Can somebody please help me! (Trying to rent with dog)

snyperwolf

Hi guys,

Can anyone give me any advice on what to do. I'm DESPERATE to move to the Cork city area. I currently rent in mallow (myself, boyfriend, a friend, and a dog.) It's really hard at the moment to get a propety in Cork. Like 8/9 people are viewing properties at a time. I went to 2 letting agents in the city today and they were all very interested/had loads to show me, as the three of us have well paying secure jobs and many references between us. BUT the minute I mentioned the dog it was 'no sorry nothing'.

I rang around a few places asking had they any dog friendly properties and got 'NO' straight away. It seems people are so desperate to rent places, they don't need to have someone with a dog in their property. The dog is 13 years old, really quiet, well behaved old thing. NEVER goes toilet in the house. My boyfriends had her since he was 12. I'm devastated and stressed out.

My boyfriend said to say nothing about the dog, but I know that might just get us in a lot of trouble down the line. Any advice or help guys? I cannot commute from mallow to the city anymore, I'm cracking up.

Thanks.

pwurple

The dog may be the best in the world, but it's coming up to being a fairly elderly dog at this stage. Can you give the dog to someone (your boyfriend's parents or siblings for example)?

If you rent with a dog in the house when the landlord has said no pets, say goodbye to your deposit I'm afraid. I had a tenant who tried to hide a dog from me. The first inspection I could smell it, so I asked them to leave as they were breaking the terms of the lease. It cost me a carpet and a few sets of dog-smelling curtains.... cost them the full deposit (which didn't even cover the replacements. 3 full steam cleans couldn't get the dog hair out of the carpet, so we had to bin it).

The only people I know who lease to dog-owners are their own family members.

Frog Song

We were in the same position. No one wanted anyone with a dog. I understand their point of view but not everyone with a dog destroys a house, I have friends that will never rent to families again because the kids wrecked their property! Anyway in the end we had to just not mention the dog. It was the only way we could get somewhere. Some Landlords found out or we told them after a few months and when they saw how immaculate the house was they had no issue with it. I think Landlords fear the worst, the dog will pee everywhere, dig up the garden, bark all day annoying the neighbours etc. if your dog does none of the above then my only advice is don't mention the dog unfortunately, it's all we could do. I know it isn't right and you could get in trouble but from our experience it worked out okay. Not saying you'll be so lucky, it's still a risk to take.

I know the stress of it, our only other option was not keeping our dog (was never going to happen!) so that's what we went with. Best of luck!

snyperwolf

pwurple wrote: »

The dog may be the best in the world, but it's coming up to being a fairly elderly dog at this stage. Can you give the dog to someone (your boyfriend's parents or siblings for example)?

If you rent with a dog in the house when the landlord has said no pets, say goodbye to your deposit I'm afraid. I had a tenant who tried to hide a dog from me. The first inspection I could smell it, so I asked them to leave as they were breaking the terms of the lease. It cost me a carpet and a few sets of dog-smelling curtains.... cost them the full deposit (which didn't even cover the replacements. 3 full steam cleans couldn't get the dog hair out of the carpet, so we had to bin it).

The only people I know who lease to dog-owners are their own family members.

Yes you see you're a perfect example. A lot of landlords have only had bad experience with dogs. It's not really an option to pass the dog off on someone else. I'm not the type of person who just treats a dog like an inconvenience to just throw away. I'm committed to my dog. I'm not sure what kind of dog they had in your property, but my house doesn't smell like dog at the moment, and our curtains certainly don't stink of dog!!

snyperwolf

Frog Song wrote: »

We were in the same position. No one wanted anyone with a dog. I understand their point of view but not everyone with a dog destroys a house, I have friends that will never rent to families again because the kids wrecked their property! Anyway in the end we had to just not mention the dog. It was the only way we could get somewhere. Some Landlords found out or we told them after a few months and when they saw how immaculate the house was they had no issue with it. I think Landlords fear the worst, the dog will pee everywhere, dig up the garden, bark all day annoying the neighbours etc. if your dog does none of the above then my only advice is don't mention the dog unfortunately, it's all we could do. I know it isn't right and you could get in trouble but from our experience it worked out okay. Not saying you'll be so lucky, it's still a risk to take.

I know the stress of it, our only other option was not keeping our dog (was never going to happen!) so that's what we went with. Best of luck!

