Suggestions for changes to Dublin Bus routes

VG31

I will start it off with one.

The 11 could be changed so it goes down Griffith Avenue, Ballygall Road East and St. Canices Road instead of the Ballymun Road.

• Ballygall would benefit from two bus routes instead of one.
• Griffith Avenue between Ballygall Road East and Ballymun Road would be served by a bus route.
• The Ballymun Road would be effected very little as it would still has the 4, 9 and 13 to serve it.
• The only road that really loses out is St. Pappin Road but it is still not far to the bus stops on either end (much shorter than the current distance to the bus stops on either end of Griffith Avenue).

I have given rough locations in the map above of where new bus stops could be located.


Please feel free to comment on this change or suggest other ones for Dublin Bus routes.

KD345

It's a nice idea, but the busiest stop for the 11 is at DCU, and your proposed changes would re-route the service away from the college. Maybe there is scope to terminate it further into Glasnevin, but these areas are already well served by the 9 and 83/a. Taking it away from DCU is the last thing I'd do.

VG31

KD345 wrote: »

It's a nice idea, but the busiest stop for the 11 is at DCU, and your proposed changes would re-route the service away from the college. Maybe there is scope to terminate it further into Glasnevin, but these areas are already well served by the 9 and 83/a. Taking it away from DCU is the last thing I'd do.

I do understand that the 11 has high loadings at DCU but DCU would still be served by the 4, 9 and 13 which are all every 10-15 mins routes.

Or the 9 could be changed instead to serve Griffith Avenue, Ballygall Road East, Beneavin Drive and back onto Glasnevin Avenue.

LXFlyer

The last thing I'd do is remove any bus route from beside a university - they are one of the largest traffic generators anywhere!

That section of road needs all of the capacity that the 4, 9, 11 and 13 offer. They all offer connectivity to the University from different parts of the city. The 11 also offers a pretty much guaranteed bus that students can get on if other buses are full.

The 9 and 83/83a between them serve the Glasnevin area more than adequately - the old 19 was removed from there as there was far too much capacity, so I don't see why you'd put an additional route back in there.

VG31

Fair enough. I just presumed the 4, 9 and 13 would be adequate.

lucernarian

I would recommend a greater frequency for route 4, especially on Sundays. Every hour is not much good. I'm not sure what else is possible but the route 4/7 corridor seems to have particular problems.

I would also reroute route 47 back to what was originally proposed. I think a link from Ballsbridge and Merrion Square to Sandyford would serve more people. Right now, route 47 is too infrequent and unreliable to make much difference to sandymount or especially after ringsend road as route 1 is much more frequent and if route 47 reaches sandymount any time near a route 1 departure, they just bunch up anyway. I would offer a higher route 1 frequency instead if capacity turns out to be an issue.

macroman

lucernarian wrote: »

I would recommend a greater frequency for route 4, especially on Sundays. Every hour is not much good. I'm not sure what else is possible but the route 4/7 corridor seems to have particular problems.

More running time on the 4 would make it considerably more reliable - 75 mins during the day and 60 mins before and after peak make it almost impossible to make time on the other side of the route. Now with the Frascatti Rd works there are more 4C curtailments occurring.

thomasj

macroman wrote: »

More running time on the 4 would make it considerably more reliable - 75 mins during the day and 60 mins before and after peak make it almost impossible to make time on the other side of the route. Now with the Frascatti Rd works there are more 4C curtailments occurring.

Pity you couldn't have the 37, 38/a, 39, 70 run up the Pembroke road up to ballsbridge, maybe terminate somewhere near the Rds maybe near the 18 terminus

It would benefit people from the west heading to football matches and the rds

It will also benefit people going to ballsbridge from the city with more services and will also provide a link for Stephens green/baggott street to the ballsbridge area

Trond

The 83 shouldn't go down the Quays. The 34/134 never went that way. Stupid idea for the sake of one stop.

If it went up O Connell St. it would be at least 20mins quicker every evening.

LeinsterDub

Turn the 9/11/13 into feeder buses and create a town bus that runs every 5 minutes down Ballymun Road and a flat transfer fare.

If we wherent just tinkering around the edges

thomasj

Trond wrote: »

The 83 shouldn't go down the Quays. The 34/134 never went that way. Stupid idea for the sake of one stop.

If it went up O Connell St. it would be at least 20mins quicker every evening.

