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Will the dublin hurlers win an AL in the next 10 years?

  • 24-11-2014 10:53pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 830 ✭✭✭


    I think they are on the way with all the minors and u21s coming through
    Up the Dubs :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    Highly unlikely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 830 ✭✭✭jimpump


    Rightwing wrote: »
    Highly unlikely.

    If clare, no hopers a few years ago can do it then so can dublin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭homeofhurling


    no they haven't won underage all irelands, they missed the boat the year clare won it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    jimpump wrote: »
    If clare, no hopers a few years ago can do it then so can dublin.

    In case you didn't hear, Dublin people aren't natural hurlers so it doesn't matter whether they're good or what they've won underage, they can't win.


  • Registered Users Posts: 830 ✭✭✭jimpump


    In case you didn't hear, Dublin people aren't natural hurlers so it doesn't matter whether they're good or what they've won underage, they can't win.

    So because we werent born in the sticks we cant hit a sliotar?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    jimpump wrote: »
    So because we werent born in the sticks we cant hit a sliotar?

    They are a poor man's version of KK, lots of fitness and heart and plenty of pulling & dragging & blocking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 830 ✭✭✭jimpump


    Rightwing wrote: »
    They are a poor man's version of KK, lots of fitness and heart and plenty of pulling & dragging & blocking.

    At least we can play football unlike the kk boys. They cant even put out a football team..thats discraceful


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Rightwing wrote: »
    They are a poor man's version of KK, lots of fitness and heart and plenty of pulling & dragging & blocking.

    What a ridiculous comment.
    You never cease to amaze me with your enlightening words of wisdom.

    Dublin will be a serious hurling team and have hurling astute game management and tactical shrewdness on the side line and innovative coaching the current limerick team lack on management ,Galway,Waterford currently lack in management so all their talents will be wasted while the proven ger cunningham, the proven ed coughlan the young upcoming tommy dunne will get every inch out of dublin

    Dublin will win an all ireland before Galway or limerick or Waterford as all three will waste two more years with poor management.

    Dublin will be a top four team in two years up there with kilkenny cork,and clare
    Dublin hurling has no fears going forward.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    jimpump wrote: »
    At least we can play football unlike the kk boys. They cant even put out a football team..thats discraceful


    I'm not a big football fan, but Dublin seem to me to be the best football team, surprised didn't win it this year.

    Dublin hurlers needed to get someone from Tipp, to improve their skill, instead they got someone a club team would have reservations taking on. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Rightwing wrote: »
    I'm not a big football fan, but Dublin seem to me to be the best football team, surprised didn't win it this year.

    Dublin hurlers needed to get someone from Tipp, to improve their skill, instead they got someone a club team would have reservations taking on. :rolleyes:


    They have tommy dunne up their you do realise he's from Tipperary.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    What a ridiculous comment.
    You never cease to amaze me with your enlightening words of wisdom.

    Dublin will be a serious hurling team and have hurling astute game management and tactical shrewdness on the side line and innovative coaching the current limerick team lack on management ,Galway,Waterford currently lack in management so all their talents will be wasted while the proven ger cunningham, the proven ed coughlan the young upcoming tommy dunne will get every inch out of dublin

    Dublin will win an all ireland before Galway or limerick or Waterford as all three will waste two more years with poor management.

    Dublin will be a top four team in two years up there with kilkenny cork,and clare
    Dublin hurling has no fears going forward.

    I told you Kilmallock would beat Cratloe, I'm now telling you Dublin are going to fall away. Relegation from 1A, and that Wexford will pass them out.

    I also said Tipp would do a demolition job on Cork in last year's semi.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Rightwing wrote: »
    I'm not a big football fan, but Dublin seem to me to be the best football team, surprised didn't win it this year.

    Dublin hurlers needed to get someone from Tipp, to improve their skill, instead they got someone a club team would have reservations taking on. :rolleyes:
    And on club point old ger cunningham if you knew as much as you let on you do, you would realise Kilmallock had huge interest in ger cunningham last year amongst many other clubs.
    So your myth regards cunnigham is rubbish with respect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    And on club point old ger cunningham if you knew as much as you let on you do, you would realise Kilmallock had huge interest in ger cunningham last year amongst many other clubs.
    So your myth regards cunnigham is rubbish with respect.

