Was I ripped off ?

masculinist

I found a road bike at the back of my shed. Its lightweight and has a nice frame and looks good apart from a few rust spots which can be easily fixed and taped up. Both tyres were flat after a few years of sitting there.

I pump up the wheels. There is a puncture and wear in the front wheel so I brought it somewhere to be fixed.

I was charged 30 euro for a new wheel.


I cycle it out the door when the gears fail, chain falls off and is tangled up. I was told it needs a new mechanism at the back wheel for changing the gear. I wheel it back sheepishly to the store whereupon he charges me 40 euro ...

I started off thinking it was my lucky day that I had a nice bike which can be put on the road for nothing and suddenly I am in this for big money...
If I had known I might have bought a second hand working bike off an advert for less...

The girlfriend cycled it to her place. She notices the back tire is pretty worn too and needs replacing. Especially for me since I am heavier than her. So the guy at her bike shop replaced the back wheel for 25 euro and said 40 euro to change the gear mechanism at the back wheel was disgraceful.

What do you guys think ?

Valetta

masculinist wrote: »

I found a road bike at the back of my shed. Its lightweight and has a nice frame and looks good apart from a few rust spots which can be easily fixed and taped up. Both tyres were flat after a few years of sitting there.

I pump up the wheels. There is a puncture and wear in the front wheel so I brought it somewhere to be fixed.

I was charged 30 euro for a new wheel.


I cycle it out the door when the gears fail, chain falls off and is tangled up. I was told it needs a new mechanism at the back wheel for changing the gear. I wheel it back sheepishly to the store whereupon he charges me 40 euro ...

I started off thinking it was my lucky day that I had a nice bike which can be put on the road for nothing and suddenly I am in this for big money...
If I had known I might have bought a second hand working bike off an advert for less...

The girlfriend cycled it to her place. She notices the back tire is pretty worn too and needs replacing. Especially for me since I am heavier than her. So the guy at her bike shop replaced the back wheel for 25 euro and said 40 euro to change the gear mechanism at the back wheel was disgraceful.

What do you guys think ?

Did you not ask for prices first, and then make up your own mind?

masculinist

Valetta wrote: »

Did you not ask for prices first, and then make up your own mind?

I was stuck and under various pressures to get other important things done. I had gone to what I thought was a reputable store which had been around for years and years. In fact probably for the last 30 years. I was also in a jam as I was far from home, trying to wheel a bike with a flat tyre and with no lock to lock it anywhere.
The real point is the thread is was I actually ripped off like someone who knows bikes claimed I was ?

Valetta

masculinist wrote: »

I was stuck and under various pressures to get other important things done. I had gone to what I thought was a reputable store which had been around for years and years. In fact probably for the last 30 years. I was also in a jam as I was far from home, trying to wheel a bike with a flat tyre and with no lock to lock it anywhere.
The real point is the thread is was I actually ripped off like someone who knows bikes claimed I was ?

If the shop has been around for 30 years, then you weren't ripped off.

michael999999

masculinist wrote: »

I was stuck and under various pressures to get other important things done. I had gone to what I thought was a reputable store which had been around for years and years. In fact probably for the last 30 years. I was also in a jam as I was far from home, trying to wheel a bike with a flat tyre and with no lock to lock it anywhere.
The real point is the thread is was I actually ripped off like someone who knows bikes wclaimed I was ?

Did you cycle the bike to the shop on two flat tyres?

If the shop was there 30 years, its hard to imagine there ripping customers off!

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

masculinist wrote: »

I found a road bike at the back of my shed. Its lightweight and has a nice frame and looks good apart from a few rust spots which can be easily fixed and taped up. Both tyres were flat after a few years of sitting there.

I pump up the wheels. There is a puncture and wear in the front wheel so I brought it somewhere to be fixed.

I was charged 30 euro for a new wheel.


I cycle it out the door when the gears fail, chain falls off and is tangled up. I was told it needs a new mechanism at the back wheel for changing the gear. I wheel it back sheepishly to the store whereupon he charges me 40 euro ...

I started off thinking it was my lucky day that I had a nice bike which can be put on the road for nothing and suddenly I am in this for big money...
If I had known I might have bought a second hand working bike off an advert for less...