The 34/134 always went down the quays both when it started in middle abbey street then burgh quay.

LXFlyer

Trond wrote: »

The 83 shouldn't go down the Quays. The 34/134 never went that way. Stupid idea for the sake of one stop.

If it went up O Connell St. it would be at least 20mins quicker every evening.

But that would mean that the 4, 9, 83 and 140 would all go the same way through the city centre, which frankly is unnecessary duplication.


I'm not sure why having separate routes through the city is a bad idea?


It's hardly "one" stop either.

LXFlyer

thomasj wrote: »

Pity you couldn't have the 37, 38/a, 39, 70 run up the Pembroke road up to ballsbridge, maybe terminate somewhere near the Rds maybe near the 18 terminus

It would benefit people from the west heading to football matches and the rds

It will also benefit people going to ballsbridge from the city with more services and will also provide a link for Stephens green/baggott street to the ballsbridge area

I'm not sure extending the routes towards the RDS would do anything for service reliability on match/exhibition days?

Trond

thomasj wrote: »

The 34 always went down the quays. Sure it had to, it went from middle abbey street and later burgh quay

I don't remember the 34 well enough so I'll take your word on that.

I remember the 134 started at Middle Abbey St and went out via the Bridewell before the Luas was built. It also then used O Connell St for short period before it was changed to the 83 to use the Quays. It was probably too similar to the 19 route at that point but after that was removed it should have been revisited.

I just find it very weird that a bus heading to the Northside has to use the South side Quays every rush hour.

LXFlyer

Trond wrote: »

I don't remember the 34 well enough so I'll take your word on that.

I remember the 134 started at Middle Abbey St and went out via the Bridewell before the Luas was built. It also then used O Connell St for short period before it was changed to the 83 to use the Quays. It was probably too similar to the 19 route at that point but after that was removed it should have been revisited.

I just find it very weird that a bus heading to the Northside has to use the South side Quays every rush hour.

As I pointed out - it provides an additional route for anyone travelling to/from Phibsboro and Glasnevin than the 4, 9 and 140. Having every bus go exactly the same way makes no sense.

thomasj

Trond wrote: »

I don't remember the 34 well enough so I'll take your word on that.

I remember the 134 started at Middle Abbey St and went out via the Bridewell before the Luas was built. It also then used O Connell St for short period before it was changed to the 83 to use the Quays. It was probably too similar to the 19 route at that point but after that was removed it should have been revisited.

I just find it very weird that a bus heading to the Northside has to use the South side Quays every rush hour.

The only reason I know that the 34/134/83 always served the quays, was because it became the sole route to pass phibsboro garage from the quays after the 38s switched to the O'Connell street route back in 1992-1993. There was always a bus that served that route

devnull

The 4 got butchered during network direct and having worked on the route, Dublin Bus lost a lot of passengers who may never come back. The frequency is simply not enough and seeing multitude of buses go past full made me stop using that route when I was in my former job, and go back to the car.

I've since moved jobs, but many of my colleagues moved to the car and never changed back. The idea of sending a few 120s down there to help with the issues was stupid, and created yet another variation and confusion rather than actually adding back the buses that were there in the first place.

thomasj

lxflyer wrote: »

I'm not sure extending the routes towards the RDS would do anything for service reliability on match/exhibition days?

True I suppose. Plus with the problems the D15 routes seem to be happening issues with timetabling etc would need to be sorted before this could even be considered.

Trond

lxflyer wrote: »

As I pointed out - it provides an additional route for anyone travelling to/from Phibsboro and Glasnevin than the 4, 9 and 140. Having every bus go exactly the same way makes no sense.

Im probably biased in the sense I remember the fantastic commute times when the Quays weren't involved. The 19 and 134 also served areas the 4,9 and 140 don't. None of the 3 go up Glasnevin Hill.

The obvious solution is getting the 9 to go up Glasnevin Hill and turn off after the Met Office. The 4 and the 9 travel identical routes from Phibsboro up to Glasnevin Ave/Ballymun Road junction.

LXFlyer

devnull wrote: »

The 4 got butchered during network direct and having worked on the route, Dublin Bus lost a lot of passengers who may never come back. The frequency is simply not enough and seeing multitude of buses go past full made me stop using that route when I was in my former job, and go back to the car.

