Dog friendly restaurants in Co. Dublin

ammollo85

Hi, I come from continental Europe and I moved to Dublin a couple of months ago. I moved here with my dog, she is a lovely Jack Russell.
As many people from the continent know, bringing your dog with you for breakfast or lunch in a pub or restaurant is quite common.
Once I moved here I realized that managers here are not of the same opinion, which made me feel going back to the 80s. They seem to find the idea outrageous if not a felony. This really shocked me and I cannot really get over it. Are there actual places where I can sit inside, have some food and keep my dog on my lap? I don't mind paying 10 euros for an espresso, really.

Dtp1979

ammollo85 wrote: »

Hi, I come from continental Europe and I moved to Dublin a couple of months ago. I moved here with my dog, she is a lovely Jack Russell.
As many people from the continent know, bringing your dog with you for breakfast or lunch in a pub or restaurant is quite common.
Once I moved here I realized that managers here are not of the same opinion, which made me feel going back to the 80s. They seem to find the idea outrageous if not a felony. This really shocked me and I cannot really get over it. Are there actual places where I can sit inside, have some food and keep my dog on my lap? I don't mind paying 10 euros for an espresso, really.

Ireland is about 10-15 years behind in everything I'm afraid. The only way you'll get a dog in is if you're blind

falabo

ammollo85 wrote: »

Are there actual places where I can sit inside, have some food and keep my dog on my lap? I don't mind paying 10 euros for an espresso, really.

I would love to bring my dogs too but still wouldn't pay € 10 for an espresso ! Even if I won the lottery !

bikedude

thefumbally.ie
Nice food and dogs are welcome inside, and the espresso is way cheaper than €10,00 eur.

SingItOut

I'm in Dublin regularly and always see people outside restaurants with their dogs in the city centre. There's a restaurant near George's arcade and there's always a man outside it with his Jack russell.

ammollo85

I don't want to stay outside under the rain, in the cold.

SingItOut

There are covers provided for outdoor seating areas. Animals wouldn't be allowed into the actual restaurant for hygiene purposes. That said there's a man in my local pub here who brings his dog in with him regularly, very well behaved dog. It depends on the restaurant owner rather than the managers, the managers have to stick to the owners rules and also have to think of other customers comfort.

ammollo85

Hygiene purposes? My dog arse is very likely cleaner than those of most people :-). And this does not seem to pose a problem in the rest of EU, because it's not. I tend to agree with Dtp1979 then.

Drunk people yes, dog + owners no?

Qualitymark

Ireland isn't 10 years behind; Ireland has copped on to hygiene. Except in hospitals, of course.

We've gone a bit crazy with it, though - for instance, you used always be able to bring well-behaved dogs on the bus, but you had to bring them upstairs. Since the upper classes abandoned public transport this has been stopped.

Fumbally is a lovely cafe, really good food and a nice atmosphere and layout. If it's dog-friendly, all the better.

ammollo85

I don't really think hygiene is the reason here. The hygienic standards here are much lower compared to other places in mainland EU.

eviltwin

I love dogs but I don't really want them around me when I am eating. I suppose hygiene is part of it but maybe it's just too off putting to other customers.

Into The Blue

I always thought I'd be against animals inn pubs or restaurants... But having spent time in the south of England where it was common place, I miss it now!!

Pure Irish mentality, only want what I'm used to!!

Triboro

All to do with hygiene regardless of how clean a dog is,most people don't even let them into the house.

ammollo85

I will be more than happy to give all my money to Fumbally then. I wonder if there are other places like that.
My Jack Russell does not like staying out in the cold, and I would love to go out to walk my dog and have a coffee without having to return home between the two.

I have lived in Germany and Switzerland and they are anal about health and safety, but they allow dogs in restaurants, cafes, museums, trains, planes, buses, supermarkets. Because owners are considered considered responsible for anything their dogs do. Kids, dogs, same thing. And hygiene is on average better than here. Sticky and dirty tables are the felony there.

Qualitymark

it's often psychologically hard when you move to a new country, hard to give up what you've been used to as the norm, and realise that there are other norms there.

Triboro

"Kids,dogs,same thing" ???????

henryporter

Had lunch in a michelin star restaurant in France, where the restaurant owners dog had the full run of the place including stopping by each of the guests for a pet.

