Lads. W.T.F?

emo72

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1500639346866275

just after watching this video. and i am sickened to my stomach. what is going on with the gards when one of their members can do this.

i hope this is okay to post.

solomafioso

A bit excessive all right. Three guards to tackle / throw one girl. I mean both parties are at fault here. She shouldn't have been standing near the car and the guards didn't need to use that much force. No one "wins".

Quite convenient that the hi-vis gets out of the situation (obviously to move down the crowd), but I think there was an ulterior motive :pac:

efb

Move please.

newmug

Cant understand why the Guards aren't with the protesters at all these events. Their wages were cut too, while the govt. lord it around the place.

emo72

the 2 gards had her under control. the "guy?" in hi viz runs from the other side of the car and slam dunks her into the bollard. he didn't have to get involved. he may have even slowed up the car from getting away. the girl herself looked quite young, and i dont know, she might have been a little idealistic, but jesus people have been killed by actions like that. there was no need for that at all. im shocked at that level of violence. heartbroken even. that could be anyones daughter, maybe overlly excited by the protest but she needs to be pulled aside and protected. not a massive assault.

emo72

efb wrote: »

Move please.

why?

efb

They asked her to move please

emo72

efb wrote: »

They asked her to move please

oh, well then. it was all a little misunderstanding. obviously they were only escorting her skull to the side of the pavement.

and just to let you know, i never had a problem with gards, many friends are gards, im bewildered that someone could do this. also when someone does this to a gard i utterly condemn it too. this violence belongs no-where.

solomafioso

efb wrote: »

They asked her to move please

But, I suppose the next question would be "does that excuse the level of force used to shove her to the path?"

They could have easily body blocked her instead of actually flinging her to one side. I'm just going on what I see here...and as I stated above, she is partly at fault as she wouldn't move.

efb

Wtf is a gard?

gctest50

Could have been worse for her

http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=380_1373390915

emo72

efb wrote: »

Wtf is a gard?

shortened version of garda.gardai with some fadas thrown in perhaps? definitely not a guard. thats a different thing. pedantic all the same. any input from yourself on the video?

solomafioso

emo72 wrote: »

shortened version of garda.gardai with some fadas thrown in perhaps? definitely not a guard. thats a different thing. pedantic all the same. any input from yourself on the video?

Don't feed the troll.

efb

emo72 wrote: »

shortened version of garda.gardai with some fadas thrown in perhaps? definitely not a guard. thats a different thing. pedantic all the same. any input from yourself on the video?

Why did she runout in front of the Taoiseach's car?

Also she is not seen hitting the bollard

crosswords

This is simply shocking behaviour. Things are really getting out of hand. Someone is really going to get hurt. Total over reaction by AGS and very unprofessional.

She could have been killed.

I wonder will the ombudsman investigate this one?

efb

crosswords wrote: »

This is simply shocking behaviour. Things are really getting out of hand. Someone is really going to get hurt. Total over reaction by AGS and very unprofessional.

She could have been killed.

I wonder will the ombudsman investigate this one?

Jumping in front of a car like that she could have

solomafioso

efb wrote: »

Walking close to the car like that she could have

Fixed your post. :pac:

efb

solomafioso wrote: »

Fixed your post. :pac:

Fix your own first dear.

solomafioso

efb wrote: »

Fix your own first dear.

"You want me to say 'what', like I don't get it?" :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQQdJ07y8Z8

emo72

efb wrote: »

Why did she runout in front of the Taoiseach's car?

Also she is not seen hitting the bollard

idealistic youth. 2 "gardai" had her under control. did she hit the bollard? . the thudding sound meant she hit something. concrete or bollard. take your pick. not pleasant either way.

efb

emo72 wrote: »

idealistic youth. 2 "gardai" had her under control. did she hit the bollard? . the thudding sound meant she hit something. concrete or bollard. take your pick. not pleasant either way.

