WWE TLC 2014 Thread - 14th/December/2014 *Spoilers*

Frank O. Pinion

Tables, Ladders, & Chairs Match
Dean Ambrose vs. Bray Wyatt

Chairs Match
Ryback vs. Kane

Just under three weeks away.

Roman Reigns

is being featured in local television advertisements for the TLC network event in December.

Wrestling Observer Newsletter wrote:

There was some speculation that John Cena may get his WWE World Heavyweight Title shot against Brock Lesnar at December's TLC pay-per-view as Lesnar will be returning to TV next month. It hasn't been confirmed that Cena vs. Lesnar won't take place at TLC but Cena is also being considered for a Tables, Ladders & Chairs three-way with Seth Rollins and Randy Orton. Either way, it looks like Rollins will be in the Tables, Ladders & Chairs match. If the three-way doesn't happen, the other option being considered is Rollins vs. Orton.

JP Liz V1

Ziggler Vs. Rollins in a ladder match for the MITB contract would be good imo


Is it too soon this ppv for HHH Vs. Sting, probably better for RR or WM

Lord TSC

If they're going down the route of having Sting fight, it needs more than three weeks build with one already gone....

Loughc

Lord TSC wrote: »

If they're going down the route of having Sting fight, it needs more than three weeks build with one already gone....

I'd say they're gonna drag out the sting thing for ALOT longer than 3 weeks. I reckon we won't see him until the rumble with a match at WM.

Ageyev

Smackdown

Chair match Kane vs. Ryback

Lithium93_

Based on their scuffle this past week on Raw, i'd imagine Erick Rowan will face off against Big Show at TLC.

Frank O. Pinion

What is WWE doing with Dolph Ziggler exactly? He seems to be getting a rejuvenated push after his 2013 World Title win/concussion/fall from grace, with a run with the IC Title from August to November (apart from the one day Miz held it), and then the big "sole survivor" win at Survivor Series.

So he should be moving on to bigger and better things, right? But it looks like it'll be Ziggle/Harper at this show for the IC Title in a ladder match. A match that can't help both men. Okay, they might have a good match (I like both guys), but booking wise, either Harper retains, and Ziggler suffers a loss after his big win at Survivor Series and kills his momentum, or Ziggler wins the IC Title for a 4th time and stays in the midcard for the near future and Harper loses the title less than 4 weeks after winning it.

JP Liz V1

So no Lesnar and world title match again

Loughc

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

So no Lesnar and world title match again

Replace Battle with world champion and you get my point :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONYJGGPBkgs

Rock Lesnar

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

So no Lesnar and world title match again

No but we got Cena in another main event, all the kiddies and ladies say yaaaaaay

Stereomaniac

I actually hope Dolph Ziggler wins the Intercontinental title again. But was it announced last night?

Frank O. Pinion

Stereomaniac wrote: »

I actually hope Dolph Ziggler wins the Intercontinental title again.

Why? Harper is a breath of fresh air as IC champion, instead of the usual revolving door of the likes of The Miz, Wade Barrett, Kofi Kingston, all three of those have held the belt four times each.

Stereomaniac

Eh, I like Dolph Ziggler?

Loughc

Stereomaniac wrote: »

I actually hope Dolph Ziggler wins the Intercontinental title again. But was it announced last night?

No but it was

Announced on this week's Smackdown, Ladder Match for the IC Title, Harper Vs. Ziggler

Frank O. Pinion

Stereomaniac wrote: »

Eh, I like Dolph Ziggler?

Yes, so do I. Which is why I want him to move up the card, not win the midcard title again.

rovert

The show has been renamed

connemara man

They might as well give a letter to every possible weapon that could be used and put it in the title

citytillidie

Its on Sky Sports 1 :eek:

Lithium93_

What the hell is a stairs match & how will it work, also surprised that TLC will be on Sky Sports 1, isn't it usually a Sky Box Office PPV.

rovert

It was on Sky Sports last year.

the groutch

Lithium93_ wrote: »

What the hell is a stairs match & how will it work

to win you have to use the stairs to reach up and grab the brass ring

Stereomaniac

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

Yes, so do I. Which is why I want him to move up the card, not win the midcard title again.

I get far more enjoyment out of wrestling when I try to focus on the positives in it.

Frank O. Pinion

Stereomaniac wrote: »

I get far more enjoyment out of wrestling when I try to focus on the positives in it.

Fair enough, but I don't see a lot positives in Dolph not moving up the card.

CastorTroy

Guessing stairs will be the weapon in the Big Show/Rown match with them using them against each other the past week

CSF

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

Fair enough, but I don't see a lot positives in Dolph not moving up the card.

I'm a big Dolph fan. The big problem is a lack of good heels though. That the likes of Big Show, Kane and Bray Wyatt are currently feuding with some of the most current and hot faces is indicative of the difficulty faces are facing in really getting over with great feuds.

At the moment, we've Seth Rollins and Brock Lesnar who are really really uppercard heels. Lesnar doesn't do matches against up and comers to put them over. He does money matches. There's only so much of Rollins to go around. Rusev hasn't been defeated yet so he isn't in a position to be putting up and comers over while staying strong.

Bringing in Sting as a face was a very bad idea for me IMO even if the initial execution was excellent. When Mania comes around he's taking away another of the high profile heels from the card, when you could have had an up and coming Ziggler against HHH and perhaps Cena vs Sting, leaving Rollins for Ambrose.

