ivans of caherdavin

Munsterbhoy

Ivans re opening soon as deli cafe bakery and some grocery, strange that their keeping the name with all the hassle that closing down caused . Wonder will the local people give them any business.

CrazyChick18

Post office is gone from there now so they must be expanding in there as well.

Comhrá

Munsterbhoy wrote: »

strange that their keeping the name with all the hassle that closing down caused . Wonder will the local people give them any business.

Actually I'm glad they're keeping the name. The place has an identity and to be honest, most locals would continue to refer to it as 'Ivan's anyway. Nice to have an air of familiarity to the new venture even if under new management.

Will the local people support it? If the product is good and the price is right then, yes, they will.

DoYouEvenLift

If anyone is in contact with the owners or has the power to influence them, please get them to bake fresh doughnuts with different toppings just like American style doughnut shops do, Limerick lacks decent options for this lol

xxtippchickxx

i wonder whos opening it up?

finbarrk

They are dead right to keep the name. It was there for long enough.

tipptom

Wonder would they have to have permission from the former owners to use the name?

testicle

tipptom wrote: »

Wonder would they have to have permission from the former owners to use the name?

Why would they even need it?

gryff

Maybe they could use the name the shop had before it was Ivans....'Frankies'

DoYouEvenLift

testicle wrote: »

Why would they even need it?

Probably copyrighted

tipptom

testicle wrote: »

Why would they even need it?

Maybe Ivan had intended opening a chain of them,try opening a shop called Bill & Bens and find out how popular you are with lawyers who could tell you why you would need it.

Henry Ford III

The new owners are connected to BB's Coffee I'm told.

hobie14

If I was ever in town I would pick up a lunch on the way home so Ivan's closing was a real pain for me ......

I rem going into the far car park and being surprised to see a single car parked and that was clamped!!!! ( never seen that before) ...... I was going to mention to the guy's that it seemed a bit cruel but when I walked up to the shop I read the sad notice posted on all the doors ..... we are closed ......

Sure hope the new guys do meals ..... the Bakery and meals made Ivan's famous .......

Berty

I always got a Christmas cake and cheesecake there as well. The alternatives weren't the same at christmas.

He'd be out in the car park at Christmas fighting to keep order. Place was bedlam.

Reminds me of auld ones roaring at staff who would only sell the a Christmas log as the round Christmas cakes were only for those who booked them. One lady said "fine I'll take two logs to make up it" and was told no "one per customer" and lost her ****e.

Good times.

Parchment

the black forest gateau was worth murdering for. i actually miss it like a loved family member.

Berty

Parchment wrote: »

the black forest gateau was worth murdering for. i actually miss it like a loved family member.

Yep any other day of the week it would be a Black Forest gateaux but at Christmas they renamed it because they stick a plastic pin in it. Lol

thesimpsons

Henry Ford III wrote: »

The new owners are connected to BB's Coffee I'm told.

heard it was Zest !

Comhrá

Parchment wrote: »

the black forest gateau was worth murdering for. i actually miss it like a loved family member.

+1 Well, my blood sugar and weight have both reduced since Ivan's closed.

Still, I miss that shop. It was unique and a landmark store this end of town. Hope the new incarnation is as good.

I remember someone from my family got a cake there in the late 90's or early 00's with a photo of whoever the cake was for done in icing on it (christening, 18th, 21st, 30th, anniversary, whatever). I was only a kid and it was the most amazing thing I'd ever seen at the time

EDIBLE PHOTOS!! :eek:

Polyphonic ringtones came along shortly afterwards and my life changed completely :pac:

rok

I heard this week that the crowd running Ristorante Del Arte in the Crescent Shopping Centre are taking over Ivan's, dunno if it's gonna be another Del Arte or with other food services too.

It'd be great if they kept the name, Ivan's is a landmark on what was the main road into the city for years - unreal the amount of people outside of Limerick that know of it.

Is the official name for that crossroads/traffic lights "Caherdavin cross"?

Smacs89

rok wrote: »

Is the official name for that crossroads/traffic lights "Caherdavin cross"?

Ivans Cross afaik

Comhrá

I think it's official name is Caherdavin Cross, at least if Google is to be believed

Champ

Sign up on the door says it's going to be a cafe and bakery.

I guess that's the business to go for especially since Ivans was known for its cakes and well when you're next to Dunnes, LIDL etc you really can't compete in the other stuff that the old Ivans was doing.

hobie14

Champ wrote: »

Sign up on the door says it's going to be a cafe and bakery.