Yeah man, my boyfriend is raging at me for mentioning the dog at all to the letting agents. We didn't tell our current landlords, and when they did an inspection, they were chuffed with the house and said we had it lovely!! I'd never give up on the dog.

Raminahobbin

I have never mentioned my dog to any landlord, which isn't ideal but I felt I had no choice at the time.

One was in an apartment with security cameras and a management company, I never got caught. The second was through a letting agency- the agent knew me from around the town and had definitely seen me walking the dog. Neither of us mentioned it, and all was fine. The third, and current, they've actually met me out walking the dog, and have seen the dog grill in my car and have never said it.

I just make sure all signs of the dog are gone for inspections, and it always seems fine.

They way I see it is the most that you're gonna lose is your deposit. It's not THAT big a deal in the long run.

I commend you for not just abandoning the dog on someone else, it's tough renting with pets but you're right to shoulder the responsibility, especially with an elderly dog who deserves to be around those who he knows and loves.

snyperwolf

Raminahobbin wrote: »

I have never mentioned my dog to any landlord, which isn't ideal but I felt I had no choice at the time.

One was in an apartment with security cameras and a management company, I never got caught. The second was through a letting agency- the agent knew me from around the town and had definitely seen me walking the dog. Neither of us mentioned it, and all was fine. The third, and current, they've actually met me out walking the dog, and have seen the dog grill in my car and have never said it.

I just make sure all signs of the dog are gone for inspections, and it always seems fine.

They way I see it is the most that you're gonna lose is your deposit. It's not THAT big a deal in the long run.

I commend you for not just abandoning the dog on someone else, it's tough renting with pets but you're right to shoulder the responsibility, especially with an elderly dog who deserves to be around those who he knows and loves.

God I'd never abandon the dog. Not an option. She is my responsibility, and she's good as gold (and I love her to bloody bits!!!). Your story has comforted me actually. I'm a very clean, responsible person, I think I'll just not mention it from now on, and once my home is spotless come inspection, who cares!!

Shivi111

Its a real worry, I have 2 cats and landlords are never keen (which I do understand if they have had a bad experience, they have to protect their property).

I don't think it is the best idea to fib about this, how we approached this in the past was as follows:
1. we offered a 'pet deposit', usally about €500 above our other deposit, refundable after 6 months if no damage has been done.
2. we asked our previous landlord for a reference which stated that the cats had done no damage to their property


I agree with you saying that you couldn't pass your pet on, I am the same, there is no way I would move without them! People tend to be very nervous about cats (afriad they will piddle/ spray everywhere or scratch up the furniture) but ours have never caused any damage and, after an initial struggle to find homes with them we now have good references to back this up.

pwurple

snyperwolf wrote: »

Yes you see you're a perfect example. A lot of landlords have only had bad experience with dogs. It's not really an option to pass the dog off on someone else. I'm not the type of person who just treats a dog like an inconvenience to just throw away. I'm committed to my dog. I'm not sure what kind of dog they had in your property, but my house doesn't smell like dog at the moment, and our curtains certainly don't stink of dog!!

There's no dog that doesn't smell like a dog. Sorry!

Raminahobbin

Shivi111 wrote: »

Its a real worry, I have 2 cats and landlords are never keen (which I do understand if they have had a bad experience, they have to protect their property).

I don't think it is the best idea to fib about this, how we approached this in the past was as follows:
1. we offered a 'pet deposit', usally about €500 above our other deposit, refundable after 6 months if no damage has been done.
2. we asked our previous landlord for a reference which stated that the cats had done no damage to their property


I agree with you saying that you couldn't pass your pet on, I am the same, there is no way I would move without them! People tend to be very nervous about cats (afriad they will piddle/ spray everywhere or scratch up the furniture) but ours have never caused any damage and, after an initial struggle to find homes with them we now have good references to back this up.

The pet deposit and reference thing is the route I would try if I had to move again, and it's normally what I would advise people to do also. I think it's a great idea and I'd be REALLY surprised if it didn't work.

But I'd probably only try it on 2 or 3 potential places before I decided to just keep schtum. The market is too competitive at the moment

Also, OP, if you decide not to mention it, don't be afraid to go back in to agents you've already brought up the idea of a dog to. If they say anything, just tell them your mam is taking the dog and you'll just be having the dog visit every so often. Nobody will object to an evening a fortnight or so, and it covers you in case they see you with the dog :pac:

Raminahobbin

pwurple wrote: »

There's no dog that doesn't smell like a dog. Sorry!