Reasons of hygiene are nothing to do with it here - it's just the typical Irish begrudgery that we have - it's a simple case of "no, we can't allow you to enjoy yourself, but we will charge you a ridiculous amount of money for second rate service and food"

SingItOut

As much as I love dogs and my own two (who are 98% always indoors) if I go to a restaurant I don't want dog hairs in my food or drink :rolleyes: Dogs here are certainly welcome on trains, buses (at the drivers discretion) and taxis as I brought my jack Russell in them regularly. If your dog doesn't like the cold then buying him a jacket for walking outside would be the obvious thing to do, he should have one anyway in this weather. Next time you go to a restaurant ask the manager why your dog isn't allowed in.

leinsterdude

Dogs should not be in a restaurant no way ! 😷

nc19

I wonder if you had a St. Bernard instead of a handbag dog would you be so quick to want to bring them out for coffee???

phater phagan

Perhaps if you ask restaurant managers around your neighbourhood if they allow well-behaved dogs inside - you might possibly find one that doesn't mind it ( especially if they are dog lovers themselves). I do not have a dog - but was not offended whenever I have eaten in a restaurant where there was a dog present.

ammollo85

leinsterdude wrote: »

Dogs should not be in a restaurant no way ! 😷

Why? It's like saying that muslims are not welcome because some of them put bombs. Are you able to distinguish between the two groups of people?

Mod note: on thread warning issued for this post

ammollo85

Triboro wrote: »

"Kids,dogs,same thing" ???????

In terms of law compliance, I don't see how a dog is any worse than a kid. They can both cause damage, but in the end I have never seen a "kids not allowed" sign around here.

Jezek

ammollo85 wrote: »

Why? It's like saying that muslims are not welcome because some of them put bombs. Are you able to distinguish between the two groups of people?

I was with you until this OP...

Dtp1979

nc19 wrote: »

I wonder if you had a St. Bernard instead of a handbag dog would you be so quick to want to bring them out for coffee???

My St. Bernard loved nothing more than her mid morning latte in the local cafe

eviltwin

Animals are unpredictable. I have two dogs and they are both well behaved but I can't guarantee they wouldn't bark, annoy other dogs or diners or engage in other annoying behaviour. For that reason I wouldn't inflict them on people trying to relax, it wouldn't be fair.

hfallada

Ireland isnt behind the rest of Europe. Its just the country we live in. You dont really see dogs in Dublin city centre, as most apartments dont allow dogs in them. Its mainly for noise reasons and because LLs dont like animals in their rental properties. But even Toronto, Canada has banned dogs in places where they serve food for hygiene reasons. Restaurants in Germany has to follow special regulations to allow dogs in their restaurants eg there has to be a special dog on the kitchen

Although Im allergic to dogs. I can sit my dog for hours and not have an issue(super short haired).But have gone into my friends houses and without the dog being in the room, within 10 mins my nose is running and my eyes are watering. I dont want to go into a restaurant and have allergy issues.

ammollo85

I am allergic to dog hair and saliva too, but as long as I keep everything super clean and my hands washed I am fine. I have never had issues with restaurants allowing dogs in Germany nor have seen anybody complain. Dogs in Germany can go almost anywhere, everything is clean, no ebola spreading and people find it normal. Not sure if you've really lived in Deutschland by the looks of it. Italy is the same, because many of us just spend their whole holidays there. Same thing for CH and F.

DBB

ammollo85 wrote: »

Why? It's like saying that muslims are not welcome because some of them put bombs. Are you able to distinguish between the two groups of people?

Out of line ammollo85,
Your general attitude in this thread is just a bit pushy. Tone it down or the thread will be closed.
Do not reply to this post on thread.
Thanks,
DBB

looking_around

ammollo85 wrote: »

I will be more than happy to give all my money to Fumbally then. I wonder if there are other places like that.
My Jack Russell does not like staying out in the cold, and I would love to go out to walk my dog and have a coffee without having to return home between the two.

I have lived in Germany and Switzerland and they are anal about health and safety, but they allow dogs in restaurants, cafes, museums, trains, planes, buses, supermarkets. Because owners are considered considered responsible for anything their dogs do. Kids, dogs, same thing. And hygiene is on average better than here. Sticky and dirty tables are the felony there.

