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From minutes to miles

  • 24-11-2014 01:03AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭


    I'm biting the bullet and setting up my own training log. I'm following the guidance of the graduate thread and with the introduction of different types of training I'd like to keep a track of it all.

    Background

    Me - female, 29. Started running regularly in 2011/2012 purely for personal reasons after a bereavement with no structure or worry about goals or times. After a while it had become part of my routine and I really enjoyed it. Did the FMM in 2012 and loved it - started following a proper plan then and built up over the summer to my first half marathon in September. Kept it up for the next couple of years and followed the 2014 novice thread for the marathon this year.

    By the standards of most I'm definitely on the slower end of the scale. I've good discipline for following a plan, building up distance etc but never had any proper structure to try and work on my times. Would try to improve my time from each race but on a very informal basis, so much of the different training seemed quite daunting. I've learned a good bit over the last few months from following the novice thread, reading logs and different books etc so I'm hoping to change that.


    5m - 47.54 (Terenure May 2014)
    10k - 57.26 (Fingal 10k July 2013)
    10m - 1.38.11 (Frank Duffy, August 2013)
    Half marathon - 2.13.14 (Dublin race series, September 2014)
    Marathon - 5.11.01 (DCM 2014)

    What next?

    Short term I'm doing the Jingle Bells 5k to keep the legs ticking over and then the Raheny 5m. In the long term I'm looking at the half marathon in September as a target race. Obviously a long way away but hopefully if the year goes well that will show a good/decent improvement! Will set more specific time goals/target races as the graduate training progresses.

    Ok, here it goes........... :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭laura_ac3


    Sat Nov 15th

    6 miles in 1.05. Average pace 10.49

    Mon Nov 17th

    4 miles inc 60 seconds @ 5k pace x 7 with 2 min recoveries. 45 mins total.

    Average paces for the 5k segments were 8.52, 8.26, 8.22, 8.40, 8.53, 10.36 :confused: 8.35. Not sure what happened that second last one..... I've never raced a 5k before so just went out at a faster pace that I could hold well for the minute. Warm up and cool down either side of the 5k segments and recoveries.

    Wed Nov 19th

    Astro football

    Thurs Nov 20th

    4.1 miles inc 6 hill sprints for 8 seconds with ample recovery in between. 45 mins total.

    Saturday Nov 22nd

    90 minute LSR, 8.5 miles total. Really enjoyed this one, although probably a bit faster than it should have been - average pace 10.36.

    Sunday Nov 23rd

    4.4 miles in 45 mins. Included a HR rate test. 20 mins warm up, 90 seconds flat out, 60 seconds slow jog, 2 mins flat out, 60 seconds slow, 3 mins flat out, followed by cool down home. Max heart rate was 190, average was 162.

    Finding my pacing difficult over the last couple of weeks - not training for anything in particular so haven't been watch watching, just running according to how I'm feeling. Will see how the heart rate stuff goes. Good to be getting back into a routine - onto week two of the graduate plan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Welcome to the logs laura :D
    great to see you really stuck in to the training now. I'll be following closely :)
    nice 5k session!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭laura_ac3


    Ososlo wrote: »
    Welcome to the logs laura :D
    great to see you really stuck in to the training now. I'll be following closely :)
    nice 5k session!

    Thanks Ososlo. Excited to get back into things. Think the times were a big too fast for that one, I wasn't sure what pace to do them at exactly so just kind of did it by feel and only looked at the times after. I'm sure there'll be plenty more chances to get it right, there was actually a bit of chat about the paces on the graduate thread this morning so I'll take a proper look at that again later.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    laura_ac3 wrote: »
    Thanks Ososlo. Excited to get back into things. Think the times were a big too fast for that one, I wasn't sure what pace to do them at exactly so just kind of did it by feel and only looked at the times after. I'm sure there'll be plenty more chances to get it right, there was actually a bit of chat about the paces on the graduate thread this morning so I'll take a proper look at that again later.

    I'm also looking at a half marathon next year as my main long term target. What one are you thinking of? Race Series? Looking at options myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭Calvin Johnson


    Ososlo wrote: »
    I'm also looking at a half marathon next year as my main long term target. What one are you thinking of? Race Series? Looking at options myself.