My dog sleeps on my bed and lives completely in the house except for walks. She gets professionally groomed approx every 3-4 months, and I always wash her myself if she gets dirty while out and about. She has minimal hair shedding, but I have no carpets in the house so that's not an issue anyway- nothing a quick hoover won't fix.

She doesn't smell in any way strongly, and nobody has ever commented on a dog smell in my house. The people I have over WOULD tell me.

Having a dog while renting does not automatically equal a wrecked house, in any way. If the person is clean and conscious of it, there's no issue. As I said, my landlords have never complained of any damage/smell, and I've always gotten my full deposit back.

doubter

http://www.daft.ie/lettings/corran-waterfall-cork/1501996/

pets allowed

doubter

http://www.daft.ie/lettings/4-the-briary-carrigaline-cork/1499613/
pets allowed

snyperwolf

Thanks for all the advice and empathy guys.

Also nice one for the daft link but it's €400 over my budget haha!

I'm just in limbo now. I've been traipsing around to letting agents and sitting in Internet cafes all day and I'm so disheartened bleh 😭

fussyonion

I had a dog. I had him for about a year and I had to give him up.
It was either "keep the dog" or have somewhere to live.

The apartment we were about to rent wouldn't accept pets so as heartless as it sounds, we HAD to think of a roof over our heads.
Yes, were devastated but we HAD to do it. Otherwise we'd be putting the dog before our own needs.

We gave him to a family who had dogs of the same breed and he was well looked after.
It took us months to get over the dog, but we got over it.
We moved into the apartment and got on with our lives.

Don't let a dog dictate your life; if you can get a place WITHOUT the dog, go for it. Silly not to.

doubter

snyperwolf wrote: »

Thanks for all the advice and empathy guys.

Also nice one for the daft link but it's €400 over my budget haha!

I'm just in limbo now. I've been traipsing around to letting agents and sitting in Internet cafes all day and I'm so disheartened bleh 😭

grin. that are actually the only 2 houses near cork who accepts dogs. I would than really go with everyone else advise and simply not mention the dog.
As you said, he's and old soul and will not need a lot of anything (except sleep, I've a 16 year old who doesn't do anything else but sleep lol..) and just go for it.

Keep in mind a LL has to give you notice of inspection and you'll have time to clear up. ( I've 8 dogs and am renting , but I have a very animal loving landlord and live in the sticks), you should be fine. Just go for it, rent what you like, make sure the house is fit for dogs ( you know yourself, lino or such) you'll be grand. stop worrying about it.I've done that when i had 2 dogs years back, and it wasn't an issue on first inspection as the house was - and remained- spotless.

doubter

fussyonion wrote: »

I had a dog. I had him for about a year and I had to give him up.
It was either "keep the dog" or have somewhere to live.

The apartment we were about to rent wouldn't accept pets so as heartless as it sounds, we HAD to think of a roof over our heads.
Yes, were devastated but we HAD to do it. Otherwise we'd be putting the dog before our own needs.

We gave him to a family who had dogs of the same breed and he was well looked after.
It took us months to get over the dog, but we got over it.
We moved into the apartment and got on with our lives.

Don't let a dog dictate your life; if you can get a place WITHOUT the dog, go for it. Silly not to.

:mad:

fussyonion

doubter wrote: »

:mad:

And that means what exactly?

doubter

that I've heard that excuse 100000 times from people and it just makes me mad. If you try hard enough, you will find something.I've rented in Cork center with 2 dogs and didn't get an issue- and they were RB's.I currently have 8 dogs, 8 horses and 23 cats..and I'm renting. it's possible. Don't give up OP it WILL work

fussyonion

doubter wrote: »

that I've heard that excuse 100000 times from people and it just makes me mad. If you try hard enough, you will find something.I've rented in Cork center with 2 dogs and didn't get an issue- and they were RB's.I currently have 8 dogs, 8 horses and 23 cats..and I'm renting. it's possible. Don't give up OP it WILL work

So it makes you mad, but I've been in a situation where I tried and tried to find a place that would allow dogs, but nowhere would.

So we found a lovely place right where we WANTED to live and we figured it was either me, my OH and our dog on the street or we give the dog to a loving family and take the apartment.