    Correct, but they had reservations. The sparrow proved to be a wise choice. ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 500 ✭✭✭Davys Fits


    10 years is a long time to predict ahead. I dont think they will win one in the next 3 or 4 years at least. They will trouble lots of teams but need a few talented (wristy) forwards to bridge the gap. Winning allirelands in Hurling is not as easy as KK may make it look like. I certainly hope they keep competing at the top level and are regulars in the AI semis and if they make a final or two who knows. Even though Waterford never made the breakthrough in the last decade it has to be said that there competitiveness at the top level has done wonders for the game there and that's just as important as winning AI's in the long term.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Rightwing wrote: »
    I told you Kilmallock would beat Cratloe, I'm now telling you Dublin are going to fall away. Relegation from 1A, and that Wexford will pass them out.

    I also said Tipp would do a demolition job on Cork in last year's semi.
    Even a stopped clock is right at times

    You went for tipp as anyone but cork.


    Back to dublin, you right off ger cunningham as a poor coach when you clearly have no idea what your talking bout.

    You then made a wild assertion there was no tipp man with Dublin
    Tommy dunne is from Tipperary.
    Again I had to give you the correct information.
    You also insult the intelligent of Ballygunner in Waterford as they had ger cunningham as coach yet you say no club wanted him.
    Actually look up the facts before you speak nonense.
    By the way Ballygunner won a county title with ger in charge.
    Ger also has had huge input ucc sigerson cup wins and also cork senior hurling winning all irelands
    He won u15 with cork this year.
    Speaking such nonense when the facts are clear exposed your post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    Davys Fits wrote: »
    10 years is a long time to predict ahead. I dont think they will win one in the next 3 or 4 years at least. They will trouble lots of teams but need a few talented (wristy) forwards to bridge the gap. Winning allirelands in Hurling is not as easy as KK may make it look like. I certainly hope they keep competing at the top level and are regulars in the AI semis and if they make a final or two who knows. Even though Waterford never made the breakthrough in the last decade it has to be said that there competitiveness at the top level has done wonders for the game there and that's just as important as winning AI's in the long term.

    That's their problem in 1 word. Too many grafters.

    Waterford were good enough and should have won an AI. Probably down to headless coaches like Justin McCarthy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    Even a stopped clock is right at times

    You went for tipp as anyone but cork.


    Back to dublin, you right off ger cunningham as a poor coach when you clearly have no idea what your talking bout.

    You then made a wild assertion there was no tipp man with Dublin
    Tommy dunne is from Tipperary.
    Again I had to give you the correct information.
    You also insult the intelligent of Ballygunner in Waterford as they had ger cunningham as coach yet you say no club wanted him.
    Actually look up the facts before you speak nonense.
    By the way Ballygunner won a county title with ger in charge.
    Ger also has had huge input ucc sigerson cup wins and also cork senior hurling winning all irelands
    He won u15 with cork this year.
    Speaking such nonense when the facts are clear exposed your post.

    If Dublin win an AI under Cunningham I'll give you credit. Until then I won't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Rightwing wrote: »
    Correct, but they had reservations. The sparrow proved to be a wise choice. ;)

    Yes you see again I had tell you the facts.
    Now if you knew why did you say nonense before hand no club wanted him


    You didn't know he was asked
    And check again they wanted him he refused Kilmallock not the other way around as he wanted to stick with ucc and cork development squad and holding out as he knew dublin was looming.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    jimpump wrote: »
    At least we can play football unlike the kk boys. They cant even put out a football team..thats discraceful

    Ok I was actually on your side but this kind of ****e talk is too juvenile for my liking. Enjoy football, I'm sure it's ****ing fantastic stuff altogether. You're welcome to it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭homeofhurling


    Rightwing wrote: »
    If Dublin win an AI under Cunningham I'll give you credit. Until then I won't.

    the same could be said about o'shea over tipp


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭Borders no.2


    I think this particular Dublin team has probably reached the end of its life cycle and will need some fresh blood to re-invigorate it. There are 5 or 6 players who Dublin hurling owes a lot to but who have just come to the end of the road. I think everyone knows who they are really. Dublin have had one good year one bad year since Anthony Daly took over so next year should be a good one!

    With the momentum they had in 2013, losing the semi-final was a major setback. The previous semi-final they had performed well while never really threatening Tipp in 2011, 2012 they didn't perform at all against KK and were unlucky to then draw Clare away but 2013 was their big chance really.

    I'll be honest I don't really know much about what's coming up in Dublin but the u21s this year looked fairly mediocre and with Costello and Kilkenny having chosen football that's the main men in that team gone. The full back and captain of the minors in 2012 looked a good prospect but can't think of his name off hand.

    The minor team hammered KK out the gate early in the year before petering out as the season progressed so hard to know where their true level is.

    Its very hard to know 10 years down the track but I'd be very surprised if Dublin win it in the next 4 or 5 years. New teams have come and gone the last few years and there isn't a huge gap anymore but there still is a gap.