I've since moved jobs, but many of my colleagues moved to the car and never changed back. The idea of sending a few 120s down there to help with the issues was stupid, and created yet another variation and confusion rather than actually adding back the buses that were there in the first place.

The extension of peak hour 120 services was a specific request from resident's associations in the Rathborne and Royal Canal Park developments so I'd suggest that it was hardly "stupid".

devnull

lxflyer wrote: »

The extension of peak hour 120 services was a specific request from resident's associations in the Rathborne and Royal Canal Park developments so I'd suggest that it was hardly "stupid".

Maybe so, but it didn't sort out the greater problem about the capacity on the corridor of the 4 and the 7 that saw many people abandon services and never come back, despite the fact it was sold to people who complained as "resolving the capacity issues between city centre and Ballsbridge"

Also the 120's that went to Ballsbridge at the time it first started frequently displayed Parnell Street even when they were going to Ballsbridge, which lead to drivers being asked over and over again if they were going to Ballsbridge.

VG31

Trond wrote: »

The 83 shouldn't go down the Quays. The 34/134 never went that way. Stupid idea for the sake of one stop.

If it went up O Connell St. it would be at least 20mins quicker every evening.

No route would serve Church Street then. That isn't a good idea.

AlekSmart

devnull wrote: »

Maybe so, but it didn't sort out the greater problem about the capacity on the corridor of the 4 and the 7 that saw many people abandon services and never come back, despite the fact it was sold to people who complained as "resolving the capacity issues between city centre and Ballsbridge"

Also the 120's that went to Ballsbridge at the time it first started frequently displayed Parnell Street even when they were going to Ballsbridge, which lead to drivers being asked over and over again if they were going to Ballsbridge.

The rejunivation of the 4 route was one of the more successful calls made by BAC.
What possessed the company to cast this success aside and emasculate the route remains unexplained to this day.
As Devnull points out,the 4 had attracted NEW business to the Bus whose main demand was FREQUENCY,which they got,along with an acceptable reliability level.
I sould suggest that the route could well have sustained an even greater frequency,as well as being a trial for 24 hour running....

It remains a matter of conjecture as to what motivated these actions,but some would suggest it was simple lack of foresight ?

There are significant and rapidly worsening capacity problems on the Rock Road corridor at the moment,it has been flagged at Driver level for quite some time,and suggestions involving the reversion of the 47 to it's Merrion Rd/Ballsbridge alignment would offer a short term fix,however if I were the NTA,I'd be looking at redeploying at least some EXTRA resources onto the road before Christmas.;)

RayM

They should move the 84 away from Blackrock, and send it to Belfield or the city centre again. Or else just run it between Newcastle and Bray, every half-hour. Right now, very, very few people seem to use it north of Bray.

LXFlyer

devnull wrote: »

Maybe so, but it didn't sort out the greater problem about the capacity on the corridor of the 4 and the 7 that saw many people abandon services and never come back, despite the fact it was sold to people who complained as "resolving the capacity issues between city centre and Ballsbridge"

Also the 120's that went to Ballsbridge at the time it first started frequently displayed Parnell Street even when they were going to Ballsbridge, which lead to drivers being asked over and over again if they were going to Ballsbridge.

I'm not arguing about the 4 and 7 - to this day I don't really understand what the rationale was for what was done to the 4 in terms of service levels. However, the three 120 services were at the specific request of customers and hence I don't think that they were "stupid".

There were some serious implementation issues in the first phases of Network Direct, and frankly I think that DB learnt a lot from this process, with certainly many mistakes not being repeated. I'm not sure there's much point in going over all of them again at this point.

LXFlyer

AlekSmart wrote: »

The rejunivation of the 4 route was one of the more successful calls made by BAC.
What possessed the company to cast this success aside and emasculate the route remains unexplained to this day.
As Devnull points out,the 4 had attracted NEW business to the Bus whose main demand was FREQUENCY,which they got,along with an acceptable reliability level.
I sould suggest that the route could well have sustained an even greater frequency,as well as being a trial for 24 hour running....

It remains a matter of conjecture as to what motivated these actions,but some would suggest it was simple lack of foresight ?