I'd call that being sensible. The dog had a loving home and we had a roof over our heads.
I don't see the big deal.

I also know of a couple who had two little boys and a dog.
They were on Rent Allowance (and that is a huge negative when looking for a property). Finding a place where the LL will accept RA is as rare as hen's teeth.

They actually found a house where the LL was willing to take RA but they refused it because the LL wouldn't allow pets.

Now they're all living in a relative's house and the irony is, the relative wouldn't allow dogs so they gave the dog up anyway!

Baffles me that people are putting pets before homes.

fussyonion

doubter wrote: »

that I've heard that excuse 100000 times from people and it just makes me mad. If you try hard enough, you will find something.I've rented in Cork center with 2 dogs and didn't get an issue- and they were RB's.I currently have 8 dogs, 8 horses and 23 cats..and I'm renting. it's possible. Don't give up OP it WILL work

And you must be living on a farm or somewhere with tons of land.
That's not feasible for city living if that's where the OP wishes to live.

doubter

fussyonion wrote: »

So it makes you mad, but I've been in a situation where I tried and tried to find a place that would allow dogs, but nowhere would.

So we found a lovely place right where we WANTED to live and we figured it was either me, my OH and our dog on the street or we give the dog to a loving family and take the apartment.

I'd call that being sensible. The dog had a loving home and we had a roof over our heads.
I don't see the big deal.

I also know of a couple who had two little boys and a dog.
They were on Rent Allowance (and that is a huge negative when looking for a property). Finding a place where the LL will accept RA is as rare as hen's teeth.

They actually found a house where the LL was willing to take RA but they refused it because the LL wouldn't allow pets.

Now they're all living in a relative's house and the irony is, the relative wouldn't allow dogs so they gave the dog up anyway!

Baffles me that people are putting pets before homes.

MojoRisinnnn

If you're dog isn't loud, destructive etc I cannot see how your landlord would find out? I've a dog and my lease says no pets

doubter

fussyonion wrote: »

And you must be living on a farm or somewhere with tons of land.
That's not feasible for city living if that's where the OP wishes to live.

Finding a property with land that takes that amount of animals is as difficult in the sticks as finding one in a city center with one dog. Don't give up OP

MojoRisinnnn

If your dog isn't loud, destructive etc I cannot see how your landlord would find out? I've a dog and my lease says no pets

handlemaster

snyperwolf wrote: »

Hi guys,

Can anyone give me any advice on what to do. I'm DESPERATE to move to the Cork city area. I currently rent in mallow (myself, boyfriend, a friend, and a dog.) It's really hard at the moment to get a propety in Cork. Like 8/9 people are viewing properties at a time. I went to 2 letting agents in the city today and they were all very interested/had loads to show me, as the three of us have well paying secure jobs and many references between us. BUT the minute I mentioned the dog it was 'no sorry nothing'.

I rang around a few places asking had they any dog friendly properties and got 'NO' straight away. It seems people are so desperate to rent places, they don't need to have someone with a dog in their property. The dog is 13 years old, really quiet, well behaved old thing. NEVER goes toilet in the house. My boyfriends had her since he was 12. I'm devastated and stressed out.

My boyfriend said to say nothing about the dog, but I know that might just get us in a lot of trouble down the line. Any advice or help guys? I cannot commute from mallow to the city anymore, I'm cracking up.

Thanks.

It baffles me at that renters are still surprised with this. This is what a Landlord would think to a dog

1 he will stink the place out
2 **** / piss in the house
3 damage furniture
4 cause a nuance to neighbours
5 Do I really want the hassle of this when I've 1000 people calling me who don't have pets

really boils down to do I want to take the chance when I don't have to

John A

Maybe you could offer to pay a little more rent to persuade a landlord that it's worth it?

handlemaster

I remember living in a house before and the one behind mine had a dog... he barked alot . German shepard I think. Anyhow when it was been rented again the Landlord put down dog friendly. I though to myself, thats great because you don't have to live there.

Semele

I have pets that I'm not supposed to. I've lived here for 2 years now and the agents do a routine inspection every 3 months, with 10 days notice. I just make sure there's no sign of the animals on that day and I've never once had an issue. There will be a full inspection when I move out and if there was any damage (which is highly unlikely) I'd happily forfeit my deposit for it like I would with damage I'd caused.