No Gardai had to manhandle me today

emo72

efb wrote: »

Why did she runout in front of the Taoiseach's car?

Also she is not seen hitting the bollard

efb wrote: »

No Gardai had to manhandle me today

thanks for the input. enlightening.

solomafioso

efb wrote: »

No, Gardaí had to manhandle me today!

Punctuation might help, eh? :pac:

I hear you pay double for that sort of action.

efb

solomafioso wrote: »

Punctuation might help, eh? :pac:

I hear you pay double for that sort of action.

You would know.

endacl

crosswords wrote: »

I wonder will the ombudsman investigate this one?

Yes, if she makes a complaint. No, if she doesn't.

Obviously.

solomafioso

efb wrote: »

You would know.

Oooh matron!

efb

solomafioso wrote: »

Oooh matron!

That's a carry on line, not Mr Bean.

Gatling

So did anyone happen to see fiona ( as named in the various fb posts ) actually hit the bollard or read the title and decided she was thrown into the bollard without actually seeing it ,

efb

Gatling wrote: »

So did anyone happen to see fiona ( as named in the various fb posts ) actually hit the bollard or read the title and decided she was thrown into the bollard without actually seeing it ,

Don't be bothered with things like facts! We just want hysteria

solomafioso

Gatling wrote: »

So did anyone happen to see fiona ( as named in the various fb posts ) actually hit the bollard or read the title and decided she was thrown into the bollard without actually seeing it ,

I think we're sticking to a "magic bollard" theory at the moment. Or maybe it was the bollard in the grassy knoll. Completely overlooking the fact that the guard shoved her...to get her off the road.

Gatling

efb wrote: »

Don't be bothered with things like facts! We just want hysteria

Like 110% of the short garda brutality videos posted that showed absolute the opposite

emo72

Gatling wrote: »

So did anyone happen to see fiona ( as named in the various fb posts ) actually hit the bollard or read the title and decided she was thrown into the bollard without actually seeing it ,

I've only seen the video i posted. its enough to make me sick. i didnt see the girl hit the concrete or bollard. thank god. does it really make much difference? surely anyone would agree its horrible anyway. would you like it done to you? im not here to garda bash. this thread does belong here. i would like to get the input from gardai on this. would every gardai think this is acceptable?

solomafioso

Gatling wrote: »

Like 110% of the short garda brutality videos posted that showed absolute the opposite

I think this may be the "one video to rule them all" (I don't know either!).

We see a woman walking beside the car, quite close.

And, initially two Guards, confront and are seen pushing her away. Our third "hero" enters stage left and gives her a good oul rugger bugger shove to the path then quickly exits. The bollard was just an innocent bystander.

Some old saying about smoke and fire that can be related to phones and acts of violence nowadays.

SeaDaily

emo72 wrote: »

its enough to make me sick.

Must be an awfully difficult life being so sensitive.

solomafioso

SeaDaily wrote: »

Must be an awfully difficult life being so sensitive.

Or y'know, empathetic?

endacl

Gatling wrote: »

So did anyone happen to see fiona ( as named in the various fb posts ) actually hit the bollard or read the title and decided she was thrown into the bollard without actually seeing it ,

efb wrote: »

Don't be bothered with things like facts! We just want hysteria

solomafioso wrote: »

I think we're sticking to a "magic bollard" theory at the moment. Or maybe it was the bollard in the grassy knoll. Completely overlooking the fact that the guard shoved her...to get her off the road.

Justice for the bollard!

:mad:

emo72

SeaDaily wrote: »

Must be an awfully difficult life being so sensitive.

not just me then. this video has gone viral. anyone who has seen and heard the "thud" is sickened by it. or maybe im wrong. im over reacting, "move along nothing to see here". im the fool for asking on a forum that gardai are on, is this acceptable. i take it all back. im the idiot for starting this thread here.

SeaDaily

solomafioso wrote: »

Or y'know, empathetic?