Orton is another excellent heel so they need to bring him back still heel rather than adding him to that massively oversized face pecking order.

Things may start to change once Rusev becomes established in the upper card and if Harper is still relevant in 6 months. But at the moment, the opportunities for an up and coming face aren't good. We need strong heels to establish themselves and we need heelturns that work.

How much room is there for Cena, Bryan, Reigns, Ambrose, Ziggler, Ryback, Orton and Sting to all be top faces come Wrestlemania?

citytillidie

rovert wrote: »

It was on Sky Sports last year.

There were to be no more PPVs on normal Sky sports after night of champions

Lithium93_

TLC Card:

Tables, Ladders, & Chairs Match
Dean Ambrose vs Bray Wyatt

Ladder Match for the Intercontinental Championship
Luke Harper vs Dolph Ziggler

Chairs Match
Korporate KAnE vs RyBack

Steel Stairs Match
Erick Rowan vs The Big Show

WWE Tag Team Championship Match
Miz & Damien MizDow vs The Usos

United States Championship Match
Rusev vs Jack Swagger

Tables Match
John Cena vs Seth Rollins

Lithium93_

UPDATED TLC CARD

Tables match: John Cena vs. Seth Rollins. (If Cena loses, he is no longer #1 contender to the WWE World Hvt. Title held by Brock Lesnar.)

TLC match: Dean Ambrose vs. Bray Wyatt.

Ladder match: Luke Harper vs. Dolph Ziggler for the Intercontinental Title.

Chairs match: Ryback vs. Kane.

Tag Title match: The Miz & Damien Sandow vs. The Usos.

Stairs match: Big Show vs. Erick Rowan.

U.S. Title match: Rusev vs. Jack Swagger.

Divas Title match: Nikki Bella vs. A.J. Lee.

Pre-show match: New Day (combination of Kofi Kingston & Big E. & Xavier Woods) vs. Goldust & "Stardust" Cody Rhodes.

Tugboats

Cant really say im looking forward to this. Its been a really poor build up IMO

CSF

Tugboats wrote: »

Cant really say im looking forward to this. Its been a really poor build up IMO

Very little you can do in 3 weeks, so pointless having these PPVs.

Lithium93_

If TLCS was an Indy show

Ridley

the groutch wrote: »

to win you have to use the stairs to reach up and grab the brass ring

Staring contest. Blink and you'll miss Big Show's heel to face to heel turn.

andyman

All signs point to Wyatt winning against Ambrose and it's pissing me off.

Stereomaniac

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

Fair enough, but I don't see a lot positives in Dolph not moving up the card.

Personally I'd prefer to see him win the championship and defend it like he was before.

Frank O. Pinion

Stereomaniac wrote: »

Personally I'd prefer to see him win the championship and defend it like he was before.

You would prefer for him to win the IC title again instead of moving up the card, and eventually become a proper main eventer?

Agent Coulson

I forgot this was on tonight.

NXT R evolution had my attention more than this as the must watch WWE this week.

Stereomaniac

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

You would prefer for him to win the IC title again instead of moving up the card, and eventually become a proper main eventer?

Yeah. I would. At the moment I want to see Brock Lesnar hold the championship and hopefully beat up John Cena again. I'd rather see Sheamus return to the top really.

Lord TSC

Feeling really uninterested tonight.

There isn't much of worth happening. And I can see there being a massive screwy finish tonight. Wonder if Brock would show up to screw Cena...

Whosthis

Just read an interesting report/spoiler that the ring area was draped off for rehearsals. Standard practice or expect a big surprise?

rovert

Lithium93_

Whosthis wrote: »

Just read an interesting report/spoiler that the ring area was draped off for rehearsals. Standard practice or expect a big surprise?

I'm going with my gut and say something was being practiced, didn't they drape off the ring before Wrestlemania before Rock faced off against Cena, i remember reading that. Could be wrong though.

JP Liz V1

http://wrestlingnews.co/top-name-backstage-at-the-wwe-tlc-pay-per-view-possible-spoiler/


Daniel Bryan backstage

Lord TSC

Rumble up next, maybe he can announce he plans to return at it?

Lithium93_

Lord TSC wrote: »

Rumble up next, maybe he can announce he plans to return at it?

Or maybe Bryan announces he healed faster than expected and he'll be in action at the post TLC Raw tomorrow?

Not gonna happen, but i can dream though.

Tugboats

Struggling to stay awake for this I think its one for tomorrow.

Garseys

Metsfan (Roverts good buddy :pac: ) saying that the main roster talent have the fire lit under them after the NXT show.

Machismo Fan

The hour before a PPV always moves painfully slowly.

Angron

Did Goldust just say "f*ck" there? I wasn't sure, but it seemed like he did and they didn't cut it.

rovert

Garseys wrote: »

Metsfan (Roverts good buddy :pac: ) saying that the main roster talent have the fire lit under them after the NXT show.

Only after Meltzer reported the exact same thing.

Andersonisgod

Early complaint but I do hate this comparison between cars in a demolition derby and wrestlers, it almost says these guys body's don't feel pain, I dunno it just seems like the kind of thing that needlessly desensitizes you to the pain these guys go through.

Agent Coulson

The vigilante Sting!

So that is the way they are going to go with Sting.