People don't get out of the way!

thelad95

Ok so I've started cycling to college from my accommodation as the walk was taking too long. On my way to college, there are mostly cycle lanes but occasionally I have to cycle on a narrow footpath and this is where the problem is.

People simply don't move for you. This means I have to swerve around them dangerously sometimes nearly ending up back on the road. The worst is on cyclelanes on the footpath where pedestrians walk in the cycle lane and refuse to move. I think I may have to get a bell before this causes me an accident.

Does anyone else have this problem?

Lumen

thelad95 wrote: »

occasionally I have to cycle on a narrow footpath

No you don't.

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Never, ever cycle on the footpath. You get out of pedestrians way. Cycle on the road. No one has to get out of your way no matter where you are cycling. Adjust your attitude and you'll be much lese stressed on your commute.

Danjamin1

You should be cycling on the road, you should never be cycling on the footpath unless it's a shared footpath/cycle lane.

Raam

Is this not a piss-take? I thought it was a piss-take.

Danjamin1

Raam wrote: »

Is this not a piss-take? I thought it was a piss-take.

I did think that initially, thought I'd reply anyway. I hope it is.

obriendj

if is it not a piss-take, he does have a point about the footpath cycle path combo, (on Wickham way near dundrum for example) where some people cross into the cycle-lane with out looking. There should be a curb between the two lanes or something.

otherwise not a very good post.

The tax man

Raam wrote: »

Is this not a piss-take? I thought it was a piss-take.

It's Friday. YAY!!

Paco Rodriguez

I wouldn't move for you either. Pedestrians have more right to a footpath than you. Why do you think that they should move out of your way?

Triceratops Ballet

agree about the cycle- lane footpath combo issue, its a pain and a lot of the new cycle paths seem to be in this format,however you're not supposed to be on the path, so if you're going to cycle on it you have no right to complain, its a FOOTpath!

Tenzor07

thelad95 wrote: »

People simply don't move for you. This means I have to swerve around them dangerously sometimes nearly ending up back on the road. The worst is on cyclelanes on the footpath where pedestrians walk in the cycle lane and refuse to move. I think I may have to get a bell before this causes me an accident. Does anyone else have this problem?

Get a Leap card for the Bus or start walking to college is the best thing you can do to resolve this "issue"...

buffalo

Get a bell, it's illegal not to have one (except when it's not).

obriendj wrote: »

There should be a curb between the two lanes or something.

There generally is if you use the road.

thelad95

I'd like to emphasize a few things. I mostly have this issue on the footpath/cycling lane combos, that wasn't clear in the OP. This is my first time cycling in a busy town so I don't feel confident zig-zagging between cars like some people do hence I feel the need to divert onto footpaths at junction and use a pedestrian crossing instead.

I accept pedestrians have more of a 'right' to use footpaths but I still feel they should have the decency to move instead of something potentially dangerous happening.

I understand most cyclers posting here are very experienced but I think most of the attitudes on this thread towards a relative noob like myself have been appalling.

endacl

Get a unicycle, OP. You won't fit into any clear category. Confuse them.

el tel

In the way that many cyclists think drivers should bend over and take a dry humping, it's only fair that cyclists should drop their drawers for pedestrians.

Beasty

thelad95 wrote: »

I accept pedestrians have more of a 'right' to use footpaths but I still feel they should have the decency to move instead of something potentially dangerous happening.

You do realise it is illegal to cycle on a footpath don't you? The reaction of posters here is probably down to the fact that many of them may well be pretty incredulous that you started a thread admitting to doing this unless, as one poster suggested, you were taking the p!ss. If not taking the p!ss I would suggest you do the correct thing and dismount when needing to use a footpath

mrbike

You're getting a bad reaction because cycling on the footpath is illegal and gives cyclists a bad name. The fact that you expect pedestrians to get out of your way is ridiculous.

Cycle on the road. It's not too bad once you get used to it.

veetwin

thelad95 wrote: »

I accept pedestrians have more of a 'right' to use footpaths but I still feel they should have the decency to move instead of something potentially dangerous happening.

Without being too harsh here you're completely wrong. Pedestrians have every right to use the footpath. You as a cyclist have none.

If you lack the confidence to cycle on the public road then the only options are either;
(a) walk the sections where you have to use the path or
(b) build up your confidence - it's not that difficult and you don't really need to "zigzag" through traffic.

There is nobody here with a negative attitude to you or any noob but cycling on the path is a serious no-no and probably more dangerous than cycling on the road.

Jawgap

thelad95 wrote: »

Ok so I've started cycling to college from my accommodation as the walk was taking too long. On my way to college, there are mostly cycle lanes but occasionally I have to cycle on a narrow footpath and this is where the problem is.

People simply don't move for you. This means I have to swerve around them dangerously sometimes nearly ending up back on the road. The worst is on cyclelanes on the footpath where pedestrians walk in the cycle lane and refuse to move. I think I may have to get a bell before this causes me an accident.

Does anyone else have this problem?

No, because I don't go to college.

Just cycle on the road - it's not completely pedestrian free, but there are fewer of them.

Do you have a similar problem on the trip home, which would be much more serious?

