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Bird ID

  • 26-11-2014 8:35pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭


    Hi all

    I'm trying to identify a bird that visits the garden regularly (I have some kibbled peanuts/sunflower seeds in a dish) but unfortunately don't have a photo to share.
    It's about the same size as a robin/chaffinch and the same colour as them but without the redbreast or the white bits on the wings.

    Any ideas?

    Thanks a mil.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Possibly a female or immature chaffinch. Is it among a flock of other birds?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭nekuchi


    Female chaffinches still have the white bit on their wing afaik? Not sure about immature ones though...
    It's usually on it's own.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 608 ✭✭✭Bonedigger


    A Dunnock perhaps?

    dunnock.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭keps


    what is this duck ?


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    keps wrote: »
    what is this duck ?



    Male Wigeon


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭keps


    Thanks OpenYourEyes....

    Just wondering then if this is a female wigeon in the background( a bit out of focus I know)


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    keps wrote: »
    Thanks OpenYourEyes....

    Just wondering then if this is a female wigeon in the background( a bit out of focus I know)

    Thats a Male Teal. Male ducks tend to be more colourful than the females - most female ducks here are a more dull version of the males, but similar in size and shape.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭nekuchi


    Bonedigger wrote: »
    A Dunnock perhaps?

    dunnock.jpg

    I think it may be a female blackcap, I've just seen a male one now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,224 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    That is a Dunnock


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭nekuchi


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    That is a Dunnock

    Sorry, I mean the bird I see in the garden is a blackcap, not the image. :-/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭keps


    Just wondering is what breed these are? Thanks!


    Rogerstown this morning-

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    keps wrote: »
    Just wondering is what breed these are? Thanks!


    Rogerstown this morning-


    Three male Teal!

    And thats their species, not their breed. In general, with wild animals we categorise them by species or subspecies. Dogs and Cats are talked about as 'breeds' because they are all variations on the same species.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭keps


    Just spotted this little fella foraging on the ground in the bushes?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭whyulittle


    A little Wren.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭keps


    whyulittle wrote: »
    A little Wren.


    Thanks:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭keps


    This bird was in the garden this morning - I dont think it's a regular visitor.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    Male Reed Bunting - not a regular garden visitor! (depending on your proximity to a reedbed of course...)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭keps


    Thank you!

    Yes I had gone onto the RSPB Bird identifying site and a bunting was the closest I got - but didn't think it would be a backgarden bird.

    Could they normally be along the Liffey or Canal- I live about a mile from both?


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    Photos not great as taken though window glass


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    Ah yeah - they associate with reedbed habitats along rivers and lakes, but thats not to say they can't move around a bit - particularly if this current cold spell is restricting feeding opportunities and food availability.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭stevensi


    It's actually a nicely marked male. Usually the black head is more faded in the winter. A nice garden bird indeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Zoo4m8


    Not unusual to see them here with mixed finch and yellow hammer flocks round the hedgerows , the nearest reed bed is around three miles away... Though haven't seen any this winter and come to think of it the yellowhammers are few and far between as well...:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭keps


    Zoo4m8 wrote: »
    Not unusual to see them here with mixed finch and yellow hammer flocks round the hedgerows , the nearest reed bed is around three miles away... Though haven't seen any this winter and come to think of it the yellowhammers are few and far between as well...:(


    Where is 'here'?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 608 ✭✭✭Bonedigger


    Keps,this is the female of the species:

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    I took this down by the canal in Milltown,Co.Kildare yesterday. Interestingly, she was feeding alongside a Dunnock and there wasn't a male or other Reed Buntings to be seen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Zoo4m8


    keps wrote: »
    Where is 'here'?

    North Wicklow, near Greystones..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Zoo4m8 wrote: »
    Not unusual to see them here with mixed finch and yellow hammer flocks round the hedgerows , the nearest reed bed is around three miles away... Though haven't seen any this winter and come to think of it the yellowhammers are few and far between as well...:(

    Saw the biggest Yellowhammer flock in my life last week on the edge of Blessington in a field of outwintered cattle which had a lot of thistles etc. They were hanging out with Goldfinches and a couple of Reed Buntings. Certainly weren't local birds as there is no tillage in this area. Probably winter migrants - possibly from the continent


