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TV3 Toy Show, inappropriatally sexual for a kids show?

  • 23-11-2014 10:10am
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭


    I had a look for a thread on this, but I couldn't find one. I'm sure there's one somewhere though.


    So anyway, apart from the fact that it was rubbish, does anyone else think that what the gay was fella saying about his action man toy was way too overtly sexual for a kids show? He said that action man was his favourite in such an "OOoohh Matron" kind of way, then he said he used to undress him, and then CROSS dress him! Even if it was true, why would you say that to anyone?


    If you're gay, you're gay, whatever, I don't care. But I don't want my kids to know about things of a sexual nature for a few years to come yet. If that was a straight man saying his favourite doll was his sisters Barbie, and that he used to undress her for pervy reasons, there would have been uproar.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    Didn't see the show but since when was cross dressing sexual or pervy?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭newmug


    sup_dude wrote: »
    Didn't see the show but since when was cross dressing sexual or pervy?



    ???????


    Since the day it was invented


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    newmug wrote: »
    ???????


    Since the day it was invented

    Cross dressing is dressing in clothes designed for members of the other sex. It doesn't mean it has any sexual connections. Again, I didn't see the clip but I'm assuming he didn't specify that there was anything sexual connected to it. In which case, is this just a case of being outraged for the sake of being outraged?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 776 ✭✭✭seventeen sheep


    Didn't watch it (who watches those things?!), but I don't see anything wrong with it?

    You seem to think that he said Action Man was his favourite in a sexual or pervy way, maybe that's just your own interpretation. Nothing wrong with the statement, maybe if you had a link to the show, it would help?

    And, erm, we all undressed our dolls (the male and the female ones) ... that's kind of the point of them having removable clothes, and different outfits, etc? And if I'd had an Action Man or a Ken doll, I'm pretty sure I'd have gotten great craic out of dressing them up in my Barbie's tutu. Is that weird? (I'm straight and female, by the way.) It's just what kids do!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭degsie


    Here is your lookup word for today. Homophobia.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Dont think young kids understand or care about cross dressing action men


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭stimpson


    newmug wrote: »
    I had a look for a thread on this, but I couldn't find one. I'm sure there's one somewhere though.


    So anyway, apart from the fact that it was rubbish, does anyone else think that what the gay was fella saying about his action man toy was way too overtly sexual for a kids show? He said that action man was his favourite in such an "OOoohh Matron" kind of way, then he said he used to undress him, and then CROSS dress him! Even if it was true, why would you say that to anyone?


    If you're gay, you're gay, whatever, I don't care. But I don't want my kids to know about things of a sexual nature for a few years to come yet. If that was a straight man saying his favourite doll was his sisters Barbie, and that he used to undress her for pervy reasons, there would have been uproar.

    You are obviously projecting. I think you have unresolved issues from your childhood.





    Tell me about your mother.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    newmug wrote: »
    ???????


    Since the day it was invented
    What sexual gratification would a gay man get by put a skirt on an Action Man?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    You're children aren't homophobic, why are you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    What sexual gratification would a gay man get by put a skirt on an Action Man?

    And since it says "used to", I'm guess it was when he was a child.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Oops69


    Homophobe , I suppose you'd prefer to teach your children homophobia then,COP ON !


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭newmug


    sup_dude wrote: »
    Cross dressing is dressing in clothes designed for members of the other sex. It doesn't mean it has any sexual connections. Again, I didn't see the clip but I'm assuming he didn't specify that there was anything sexual connected to it. In which case, is this just a case of being outraged for the sake of being outraged?



    I'll give your intelligence the benefit of the doubt here, seeing as you continuously state that you didn't see the show. It was a GAY man, telling the story of how his favourite CHILDHOOD toy was Action Man. Grand. But then he went on to say how he used to undress him (why would you do that, if not for some sort of twisted sexual thrill), and also cross dress him, into female clothes. This guy was layering it on thick, it was obvious that he had a sexual motive for doing these things. It was all so skin-crawlingly obvious that he loved saying this.


    And as for "Cross dressing is dressing in clothes designed for members of the other sex. It doesn't mean it has any sexual connections.", come off it, will ya? Of course it has a sexual motive. Why don't people go around dressing up as walrus's then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,331 ✭✭✭deise08


    I saw it and was very unimpressed!,
    He was talking about his topless action man, becoming his bottomless action man. For obvious reasons he was saying. then about it becoming his action man being dressed in Barbie clothes and the rest is obvious.
    I thought it Brian being Brian! I also thought it was inappropriate.
    Very misjudged by Tv3.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    So many people who didn't see it, commenting on this thread.

    The OP is perhaps not phrased as well as it could be but I agree that the segment was overtly sexual and unsuitable for young kids.

    Plenty of comments about it in the thread dedicated to the show in the television forum.