I had a small chihuahua, I used to take around with me. Whenever we went to sit down to eat, I placed him into a bag. he loved it!. I would take him on the bus this way, and into shops. Only ever got kicked out of Claire's Accessories XD

However I don't know of any specific dog friendly places. Most would be against it because majority of people would not want it. There's also a risk of dog fights etc. My experience of mainland europe, majority of dogs were much much better behaved than you would see here, sadly.

Triboro

ammollo85 wrote: »

In terms of law compliance, I don't see how a dog is any worse than a kid. They can both cause damage, but in the end I have never seen a "kids not allowed" sign around here.

Exactly, kids will always be welcome!

sillysmiles

Seriously, you have moved to a new country with different laws than the previous country you lived in. That's it. The laws aren't going to change for one person.*

As I type I am sitting in my kitchen with my cat on my lap and the dog sitting quietly 2 foot away but I still wouldn't like to go to a city restaurant with them. Nor would I expect other people to have to put up with them. And not just because of fear or allergies.

I would be happy to sit outside a country pub to eat/drink at the end of a walk with the dog-but that's not what you are looking for.

* I lived in Switzerland where the laws mean shops close on Sundays and you aren't meant to flush your toilet after 10pm-there are always laws in new countries that seem odd when you are new to the country-getting used to the way things work in your new country is part of the process of assimilating.

ammollo85

The toilet flush thing is just for old buildings and it makes sense. Shops closed once a week is also a thing here. What are you talking about?

Because things are the way they are it doesn't mean that they are right or optimal. Find me a scientific evidence of why letting dogs in is a problem, provided that such dogs are clean and well behaved.

ammollo85

Also sillysmiles, can you give me pointers to such laws that are in place in Ireland? I wasn't able to find any.

masonchat

Not all dogs are going to be as well behaved as your jack russell , some will pee some will poo some will bite , i love dogs but i dont think they have any place in a restaurant, probably an insurance issue as well

Qualitymark

Here's a list of a few places that apparently allow dogs.

http://lovindublin.com/dublin/the-top-10-places-in-dublin-to-eat-or-drink-with-your-dogs-in-tow

Thing is, the law - or if not the law, the custom (though I always thought it was the law) changed about 15 or 20 years ago. It used to be the norm that dogs wandered the streets, pooing at will, and that they'd be allowed into food shops and restaurants. Then at that stage a change (as I say, I thought it was a change in law, and still suspect that this is so) came about and dogs were no longer welcome in any food outlet, nor was it considered good to allow them to wander.

The people who can tell you the law on it, OP, are the Food Safety Authority in Ireland. Google will guide you to them.

ammollo85

masonchat wrote: »

Not all dogs are going to be as well behaved as your jack russell , some will pee some will poo some will bite , i love dogs but i dont think they have any place in a restaurant, probably an insurance issue as well

Sure, I completely agree about dog behaviour, etc. That's why fines exist, which is how other parts of the EU deal with it successfully.

masonchat

ammollo85 wrote: »

Sure, I completely agree about dog behaviour, etc. That's why fines exist, which is how other parts of the EU deal with it successfully.

Fair enough but you can see how it is just easier for them to not allow dogs , i think its a good idea for a poll , should dogs be allowed in restaurants

Qualitymark

masonchat wrote: »

Fair enough but you can see how it is just easier for them to not allow dogs , i think its a good idea for a poll , should dogs be allowed in restaurants

Good idea. Away you go!

Dubl07

SingItOut wrote: »

As much as I love dogs and my own two (who are 98% always indoors) if I go to a restaurant I don't want dog hairs in my food or drink :rolleyes: Dogs here are certainly welcome on trains, buses (at the drivers discretion) and taxis as I brought my jack Russell in them regularly. If your dog doesn't like the cold then buying him a jacket for walking outside would be the obvious thing to do, he should have one anyway in this weather. Next time you go to a restaurant ask the manager why your dog isn't allowed in.

I love dogs and children but if a customer's dog is sitting beside its owner on the floor, how in the name of all that's holy could you get dog hairs in your food or drink? Floor level dogs with good manners would be a lot easier to manage than children older than buggy age who can climb etc. Frankly, a dog's paws or tummy/behind on the floor are of the same of muckiness as the clientele's shoes. I wouldn't eat off the floor in any restaurant.

ammollo85

I've spent some time in many EU countries, most of the times I was bringing my dog with me. I've never seen such a dog hostile country as this one, which is why I find all the health & safety reasons hard to believe. All I want is just a place where I can spend a couple of hours drinking coffee and petting my paw. It looks like some of you suggested some, and I will definitely give them a try.