I guess that's the business to go for especially since Ivans was known for its cakes and well when you're next to Dunnes, LIDL etc you really can't compete in the other stuff that the old Ivans was doing.

Do you think "Café and Bakery" stores do Take away meals ? ......

If not my life is going to be ruined ! ......

Alltherage

If you order a No. 5 and it turns out to be a Lemon cheese cake would that be so bad?

donutheadhomer

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

If anyone is in contact with the owners or has the power to influence them, please get them to bake fresh doughnuts with different toppings just like American style doughnut shops do, Limerick lacks decent options for this lol

Yes I second that. Expanded Tim hortons is much much needed.

RVN10

Doesnt sound like all the staff will be going back so those cakes may not be the same as they once were Shame really

Champ

Well there's only so many ways you can make a cake. Their strawberry cheesecake was one of my favourites alongside their black forests.

Still it's something if some of the original staff will be retained?

Comhrá

Champ wrote: »

Their strawberry cheesecake was one of my favourites alongside their black forests.

Still it's something if some of the original staff will be retained?

+1. I've lost about three kilos weight since Ivan's closed. I see dietary challenges ahead if the new operators are able to do the deli as good as previously.

hobie14

Told yesterday I can forget Roast Beef ..... pork ..... lamb etc etc meals from the new operation ........

An alternative to Ivans that do great take away meals was mentioned and it's located between Raheen hospital and the South Court hotel ...... I can't place it ..... anyone know who it might be? ........

Mc Love

It's probably Centra Raheen just by the south court

thesimpsons

would have thought the place fairly saturated with Centra type shops - Dunnes, Lidl, Tesco, whatever that in Caherdvin is.

Champ

hobie14 wrote:

Told yesterday I can forget Roast Beef ..... pork ..... lamb etc etc meals from the new operation ........

Any more details you can share regarding the new operation?:)

thesimpsons wrote:

would have thought the place fairly saturated with Centra type shops - Dunnes, Lidl, Tesco

I suspect he wants something other than the normal convenient deli or hot bar menu of rolls, fried chicken etc...

Though at times I myself have picked up a chicken roll from the Centra on the opposite side of the road and do enjoy the potato wedges and southern fried drumsticks from the Dunnes hot bar in the Jetland.

mgbgt1978

rok wrote: »

I heard this week that the crowd running Ristorante Del Arte in the Crescent Shopping Centre are taking over Ivan's, dunno if it's gonna be another Del Arte or with other food services too.

It'd be great if they kept the name, Ivan's is a landmark on what was the main road into the city for years - unreal the amount of people outside of Limerick that know of it.

Is the official name for that crossroads/traffic lights "Caherdavin cross"?

Del Arte have the same office address as BB's (Summer st, beside the Medical Centre), so I'd guess it could probably be another BB's

RVN10

This does sound like its not going to do well imo but i stand corrected , theres a bbs in the Jetland and then there is the new cafe up where mr.macs once was.

Munsterbhoy

I see building work has resumed after a bit of a delay and signs up on the windows say its re opening as bakery deli cafe as earlier stated. Really hope it works out this time.

hobie14

What a disaster ..... as an Ivan's customer for years I can't see the new operation providing anything we lost the day Ivan had to lock the doors .....

Insect Overlord

That's a very pessimistic response. Can't say I agree with you, and I did a fair chunk of shopping there over the years as well.

Berty

hobie14 wrote: »

What a disaster ..... as an Ivan's customer for years I can't see the new operation providing anything we lost the day Ivan had to lock the doors .....

Isn't that the point though? Ivans couldn't make the figures work with what he was providing so why would somebody come along and just replicate it?

People didn't think Javinos, where Macs O/L was, would work and they proved people wrong. Hood and Ladder will open in Corbally.

Coffee shops seem to work. Ivan's didn't overall but at least they're offering a Bakery which was the only reason I ever went there.

digzy

Beer Baron wrote: »

Isn't that the point though? Ivans couldn't make the figures work with what he was providing

How do you know that? Tbf there is a lot more to Ivan than just Ivan's !
He was loaded, lost a pile, made a load back and obviously lost it again. His house is for sale a good while now.

Berty

digzy wrote: »

How do you know that? Tbf there is a lot more to Ivan than just Ivan's !

We're discussing Ivans Shop that closed though not Ivans and his other businesses/ventures.(I don't know of them)

Limerick Leader wrote:

Staff were called in last night and told by owner Ivan Cremin that due to tough trading conditions, the business would close.