    Nothing to do with Brian being gay. Had it being a female saying how much she liked having Barbie's Ken with his shirt off and leering at the camera the way Brian was, it still would have been unsuitable for the show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    newmug wrote: »
    I'll give your intelligence the benefit of the doubt here, seeing as you continuously state that you didn't see the show. It was a GAY man, telling the story of how his favourite CHILDHOOD toy was Action Man. Grand. But then he went on to say how he used to undress him (why would you do that, if not for some sort of twisted sexual thrill), and also cross dress him, into female clothes. This guy was layering it on thick, it was obvious that he had a sexual motive for doing these things. It was all so skin-crawlingly obvious that he loved saying this.


    And as for "Cross dressing is dressing in clothes designed for members of the other sex. It doesn't mean it has any sexual connections.", come off it, will ya? Of course it has a sexual motive. Why don't people go around dressing up as walrus's then?


    Ohhh dear....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    newmug wrote: »
    I'll give your intelligence the benefit of the doubt here, seeing as you continuously state that you didn't see the show. It was a GAY man, telling the story of how his favourite CHILDHOOD toy was Action Man. Grand. But then he went on to say how he used to undress him (why would you do that, if not for some sort of twisted sexual thrill), and also cross dress him, into female clothes. This guy was layering it on thick, it was obvious that he had a sexual motive for doing these things. It was all so skin-crawlingly obvious that he loved saying this.


    And as for "Cross dressing is dressing in clothes designed for members of the other sex. It doesn't mean it has any sexual connections.", come off it, will ya? Of course it has a sexual motive. Why don't people go around dressing up as walrus's then?
    As a young boy I sometimes walked around in my mums heels.

    Thanks to you I now know it was because I was sexually deviant.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    on the topic of dolls


    barbie-vs-he-man.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Macavity.


    degsie wrote: »
    Here is your lookup word for today. Homophobia.

    I think, perhaps, it should be your lookup word for today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭stimpson


    newmug wrote: »
    Why don't people go around dressing up as walrus's then?

    They do. They're called Furries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 776 ✭✭✭seventeen sheep


    r3nu4l wrote: »
    So many people who didn't see it, commenting on this thread.

    The OP is perhaps not phrased as well as it could be but I agree that the segment was overtly sexual and unsuitable for young kids.

    Plenty of comments about it in the thread dedicated to the show in the television forum.

    Nothing to do with Brian being gay. Had it being a female saying how much she liked having Barbie's Ken with his shirt off and leering at the camera the way Brian was, it still would have been unsuitable for the show.

    Fair enough, but seeing as he didn't post a link, we can only go off what he posted in the OP.

    If it was in the TV forums, fair enough, I wouldn't comment without having seen it. But this is AH ... I think it's a bit farfetched to assume many of his target audience have even seen it ... yet he wants opinions. If he had posted a link, I would have watched it before commenting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    stimpson wrote: »





    Tell me about your mother.




    Please don't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    Some of the replies here are funny, it's like the guy gets a free pass for sleazy sexual innuendo on a kids show because he's gay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    nm wrote: »
    Some of the replies here are funny, it's like the guy gets a free pass for sleazy sexual innuendo on a kids show because he's gay

    This was coming from never having seen the show and going by the OP. However, given the post below, I'm not quite sure it's unjustified, even if the guy on the show was being overly sexual.
    newmug wrote: »
    I'll give your intelligence the benefit of the doubt here, seeing as you continuously state that you didn't see the show. It was a GAY man, telling the story of how his favourite CHILDHOOD toy was Action Man. Grand. But then he went on to say how he used to undress him (why would you do that, if not for some sort of twisted sexual thrill), and also cross dress him, into female clothes. This guy was layering it on thick, it was obvious that he had a sexual motive for doing these things. It was all so skin-crawlingly obvious that he loved saying this.


    And as for "Cross dressing is dressing in clothes designed for members of the other sex. It doesn't mean it has any sexual connections.", come off it, will ya? Of course it has a sexual motive. Why don't people go around dressing up as walrus's then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    A gay tv presenter using sexual innuendo to get laughs? I'm shocked


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    degsie wrote: »
    Here is your lookup word for today. Homophobia.

    Are you equating homosexuality with transvestitism? That's pretty poor form.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    nm wrote: »
    Some of the replies here are funny, it's like the guy gets a free pass for sleazy sexual innuendo on a kids show because he's gay

    Depends how he said it.
    Maybe the OP is picking up sexual innuendo because he is gay.
    Or "the gay fella"as he calls him.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭newmug


    Fair enough, but seeing as he didn't post a link, we can only go off what he posted in the OP.

    If it was in the TV forums, fair enough, I wouldn't comment without having seen it. But this is AH ... I think it's a bit farfetched to assume many of his target audience have even seen it ... yet he wants opinions. If he had posted a link, I would have watched it before commenting.