I was going to tell agents when I was looking but was advised not to and I've since met more and more people who do the same. It's not ideal, but I'd probably do it again when I move.

athtrasna

I'm amazed at the level of dishonesty on this thread. Someone spends hundreds of thousands on a property and people blatantly lie about having pets and then move one or more in?

I'm sorry OP but I can't condone lying to a potential landlord. Mallow to Cork is a short commute relatively speaking. I would suggest staying where you are until you find appropriate accommodation.

MojoRisinnnn

My dog is the realest of lads and never p*sses anywhere, He's very respectful of the apartment and helps around the house, he also has above average hygene and honestly smells better than most of my friends

wobbles

handlemaster wrote: »

It baffles me at that renters are still surprised with this. This is what a Landlord would think to a dog

1 he will stink the place out
2 **** / piss in the house
3 damage furniture
4 cause a nuance to neighbours
5 Do I really want the hassle of this when I've 1000 people calling me who don't have pets

really boils down to do I want to take the chance when I don't have to

4 of those can just as easily happen by renting to the wrong people and they are harder to get rid of.

OP, try look for houses that are not going through estate agents. They dont give a crap who you are or how clean you will keep the house, they just want it off the books asap and move on. By dealing with the owner, they will know straight away whether you are suitable or not. They will more likely to give the OK to pets if they like you and get to meet you.

pwurple

Raminahobbin wrote: »

My dog sleeps on my bed and lives completely in the house except for walks. She gets professionally groomed approx every 3-4 months, and I always wash her myself if she gets dirty while out and about. She has minimal hair shedding, but I have no carpets in the house so that's not an issue anyway

I'm not saying dogs are dirty, just that smell like a dog. Much like humans smell like humans... etc.

(except maybe when they roll in fox poo? ...http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=92893812)

Like I mentioned above, if the OP looked for dog suitable property, they might have more luck. No carpets, like your house.

ps, dog in the bed? Not sexy. Totally revolting.

borderlinemeath

pwurple wrote: »

I'm not saying dogs are dirty, just that smell like a dog. Much like humans smell like humans... etc.

And you can have the most vile smelling humans, depending on their hygiene habits to their cooking habits. Regardless of tenant, all rentals have a certain "smell" at the end of a tenancy and repainting and cleaning will eliminate it. I've had far more damage done by a 5yr old child than the next tenant who had a dog.

(except maybe when they roll in fox poo? ...http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=92893812)

The smell of fox poo, or any foul smelling substance that dogs may roll in is eliminated by applying tomato ketchup to the source of smell. Leave on 10 minutes and rinse off, the odour is gone.

Like I mentioned above, if the OP looked for dog suitable property, they might have more luck. No carpets, like your house.

Even if a house is carpeted a shampoo at the end of a tenancy should eliminate odours, and any responsible dog owner wouldn't leave a dog unsupervised on a carpeted floor, when you are a pet owner you tend to think ahead, so the dogs bed should be in the kitchen/utility/bathroom or a tiled floor, in case of any accidents/illness etc.

ps, dog in the bed? Not sexy. Totally revolting.

Who do you sleep with? Humans tend to shed lots of skin cells and sweat into the sheets and mattress every night. My dogs get up on my bed for a cuddle in the morning or when my husband is away they sleep on the bed, and he does the same if I'm away. I change the bedding regularly so it's no big deal. Now if I could just get him to stop sweating....

Afroshack

fussyonion wrote: »

So it makes you mad, but I've been in a situation where I tried and tried to find a place that would allow dogs, but nowhere would.

So we found a lovely place right where we WANTED to live and we figured it was either me, my OH and our dog on the street or we give the dog to a loving family and take the apartment.

I'd call that being sensible. The dog had a loving home and we had a roof over our heads.
I don't see the big deal.

I also know of a couple who had two little boys and a dog.
They were on Rent Allowance (and that is a huge negative when looking for a property). Finding a place where the LL will accept RA is as rare as hen's teeth.

They actually found a house where the LL was willing to take RA but they refused it because the LL wouldn't allow pets.

Now they're all living in a relative's house and the irony is, the relative wouldn't allow dogs so they gave the dog up anyway!

Baffles me that people are putting pets before homes.

Would you do the same to your children? Thought not.

quietsailor

snyperwolf wrote: »

I cannot commute from mallow to the city anymore, I'm cracking up.