There are significant and rapidly worsening capacity problems on the Rock Road corridor at the moment,it has been flagged at Driver level for quite some time,and suggestions involving the reversion of the 47 to it's Merrion Rd/Ballsbridge alignment would offer a short term fix,however if I were the NTA,I'd be looking at redeploying at least some EXTRA resources onto the road before Christmas.;)

I'm not sure that I'd reroute the 47 away from Sandymount - it actually generates a reasonably good traffic flow from Ringsend, Irishtown and Sandymount to the N11 and beyond. What's needed urgently on that route is more peak hour running time.


Additional capacity is needed across most of the core "super routes" to be honest.

Trond

thomasj wrote: »

The only reason I know that the 34/134/83 always served the quays, was because it became the sole route to pass phibsboro garage from the quays after the 38s switched to the O'Connell street route back in 1992-1993. There was always a bus that served that route

The 134 never went never went anywhere near the quays. It started at middle abbey street

thomasj

Trond wrote: »

The 134 never went never went anywhere near the quays. It started at middle abbey street

But how else would it get from middle abbey street to phibsboro?

loyatemu

RayM wrote: »

They should move the 84 away from Blackrock, and send it to Belfield or the city centre again. Or else just run it between Newcastle and Bray, every half-hour. Right now, very, very few people seem to use it north of Bray.

Original plan was to have it run to the Luas at Cherrywood, then local pols complained about UCD students not being able to get to college so it was extended to Belfield, then for no apparent reason the terminus was moved to Blackrock which suits no-one really.

Curtailing it to Bray would allow a much more frequent bus service for Kilcoole - anyone wanting to go any further could change onto the 145 or the Dart.

LXFlyer

loyatemu wrote: »

Original plan was to have it run to the Luas at Cherrywood, then local pols complained about UCD students not being able to get to college so it was extended to Belfield, then for no apparent reason the terminus was moved to Blackrock which suits no-one really.

Curtailing it to Bray would allow a much more frequent bus service for Kilcoole - anyone wanting to go any further could change onto the 145 or the Dart.

The switch to Blackrock was to allow for the cancellation of route 45.


There is still a need for a service from Blackrock south, particularly for schoolchildren.

LXFlyer

Trond wrote: »

The 134 never went never went anywhere near the quays. It started at middle abbey street

thomasj wrote: »

But how else would it get from middle abbey street to phibsboro?

The 134 was operated by Imp buses and as such was able to use the narrower streets to get to Church Street.


However, the 34 and 34a most certainly did operate via Capel Street and the South Quays to get to Church Street.


Look - there is a need for a bus service along Church Street, and that is what the 83 fulfils.

thomasj

lxflyer wrote: »

The 134 was operated by Imp buses and as such was able to use the narrower streets to get to Church Street.


However, the 34 and 34a most certainly did operate via Capel Street and the South Quays to get to Church Street.


Look - there is a need for a bus service along Church Street, and that is what the 83 fulfils.

Ah my bad! I vaguely remember now come to think of it the imps turning right at capel street and using the side streets, but the single decker cityswift buses that switched to tye route and later double deckers on the route made it move back to the quays especially when the terminus moved to burgh quay/corn exchange place.

loyatemu

lxflyer wrote: »

The switch to Blackrock was to allow for the cancellation of route 45.

There is still a need for a service from Blackrock south, particularly for schoolchildren.

OK - I'd forgotten about the 45. School bus requirements don't really justify running the route to Blackrock all day every day though.

stop

Any thoughts on the 17?
As an orbital route it gets choked by entering the main streets in suburbs, streets it needs to hit to get folk on board though.

I'd propose - take it off Roebuck Road/Clonskeagh/Bird Ave and instead route over mount Anville & Taney Road, maybe incorporating a loop into the Dundrum luas bus stop.

n97 mini

66 to run on the Chapelizod bypass (why did both the 25A and B get to bypass Chapelizod when the 66 or 67 routes are much longer). This would make the 66 remotely close to competitive with the train from Maynooth.

66B to originate in Celbridge, follow its normal route through Leixlip, and then like the 66 also bypass Chapelizod. This would link Celbridge and Leixlip (and HP and Intel), and give Celbridge a proper bus service instead of the half assed hand-me-down it gets with the 67.

thomasj

AlekSmart wrote: »

The rejunivation of the 4 route was one of the more successful calls made by BAC.
What possessed the company to cast this success aside and emasculate the route remains unexplained to this day.
As Devnull points out,the 4 had attracted NEW business to the Bus whose main demand was FREQUENCY,which they got,along with an acceptable reliability level.
I sould suggest that the route could well have sustained an even greater frequency,as well as being a trial for 24 hour running....

