What is the Irish concensus on the USA?

helluvalife

Wanna hear your views. Ask me anything.

ErnieBert

What does "concensus" mean?

corner of hells

Is Canada nice ?

The Backwards Man

What is your consensus on the USA?

helluvalife

When you think of the USA, do you think of riots like Ferguson, black and white conflict? Mexican immigration? Ghettos?

helluvalife

corner of hells wrote: »

Is Canada nice ?

Never been.

corner of hells

helluvalife wrote: »

When you think of the USA, do you think of riots like Ferguson, black and white conflict? Mexican immigration? Ghettos?

No ,I think of biscuits.

recylingbin

I think you should call him Mr. Bolt.

LeinsterDub

Is this thread's title confusing in the US too?

Duff

'MURICA!

helluvalife

corner of hells wrote: »

No ,I think of biscuits.

You know what you call biscuits, we have a completely different thing. Cookies are biscuits, and biscuits are kinda like scones but without the sugar.

AnonoBoy

Why would we be doing a census on the USA?

The Backwards Man

helluvalife wrote: »

When you think of the USA, do you think of riots like Ferguson, black and white conflict? Mexican immigration? Ghettos?

On a cold and grey Chicago morn a poor little baby child was born

ElChe32

Hairy Japanese bastárds

Peregrine

helluvalife wrote: »

Cookies are biscuits, and biscuits are kinda like scones but without the sugar.

Wait, then what do you call cookies?

Proper cookies, not biscuits.

The Backwards Man

How'd you like your fried eggs done?

Eh. . .fried.

Faith+1

Great for cheap tobacco and clothes. Tipping is a pain in the ass though.

corner of hells

helluvalife wrote: »

You know what you call biscuits, we have a completely different thing. Cookies are biscuits, and biscuits are kinda like scones but without the sugar.

And a hood is something on my head not covering the engine of my car.

Peregrine

helluvalife wrote: »

When you think of the USA, do you think of riots like Ferguson, black and white conflict? Mexican immigration? Ghettos?

No, I think of this.

corner of hells

Nim wrote: »

Wait, then what do you call cookies?

Proper cookies, not biscuits.

They are a type of monster , ya remember the cookie monster , dontcha ?

PizzamanIRL

helluvalife wrote: »

Wanna hear your views. Ask me anything.

Go on back to reddit. Scoot!

The Backwards Man

corner of hells wrote: »

And a hood is something on my head not covering the engine of my car.

Not to put too fine a point on it
Is that the only bee in your bonnet?

helluvalife

helluvalife wrote: »

You know what you call biscuits, we have a completely different thing. Cookies are biscuits, and biscuits are kinda like scones but without the sugar.

Hmmm biscuits and gravy for breakfast

helluvalife

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

Go on back to reddit. Scoot!

Lol dude I'm not some basement dwelling neckbeard lol

barneystinson

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Why would we be doing a census on the USA?

Ah but we're NOT doing a census on them (that's the con)...

Don Kedick

Americans will either shoot you or eat you.

Dunny

Nothing tbh.

gene_slackman

best and worst of humanity lives there

helluvalife

Don Kedick wrote: »

Americans will either shoot you or eat you.

Obesity isn't as bad as how they make it out to be. In California its rare to see people like that. Most of the fatties are in the poverty states.

helluvalife

gene_slackman wrote: »

best and worst of humanity lives there

I guess its because we are a melting pot brah. The most diverse country on earth, you can bet there is gana be a few bad eggs in the mix.

helluvalife

helluvalife wrote: »

Obesity isn't as bad as how they make it out to be. In California its rare to see people like that. Most of the fatties are in the poverty states.

Houston has the highest rate of obesity I think

Karl Stein

'mrca

The Backwards Man

I quite like America, I've had some great conversations with Canadians there. Of the Yanks themselves, I'd say the Virginians, Kentuckians, and the Coloradoans are the best craic, even though a doll from Louisville nearly got me murdered one night.

The Domonator

Me and my brother are thinking of going over to Boston for Paddys Day (next year or the one after), is it any use?

RobYourBuilder

helluvalife wrote: »

The most diverse country on earth

No it's not. What they tell you in school over there and the truth, are two vastly different things.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_ranked_by_ethnic_and_cultural_diversity_level
http://www.citylab.com/politics/2013/10/americans-vastly-overestimate-how-diverse-country-really/7320/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/16/a-revealing-map-of-the-worlds-most-and-least-ethnically-diverse-countries/

The Backwards Man

The Domonator wrote: »

Me and my brother are thinking of going over to Boston for Paddys Day (next year or the one after), is it any use?

You'd be better off going to America if you wanna meet Americans, or Achill Island or Malin Head if you wanna meet Bostonians

helluvalife

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

No it's not. What they tell you in school over there and the truth, are two vastly different things.