Yeah but it must be terribly tiring to be so empathetic and dramatic all the time.

"OH MY GOD THAT'S DISGUSTING I FEEL SICK WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO"

That sort of melodrama solves nothing.

efb

emo72 wrote: »

not just me then. this video has gone viral. anyone who has seen and heard the "thud" is sickened by it. or maybe im wrong. im over reacting, "move along nothing to see here". im the fool for asking on a forum that gardai are on, is this acceptable. i take it all back. im the idiot for starting this thread here.

Define "gone viral"?

SeaDaily

emo72 wrote: »

not just me then. this video has gone viral. anyone who has seen and heard the "thud" is sickened by it. or maybe im wrong. im over reacting, "move along nothing to see here". im the fool for asking on a forum that gardai are on, is this acceptable. i take it all back. im the idiot for starting this thread here.

It's not just you over-reacting it's all those who are commenting on the Facebook post as well.

efb

emo72 wrote: »

not just me then. this video has gone viral. anyone who has seen and heard the "thud" is sickened by it. or maybe im wrong. im over reacting, "move along nothing to see here". im the fool for asking on a forum that gardai are on, is this acceptable. i take it all back. im the idiot for starting this thread here.

After Hours more suited to the hyperbole

masonchat

absolutely DISGUISTING that THUG should be signing on tomorrow

solomafioso

SeaDaily wrote: »

Yeah but it must be terribly tiring to be so empathetic and dramatic all the time.

"OH MY GOD THAT'S DISGUSTING I FEEL SICK WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO"

That sort of melodrama solves nothing.

As does the other side of the scale. Also empathy != melodrama.

Sometimes being level headed pays off too!

SeaDaily

masonchat wrote: »

absolutely DISGUISTING that THUG should be signing on tomorrow

Good thing you bolded those two words, wouldn't have been able to read them otherwise.

SeaDaily

solomafioso wrote: »

As does the other side of the scale. Also empathy != melodrama.

Sometimes being level headed pays off too!

Yes absolutely. However, please go and read the comments on that Facebook video and then come back and tell me that the people reacting to this video are being level-headed.

emo72

efb wrote: »

After Hours more suited to the hyperbole

wanted to get some gardai input. thats why i posted here. im anti water charges. heart on sleeve type of guy. im not overly sensitive, i have kids, if they were in town and got involved in protests, i would expect gardai to protect them. not ****ing assault young girls. yeah it sounds like hyperbole. but its accurate. a massive assault by 3 men on a young girl.

hfallada

She threw herself infront of a moving car! Throwing yourself infront of a moving car isnt going to end well. Regardless of if they are Gardai, your first response is to pull the person back. The Garda must not have realised how much they pulled her. Look at the body stance of the Garda after he pulls the women. He is shocked.

Also why is the video cut after 15 seconds? Has he gone to apologise, but the tape was conveniently cut?

efb

emo72 wrote: »

wanted to get some gardai input. thats why i posted here. im anti water charges. heart on sleeve type of guy. im not overly sensitive, i have kids, if they were in town and got involved in protests, i would expect gardai to protect them. not ****ing assault young girls. yeah it sounds like hyperbole. but its accurate. a massive assault by 3 men on a young girl.

She's not a young girl. She's either a young woman or an older girl

solomafioso

SeaDaily wrote: »

Yes absolutely. However, please go and read the comments on that Facebook video and then come back and tell me that the people reacting to this video are being level-headed.

That's another thing, I haven't read those comments. We're discussing this on a message board which is supposed to stick to facts, and therefore have an informed discussion. A 'debate' if you will. Not resort to petty gripes regarding spelling or condescension.

emo72

efb wrote: »

She's not a young girl. She's either a young woman or an older girl

again you are being pedantic. she is a young woman. my apologies.

efb

emo72 wrote: »

again you are being pedantic. she is a young woman. my apologies.

I feel your misuse of young girl was being emotive