    Next year Galway in their first game and it is a huge one for both sides, the winner of that could build a bit of momentum and have a decent year. Its hard to think the loser of that will make any kind of inroads on the championship.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    the same could be said about o'shea over tipp

    Not really. I'd regard Tipp as having the best hurlers in the country. They did get the most all stars for instance. Dublin clearly don't. Cunningham has a big job on his hands, you'd need an expert for that job.
    O Shea should be sacked. Had his chance and couldn't do it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭homeofhurling


    Rightwing wrote: »
    I'm not a big football fan, but Dublin seem to me to be the best football team, surprised didn't win it this year.

    Dublin hurlers needed to get someone from Tipp, to improve their skill, instead they got someone a club team would have reservations taking on. :rolleyes:

    wasn't Richard stakelum with Dublin the last few years his tipp two, you should check up facts before you write rubbish you know nothing about.


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭homeofhurling


    Rightwing wrote: »
    Not really. I'd regard Tipp as having the best hurlers in the country. They did get the most all stars for instance. Dublin clearly don't. Cunningham has a big job on his hands, you'd need an expert for that job.
    O Shea should be sacked. Had his chance and couldn't do it.

    kilkenny won 4 titles this year tipp nothing the all stars are a joke have been this 20 year, how could tipp have the best hurlers in the country its 5 years since they won anything:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    wasn't Richard stakelum with Dublin the last few years his tipp two, you should check up facts before you write rubbish you know nothing about.

    I'm not talking about water boys or the likes, the likes of Sheedy. top job. ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭J DEERE


    Hard to call 10 years ahead but at the moment they wouldn't be in the top 5 teams in the country. Kk, Tipp, Limerick, Clare and Cork are ahead of them and I would be inclined to think that Galway are ahead of them too. They really missed their chance in 2013. The championship was blown wide open that year and it was anyone's for the taking. Tipp and Kk looked rejuvenated this year and were rightly the two teams in the final.

    As for KK football, ye can argue all night about KKs lack of a football team but the interest just isn't there. It's a small county with a small population, the counties that can successfully carry teams in both codes are large counties with big populations. Normally half the county devotes itself to hurling and the other half to football. Considering the population of Dublin, the resources, facilities and endless money being thrown at the development of football and hurling in the county, what they have to show for it is very disappointing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    kilkenny won 4 titles this year tipp nothing the all stars are a joke have been this 20 year, how could tipp have the best hurlers in the country its 5 years since they won anything:rolleyes:

    We need to give Cody respect. Give Tipp Cody and KK O Shea and we'd have a mismatch.


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭homeofhurling


    you would have to give tipp jj delaney, richie hogan, richie power then they might win,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    J DEERE wrote: »
    Hard to call 10 years ahead but at the moment they wouldn't be in the top 5 teams in the country. Kk, Tipp, Limerick, Clare and Cork are ahead of them and I would be inclined to think that Galway are ahead of them too. They really missed their chance in 2013. The championship was blown wide open that year and it was anyone's for the taking. Tipp and Kk looked rejuvenated this year and were rightly the two teams in the final.

    As for KK football, ye can argue all night about KKs lack of a football team but the interest just isn't there. It's a small county with a small population, the counties that can successfully carry teams in both codes are large counties with big populations. Normally half the county devotes itself to hurling and the other half to football. Considering the population of Dublin, the resources, facilities and endless money being thrown at the development of football and hurling in the county, what they have to show for it is very disappointing

    I'd go Tipp, KK, Clare, Limk, Cork, Galway. But Galway are a bit of a loose cannon, they could beat any of them or lose to Offaly or Laois.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭homeofhurling


    J DEERE wrote: »
    Hard to call 10 years ahead but at the moment they wouldn't be in the top 5 teams in the country. Kk, Tipp, Limerick, Clare and Cork are ahead of them and I would be inclined to think that Galway are ahead of them too. They really missed their chance in 2013. The championship was blown wide open that year and it was anyone's for the taking. Tipp and Kk looked rejuvenated this year and were rightly the two teams in the final.

    As for KK football, ye can argue all night about KKs lack of a football team but the interest just isn't there. It's a small county with a small population, the counties that can successfully carry teams in both codes are large counties with big populations. Normally half the county devotes itself to hurling and the other half to football. Considering the population of Dublin, the resources, facilities and endless money being thrown at the development of football and hurling in the county, what they have to show for it is very disappointing

    offaly is a small county didn't stop them beating kilkenny in hurling and kerry in football all irelands.


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