking ? he was driving like 5 kph ....

Carpentry

Carpentry wrote: »

And you are calling this heavy breaking ? he was driving like 5 kph ....

Yup. What would you call it? As a result of his heavy braking he didn't slap into the idiotic, unexpected cyclist.

spongebob89

Slam the breaks, get your car fixed on their insurance an claim wiplash, make ****loads of money then laugh about it 6 months later

Ave Sodalis

Carpentry wrote: »

And how are you going to judge whats tailgating and what is just simple driving behind ?

Go have a look at the rules of the road, maybe? And then use your noggin.


As for pulling over, that just basically encourages the tailgaters the next time when they think "oh well driving up someones arse made them move the last time, I may keep doing it".

Carpentry

Snotaul Goodman wrote: »

Yup. What would you call it? As a result of his heavy braking he didn't slap into the idiotic, unexpected cyclist.

it's just impossible to break heavy if you barely roll

Carpentry

sup_dude wrote: »

Go have a look at the rules of the road, maybe? And then use your noggin.

That's quote from RSA

"Always leave enough room between you and the vehicle in front to allow you
to stop safely. In dry conditions, you should make sure that you are at least two
seconds behind the vehicle in front. In bad weather, make sure you are four
seconds behind."

2 seconds isn't that big gap as you imagine.

Ave Sodalis

Carpentry wrote: »

That's quote from RSA

"Always leave enough room between you and the vehicle in front to allow you
to stop safely. In dry conditions, you should make sure that you are at least two
seconds behind the vehicle in front. In bad weather, make sure you are four
seconds behind."

Yup, exactly! There's your answer

Carpentry

Carpentry wrote: »

it's just impossible to break heavy if you barely roll

But your man just did it in the video I posted. He was going faster than 5km/ph too by the way.

Carpentry

Snotaul Goodman wrote: »

But your man just did it in the video I posted. He was going faster than 5km/ph too by the way.

How could he be going faster if he just stopped because of the taxi driver in front of him, you just gave a bad example, not my fault....

fran17

Only a fool breaks the two second rule.Hence he was a fool as I doubt it was a woman.

Tokyo

Carpentry wrote: »

2 seconds isn't that big gap as you imagine.

A quick calculation for various common road speeds says that a 2 sec gap equates to:

10kph = 5.4m
50kph = 27.6m
80kph = 44.4m
100kph = 55.4m

To give you something to scale that against, I drive a Land Rover Defender 110, a pretty big 4WD, and that's 4.5m long. So, those lengths translate to in and around:

10kph = 1 4WD length
50kph = 6 4WD lengths
80kph = 10 4WD lengths
100kph = 12 4WD lengths

It looks like it's you who isn't so sure of what a 2 second gap looks like...

Nekarsulm

Back when cars were a lot more basic, a mate had a Wipac spot lamp mounted on the boot of his Mini, as a reversing light. Believe me, if you drove on his bumper, you would find yourself slamming on your brakes until your eyesight recovered!

Carpentry

Carpentry wrote: »

How could he be going faster if he just stopped because of the taxi driver in front of him, you just gave a bad example, not my fault....

No he didn't

The only time he stopped is when the cyclist appeared

Tzardine

If I am on a motorway I will usually wait until I am alongside a truck and then I will slow down to match it's speed. Usually about 80kmh I will keep this up until I am bored of going slow. . I love the wild gesticulation that I can see in my mirror.

I feel it's our duty to fnuck with thele tailgaters.

danrua01

I keep driving normally. I'm usually at the speed limit unless there's a good reason to be under.

It's annoying and especially more so when they're headlights are misaligned/too bright

Carpentry

mike_ie wrote: »

A quick calculation for various common road speeds says:

10kph = 5.4m
50kph = 27.6m
80kph = 44.4m
100kph = 55.4m

To give you something to scale that against, I drive a Land Rover Defender 110, a pretty big 4WD, and that's 4.5m long. So, those lengths translate to in and around:

10kph = 1 4WD length
50kph = 6 4WD lengths
80kph = 10 4WD lengths
100kph = 12 4WD lengths

It looks like it's you who isn't so sure of what a 2 second gap looks like...