The girlfriend cycled it to her place. She notices the back tire is pretty worn too and needs replacing. Especially for me since I am heavier than her. So the guy at her bike shop replaced the back wheel for 25 euro and said 40 euro to change the gear mechanism at the back wheel was disgraceful.

What do you guys think ?

Don't fully understand the part in bold. Did you move into a new house or did somebody dump the bike there?

If you got a wheel for that price you got a savage deal :P I think you mean tyre though? If so I still think it's a good deal, especially if it includes labour. It depends on the make and model of the hardware really.

I think by mechanism at the back wheel you might mean cassette?

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ie/en/cassettes/road-cassettes

You can see there that they can be quite expensive. I imagine the one you got is a standard model, still not a bad price including labour.

The derailleurs below will also give you an idea of costs. Take into account that you went into a brick and mortar shop and that will generally be more expensive.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ie/en/derailleurs?f=2259

I know it might seem like a lot of money when it all ads up, but it would be at the lower end of the scale I believe.

I don't think you were ripped off but I think you could of got it cheaper. I upgraded 6 componants on my bike, I shopped around and got some good deals and saved quite a lot of money compared to buying them in the shop.

Hope this helps.

masculinist

Valetta wrote: »

If the shop has been around for 30 years, then you weren't ripped off.

Maybe thats how they managed to stay in business

michael999999 wrote: »

Did you cycle the bike to the shop on two flat tyres?

No I was dropped off with the bike in the back of a car. I had assumed I would sort out a simple flat tyre problem and then cycle home. Silly me. I have no issues admitting I do stupid things sometimes. I'm not here to be an invincible keyboard warrior.

michael999999 wrote: »

If the shop was there 30 years, its hard to imagine there ripping customers off!

Now you understand and hopefully will convince any doubters why I just paid because I wanted to cycle home and go about my business. They had been there for a long time.

masculinist

Kenna Huge Museum wrote: »

Don't fully understand the part in bold. Did you move into a new house or did somebody dump the bike there?

If you got a wheel for that price you got a savage deal :P I think you mean tyre though? If so I still think it's a good deal, especially if it includes labour. It depends on the make and model of the hardware really.

I think by mechanism at the back wheel you might mean cassette?

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ie/en/cassettes/road-cassettes

You can see there that they can be quite expensive. I imagine the one you got is a standard model, still not a bad price including labour.

The derailleurs below will also give you an idea of costs. Take into account that you went into a brick and mortar shop and that will generally be more expensive.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ie/en/derailleurs?f=2259

I know it might seem like a lot of money when it all ads up, but it would be at the lower end of the scale I believe.

I don't think you were ripped off but I think you could of got it cheaper. I upgraded 6 componants on my bike, I shopped around and got some good deals and saved quite a lot of money compared to buying them in the shop.

Hope this helps.

hey . It appears that it was a ''derailleur'' which was replaced.

It was a tyre which was replaced, not a wheel.

The thread was prompted by the other cycle shop owner claiming I had been ripped off. Its good to talk about these things isnt it ? I dont want to carry the secret pain of feeling ripped off by myself . At the very least I want to learn something from the experience.
The second guy did sell a new back tyre plus new innertube for 25 euro whereas the first guy had charged 30 euro for a new front tyre with new innertube

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

masculinist wrote: »

Maybe thats how they managed to stay in business

No I was dropped off with the bike in the back of a car. I had assumed I would sort out a simple flat tyre problem and then cycle home. Silly me. I have no issues admitting I do stupid things sometimes. I'm not here to be an invincible keyboard warrior.

Now you understand and hopefully will convince any doubters why I just paid because I wanted to cycle home and go about my business. They had been there for a long time.

A normal puncture repair would cost about 10 - 12 euro. You can buy tubes for a couple of euro online if you buy in bulk.

If the bike was lying up for a long time it would be in a bad way. Especially if a coat of oil wasn't put on it every so often.

I have a bike out my back belonging to my dad. It's been there for about 2 years. The tyres are horribly worn, cracked with the cold and heat. It would be dangerous to cycle on them to be honest.

enricoh

so theres a fiver difference between two shops for a tyre n tube- hardly rip off stuff.
if that causes u that much pain get a couple of tubes in aldi next time there on n save a heart attack

masculinist

enricoh wrote: »

so theres a fiver difference between two shops for a tyre n tube- hardly rip off stuff.