Triceratops Ballet

thelad95 wrote: »

I understand most cyclers posting here are very experienced but I think most of the attitudes on this thread towards a relative noob like myself have been appalling.

Being a "noob" is no excuse for breaking the law and blatant disregard for the safety of pedestrians. We were all new to cycling at some stage, but we all put on our big girl/boy pants and cycled on the road, were we're supposed to. I have been cycling for years and have never been in a situation where I "had" to weave in and out of traffic. I still don't feel comfortable doing it, so I don't do it!

hardCopy

Get off the bike and walk if you can't manage a particularly hairy section.

Never cycle on the path please.

Alek

I accept pedestrians have more of a 'right' to use footpaths but I still feel they should have the decency to move instead of something potentially dangerous happening.

You do not have any right to cycle on the footpath, they have all the rights to walk there and not pay attention to you. End of story. Get off your bike and walk if you find yourself there, or cycle slowly without risking anyone.

don't feel confident zig-zagging between cars like some people do

Then don't do it, wait with the cars like some other people do.

cython

thelad95 wrote: »

I'd like to emphasize a few things. I mostly have this issue on the footpath/cycling lane combos, that wasn't clear in the OP. This is my first time cycling in a busy town so I don't feel confident zig-zagging between cars like some people do hence I feel the need to divert onto footpaths at junction and use a pedestrian crossing instead.

I accept pedestrians have more of a 'right' to use footpaths but I still feel they should have the decency to move instead of something potentially dangerous happening.

I understand most cyclers posting here are very experienced but I think most of the attitudes on this thread towards a relative noob like myself have been appalling.

I think cycling on the footpath and expecting the pedestrians who are entitled to walk there to get out of your way so you can break the law is appalling. See, we're all entitled to our opinion, but no grown adult is entitled to cycle on the footpath.

If you need to navigate a junction that you are not confident enough to do on the road, then dismount and become a pedestrian - if you can't beat them, join them!

Cu Baire

"occasionally I have to cycle on a narrow footpath and this is where the problem is."

The clue is in the name "FOOTpath" or the American version: SideWALK.
Get it now?

youtheman

thelad95 wrote: »

I accept pedestrians have more of a 'right' to use footpaths but I still feel they should have the decency to move instead of something potentially dangerous happening.

You still don't get it. Pedestrians have THE right to use footpaths. Hint : it's in the word 'foot'. What you are doing is illegal. Can you image someone who complained that they drove a car down the runway in Dublin Airport and was stunned to find that the aircraft didn't swerve out of the way.

Jawgap

I suspect the authenticity of this thread but given it's Friday I'm happy to play along.....

thelad95 wrote: »

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I accept pedestrians have more of a 'right' to use footpaths but I still feel they should have the decency to move instead of something potentially dangerous happening.

I understand most cyclers posting here are very experienced but I think most of the attitudes on this thread towards a relative noob like myself have been appalling.

Pedestrians don't have 'more' of a right - they have the right to use a footpath; a cyclist doesn't.

I accept that someone lacking in confidence or experience may decide to use a footpath for reasons of their own safety, but once you do that the onus is on you to do so safely, even if it means hopping off and walking on the busier sections.

You always have an alternative that peds don't and that's to use the roadway as the law of the land allows you to.

Raam

Jesus, it's not a piss-take!

obriendj

buffalo wrote: »

There generally is if you use the road.

If your read my post i was referring to the cycle lane - foot path combo.

Google Street view of mentioned example

There is no curb between the two so pedestrians and cyclists a like can cross over without noticing. They are not very safe.

t5pwr

I bought a small bell recently, tends to move people faster instead of giving them a shout like I used to before. Most people seem to react very well to a bell. If you see them about to cross the cycle lane or on a shared lane, give it a ring and I guarantee you they will look up. It has saved me a few times. It's just a way of letting people know you are there. Bikes are pretty silent.

And yeah, if you can't cycle on the road walk on the footpath

Hi Ho

t5pwr wrote: »

I bought a small bell recently, tends to move people faster instead of giving them a shout like I used to before. Most people seem to react very well to a bell. If you see them about to cross the cycle lane or on a shared lane, give it a ring and I guarantee you they will look up. It has saved me a few times. It's just a way of letting people know you are there. Bikes are pretty silent.

And yeah, if you can't cycle on the road walk on the footpath

The canal towpaths in London can be quite crowded with cyclists, pedestrians, runners etc and they can be pretty marrow It's normal to give a tinkle of a bell to ask people to step out of your way and it's a generally acceptable etiquette. You do get the occasional aggressive 'get out of my way' ring but not much. So, judicious use of the old-fashioned bell should help on the combined paths.

chrysagon

mrbike wrote: »

You're getting a bad reaction because cycling on the footpath is illegal and gives cyclists a bad name. The fact that you expect pedestrians to get out of your way is ridiculous.

Cycle on the road. It's not too bad once you get used to it.

is cycling on the footpath actually illegal?

my neighbour pulled out of his drive and a cyclist on the footpath hit the car... now a legal case is in process,!

ciaranlong

chrysagon wrote: »

is cycling on the footpath actually illegal?

my neighbour pulled out of his drive and a cyclist on the footpath hit the car... now a legal case is in process,!