Don't think moving close to the city will automatically give you a lesser commute - anyone living in Passage/Rochestown who works at 9 in Cork is looking at a 20 - 30 min slow crawl just to get to the dual carriageway, they may even have a longer commute than you depending on what time you work at :eek:

If you're on FaceBook ask to join the "people from cork with dogs" page, they had a thread recently about someone with a house to rent in Cork that was dog friendly and a few months ago someone posted about a dog friendly estate agent in Ballincollig

fussyonion

Afroshack wrote: »

Would you do the same to your children? Thought not.

Don't be so ridiculous. If I had children, I certainly wouldn't compare them to a dog. I was waiting for someone to come along with that.

doubter

fussyonion wrote: »

Don't be so ridiculous. If I had children, I certainly wouldn't compare them to a dog. I was waiting for someone to come along with that.

odd. dogs are their children to many people. You must be a cat person.:D

MojoRisinnnn

Dogs are less destructive than kids!

Raminahobbin

pwurple wrote: »

I'm not saying dogs are dirty, just that smell like a dog. Much like humans smell like humans... etc.

(except maybe when they roll in fox poo? ...http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=92893812)

Like I mentioned above, if the OP looked for dog suitable property, they might have more luck. No carpets, like your house.

ps, dog in the bed? Not sexy. Totally revolting.

HA! Was waiting for someone to quote that

Yes, she rolls in poo 2 or 3 times a year, if I'm not quick enough. But as Borderlinemeath said, it's easily dealt with and she doesn't even have to come into the house until it is.

And regarding the dog on the bed- I've never had any complaints. Sheets are changed regularly, and it's nice to have a warm fuzzy hot water bottle

Fussyonion wrote:

Don't be so ridiculous. If I had children, I certainly wouldn't compare them to a dog. I was waiting for someone to come along with that.

So you don't see your dog like a child. Fine. It explains why you gave your dog away. But for people who are passionate about dogs and love dogs like they were their children, this is NOT an option. We hate, with a passionate, the disposable pet attitude, where as soon as it becomes inconvenient to have your pet you give it away.

I'm not attacking you or your choice, I don't know your situation. But the OP has stated that giving the dog up is not an option. Her dog is elderly, and possibly only has a few years left. It is the right thing to do to make do with the inconvenience so that the dog can live out her life surrounded by people she knows and loves. It is absolutely, positively, heartbreaking to see a dog who has been abandoned by it's owner into a situation of complete uncertainty, especially the elderly ones who know nothing else. And it happens too often.

The OP doesn't want to do that. So she may have no choice but to omit telling landlords. As crimes go, it's a very very small one.

borderlinemeath

fussyonion wrote: »

Don't be so ridiculous. If I had children, I certainly wouldn't compare them to a dog. I was waiting for someone to come along with that.

Absolutely. Children are capable of far worse damage to a house and for some reason, people think it's acceptable as "they're just being kids"

As I mentioned above a 5yr old was like a cyclone in my rental house.

Every kitchen chair seat had deep scratches from buckles on her shoes from either climbing up or sitting on her knees at the table.
Kitchen table had embedded pen scratch marks
Wooden floors had green and red felt tip pen drawings all over them.
Black marker scribbled all over a solid oak door
Sofa used as a hidey hole for food she didn't want to eat, food stuffed down the back of it, mostly mouldy bread.

The tenancy with a dog left a few baldy patches in the back garden grass.

My husband has had tenants with dogs as well and never had problems. The majority of dog owners are aware that having a dog puts them at a disadvantage and go to great lengths to ensure that the property is maintained to a high standard. Some even go so far as to offer a larger deposit as a guarantee that the dog is not going to damage the property or contents.

fussyonion

doubter wrote: »

odd. dogs are their children to many people. You must be a cat person.:D

"Dogs are children to many people"...yeah, it's those kind of people I steer clear of. :rolleyes:

fussyonion

Raminahobbin wrote: »

HA! Was waiting for someone to quote that

Yes, she rolls in poo 2 or 3 times a year, if I'm not quick enough. But as Borderlinemeath said, it's easily dealt with and she doesn't even have to come into the house until it is.