I have only skimmed over those articles but do they even take into account the diversity of the white American? We are literally from every country in Europe, I can't think of a European ethnic group not represented.

darced

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RobYourBuilder

helluvalife wrote: »

I have only skimmed over those articles but do they even take into account the diversity of the white American? We are literally from every country in Europe, I can't think of a European ethnic group not represented.

Are you telling me that there is a cultural difference between an American with mixed central European ancestry and an American with Irish and Ulster Scots ancestry?

biko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joNzRzZhR2Y

From recent experience, I can say American girls are the easiest I've ever had the pleasure of......having?

Specifically from Ohio and Pennsylvania. Wish all women were like that.

It seems a very divided country, in terms of politics, race, outlook on the world etc. It's a country that has given us the nuclear bomb and The Godfather. It has given us Franklin Roosevelt and Sarah Palin.

As Colin Farrell put it, "America is a brilliant, f*cked up place".

Wompa1

Hardest working people I've ever come across.

conspiracycat

When I think of America I think

Advertising
Big business
Trying to sell you drugs you don't need
Consume, have more more more!
Pointless celebrity
Corruption

The Backwards Man

Their pints are smaller than our pints!
And likewise their gallons!

Fluid ounces are the same though.

paulosam

Only been to New York and it was cool, stayed in Harlem which was supposed to be rough but was actually grand.

Didn't see any gun massacres or morbidly obese people, and the folks on the subway were very helpful and polite when I inevitably got lost most days. Mad for ID in pubs though.

The Backwards Man

paulosam wrote: »

Only been to New York and it was cool, stayed in Harlem which was supposed to be rough but was actually grand.

Didn't see any gun massacres or morbidly obese people, and the folks on the subway were very helpful and polite when I inevitably got lost most days. Mad for ID in pubs though.

Yeah, I remember the first time I went to New York, I was full of trepidation and apprehension from watching such shows as Cagney and Lacey, The Equalizer, and films like Ghostbusters and Trading Places, but you know what? Probably about the friendliest city I've ever visited, and the bars are second to none for craic.

Shopping is shite though, don't know what the Tiger pups saw in it.

anncoates

Actually a fascinating country and in some ways, the crucible of modernity, bad and good.

The Backwards Man

anncoates wrote: »

Actually a fascinating country and in some ways, the crucible of modernity, bad and good.

Me and you should to a pub crawl up 3rd Avenue some day. I'm buying

lazybones32

I only speak for one Irishman but I want to go there...and not for a 2 week holiday. I'd like to take 6 months to see and experience the States. Well, maybe not Utah or Detroit. Depressing by all accounts.

Your politics is your own problem - as is ours - so no need to comment.
People are people...and that's about it.

I particularly look forward to seeing the old, decommissioned ICBM silos.

Littlekittylou

helluvalife wrote: »

Wanna hear your views. Ask me anything.

What part of it though?

GerB40

A lot of great things have come from the US. Bob Dylan, Johnny Cash, Some of the best actors and movies of all time. Thomas Edison, Abraham Lincoln, JFK, the list could go on and on.

But the United States of America is a country built on the genocide of the indigenous people and the slavery of African people. That and relatively speaking it's still a young country. That mix right there can't lead to good things, as recent history has shown us.

The health care system is by far the worst in the developed world. I mean, what kind of country would refuse permission to a sick or injured person just because they don't have the means to pay for their treatment? I'd be the first to criticise the HSE for their utter incompetence but the HSE pales in comparison to the American health system.

The left right divide in American politics is immense. Anything the Democrats say the Rebublicans immediately dismiss and vica versa. There are fantastic politicians (Bernie Sanders comes to mind) but as long as they're independent they will remain irrelevant. If they join a party they're not allowed independent thought. TOW THE PARTY LINE. A phrase which has destroyed way too many great ideas..

Guns. I can't say anything about the American obsession with guns that hasn't been said before. Over 100 school shootings since Sandy Hook? And the Republicans response was "the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun". They literally said that, look it up.

America armed the tailban during the Russian/Afghanistan conflict. You'd imagine a lesson would've been learned after 9/11 but no, during the spring rising they armed the rebels in Syria to help topple Bashar Al-Assad. Those rebels are now known as ISIS. Or ISIL or IS, it's hard too keep up..

Forward to the present day and there's young black men being killed weekly by white cops who invariably get a slap on the wrist and told not to do it in future.

Which brings me back to my first points. A country that only exists because of genocide and slavery will always have problems. History can't be changed, all you have to do is turn on the news to see it certainly hasn't been forgotten.

I was going to write a little piece about religion too but I have fairly extreme views on all religions everywhere and, as such, couldn't give an impartial view on it.

I hope it doesn't seem like I hate America because I don't. I'm pointing out what I see are some of the major flaws in the system.. If I offended, I'm not sorry. Facts are facts. But if I did get any facts wrong please let me know, I'd be more than happy to retract any falsehoods and for them, I will apologise.