    No marathons next year?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    No marathons next year?

    No not for me CJ. Looking forward to giving it another shot in 2016 when I've a good base behind me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭Calvin Johnson


    That's such a long time away though!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    That's such a long time away though!

    Yeah but there's so much fun stuff to do in the meantime from 800 meters to half marathons!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭barryoneill50


    Ososlo wrote: »
    No not for me CJ. Looking forward to giving it another shot in 2016 when I've a good base behind me.

    Sounds familiar.....;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭barryoneill50


    Good luck with the training Laura, good start....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭laura_ac3


    Ososlo wrote: »
    I'm also looking at a half marathon next year as my main long term target. What one are you thinking of? Race Series? Looking at options myself.

    Hadn't decided yet. I usually do the race series half so that's the one that jumps to mind but might consider other options for a change, or if the dates don't suit etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭laura_ac3


    A chaotic few days but in a good way...haven't been out that much in the last week. Myself and the OH collected the keys to our very own, newly purchased house yesterday afternoon :D - so with that stuff going on, getting up to see the place again, packing and a wedding thrown into the mix it's been a busy week with all routine thrown out the window!! :)

    Tuesday - squash.

    Wednesday - football.

    Thursday - 45 mins easy: 4.04 miles, average heart rate 158.

    Was late home after meeting a friend on my way home from work. Got in later than planned and my motivation for going out at 10pm was tested. Knowing that I had to take any available opportunities for a run helped get me back out the door. First run trying to go by the heart rate stuff on the graduate thread. Felt like I was going easy but my average heart rate is still a bit over the range coming out on the calculations I got. Bit of a disappointment, that my already slow pace may need to be slowed down a bit more. First time going out like this and it's a learning curve so will see how this continues.

    Friday - 4.1 miles with 5 x 2mins @ 5k effort w/3 mins recovery. Added a mile w/u and mile c/d which rounded it all off for 45 mins total.

    Enjoyed this, it was tough towards the end but I liked the variety and it flew by. Still not sure exactly how to approach the 5k segments but I'm doing the Jingle Bells 5k next Saturday. So by the time I do a similar session again I should hopefully have a better idea of where I'm at.

    Average pace for the splits: 9.09, 9.26, 9.14, 9.30 & 9.34.

    A couple of niggles which I think are lurking from DCM need to be sorted. Have an appointment booked for a physical therapy session next week so hopefully that will help.

    Will get out for my longer run of the week tomorrow....if I can find the runners among the boxes of junk!!! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭laura_ac3


    45 mins easy - 4.06 miles total, HR average 154bpm.

    Didn't get out for the longer run in the end but managed one of the middle distance ones from the plan. Lovely cool & calm evening for it.

    Does a day of packing and moving stuff count as some sort of cross training/strength/weights work??? :o I never realised you could fit so much in a one bed apartment!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    How's the training going laura? You still doing jingle bells?
    All the best if so!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭laura_ac3


    Ososlo wrote: »
    How's the training going laura? You still doing jingle bells?
    All the best if so!

    It's a bit hit and miss at the moment with other commitments, packing and moving etc. Ticking over though. Unfortunately can't do jingle bells. Was all set but I'm going to head down the country tonight, a friend wasn't well and ended up in hospital - all ok and on the mend but I'm heading down to help out with a few bits. Pity to miss it but I'll head to st Anne's for a park run soon hopefully instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭laura_ac3


    So, the last week was still a bit hit and miss as I already mentioned - no chance to do the different sessions or longer runs but ticking over with the easy medium runs mostly.

    Tuesday - Squash.

    Wednesday - Astro football

    Thursday - 45 mins easy, 4.09 miles, average HR 161bpm.

    AM: Runmute. Tried my new bag for the first time, was a recommendation I saw on the gear subforum. Loved it, I normally don't like running with a bag but this didn't bounce or anything so very happy with it.

    PM: Physical therapy session. Nothing serious, just a couple of post DCM niggles that never really settled down. A tight calf on one leg and a tight IT band on the other which is probably the cause of the hip niggle. Did some work on those so will keep an eye on them.