Yes, cycling on the footpath is illegal. I remember being told this numerous times when I was in secondary school. Also that is extremely dangerous. I appreciate that the roads can be daunting for cyclists, but if they absolutely have to cycle on footpaths then they should do so very slowly and should have zero expectations that people will get out of their way. The cyclists should go around the pedestrians; not the other way around.

chrysagon

my neighbour pulled out from his drive, and the cyclist slammed into side of car, damage to wing of car, and cyclist injured.. now cyclist has taking legal action, so i take it the cyclist solicitor doesnt think its illegal..

but thanks for the info

TOEJOE

I second ciaranlong watch out for pedestrians and the elderly.

TonyStark

ciaranlong wrote: »

Yes, cycling on the footpath is illegal. I remember being told this numerous times when I was in secondary school. Also that is extremely dangerous. I appreciate that the roads can be daunting for cyclists, but if they absolutely have to cycle on footpaths then they should do so very slowly and should have zero expectations that people will get out of their way. The cyclists should go around the pedestrians; not the other way around.

If they have to use the footpaths they should dismount and push the bike. When it is safe to do so they should rejoin the road or relevant cycle lane to use the road.

check_six

chrysagon wrote: »

my neighbour pulled out from his drive, and the cyclist slammed into side of car, damage to wing of car, and cyclist injured.. now cyclist has taking legal action, so i take it the cyclist solicitor doesnt think its illegal..

but thanks for the info

The cyclist was in the wrong place, but the car in this instance must give way to *everything* when they are pulling out of their drive. Both vehicles were 'on the path' technically speaking, also.

chrysagon

chrysagon wrote: »

my neighbour pulled out from his drive, and the cyclist slammed into side of car, damage to wing of car, and cyclist injured.. now cyclist has taking legal action, so i take it the cyclist solicitor doesnt think its illegal..

but thanks for the info

People take legal action for everything under the sun and solicitors are more than happy to take their money to do so.

Whether they have a leg to stand on is another question.

endacl

ronoc wrote: »

Whether they have a leg to stand on is another question.

I suppose they could always sue for the loss of a leg to stand on?

Max Rockatansky

Saw a Garda cycling on the footpath in Donnybrook on Wednesday.

Rackstar

Yeah sure you own the footpath, the cycle lane, and the road.

Everyone should clear out of your way. If not shout abuse and create threads online. You should probably consider getting a go pro cam and cycle around getting yourself in tricky situations on the bike.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Max Rockatansky wrote: »

Saw a Garda cycling on the footpath in Donnybrook on Wednesday.

So?

moc moc a moc

endacl wrote: »

Get a unicycle, OP

Appropriate, seeing as OP is a bleedin' clown

Timberrrrrrrr

Walked out of a shop on westmorland street today only for a cyclist to crash straight into me, luckily i saw him at the very last second and dropped my left shoulder enabling him to take the brunt of the crash and end up in a heap on the pavement.

He got up and started to berate me for not watching where i was going and tried to tell me that he had the right of way and asked me for my details as he wanted to report me to the guards

thelad95

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Walked out of a shop on westmorland street today only for a cyclist to crash straight into me, luckily i saw him at the very last second and dropped my left shoulder enabling him to take the brunt of the crash and end up in a heap on the pavement.

He got up and started to berate me for not watching where i was going and tried to tell me that he had the right of way and asked me for my details as he wanted to report me to the guards

As he fell, did you shout Timberrrrrr?

CramCycle

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Walked out of a shop on westmorland street today only for a cyclist to crash straight into me, luckily i saw him at the very last second and dropped my left shoulder enabling him to take the brunt of the crash and end up in a heap on the pavement.

He got up and started to berate me for not watching where i was going and tried to tell me that he had the right of way and asked me for my details as he wanted to report me to the guards

I would have given them and offered to come down the station with him.

Timberrrrrrrr

thelad95 wrote: »

As he fell, did you shout Timberrrrrr?

Nope i shouted GOBSH/TE!!!!!

JayRoc

Raam wrote: »

Jesus, it's not a piss-take!

I am still clinging to the hope that it is. I honestly cannot accept that anyone could post that and be serious.

JayRoc

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

and dropped my left shoulder enabling him to take the brunt of the crash and end up in a heap on the pavement

Nice.

wotdef

I don't think the real issue here is whether cycling on the footpath is illegal or not;). The real issue is that someone deemed this person intelligent enough to be out on their own and attending a college as well.
I once told a guard that he shouldn't be cycling in a park that I was working in as it was against the bye-laws. He didn't stop, strangely enough.

Captain Havoc

wotdef wrote: »

I don't think the real issue here is whether cycling on the footpath is illegal or not;). The real issue is that someone deemed this person intelligent enough to be out on their own and attending a college as well.
I once told a guard that he shouldn't be cycling in a park that I was working in as it was against the bye-laws. He didn't stop, strangely enough.

There's no need for the personal insults.

mountsky

Yup,I've experienced people practically driving me off the road,but it's all good,I would just give a salute when they get stuck at the lights haw haw haw!!