If I had thought about it more deeply and known in advance, I would not have invested 70 euro in this bicycle. However I was already in the game at that stage for 30 euro thanks to the wheel replacement.
After he had already charged me 5 euro more than the second shop for a tyre change, apparently according to the second store owner he had ripped me off on the second problem - the derailleur by charging 40 euro.
I find a random question in a busy and assumedly knowledgeable forum to be a lot more efficient than walking from bike shop to bike shop throughout the country with a questionnaire in order to determine the credibility of that assertion.

enricoh wrote: »

if that causes u that much pain get a couple of tubes in aldi next time there on n save a heart attack

what pain ? what heart attack? what the hell are you talking about ? I am asking a question in a forum which depends upon contributors. To re-state the obvious for those who don't get it; it got back to me from another shop that I was possibly ripped off. Instead of standing outside the store in question with a picket sign, I think a random question in a busy and assumedly knowledgeable forum has to be a lot more efficient than walking from bike shop to bike shop throughout the country with a questionnaire in order to determine the credibility of that assertion.

beauf

masculinist wrote: »

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What do you guys think ?

You need to learn how to get a quotation and make a financial decision based on it.

If you don't know about something, you can't make a judgement call, about it until you learn about it.

So saying something is a rip off is impossible. You've not given enough information.

An old bike is often not a financial wise thing to do. You might do it because you like the bike, you like recycling, or maybe its a good bike. But it might not be a financially wise thing to do. Some times its a 50:50 decision.

We can't read the bike shops mind or yours. You've not spent a lot of money yet. Maybe take a step back and post a photo of the bike and people can advise you about the bike.

masculinist

Kenna Huge Museum wrote: »

A normal puncture repair would cost about 10 - 12 euro.

between two stores was a price difference of 5 euro to 12 euro, over a 100% difference

beauf

There can be 200% difference in a packet of biscuits between two shops. What does that prove?

beauf

Maybe one tube is a cheaper one

Hi Ho

30 quid for a new wheel, fitting included, sounds ok to me. Who knows about the gears without seeing it and more detail?

masculinist

Hi Ho wrote: »

30 quid for a new wheel, fitting included, sounds ok to me. Who knows about the gears without seeing it and more detail?

I'll take a photo in daylight hours when I am around it. The bicycle is stored at my girlfriends place currently.

masculinist

beauf wrote: »

Maybe one tube is a cheaper one

I wasnt given the option of a cheaper tube though. what does that prove ?

Darkglasses

None of it sounds like a rip off to me. 70 euro for a new tyre, rear derailleur and labour?

I'm not trying to have a go or anything, but let's be fair, you don't seem to know a lot about bike components and mechanics. Not all tyres (or derailleurs) are created equal - just because a tyre is more expensive doesn't mean it's bad value. I wouldn't be so quick to think rip-off when you don't know the full story. You also haven't said the make and model of either component - tyres can cost anywhere from 7 euro to 50-60 euro, or even more.

I'd suggest calling up shops in advance if you're looking for the cheapest. Further investigation is needed to find actual value.

masculinist

beauf wrote: »

You need to learn how to get a quotation and make a financial decision based on it.

If you don't know about something, you can't make a judgement call, about it until you learn about it.

So saying something is a rip off is impossible. You've not given enough information.

Thanks for the advice. I was unable to get a quotation from anywhere else at the time. After I paid 30 for the front tyre, the attitude was that he would do me a favor by charging me 40 euro for a derailleur at the back.
As I said in the OP and posts subsequently , I was stuck for time with a broken bicycle and needed to sort my business out for the day far from home or any place to store the bike.

Rip off was the words which came back to me. I think maybe this word emotionally charged the thread a wee bit more than I would have liked.

Perhaps I should have asked instead : 'did I get a good deal or a bad one?'

In fact in retrospect I would have been happier to frame the thread on that basis instead.

beauf wrote: »

An old bike is often not a financial wise thing to do. You might do it because you like the bike, you like recycling, or maybe its a good bike. But it might not be a financially wise thing to do. Some times its a 50:50 decision.

We can't read the bike shops mind or yours. You've not spent a lot of money yet. Maybe take a step back and post a photo of the bike and people can advise you about the bike.