And regarding the dog on the bed- I've never had any complaints. Sheets are changed regularly, and it's nice to have a warm fuzzy hot water bottle



So you don't see your dog like a child. Fine. It explains why you gave your dog away. But for people who are passionate about dogs and love dogs like they were their children, this is NOT an option. We hate, with a passionate, the disposable pet attitude, where as soon as it becomes inconvenient to have your pet you give it away.

I'm not attacking you or your choice, I don't know your situation. But the OP has stated that giving the dog up is not an option. Her dog is elderly, and possibly only has a few years left. It is the right thing to do to make do with the inconvenience so that the dog can live out her life surrounded by people she knows and loves. It is absolutely, positively, heartbreaking to see a dog who has been abandoned by it's owner into a situation of complete uncertainty, especially the elderly ones who know nothing else. And it happens too often.

The OP doesn't want to do that. So she may have no choice but to omit telling landlords. As crimes go, it's a very very small one.

My dog was never my child and I class dogs as PETS.

I didn't give the dog away because it was inconvenient; I gave him up because it was either LIVE ON THE STREET or have a roof over my head.
Anyone who'd have chosen the former needs their heads checked. Seriously. Baffles me!

borderlinemeath

fussyonion wrote: »

My dog was never my child and I class dogs as PETS.

I didn't give the dog away because it was inconvenient; I gave him up because it was either LIVE ON THE STREET or have a roof over my head.
Anyone who'd have chosen the former needs their heads checked. Seriously. Baffles me!

Actually you said you found a place where you "WANTED" to live. Had you broadened your search area it is entirely possible that you could have found somewhere suitable for yourself and your dog.

Did you consider offering an increased security deposit as a guarantee to prospective landlords? Money is a fantastic incentive and could have given you the edge over other prospective tenants.

Owning a pet is a responsibility for a living creature. To most that is an obligation for the lifetime of that pet, to care for, feed and nurture that pet. A good few people I know would rather sleep in a tent than give up their pet if they couldn't find somewhere suitable to live, yet you think they should get their heads checked. They would probably say the same about your attitude to pets though.

Raminahobbin

fussyonion wrote: »

I gave him up because it was either LIVE ON THE STREET or have a roof over my head.

No it wasn't. Not even remotely. You could have lied about having a pet, you could have lived in a different area until something else came up, you could have organised for the dog to stay in home boarding for a while until you got sorted- there's tonnes of things you could have done if you really REALLY wanted to.

I left my dog for 3 nights with a lady who minds dogs in her home recently. She currently has 2 dogs with her whose owner have had to emigrate. One only for a year- he would be coming back and taking the dog home again. The other had to leave quite suddenly, but he was working with the lady to get the dogs over to him as soon as possible- the dog had been there for 4 months already.

You take on a dog, you take on a responsibility. For life. Most dog owners who love their dogs don't take that fact lightly.

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There are loads of ways for your landlord to find out if you lie. If the dog damages something. If they're friendly with a neighbour of the rented property. If there's a management company and somebody reports it. If you miss something before an inspection by accident. If they can smell it. If they happen to drive by the property and see you with the dog or if someone they know does.

You will lose your deposit and any chance of a reference. And if you rent through an agent and the landlord tells them about this then they probably won't work with you again.

Apart from being unfair and dishonest to the person who owns the property you are renting it is not in your own interest to lie about something like this. Offer an additional pet deposit and people who have animals themselves might understand and take you up on it. Otherwise wait for something properly suitable to come up.

fussyonion

Raminahobbin wrote: »

No it wasn't. Not even remotely. You could have lied about having a pet, you could have lived in a different area until something else came up, you could have organised for the dog to stay in home boarding for a while until you got sorted- there's tonnes of things you could have done if you really REALLY wanted to.

I left my dog for 3 nights with a lady who minds dogs in her home recently. She currently has 2 dogs with her whose owner have had to emigrate. One only for a year- he would be coming back and taking the dog home again. The other had to leave quite suddenly, but he was working with the lady to get the dogs over to him as soon as possible- the dog had been there for 4 months already.

You take on a dog, you take on a responsibility. For life. Most dog owners who love their dogs don't take that fact lightly.

Sorry but I wasn't going to lie to my Landlord about having a pet and I can't believe you'd actually encourage someone to do that.
To tell a LL you don't have a pet when you do?

fussyonion

borderlinemeath wrote: »

Actually you said you found a place where you "WANTED" to live. Had you broadened your search area it is entirely possible that you could have found somewhere suitable for yourself and your dog.