AgileMyth

ammollo85 wrote: »

Hygiene purposes? My dog arse is very likely cleaner than those of most people :-)

When you implement rules like this its far easier to put in a blanket ban than base it on an individual case.

Say you're sitting in a restaurant with your dog and someone else trys to come in with a filthy smelly dog, how do you then refuse them?

ammollo85

AgileMyth wrote: »

When you implement rules like this its far easier to put in a blanket ban than base it on an individual case.

Say you're sitting in a restaurant with your dog and someone else trys to come in with a filthy smelly dog, how do you then refuse them?

You just say no? o.O

duckmusic

Just because you like dogs doesn't mean everyone does. I think it is very selfish to make others feel uncomfortable because you want your dog sitting at the that table with you. I certainly would be unimpressed if I went out for breakfast and there was a dog in the restaurant.

What if for example I liked to play the bagpipes while I drink a coffee? Do you think because I enjoy it I should ignore everyone else in there and interfer with their enjoyment of the meal they purchased? No... if I want to play the bagpipes and drink coffee I will stay home and do it.

GarIT

ammollo85 wrote: »

You just say no? o.O

What if another customer thinks your dig is dirty and wants you to leave?

hfallada

ammollo85 wrote: »

I have never had issues with restaurants allowing dogs in Germany nor have seen anybody complain. Dogs in Germany can go almost anywhere, everything is clean, no ebola spreading and people find it normal. Not sure if you've really lived in Deutschland by the looks of it. Italy is the same, because many of us just spend their whole holidays there. Same thing for CH and F.

I lived in Munich and had friends work in restaurants. There is specific requirements that must be met, if a dogs are going to be allowed in the restaurant.

fiounnalbe

Being from main land europe as well, I also think that it is not health and safety reasons that Ireland does not allow dogs in places, it is because it is behind the times. There seems to be a very big thinking in this country still that dogs are creatures to be left outside the house and not brought in, if people won't even let their own dogs into their own homes, there is no chance of them being let into public buildings! Also in my experience of living in Ireland, probably because dogs are left outdoors alot of the time and not socialized as well as in other countries, they tend to be unruly and overexcitable in public, which is not really what you want in a restaurant for example!!

I too miss bringing my dogs with me everywhere I go, but I respect the Irish rules. There are so many nice things about Ireland that outweighs the con of not being able to bring my dog to dinner with me, like the amazing beaches for example, I lived in a landlocked country...the sea is the best thing in the world and it's everywhere for them to swim in!!

SingItOut

Dubl07 wrote: »

I love dogs and children but if a customer's dog is sitting beside its owner on the floor, how in the name of all that's holy could you get dog hairs in your food or drink?

Obviously hairs fall off your dog, whether it's short or long hair, of course when a door is opened the hairs are going to blow everywhere, stick to clothes and in turn stay on the table. :rolleyes: my dogs are not allowed on the table yet their hairs are still there.

Pretzill

I remember when I first moved to a rural area with a country pub myself and the OH decided to stop for a beverage to break our walk with the dogs - for some reason (I'm Irish btw) we had this romantic vision of sitting in said pub (two very well behaved border collies lying at our feet) We took our seats and were immeadiately asked to put the dogs outside - we left - the pub struggles to do business as most rural pubs do - they never got ours again.

I really don't see the problem with a dogs allowed policy and think it would be a good way to encourage custom during the day especially in areas that don't get a big footfall. There is nothing unhygenic about allowing an animal in, sure I eat near my dogs everyday - they live in the house.

It annoys me I can't bring them on public transport too. It's not like everyone is going to arrive in a pub or cafe or on a bus at the same time so that there are a herd of hairy dogs to wade through.

It's not for everyone to stop during a walk with the dog for a coffee - but it would be nice to have the option.

I think it speaks at a deeper level about Ireland's attitude to dogs -

phater phagan

I agree Pretzill.

ammollo85

Not to mention the fact that dog racing is still legal here. Probably I am bringing up the subject in the wrong country...