2 seconds rule explanation, again from RSA

"A good way to see if you are four seconds behind the vehicle in front is to
choose a point such as a lamp post or road sign. When the vehicle in front of
you passes the post or sign, say the following rule twice – ‘only a fool breaks the
two second rule’. Check where your vehicle is in relation to the chosen point. If
you have moved past"

Elmer Blooker

iDave wrote: »

Don't know how to do deal with them myself but...now you might think this as dramatic...but they are the scum of the Earth.
90% of drive a combination of Audi or BMW.

I don't think you're being dramatic, the self-entitlement of these juveniles never ceases to amaze me.

Tokyo

Carpentry wrote: »

2 seconds rule explanation, again from RSA

"A good way to see if you are four seconds behind the vehicle in front is to
choose a point such as a lamp post or road sign. When the vehicle in front of
you passes the post or sign, say the following rule twice – ‘only a fool breaks the
two second rule’. Check where your vehicle is in relation to the chosen point. If
you have moved past"

You seem to have some notion that what you just said disqualifies what I've just proven...

Carpentry

Snotaul Goodman wrote: »

No he didn't

The only time he stopped is when the cyclist appeared

I think we are watching different videos...

Carpentry

mike_ie wrote: »

You seem to have some notion that what you just said disqualifies what I've just proven...

You just gave me some examples based on vehicle you are driving and are not really correct :eek:

the_syco

Snotaul Goodman wrote: »

Tapping the brake pedal without actually applying the brakes usually does the trick.

If they have a dash-cam, and crash into you shortly after you "brakecheck", I wonder could they have a case that you braked for no reason?

Personally, I take the foot off the gas, and see how slow can I go. They were up my ass at 60, still up my ass at 30. F**k im!

Tokyo

Carpentry wrote: »

You just gave me some examples based on vehicle you are driving and are not really correct :eek:

Um... I have some examples based on 'metres' and 'seconds' ... things like time and distance are as fixed of values as you could be dealing with. The vehicle I drive doesn't change that - it gives a sense of scale...

But please, feel free to prove me wrong on that. I await your answer with bated breath....

:rolleyes:

Carpentry

Carpentry wrote: »

I think we are watching different videos...

I'd hope so because if you think that the dashcam car stopped anywhere in the video before the cyclist appeared then I'd question whether you should be allowed on the road yourself.

Carpentry

Snotaul Goodman wrote: »

I'd hope so because if you think that the dashcam car stopped anywhere in the video before the cyclist appeared then I'd question whether you should be allowed on the road yourself.

Thank god you're not the one to judge. And if he was going faster than 5 kph than I am walking barefoot everywhere from tomorrow.

FullblownRose

the_syco wrote: »

If they have a dash-cam, and crash into you shortly after you "brakecheck", I wonder could they have a case that you braked for no reason?

Personally, I take the foot off the gas, and see how slow can I go. They were up my ass at 60, still up my ass at 30. F**k im!

Theoretically they could have to brake if something ran out ahead in the dark with poor visibility. Whether that something turned out to be a plastic bag blowing in the wind is irrelevant. A dashcam is not going to disprove or prove that something appeared to come out in front of the car ahead.
Braking for no reason in itself is not the problem, you dont drive too close thereby eliminating the danger of someone else braking suddenly by acting responsibly and pre emptively yourself. Someone could have a petit mal fit unknown to themself at the wheel, almost anything can happen to cause a change in the driver behaviour ahead.

the_syco

the_syco wrote: »

If they have a dash-cam, and crash into you shortly after you "brakecheck", I wonder could they have a case that you braked for no reason?

Personally, I take the foot off the gas, and see how slow can I go. They were up my ass at 60, still up my ass at 30. F**k im!

My brakes are never actually applied when I do it. The brake pedal switch in my car is ultra sensitive. You barely have to brush your foot off the pedal and the lights come on.

I'd imagine they'd only have a case if it was insurance fraud or the likes.

TheBrinch

I skimmed the entire thread and didnt see one mention about just speeding up. Simple.

danrua01

Carpentry wrote: »

Thank god you're not the one to judge. And if he was going faster than 5 kph than I am walking barefoot everywhere from tomorrow.

Seems a good idea to take you off the road anyway, but please stop posting replies that'll get nowhere. You're acting like the tailgates equivalent of a board poster now.