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 608 ✭✭✭Bonedigger


    I was driving between the towns of Kilcullen and Athy in south Kildare this morning,and my eye was immediately drawn to a rather large,unusually coloured bird in a field. Needless to say, curiosity got the better of me and I pulled over to have a closer look. It was a good distance away(a couple of hundred metres) and didn't have my binoculars, so am still not sure what I was looking at!! The bird had light-brown coloured plumage(very reminiscent of the colour on the back of a male kestrel) on its back and tail, but the most striking thing was its creamy-white coloured breast plumage. It spent quite a significant amount of time on the ground, and when I tried to get closer it flew a short distance and landed back on the ground. It was definitely a raptor. The wings were long and broad, but I couldn't tell you what the tail shape was like. Given its size and the context in which it was seen (ie.walking about a field), I'm guessing it was either a Buzzard or Red Kite - but that creamy-white coloured breast plumage has me perplexed! How varied can a Buzzard's plumage colour be - does it lighten in colour during the winter months or could it have been a juvenile?
    I'd dearly love to think it was a Red Kite and that's not inconceivable because
    the area in which it was seen is a 'stone's throw' from the Wicklow mountains.I'm not sure though that a Red Kite would have bright-coloured neck and breast plumage,or would it?Any ideas guys?!!:confused:
    By the way,has anyone seen Red Kites in this area before?
    Thanks.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    Bonedigger wrote: »
    I was driving between the towns of Kilcullen and Athy in south Kildare this morning,and my eye was immediately drawn to a rather large,unusually coloured bird in a field. Needless to say, curiosity got the better of me and I pulled over to have a closer look. It was a good distance away(a couple of hundred metres) and didn't have my binoculars, so am still not sure what I was looking at!! The bird had light-brown coloured plumage(very reminiscent of the colour on the back of a male kestrel) on its back and tail, but the most striking thing was its creamy-white coloured breast plumage. It spent quite a significant amount of time on the ground, and when I tried to get closer it flew a short distance and landed back on the ground. It was definitely a raptor. The wings were long and broad, but I couldn't tell you what the tail shape was like. Given its size and the context in which it was seen (ie.walking about a field), I'm guessing it was either a Buzzard or Red Kite - but that creamy-white coloured breast plumage has me perplexed! How varied can a Buzzard's plumage colour be - does it lighten in colour during the winter months or could it have been a juvenile?
    I'd dearly love to think it was a Red Kite and that's not inconceivable because
    the area in which it was seen is a 'stone's throw' from the Wicklow mountains.I'm not sure though that a Red Kite would have bright-coloured neck and breast plumage,or would it?Any ideas guys?!!:confused:
    By the way,has anyone seen Red Kites in this area before?
    Thanks.


    I think you're on the ball with a Buzzard - the individual variation in plumage borders on the ridiculous, From very dark to very white.

    Their French name is something along the lines of 'Buse variable', reflecting the considerable variation in plumage from bird to bird.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 608 ✭✭✭Bonedigger


    I think you're on the ball with a Buzzard - the individual variation in plumage borders on the ridiculous, From very dark to very white.

    Their French name is something along the lines of 'Buse variable', reflecting the considerable variation in plumage from bird to bird.

    Thanks OYE!
    It was obviously foraging for earthworms,leatherjackets,etc., in the field.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Bonedigger wrote: »
    I was driving between the towns of Kilcullen and Athy in south Kildare this morning,and my eye was immediately drawn to a rather large,unusually coloured bird in a field. Needless to say, curiosity got the better of me and I pulled over to have a closer look. It was a good distance away(a couple of hundred metres) and didn't have my binoculars, so am still not sure what I was looking at!! The bird had light-brown coloured plumage(very reminiscent of the colour on the back of a male kestrel) on its back and tail, but the most striking thing was its creamy-white coloured breast plumage. It spent quite a significant amount of time on the ground, and when I tried to get closer it flew a short distance and landed back on the ground. It was definitely a raptor. The wings were long and broad, but I couldn't tell you what the tail shape was like. Given its size and the context in which it was seen (ie.walking about a field), I'm guessing it was either a Buzzard or Red Kite - but that creamy-white coloured breast plumage has me perplexed! How varied can a Buzzard's plumage colour be - does it lighten in colour during the winter months or could it have been a juvenile?
    I'd dearly love to think it was a Red Kite and that's not inconceivable because
    the area in which it was seen is a 'stone's throw' from the Wicklow mountains.I'm not sure though that a Red Kite would have bright-coloured neck and breast plumage,or would it?Any ideas guys?!!:confused:
    By the way,has anyone seen Red Kites in this area before?
    Thanks.