I like the bike. Its a nice lightweight frame. It cycles really well now.

masculinist

Darkglasses wrote: »

None of it sounds like a rip off to me. 70 euro for a new tyre, rear derailleur and labour?

I'm not trying to have a go or anything, but let's be fair, you don't seem to know a lot about bike components and mechanics. Not all tyres (or derailleurs) are created equal - just because a tyre is more expensive doesn't mean it's bad value. I wouldn't be so quick to think rip-off when you don't know the full story. You also haven't said the make and model of either component - tyres can cost anywhere from 7 euro to 50-60 euro, or even more.

I'd suggest calling up shops in advance if you're looking for the cheapest. Further investigation is needed to find actual value.

Fair enough. Like I said in the post previous to this one, I would have been happier perhaps not to use the words ''rip off''' but instead ask if it was a good or bad deal. The information filtering back from the second store which my girlfriend had visited had the emotionally charged words ''rip off''

michael999999

masculinist wrote: »

Thanks for the advice. I was unable to get a quotation from anywhere else at the time. After I paid 30 for the front tyre, the attitude was that he would do me a favor by charging me 40 euro for a derailleur at the back.
As I said in the OP and posts subsequently , I was stuck for time with a broken bicycle and needed to sort my business out for the day far from home or any place to store the bike.
Did
Rip off was the words which came back to me. I think maybe this word emotionally charged the thread a wee bit more than I would have liked.

Perhaps I should have asked instead : 'did I get a good deal or a bad one?'

In fact in retrospect I would have been happier to frame the thread on that basis instead.




I like the bike. Its a nice lightweight frame. It cycles really well now.

So you have a bike that cycles really well now for €70 euro.

masculinist

michael999999 wrote: »

So you have a bike that cycles really well now for €70 euro.

Thats one good thing to come out of this . I wasn't prepared to invest 70 euro in it from the start though as I would have thought I cant resell it for the same amount plus I probably could have found a working bicycle for less time, money and trouble on a small advert somewhere.

G2ECE

Short answer, no you weren't ripped off. Basic tyre and tube cost 10 to 20 notes, most basic of derailers cost 25. Put labour on that and it seems fair even assuming you were given the cheapest parts possible.

masculinist

G2ECE wrote: »

Short answer, no you weren't ripped off. Basic tyre and tube cost 10 to 20 notes, most basic of derailers cost 25. Put labour on that and it seems fair even assuming you were given the cheapest parts possible.

My girlfriend just arrived and told me the guy at the second store who had seen the bike because he changed the back tyre for 25 euro [so we can compare like with like] told her the derailleur was 25 euro from him at most including labour. But at the first store I was charged 40 euro.

The Tyre plus tube was 5 euro cheaper, 25 at the second store compared to 30. So from that perspective if you compare one store with another for basically a job which took 15 minutes in all and which cost 70 euro at the first store would have cost me 50 euro at the second.

At least perhaps people can agree that the second store is significantly cheaper and better value than the first.

Hi Ho

masculinist wrote: »

My girlfriend just arrived and told me the guy at the second store who had seen the bike because he changed the back tyre for 25 euro [so we can compare like with like] told her the derailleur was 25 euro from him at most including labour. But at the first store I was charged 40 euro.

The Tyre plus tube was 5 euro cheaper, 25 at the second store compared to 30. So from that perspective if you compare one store with another for basically a job which took 15 minutes in all and which cost 70 euro at the first store would have cost me 50 euro at the second.

At least perhaps people can agree that the second store is significantly cheaper and better value than the first.

In 15 minutes he fitted a new front wheel, broke the chain and fitted a new rear mech, re-fitted the chain,fine-tuned the gears, and probably gave the whole thing the once over. And was there a tyre and tube change included somewhere as well. Maybe I have some of the detail wrong but 15 min. sound a bit of an underestimation I think.

jamesd

Not ripped off - need to shop around to get the best deal which you didn't or couldn't.

dazed+confused

If I found a bike and then got it on the road for less than €100 I'd be chuffed.

masculinist

Hi Ho wrote: »

In 15 minutes he fitted a new front wheel, broke the chain and fitted a new rear mech, re-fitted the chain,fine-tuned the gears, and probably gave the whole thing the once over. And was there a tyre and tube change included somewhere as well. Maybe I have some of the detail wrong but 15 min. sound a bit of an underestimation I think.