It remains a matter of conjecture as to what motivated these actions,but some would suggest it was simple lack of foresight ?

There are significant and rapidly worsening capacity problems on the Rock Road corridor at the moment,it has been flagged at Driver level for quite some time,and suggestions involving the reversion of the 47 to it's Merrion Rd/Ballsbridge alignment would offer a short term fix,however if I were the NTA,I'd be looking at redeploying at least some EXTRA resources onto the road before Christmas.;)

Is 24-hour services on the cards?

ordinary_girl

lxflyer wrote: »

The 11 also offers a pretty much guaranteed bus that students can get on if other buses are full.

This, especially during the nightmare that is Friday afternoons.

I'd re-route the 75 and get rid of the meandering section that runs through Ballinteer, and as an alternative either go: straight up Barton Road once the bus has past Nutgrove and connect to Dundrum that way, or follow the 17 route that goes up the Churchtown Road but instead turn into Dundrum Village and then continue on to Dun Laoghaire.

Dyr

Should be noted that not only is the 4 a cattle truck, it seems to be far the worst service for disappearing off the grid as far as RTPI goes adding to the lack of reliabilty

Add to that Dublin buses only successful act of synchronisation where they managed to get 4 9 and 13 routes to go down the Ballymun road at exactly the same time...

AlekSmart

thomasj wrote: »

Is 24-hour services on the cards?

Yes

LXFlyer

ordinary_girl wrote: »

This, especially during the nightmare that is Friday afternoons.

I'd re-route the 75 and get rid of the meandering section that runs through Ballinteer, and as an alternative either go: straight up Barton Road once the bus has past Nutgrove and connect to Dundrum that way, or follow the 17 route that goes up the Churchtown Road but instead turn into Dundrum Village and then continue on to Dun Laoghaire.

While that re-routing of the 75 away from Ballinteer might suit you, what about the reasonably large numbers of people who use the 75 in either direction along that section of the route? You don't seem to be taking them into account in your proposal?

For the 75 to be straightened out, a second route would have to be implemented to serve the areas missed out, including Ballinteer.

Dublin Bus already proposed such an idea during the Network Direct project, straightening out the 75, and introducing a second route 175 that would operate as follows:

Route 75
Tallaght (The Square) » Old Bawn Road » Firhouse Road » Butterfield Avenue » Nutgrove Avenue » Churchtown Road » Dundrum » Sandyford Industrial Estate » Stillorgan Shopping Centre » Foxrock Church » Kill Avenue » Dún Laoghaire Rail Station

Route 175
Tallaght (The Square) » Old Bawn Road » Killininny Road » Scholarstown Road » Grange Road » Broadford Road >> Ballinteer Avenue » Dundrum Shopping Centre » Sandyford Industrial Estate » Stillorgan Shopping Centre » Monkstown Link Road » Monkstown Avenue » Dún Laoghaire Rail Station

Unfortunately the idea got put on the long finger due to the economic downturn and lack of funds to implement it.

VG31

Trond wrote: »

The obvious solution is getting the 9 to go up Glasnevin Hill and turn off after the Met Office. The 4 and the 9 travel identical routes from Phibsboro up to Glasnevin Ave/Ballymun Road junction.

That would be a good idea, the Ballymun Road near the Met Office used to be served by the 13, having the 9 go up there would be ideal.

I also agree with the frequency of the 4 being increased, especially on Sundays.

The frequency of the 140 was also hit badly by Network Direct. It went from every every 10 mins Monday-Friday to every 20 mins.

salmocab

The orbital routes can be a right pain and I think we need a few more on more direct routes (don't know what but needs to be done), haven't used the 75 in a long time but it used to be a disaster for travel times.

Dyr

VG31 wrote: »

That would be a good idea, the Ballymun Road near the Met Office used to be served by the 13, having the 9 go up there would be ideal.

I also agree with the frequency of the 4 being increased, especially on Sundays.

The frequency of the 140 was also hit badly by Network Direct. It went from every every 10 mins Monday-Friday to every 20 mins.

that stretch from the ballymun road through botanic up to the corner of mobhi road was an absolute nightmare for buses though, awful backlog. Plus the 4 and 9 are about a five minute walk from the met office as things are

BookBook

I would like to see all the 120 buses go across the city centre instead of to or from Parnell St. It can take 20 mins to walk to Stephens Green or Pearse St from here. Currently the 7.40, 8.00 and 8.20 go as far as Ballsbridge. That’s if they turn up.