    Saturday - 45 mins easy, 3.95 miles, average HR 147bpm.

    Had to miss Jingle Bells myself but it was great reading all the reports from there and the Waterford half coming in. Made it out for my own run late when I got home from Cork. Enjoyed it, felt very controlled and comfortable and stayed within the HR range comfortably enough for the first time.

    Monday - 60 mins easy, 5.34 miles, average HR 152bpm.

    Cold, cold, cold. Close to home and a van pulls up alongside suddenly and a man starts to jump out. Instead of thinking rationally that someone is just getting dropped home - my imagination runs away with me and is convinced for a second that I was about to be bundled into the van and kidnapped. I think I've been watching too much Homeland. Glasnevin isn't known for its drive by kidnappings :rolleyes:

    Enjoyed the squash for the last couple of weeks, good to get back into it after a couple of months away from it but that'll be it until the new year anyway. With the packing and move just about done I should be back in a routine again soon. Might stick with the easy runs for the rest of the week and then pick up the graduate plan where I left off next week. I'll be a week or two behind but I don't think it's an issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Do you play much squash? Do you find it impacts adversely on your running?

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Hi Laura,

    Your heart rate seems a bit high for Thursday's easy run at 161bpm. My HRMax is 182bpm and 150bpm would be a steady state run for me at the moment. I would guess you should be trying to keep below 150bpm on those sort of runs if you can. Otherwise you might find yourself working a little too hard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭laura_ac3


    yaboya1 wrote: »
    Hi Laura,

    Your heart rate seems a bit high for Thursday's easy run at 161bpm. My HRMax is 182bpm and 150bpm would be a steady state run for me at the moment. I would guess you should be trying to keep below 150bpm on those sort of runs if you can. Otherwise you might find yourself working a little too hard.

    Hi yaboya,

    Thanks for the feedback. I did think that alright. Haven't uploaded to Garmin yet but I think the same thing happened with my run to work this morning. Numbers were about the same. Not sure if it's a mixture of being conscious of the time and making sure I'm not late, speeding up to make pedestrian lights (I've been going through the city centre so lots of junctions) and not being as focused on my running - these runs have felt more frenzied. Will be coming from a different route from next week, much quieter run through clontarf seafront and no city centre. Might leave a few minutes earlier so I don't have to rush and make a better effort to watch the effort.

    The heart rate stuff is interesting. Feels a bit depressing as to how slow my easy pace actually is but I'm intrigued to see how it all goes. One small part of me feels like binning it so I'm not faced with the reality of it :) but I'm hoping that it will start showing progress! (Obligatory smiley added for the avoidance of internet doubt - only joking about this, I'm not seriously considering bailing on the HR training so soon!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭laura_ac3


    Do you play much squash? Do you find it impacts adversely on your running?

    TbL

    It's a bit sporadic. I might play two weeks in a row and then not again for a month. Depends on when suits myself and my friend. I don't feel like it has much impact on my running but that's not to say it doesn't! I've never come away with any obvious negative impacts (specific injury for example) and I find that it's my upper body would feel it the day or two after if anything. Around the back and stomach muscles. Nothing major, just enough to know I'd been working them.

    It's always midweek so a couple of days away from any longer runs and I could skip if I was tapering for a race. I really enjoy it. Feels good to do something different to my normal pace of exercise, and it's good for a catch up as well :) I would be interested though if anyone else had any more insight into the potential impact on running. Do you play at all yourself?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    laura_ac3 wrote: »
    Hi yaboya,

    Thanks for the feedback. I did think that alright. Haven't uploaded to Garmin yet but I think the same thing happened with my run to work this morning. Numbers were about the same. Not sure if it's a mixture of being conscious of the time and making sure I'm not late, speeding up to make pedestrian lights (I've been going through the city centre so lots of junctions) and not being as focused on my running - these runs have felt more frenzied. Will be coming from a different route from next week, much quieter run through clontarf seafront and no city centre. Might leave a few minutes earlier so I don't have to rush and make a better effort to watch the effort.