Like I said: At least perhaps people can agree that the second store is significantly cheaper and better value than the first.

dazed+confused wrote: »

If I found a bike and then got it on the road for less than €100 I'd be chuffed.

Well I found cheaper bicycles in the past which worked just fine in small adverts e.g clearance. Not stolen bicycles either. I wont deal with someone dodgy. I had a great bicycle for 30 euro before from someone clearing out a store in Temple Bar. it only needed its saddle fixing.

beauf

Hi Ho wrote: »

In 15 minutes he fitted a new front wheel, broke the chain and fitted a new rear mech, re-fitted the chain,fine-tuned the gears, and probably gave the whole thing the once over. And was there a tyre and tube change included somewhere as well. Maybe I have some of the detail wrong but 15 min. sound a bit of an underestimation I think.

In many shops you'd have had to wait a week. Would that have been better?

I dunno what you are looking for.

bmwguy

Do you feel you get ripped off often? To me that sounds like a bit of a result to get a good bike going for 70 euro. I have an entry level road bike, Giant Defy 4 which cost 10 times that. If I got a few bits changed and bike serviced I would not think anyone was ripping me off at 70 euro. I bought 2 new tyres a while back can't remember what they cost but I'd say they were at least that for the pair. Just because it was cheaper elsewhere does not make it a rip off. Sounds like buyers remorse

Hi Ho

beauf wrote: »

In many shops you'd have had to wait a week. Would that have been better?

I dunno what you are looking for.

I probably didn't word that well. What I'm saying is that the poster said the shop did all that work in 15 min. I think that is an underestimation of the time it took.

masculinist

bmwguy wrote: »

Do you feel you get ripped off often?

I was not keeping a record.

I have gained a lot of practical information from this thread and am thankful that this forum appears to be busier than I expected but some of you need to read the whole thread before jumping in with silly emotion based questions. Did I not much earlier explain that I half regretted the usage of the words ''rip off'' because I wanted to spare the emotions of some over sensitive readers ? And that the words ''rip off'' were not my own words but merely conveying what had been conveyed to me by somebody else from the second store concerning the first ? I am not sure what you expect to gain by introducing this concept of buyers remorse. Surely posting in this forum and hence contributing to its traffic is a very efficient way of learning about the cost and suitability of things concerning bicycles ?

masculinist

bmwguy wrote: »

70 euro. I bought 2 new tyres a while back can't remember what they cost but I'd say they were at least that for the pair.

I probably have a ''banger'' , cheapskate type bicycle compared to yours. I am not walking into the Hilton and demanding champagne for a euro. This is strictly budget territory. for my tyres , they cost 30 euro at store 1 and 25 euro at store 2. 55 euro. Whats wrong with shopping around ? It still sounds cheaper than the deal you got. Apparently I got an even worse deal at store 1 for the derailer ... 40 euro at store 1 when store 2 would have charged me 25 euro including all labour.

beauf

Is not shopping around if you do it afterwards and if you don't know what exactly your comparing. There may be a big difference between two tubes or tyres of the same price.

There's a difference between knowing the price of something and value of it.

Wishbone Ash

masculinist wrote: »

...for my tyres , they cost 30 euro at store 1 and 25 euro at store 2. 55 euro. Whats wrong with shopping around ? It still sounds cheaper than the deal you got. Apparently I got an even worse deal at store 1 for the derailer ... 40 euro at store 1 when store 2 would have charged me 25 euro including all labour.

Are you comparing like with like? Were the tyres and dérailleur the same brand? If not, you can't really compare.

masculinist

beauf wrote: »

Is not shopping around if you do it afterwards .

True but no harm in realizing I have something to learn and hence asking for advice here in a friendly way

beauf wrote: »

There may be a big difference between two tubes or tyres of the same price.
There's a difference between knowing the price of something and value of it.

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Are you comparing like with like? Were the tyres and dérailleur the same brand? If not, you can't really compare.

I agree however the second store which also was around for a long time was apparently comparing like with like. Otherwise why would they say what was said ? I did mention to the store owner when he quoted me 40 euro for the derailer that money was tight for me at the time. So I presume this was the cheapest he would fix onto my cheapskate 'banger' standard bicycle - the cheapest derailer he had...

codie

If anything at least you know now what shop to visit the next time you need anything done to your bike.

masculinist

codie wrote: »

If anything at least you know now what shop to visit the next time you need anything done to your bike.