    Eh, why? Its only national TV like?
    Cienciano wrote: »
    A gay tv presenter using sexual innuendo to get laughs? I'm shocked



    ON A NATIONAL TV KIDS SHOW!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Un Croissant


    And then a couple of drag queens arrived on.

    Tv3 pushing the global gay agenda and conspiracy, transvestite something something.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Oops69


    If he was inappropriate then tv3 should be reprimanded for it whatever his sexuality , suggesting that gay people get a free pass with this behaviour , if inappropriate ,is in itself homophobia.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    And then a couple of drag queens arrived on.

    Tv3 pushing the global gay agenda and conspiracy, transvestite something something.....


    What are Pantos made up of?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Un Croissant


    kneemos wrote: »
    What are Pantos made up of?

    I hate Panto.

    Louder!

    I said I hate Panto!

    What's that?

    I HATE PANTO!

    I can't heeear you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,331 ✭✭✭deise08


    I hate Panto.

    Louder!

    I said I hate Panto!

    What's that?

    I HATE PANTO!


    I can't heeear you.


    OH NO YOU DON'T!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Un Croissant


    deise08 wrote: »
    OH NO YOU DON'T!

    OH YES I DO!!

    Ad nauseam..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Nothing more sexually suggestive than a pantomime dame...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭fineso.mom


    If you had said ' the presenter' instead of saying ' the gay fella', I would have taken the rest of what you had to say more seriously.
    Based on what I've read elsewhere I agree that his comments were inappropriate, but
    not because he's gay. He's just not a particularily accomplished presenter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,062 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Just watched in on 3 player. He says putting Barbie's clothes on action made him like playing with Barbie "and the rest is history" I didn't find it pervy or see him leering at the camera?! I wasn't a barbie/doll kind of girl but remember my cousins dolls were always naked :p

    OP kids know what gay is from a young age without you telling them - you should ask them and see what they say.

    We asked my 5 year old nephew one time when he said somebody on tv (big brother maybe?) was gay which is was

    "Do you know what gay means!?" - he doesn't have english as his first language so we were intrigued as to what he's come out with
    "YES?! It means he likes girls for friends but not for love"
    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Macavity.


    The OP definitely could have been phrased better. Mentioning he was gay wasn't really relevant, but what was aired was certainly not appropriate for children IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Stop with the insults, folks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Dont think young kids understand or care about cross dressing action men

    Let's keep it that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    And then a couple of drag queens arrived on.

    One of them was Glenda Gilson I think.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Paulzx


    This was a kids toy show. Was a clip with sexual innuendo actually needed as part of the show? Not on your nelly was it.

    It's basically Brian Dowling doing his "look at me, look at me, I'm gay thing" Personally, I don't give a **** about a persons sexuality. It's irrelevant to me. What I find nauseating is the attention seeking in an inappropriate place.

    I think that clip was prerecorded as well so you have to question the production staff actually feeling it was relevant to a kids toy show


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭aidoh


    Had to go look for that clip on the TV3 player to see what all the fuss was about.

    It's at 1:12:33.
    http://www.tv3.ie/3player/show/694/87226/1/The-Christmas-Toy-Show

    I think it's inappropriate for a childrens show. At the same time though I don't know if kids would pick up on the kind of overly-sexual vibe he was putting out.
    See for yourselves sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    Is Brian Dowling gay?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭cruais


    I have a very dirty sense of humour so no risk of me getting easily offended.

    However, i remember raising my eyebrow and thinking it was a bit risqué when brian was speaking. It was a case of saying one thing, meaning another


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Zamboni wrote: »
    Is Brian Dowling gay?

    Gay as Christmas.


    Ironically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭Frank O. Pinion


    newmug wrote: »
    ???????


    Since the day it was invented
    Invented?
    newmug wrote: »
    And as for "Cross dressing is dressing in clothes designed for members of the other sex. It doesn't mean it has any sexual connections.", come off it, will ya? Of course it has a sexual motive. Why don't people go around dressing up as walrus's then?

    Women's panties are really comfortable, you know. Nothing sexual about being comfortable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Zamboni wrote: »
    Is Brian Dowling gay?

    He's not only gay, but he's the only gay in the village


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    If it aired after the watershed (9pm) then no harm no foul in my eyes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,038 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    newmug wrote: »
    ???????


    Since the day it was invented

    I take it you were protesting outside the local Xtra-Vision when Mrs. Brown D'Movie came out on DVD? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭MistyCheese


    Well I've certainly worn mens undies before for comfort. Not old undies, I bought a pack of mens boxers. I wouldn't have considered myself a transvestite really. Maybe I am.

    Come to think of it I have worn mens jumpers on occasion too. Never shoes or pants though.


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