    The heart rate stuff is interesting. Feels a bit depressing as to how slow my easy pace actually is but I'm intrigued to see how it all goes. One small part of me feels like binning it so I'm not faced with the reality of it :) but I'm hoping that it will start showing progress! (Obligatory smiley added for the avoidance of internet doubt - only joking about this, I'm not seriously considering bailing on the HR training so soon!)

    I felt a little bit similar back in March/April. It's difficult to slow yourself down to stick to the lower heart rates at the beginning, but I definitely feel it benefits you in the long run. Your easy pace will get faster as your fitness improves though, so stick with it ;).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    yaboya1 wrote: »
    I felt a little bit similar back in March/April. It's difficult to slow yourself down to stick to the lower heart rates at the beginning, but I definitely feel it benefits you in the long run. Your easy pace will get faster as your fitness improves though, so stick with it ;).

    Yep, I used to play it a lot, I gave it up as I felt it was causing me a few niggles. It's an unbelievable workout though and I might go back and play once a week in 2015

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭laura_ac3


    yaboya1 wrote: »
    I felt a little bit similar back in March/April. It's difficult to slow yourself down to stick to the lower heart rates at the beginning, but I definitely feel it benefits you in the long run. Your easy pace will get faster as your fitness improves though, so stick with it ;).

    Will do definitely. As I read recently - train slower, race faster! That's the plan anyway...the execution of it needs practice :pac:
    Yep, I used to play it a lot, I gave it up as I felt it was causing me a few niggles. It's an unbelievable workout though and I might go back and play once a week in 2015

    TbL

    Yeah it's great, I really enjoy it. Nice to mix up the routine with a couple of games every few weeks. Good luck if you start back into it, maybe even playing a couple of games a month instead of every week might keep the niggles from creeping in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    Good luck with the log and training and congratulations on the new home! (But try keep away from the kidnappers ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭laura_ac3


    Dubgal72 wrote: »
    Good luck with the log and training and congratulations on the new home! (But try keep away from the kidnappers ;-)

    Thanks dubgal. Ah I'll do my best - or else I'll just learn to consider things more rationally :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    laura_ac3 wrote: »
    Thanks dubgal. Ah I'll do my best - or else I'll just learn to consider things more rationally :)

    Always good to be on the alert! Best of luck with the move and with the log, fair play to you.

    Let me know when you are venturing to St Anne's Parkrun, might see you there... I gather from your 'runmute' (which I thought until very recently was running without speaking) that you are moving out that direction from the mean streets of Glasnevin ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭laura_ac3


    annapr wrote: »
    Always good to be on the alert! Best of luck with the move and with the log, fair play to you.

    Let me know when you are venturing to St Anne's Parkrun, might see you there... I gather from your 'runmute' (which I thought until very recently was running without speaking) that you are moving out that direction from the mean streets of Glasnevin ;)

    Actually going to give that a whirl this Saturday if you'll be around at all?

    The house is in artane so st Anne's and the seafront will become more regular spots. But a bit of work is needed so we're back in clontarf with my dad for the next little while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    laura_ac3 wrote: »
    Actually going to give that a whirl this Saturday if you'll be around at all?

    The house is in artane so st Anne's and the seafront will become more regular spots. But a bit of work is needed so we're back in clontarf with my dad for the next little while.

    Not sure yet if I'll make it on sat, will let you know. Good luck with the house, exciting for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    laura_ac3 wrote: »
    Actually going to give that a whirl this Saturday if you'll be around at all?

    The house is in artane so st Anne's and the seafront will become more regular spots. But a bit of work is needed so we're back in clontarf with my dad for the next little while.

    Best of luck with the Parkrun Saturday Laura!
    Have you done that one before?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭laura_ac3


    Ososlo wrote: »
    Best of luck with the Parkrun Saturday Laura!
    Have you done that one before?


    Won't make it this week. Have to be somewhere later on Saturday morning that I can't be late for, and I think it would be a bit too much of a squeeze timewise. I haven't actually done any of them yet. So I'll do it another time when I can enjoy it more and won't be rushing off. Really looking forward to heading along some stage soon.


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