    The first Red Kite I saw was sitting on a post at roughly the distance you describe. It looked like a giant Kestrel and very unlike any buzzard I've seen


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 608 ✭✭✭Bonedigger


    Birdnuts wrote: »
    The first Red Kite I saw was sitting on a post at roughly the distance you describe. It looked like a giant Kestrel and very unlike any buzzard I've seen

    I've seen dozens of Buzzards in the past, but the colour of this particular bird just looked different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭keps


    This photo was taken from the far bank of the Liffey and this is a large 'blow up' of a section of the pic.

    Is the bird on the top left a greenfinch? The nearest I can get on Bird Identifier



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    It's a Siskin - a bit more of a woodland specialist than the Greenfinch!

    http://www.birdwatchireland.ie/IrelandsBirds/Sparrowsfinchesbuntings/Siskin/tabid/451/Default.aspx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭keps


    Thanks

    I had keyed 'size' and 'woodland' into the id finder and both greenfinch and siskin along with about 20 others came up!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Woodville56


    Just wondering about this gull phonescoped on local iced over lake in recent days - the smudgy head would indicate Lesser Black Backed, which I thought would be scarce enough inland in winter. Although dark gray in appearance didn't seem to have the bulky build of a Great Black Backed ? It didn't fly while I was watching so didn't get a look at wing pattern. Any thoughts ?


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    Just wondering about this gull phonescoped on local iced over lake in recent days - the smudgy head would indicate Lesser Black Backed, which I thought would be scarce enough inland in winter. Although dark gray in appearance didn't seem to have the bulky build of a Great Black Backed ? It didn't fly while I was watching so didn't get a look at wing pattern. Any thoughts ?

    Looks good for LBBG for me? Not too unusual to get inland in winter tbh!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭stevensi


    looks good for a lesser. The mantle on a Greater is a lot blacker. YOu couldn't rule out a yellow legged gull on that picture as the quality isn't great but as they are a lot rarer I would say it's a LBB Gull


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Woodville56


    stevensi wrote: »
    looks good for a lesser. The mantle on a Greater is a lot blacker. YOu couldn't rule out a yellow legged gull on that picture as the quality isn't great but as they are a lot rarer I would say it's a LBB Gull

    Thanks for ID - was thinking of yellow legged gull as I watched it but, as in the well distant phonescoped pic, the legs didn't really appear to be that yellow in colour compared to the bill, which made me wonder, as LBB's legs are yellowish also ? Range was just too far for a more detailed look. Will settle on LBB though , seems the most obvious !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭keps


    Just curious about the id of the bird on the right?
    It has a distinctive 'strip' at eye level/

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    My eyes aren't what they used to be but it looks like a female house sparrow to me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭keps


    thanks - guessed that ok


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Capercaille


    keps wrote: »
    Just curious about the id of the bird on the right?
    It has a distinctive 'strip' at eye level/
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭keps


    Thanks guys- I had thought that with 4 male Reed Buntings in the garden a female might drop insmile.png

    So I printed off a photo of a female Reed Bunting - and have it on the kitchen table- but looking through the lens to where the birds congregate - it's really difficult to know( for me that is).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭keps


    Now, here are 2 reed buntings in the garden this morning.

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    I am aware that the male's plummage changes and winter plummage is different from summer.... but are these 2 males?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    Both have (mostly) black heads, and a white 'collar' going all around the neck - they're both males.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭keps


    This bird seemed a bit bigger and more independent than the regular male sparrow?

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    keps wrote: »
    This bird seemed a bit bigger and more independent than the regular male sparrow?


    'Bigger' here just means he has puffed out his feathers, usually for warmth. I've had a few house sparrows doing it today too, though it isn't particularly cold.

    It can be a sign of illness I think, but much more often it's just to retain heat!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭Zebrano


    I seen these tiny birds the other day in the botanic gardens they could fit inside an Inclosed fist could not get close enough to photograph jus wondering if anyone knew what they were


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 234 ✭✭Fruit1985


    Treecreepers or Goldcrests most likely. I've seen tons of them up there.

    Failing that - a kingfisher.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    If its a small flock then Goldcrest. Tree creepers don't flock and kingfishers will be at water and usually solo at this time of year. Kingfishers are also much larger. Goldcrest are 3 inches long, treecreepers are 5 and kingfishers are 6.5 inches. A wren, for comparison purposes, is 4 inches.


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