He was on a busy junction with competition from Tesco, Dunnes and Lidl.

Limerick Leader Quoting wrote:

Unfortunately after 38 years of business, we have been forced to close Ivan’s shop. I would like to take this opportunity to acknowledge you all for your support and continued loyalty in these hard economic times over the last few years.”

Iranoutofideas

The days of the independent corner shop are over. They simply can't compete with Lidl/Aldi/SuperValue/Dunnes/Tesco or the Mace/Spar type convenience stores.

The only place they will eventually be found is in the middle of nowhere where the likes of above are too far away to affect them. Which in itself is increasingly unlikely.

Jofspring

Beer Baron wrote: »

Isn't that the point though? Ivans couldn't make the figures work with what he was providing so why would somebody come along and just replicate it?

People didn't think Javinos, where Macs O/L was, would work and they proved people wrong. Hood and Ladder will open in Corbally.

Coffee shops seem to work. Ivan's didn't overall but at least they're offering a Bakery which was the only reason I ever went there.

Hard to know how Javinos is actually doing. It seems busy when open but it's hours are incredibly inconsistent. Sometimes the restaurant part is open and sometimes closed. I have gone there to the cafe on three occasions and it has been closed. Twice completely and the 3rd time they were closing up as I arrived to the door. All during the middle of the day. I have seen it closed on a Sunday one week and open the next. Very strange. Not sure if they are closing cause they are quiet some days or so they run out of supplies.

lasno

Javinos hours Monday-Saturday 9am to 5.30pm. Sunday 10am to 4pm. Closed bank holidays. They no longer open evenings.
I have never seen them close at midday.

Jofspring

lasno wrote: »

Javinos hours Monday-Saturday 9am to 5.30pm. Sunday 10am to 4pm. Closed bank holidays. They no longer open evenings.
I have never seen them close at midday.

One was a Saturday before a munster match. It was just before 4 O clock and they turned me away saying they were closed and would be back open "next week", was pretty vague.

Ya the evenings didn't seem to last long but there again they had down that they would be open till 9:30 but were closed earlier than that on a few occassions. Maybe the evening openings didn't take off because of the inconsistencies in the hours?

Limerick Dude

Jofspring wrote: »

One was a Saturday before a munster match. It was just before 4 O clock and they turned me away saying they were closed and would be back open "next week", was pretty vague.

Ya the evenings didn't seem to last long but there again they had down that they would be open till 9:30 but were closed earlier than that on a few occassions. Maybe the evening openings didn't take off because of the inconsistencies in the hours?

I know last weekend my Uncle and Aunt went into this place and ordered some coffees and a slice apple crumble or something similar. Anyway, this was approximately 10-15 minutes before closing time and they were told that they are closed and they had to leave. There were customers already sitting in the place eating and drinking.

My uncle at the time was dressed in a pair of tracksuit bottoms as he was doing work around the house that day. He (and I) think this was probably the reason for them refusing his order.

I won't be going there anyway and even if the whole tracksuit thing wasn't the reason, refusing a customer a service during opening hours for no good reason is ridiculous.

hagoonabear

I loved their coffee cake, absolutely adored it. if anyone knows the recipe or I'd any place in limerick sells similar

hobie14

Ivan's what do I miss ......

Best take away meals anywhere ..... real home cooked style

Best Cake service ..... any size .... any design .... and a price to suit you

best breakfast rolls ..... or if you prefer a breakfast plate ...... anything you want

Pastry and regular cakes ...... bread etc

I rem when Ivan's closed it hit National TV news big time ..... why? ..... because half the $$$$ country knew Ivan's and regretted it closing ......

Anyway, back to Cafe's ....... it would be nice if it was a Biker's Cafe ...... would need lots of room for motor Bikes ..... maybe they could buy the house next door and turn it into a Bike parking area ......

Champ

A lot of activity outside the place today with workers doing stuff on the exterior.

The doors were actually opened and they seem to be starting on getting the place in order I think...? (didn't stop to stare inside)

Swiper the fox

They are holding onto the Ivan's name??
When I moved to Limerick first in 2002 Ivan's was a great spot, helped that I lived on the NCR at that time and it was quite local. As the years went on though it didn't have it's unique appeal, it's deli was very average and the cakes were overpriced for what they were, this was almost acceptable though because there was no other bakery in Limerick doing decent fresh cakes, still isn't to be honest.
The Sunday lunch was good enough but Bobby Byrnes does better one these days.
Staff tended to be of the miserable variety quite a lot of the time

Tefral

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