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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Very good point.

    So how do we go about getting the next big thing?

    We have the next big thing - Raheem Sterling! This time next year he'll be scoring 20/25 goals as a forward ;)

    Maybe its Ojo or Ibe or Canos or Kent or Wilson or Sinclair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,395 ✭✭✭jasonb


    First leg of the Chelsea Semi-Final confirmed for Tues 20th of Jan. If you're thinking of going over for it, Ryanair have cheap flights for that day (€17.99) and the same price for the return flight the next day...

    J.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Dayum


    Very good point.

    So how do we go about getting the next big thing?

    Maybe it's because I take an interest in the Copa Libertadores and the South American leagues but I was aware of Neymar and Ganso since around 2009 when they were at Santos. The same with Tevez and Mascherano when I seen them playing for Boca Juniors and River Plate back in 2005. Even Aguero showed signs of stardom at 17 when he was at Independiente. I was shocked to see a European club take so long to come in for Neymar...

    There are some real gems in the South American leagues - that's why I think Liverpool would benefit from having a manager from the region who knows the football there like the back of his hand and is capable of sweeping up all the talent. I\d recommend Tite who won the Copa Libertadores with Corinthians. He's well respected in Latin America.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    Villa fans speak extremely highly of Delph and have been happy for a while that his performances have gone un-noticed....well, he got his recent national call up so there has been some.

    I've seen him play a few times, and he definitely has ability and is nice on the ball. For a freebie, I'd take him as he would be a much more graceful player than Lucas.....but will push Can further away from the starting 11.

    But I'd much rather go for a DM that is sweet on the ball, graceful and has a bit of power about himself. Who that is...no idea.

    I would f*cking love Benzema. Chances of that are real slim I'd say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Strongbow10


    Dayum wrote: »
    Maybe it's because I take an interest in the Copa Libertadores and the South American leagues but I was aware of Neymar and Ganso since around 2009 when they were at Santos. The same with Tevez and Mascherano when I seen them playing for Boca Juniors and River Plate back in 2005. Even Aguero showed signs of stardom at 17 when he was at Independiente. I was shocked to see a European club take so long to come in for Neymar...

    There are some real gems in the South American leagues - that's why I think Liverpool would benefit from having a manager from the region who knows the football there like the back of his hand and is capable of sweeping up all the talent. I\d recommend Tite who won the Copa Libertadores with Corinthians. He's well respected in Latin America.

    English clubs can't sweep up the best of South American youth due to work permit restrictions


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Was a fan of Neymar and Ganso in 2008 myself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Dayum


    English clubs can't sweep up the best of South American youth due to work permit restrictions

    Good comment.
    Turtyturd wrote: »
    Was a fan of Neymar and Ganso in 2008 myself.

    :rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Gits_bone


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    Was a fan of Neymar and Ganso in 2008 myself.

    I was a fan in 2007 aswell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Dayum


    Gits_bone wrote: »
    I was a fan in 2007 aswell.

    You misunderstood. The point I'm making is that it took a very long time for Europe in general to become aware of this kid in Sao Paulo when everyone in S. America was well aware of his talent going back years. Strongbow makes a good point in that British work permit restrictions are holding back players from entering the country to engage in the Premier League.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Gits_bone


    Dayum wrote: »
    You misunderstood. The point I'm making is that it took a very long time for Europe in general to become aware of this kid in Sao Paulo when everyone in S. America was well aware of his talent going back years. Strongbow makes a good point in that British work permit restrictions are holding back players from entering the country to engage in the Premier League.

    I was only joking. :)

    Tevez was at the Olympics in 2004 and was known it was only a matter of time before he made a big move. Had Liverpool made a move, others would have come in.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    Dayum wrote: »
    You misunderstood. The point I'm making is that it took a very long time for Europe in general to become aware of this kid in Sao Paulo when everyone in S. America was well aware of his talent going back years. Strongbow makes a good point in that British work permit restrictions are holding back players from entering the country to engage in the Premier League.

    You are going on like nobody ever heard of Neymar before he moved to Barca. Chelsea were interested in him years ago, think they may have even bid for him? He said all along he was staying in Brazil for a few years before moving to Europe. It wasn't a case of nobody being interested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Dayum wrote: »
    You misunderstood. The point I'm making is that it took a very long time for Europe in general to become aware of this kid in Sao Paulo when everyone in S. America was well aware of his talent going back years. Strongbow makes a good point in that British work permit restrictions are holding back players from entering the country to engage in the Premier League.