For sure. I will support them as much as I can in future.

easygoing39

you sound like someone who hasn't a clue about the price of parts or the price of labour!! You got a very cheap price!!The saddle on my bike cost more than all the parts you got fitted!!

masculinist

easygoing39 wrote: »

you sound like someone who hasn't a clue about the price of parts or the price of labour!! You got a very cheap price!!The saddle on my bike cost more than all the parts you got fitted!!

The salient fact is there was a cheaper price than what I got so how did I get a cheap price if even the second bike store says I got a bad deal ? How is it clueless to discuss this ? I think it is very responsible in fact. No matter what my 'sins' or errors might have been in the past I am still improving my game here.

Did you buy your bicycle new ? Are you budget conscious like me ? I am budget conscious about most things but I never ever hid , not once my ignorance concerning the price of bike parts and labour. I was up front with everyone from the start.

beauf

masculinist wrote: »

T...Otherwise why would they say what was said ? ......

Why would one business try to undercut another business....seriously?

masculinist

beauf wrote: »

Why would one business try to undercut another business....seriously?

Are you seriously asking why would one business compete with another ? Seriously dude ?
Those businesses are literally on the other side of Dublin from one another, one Northside and the other Southside and both well established and have no real need to see one another as competitors however as a customer I appreciate a business which gives me a better deal.

beauf

masculinist wrote: »

The salient fact is there was a cheaper price than what I got so how did I get a cheap price if even the second bike store says I got a bad deal ? How is it clueless to discuss this ? I think it is very responsible in fact. No matter what my 'sins' or errors might have been in the past I am still improving my game here....

Not really. You're comparing two things that you are guessing are the same. You don't really know if they are the same at all.

You've basically asked how long is a piece of string, then when told, no one can answer that, you've declared you're self as being correct, because you think you are right.

I've no idea if you are right or not. You might simply be paying extra for the luxury of not doing research, and the 1st shop being a more convenient location when you are in a hurry. Thats how shops like Spar can make money by being more expensive, but just closer to you.

This really is nothing to do with cycling. its about buying any type of goods or services.

RomanGod

Got similar treatment at the bicycle shop in the Omni Shopping Centre. Wouldn't be surprised if that's the one in question in the OP

endacl

You weren't ripped off. You got stuff at the price stuff costs. None of which was compulsory.

Think about it.

masculinist

RomanGod wrote: »

Got similar treatment at the bicycle shop in the Omni Shopping Centre. Wouldn't be surprised if that's the one in question in the OP

I am not going to mention specific businesses publicly. That was never my intention. The thread was all about educating myself, nothing more. Its normal to recommend to friends etc a store you think is better than another one but I am not here for that either. However that store is not one I have ever been to. In fact, the cheaper store for me was one on the Northside.

beauf

masculinist wrote: »

Are you seriously asking why would one business compete with another ? Seriously dude ?
Those businesses are literally on the other side of Dublin from one another, one Northside and the other Southside and both well established and have no real need to see one another as competitors however as a customer I appreciate a business which gives me a better deal.

For the love of mike...My point was they are competitors. Of course they are. You're a customer. You've gone into both. Dublin is not a big place.

Of course theres the whole Northside vs Southside thing now that you added that new bit of information.

masculinist

endacl wrote: »

You weren't ripped off. You got stuff at the price stuff costs. None of which was compulsory.

Think about it.

How much per hour does a bicycle mechanic charge ?

masculinist

beauf wrote: »

For the love of mike...My point was they are competitors. Of course they are. You're a customer. You've gone into both. Dublin is not a big place.

I actually didn't go into both. My girlfriend went into the Northside store and I went into the Southside store. These are stores which serve local people. Its not like buying a car or some big ticket item. It was a second hand or third hand boneshaker basically.

beauf wrote: »

Of course theres the whole Northside vs Southside thing now that you added that new bit of information.

How does that change everything ? My family tree is split between both. I can get a cup of tea on both sides of the liffey for free if I want.

beauf

masculinist wrote: »

How much per hour does a bicycle mechanic charge ?

That might depend on how much rent they pay. Their experience, if you are a regular.