I would also like to see the 150 go across the city centre instead of to or from Fleet St.

If not at the very least you should be able to use the same ticket to get you there instead of having to pay a city fare.

I would like to see the 122 stop on D’olier St again.

Losty Dublin

BookBook wrote: »

If not at the very least you should be able to use the same ticket to get you there instead of having to pay a city fare.

Leap Card has a feature that allows you unlimited transfers within 90 minutes a al Transfer 90.

BookBook wrote: »

I would like to see the 122 stop on D’olier St again.

I used that stop for the 122 as well but to be honest it is severely congested at rush hour; more so given the works associated with the Luas construction works. Given that you can get many buses adjacent to D'Olier Street which tail the 122's route (9/16 from D'Olier Street, the 68/A from Burgh Quay, the 27 and 151 from Eden Quay or College Green and the 150 from Fleet Steet.) or indeed the 122 from Clery's or College Green, it was the easier bus to move.

dquinnan

Have the 76 return to using its former route past Ronanstown Garda Station and the Fonthill and Nangor Roads, instead of sending it over Neilstown Bridge and having it getting stuck for ages at two sets of lights, and trying to pull away from two close (badly) placed stops on the Ninth Lock Road.

Have a 13 that serves the tedious Woodford Estate loop in Clondalkin, and a 13a which uses the vastly quicker Monastery Road.

sadbob

I'd stop the 145 going as far as Klimac - i witness so many buses with minimal occupancy each way every day. Outbound from city centre should swing a left onto the Boghall and then back around on the southern cross for the inward journey. Plenty of space on the southern cross for a terminus too. Kilmac to bray/Killarney rd. could easily be serviced with a local service. Speed bumps on boghall may be an issue but then just do a loop on the southern cross - would service much more customers than the population of Kilmac.

sadbob

I'd stop the 145 going as far as Klimac - i witness so many buses with minimal occupancy each way every day. Outbound from city centre should swing a left onto the Boghall and then back around on the southern cross for the inward journey. Plenty of space on the southern cross for a terminus too. Kilmac to bray/Killarney rd. could easily be serviced with a local service of equal frequency. Speed bumps on boghall may be an issue but then just do a loop on the southern cross - would service much more customers than the population of Kilmac.

Stevek101

sadbob wrote: »

I'd stop the 145 going as far as Klimac - i witness so many buses with minimal occupancy each way every day. Outbound from city centre should swing a left onto the Boghall and then back around on the southern cross for the inward journey. Plenty of space on the southern cross for a terminus too. Kilmac to bray/Killarney rd. could easily be serviced with a local service. Speed bumps on boghall may be an issue but then just do a loop on the southern cross - would service much more customers than the population of Kilmac.

From January

The changes in the routes will result in the ceasing of the 145 between Kilmacanogue and Ballywaltrim.
The 45a, which comes from Dun Laoghaire and currently terminates at Ballywaltrim, will be extended to Kilmacanogue.
The 145 will now go as far as the new bus lay-by on the slip road between the Killarney Road and Southern Cross.

http://www.independent.ie/regionals/braypeople/news/145-route-will-not-service-kilmac-30754041.html

white apples

Have buses going across the city rather than everything going in and out of town.

i.e. West Dublin (Templeogue/Tallagh) to Blackrock/Dun Laoghaire area, which isn't far, but by public transport means going all the way into town and all the way back out again.

And do the same accross the city. Have circular routes around the city rather than through it.

thomasj

white apples wrote: »

Have buses going across the city rather than everything going in and out of town.

i.e. West Dublin (Templeogue/Tallagh) to Blackrock/Dun Laoghaire area, which isn't far, but by public transport means going all the way into town and all the way back out again.

And do the same accross the city. Have circular routes around the city rather than through it.

But you have as it is:

- blackrock to dolphins barn
- old Lucan road to sandymount
- tallaght to dun laoghaire
- tallaght to chapelizod
Those routes cover a lot of the south side

Northside has seen the 17a extended to blanchardstown a few years ago to finally give us one proper orbital route but its still missing swords and the airport.