Did you consider offering an increased security deposit as a guarantee to prospective landlords? Money is a fantastic incentive and could have given you the edge over other prospective tenants.

Owning a pet is a responsibility for a living creature. To most that is an obligation for the lifetime of that pet, to care for, feed and nurture that pet. A good few people I know would rather sleep in a tent than give up their pet if they couldn't find somewhere suitable to live, yet you think they should get their heads checked. They would probably say the same about your attitude to pets though.

Nope. I wanted to live in this particular area and I wasn't letting the fact I had a dog mean I had to live down the country or someplace.
Why would I?

Be miserable in a house in the country, away from family and friends JUST because I had my dog with me?
I think not!
And my LL was adamant he did not want pets in his property, as was his wish. No amount of money would have swayed him.

Raminahobbin

fussyonion wrote: »

Sorry but I wasn't going to lie to my Landlord about having a pet and I can't believe you'd actually encourage someone to do that.
To tell a LL you don't have a pet when you do?

Well, if it's a choice between giving my dog up and lying, I know which I'd choose. Once the landlord meets you and has a couple of inspections, they're usually fine with it anyway, as I've previously said.

It's not ideal, and it doesn't feel good, but Irish landlords have ridiculous notions of the 'damage' caused by pets. As borderlinemeath said, people who rent with pets are usually massively grateful to have found somewhere that they don't want to jeopardize it by having a pet there that might cause damage.

I know I certainly go above and beyond to make sure my house is spotless purely because I know I'm lucky to have the place I do, especially now that there's an unspoken knowledge of my dog being here. They know I have her, they know the place is clean, we've just never spoken of it. In fact, the house attached to mine (same landlord) has recently been let to a lady with a dog, and I'm convinced it's because they see my dog and see that it's not a big deal.

fussyonion wrote: »

Nope. I wanted to live in this particular area and I wasn't letting the fact I had a dog mean I had to live down the country or someplace.
Why would I?

Be miserable in a house in the country, away from family and friends JUST because I had my dog with me?
I think not!
And my LL was adamant he did not want pets in his property, as was his wish. No amount of money would have swayed him.

It doesn't have to be a house in the country ffs. It could have been a house the next town over. It's renting, not purchasing- it's flexible enough that you could have lived somewhere slightly less than ideal until something better came up.

fussyonion

Raminahobbin wrote: »

Well, if it's a choice between giving my dog up and lying, I know which I'd choose. Once the landlord meets you and has a couple of inspections, they're usually fine with it anyway, as I've previously said.

It's not ideal, and it doesn't feel good, but Irish landlords have ridiculous notions of the 'damage' caused by pets. As borderlinemeath said, people who rent with pets are usually massively grateful to have found somewhere that they don't want to jeopardize it by having a pet there that might cause damage.

I know I certainly go above and beyond to make sure my house is spotless purely because I know I'm lucky to have the place I do, especially now that there's an unspoken knowledge of my dog being here. They know I have her, they know the place is clean, we've just never spoken of it. In fact, the house attached to mine (same landlord) has recently been let to a lady with a dog, and I'm convinced it's because they see my dog and see that it's not a big deal.



It doesn't have to be a house in the country ffs. It could have been a house the next town over. It's renting, not purchasing- it's flexible enough that you could have lived somewhere slightly less than ideal until something better came up.

Nope, wasn't flexible. I wanted to live in that particular area and sorry, but I don't just move into a place hoping something better comes up.
That's no way to live.
I accept you're an animal lover and you wouldn't do what I did, but I would do it again if I had to. No bother.

Raminahobbin

fussyonion wrote: »

Nope, wasn't flexible. I wanted to live in that particular area and sorry, but I don't just move into a place hoping something better comes up.
That's no way to live.
I accept you're an animal lover and you wouldn't do what I did, but I would do it again if I had to. No bother.

I was commenting on the fact that you said it was live on the streets V give up the pets. It clearly wasn't, you were just being fussy (heh) about where you lived.

You will do what you're going to do, but the OP- who started the thread- is an animal lover too, so really your particular point of view is moot here in this thread. She has a perspective you don't share, and you're not going to change her mind.

I do sincerely hope, not in a nasty way, that you don't decide to get a dog again, especially while you are renting. It's really not fair on the pet to think so little of giving them away. You're their world.