    Well considering Neymar trained with Real Madrid in 2006 (he was 14)plenty in Europe were aware of him from a very young age.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Porto(and other Portugese clubs) have really benefited from picking up South American players. The work permit issue is a massive restriction for British teams though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Porto(and other Portugese clubs) have really benefited from picking up South American players. The work permit issue is a massive restriction for British teams though.

    Porto also benefit (in the sourcing element at least) largely from third party membership of players, so there is usually little risk involved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭Bowlardo


    jasonb wrote: »
    First leg of the Chelsea Semi-Final confirmed for Tues 20th of Jan. If you're thinking of going over for it, Ryanair have cheap flights for that day (€17.99) and the same price for the return flight the next day...

    J.


    Would it be hard to get tickets?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Dayum


    Would anyone give Alexandre Pato another bite at the cherry in Europe? Still only 25 and would cost less than 10m. Well, seen as Brenden Rodgers fancies himself as a bit of a father figure to these f*cked up kids....he could be Balotelli's piss-up buddy in a nightclub on the eve of an all important match up against United...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Rodgers has confirmed Jones will be in goal.

    Presser video.

    http://www.lfc.vn/presser-matchday/rodgers-pre-arsenal-presser-s15-w17/

    Also.

    Brendan Rodgers believes Liverpool FC winger Lazar Markovic is starting to justify his £20million price tag.

    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/liverpool-boss-says-lazar-markovic-8315166


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,646 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas





    Jesus christ, what has Mig done to deserve this shut out!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭DaveSuarez


    Very good point.

    So how do we go about getting the next big thing?

    We put Paul Heyman in charge of our transfers.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    Haha no way are we bidding 50m for anyone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,033 ✭✭✭garra


    In the old days Liverpool would pick up the hot thing at a smaller British club (Aldo, Beardsley, Ian St John, Toshack) and pay at times big money for him! Though not always of course - Keegan and Roger Hunt were both cheap pick-ups. The rest were mainly home grown - Owen, Fowler, Fairclough, Liddle, Jack Balmer etc.

    That's something that's really changed - who was the last really good striker to join any big club from a small one and go on to do big things? Ian Wright from Palace? Alan Shearer from Southampton?

    Daniel Sturridge :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,145 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    I have lost a lot of time for Rodgers with this Jones in goals stunt. Fair enough one game but it hasn't worked and he is not good enough. He did the same last year bringing on the make a wish fella against Chelsea.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,893 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Jesus christ, what has Mig done to deserve this shut out!?

    It seems to me like he must have had a full on blazing row with Rodgers as there is really no other explanation given how Jones has done in the last couple of games. Mignolet has not done well all season but he is still clearly better than Jones. You'd have to assume that it is nailed on that we will see a keeper arrive in the January window, and presumably fairly early on. I saw links to Romero yesterday, but again it's all speculation, as is my blazing row stuff obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    5starpool wrote: »
    It seems to me like he must have had a full on blazing row with Rodgers as there is really no other explanation given how Jones has done in the last couple of games. Mignolet has not done well all season but he is still clearly better than Jones. You'd have to assume that it is nailed on that we will see a keeper arrive in the January window, and presumably fairly early on. I saw links to Romero yesterday, but again it's all speculation, as is my blazing row stuff obviously.

    I would hope it is Romero over Ochoa if we are really after one of them


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,801 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    naughtb4 wrote: »
    Porto also benefit (in the sourcing element at least) largely from third party membership of players, so there is usually little risk involved

    lower share of the sell-on fee though for the club, you'd imagine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,395 ✭✭✭jasonb


    Bowlardo wrote: »
    Would it be hard to get tickets?

    It's hard to know, it being a Semi Final doesn't help, and it being Chelsea really doesn't help! If you're only looking for 1 ticket, and if you have any of the earlier rounds on your member card, it should be possible. At least that's what I'm hoping! :)

    J.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Gits_bone


    If we're looking at players on frees, the forgotten man Scott Sinclair might be a shout. Wasted at City, looked savage at Swansea.

    And is Artur Boruc past it? He was a savage keeper at S'ton?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    Andy ScottVerified account ‏@andpscott

    Report coming out of Lille that Divock Origi will end Lille loan in Jan and join Liverpool. #LFC will pay 6 million euros for the privilege

    Hopefully not much pressure on him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    €6m for basically 6 months for a guy who's scored 9 goals in 55 league games while we ignore Borini. Genius.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭gafferino


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