Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

niallo27

Is Gerrard stifling that midfield. Are they afraid of him and just give him the ball instead of trying things.

Calvin

Toure had the game of his life tonight...fantastic performance from him in my eyes. Really proud of the team tonight, didn't expext much from them when the team sheet was first released but I think it's fair to say they surprised everyone. Could've also had one back if Can had squared it across to Borini

LuckyLloyd

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Whenever Lucas and Gerrard are on the pitch together it doesn't work.

Look, just don't play Allen unless absolutely necessary. He's physically soft; doesn't have great vision and gives it away cheaply by times. Can / Lucas have to be getting game time ahead of him.

viper006

Charlie19 wrote: »

This is the team I'd like to see against Chelsea.

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Mignolet

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--Manquillo--Skrtel--Toure--Moreno--

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Gerrard

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Can

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Henderson

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Couthinio

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Borini--- Sterling

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Holy sh*t, that is some dog rough awful team. Borini should be no where near the starting 11. A truly appalling scoring record for us. Toure was at fault for the benezema goal for all the good work he did tonight. No thanks

darced

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p38

lallana worked tirelessly had a few nice touches but he is very light in fact a lot of Liverpool players are on the light side. Hadn't seen Bale in a while :eek:he is a beast now bulked up. Hope Chelsea don't push us around the weekend another big team.

MD1990

viper006 wrote: »

Holy sh*t, that is some dog rough awful team. Borini should be no where near the starting 11. A truly appalling scoring record for us. Toure was at fault for the benezema goal for all the good work he did tonight. No thanks

A near impossible cross to defend. Toure has to start vs Chelsea.

brevity

viper006 wrote: »

Holy sh*t, that is some dog rough awful team. Borini should be no where near the starting 11. A truly appalling scoring record for us. Toure was at fault for the benezema goal for all the good work he did tonight. No thanks

Borini should most definitely start alongside Balotelli. As should Toure. The goal was not his fault.

Kerrigooney

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Look, just don't play Allen unless absolutely necessary. He's physically soft; doesn't have great vision and gives it away cheaply by times. Can / Lucas have to be getting game time ahead of him.

And Gerrard doesn't?

50 yard diagonal balls straight out of play is giving the ball away cheaply and Gerrard does it plenty. If they come off they look great but if they don't...

Chucky the tree

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

That performance in terms of effort was the minimum I expect. I don't want to pick on players who worked hard but some names who cost a lot of money are very technically limited.

I think that game made a mockery of the fatalistic 'Real will stuff us' white flag brigade in here. They're not invincible by any stretch. Wonder what Gerrard / Sterling could have offered if they were on for longer...

Considering they offered nothing when they were on I'm not sure it would have made any difference.

MD1990

For Chelsea I would go

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Mignolet

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Manquillo---Skrtel--Lovren--Moreno

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Lucas

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Henderson----Can

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Gerrard

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Sterling

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Balotelli

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mav79

Rodgers has a big call to make for the Chelsea game now. Hopefully there is no changes to the back four and Lucas keeps his place in front of them. The biggest question is, does Gerrard go straight back into the team?

citytillidie

mada999 wrote: »

can see Ancelotti, fielding a weak team against Basel tbh... if they get a point and we win 2 do we still go through ?

This is how it works

Liverpool win both games and Real win or draw their's Liverpool go through with a simple win V Basel

Liverpool win both games and Basel beat Real Liverpool need to beat Basel by 2 clear goals to go through

Liverpool draw with Ludogorets and beat Basel, they need Basel to lose to Real too or if Basel draw with Real then Liverpool will need to beat Basel by 2 clear goals to go through

Anything else and they are out

viper006

brevity wrote: »

Borini should most definitely start alongside Balotelli. As should Toure. The goal was not his fault.

Sorry i cant believe things have got to stage after 100m spent we are talking about starting borini and toure against the league leaders and real madrid. Rodgers wont drop lovren for chelsea. I dont rate borini at all but agree its better than balotelli up front on his own.

I cant remember us ever being so toothless up front. We seem to always push chelsea so hoping the players step up.

MD1990

Interesting tweet from Rodgers press conference.

Daniel Taylor ‏@DTguardian 2m2 minutes ago

Rodgers giving clear impression here that players were not necessarily 'rested', but dropped because of performance at Newcastle

Chucky the tree

MD1990 wrote: »

Interesting tweet from Rodgers press conference.

Lol. Please Brendan. They'll be straight back in the side for Chelsea.

Charlie19

viper006 wrote: »

Holy sh*t, that is some dog rough awful team. Borini should be no where near the starting 11. A truly appalling scoring record for us. Toure was at fault for the benezema goal for all the good work he did tonight. No thanks

Dog rough:D

Borini has been no worse than anyone else we've put out since Sturridge got injured. Kolo looked good tonight and imo he deserves a chance.

MD1990

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Lol. Please. They'll be straight back in the side for Chelsea.

Gerrard & Sterling will for sure. Wouldn't say the rest of the players will be certain starters.

Super-Rush

Milkers wrote: »

Lucas still plays the DM role better than Gerrard. There I said it.

No doubt about it.

In fact he's the best DM at the club and i didn't need tonight's performance to prove that.

Sir Gallagher

Joe Allen is a fairly pointless player, out injured most of the time then decidedly average when fit. Waste of a squad place imo. Rodgers replacing Lucas with Gerrard to sit in the DM role when we needed a goal was very uninspiring.

5live

viper006 wrote: »

Sorry i cant believe things have got to stage after 100m spent we are talking about starting borini and toure against the league leaders and real madrid. Rodgers wont drop lovren for chelsea. I dont rate borini at all but agree its better than balotelli up front on his own.

I cant remember us ever being so toothless up front. We seem to always push chelsea so hoping the players step up.

Tour was composed at the back and pulling the pi$$ out of Real on the wing twice. He has to start for me but probably rested as the Chelsea game so close to this game.

Borini has to start. We can play a 4-3-3 with him rather than 4-3-2 with Balotelli. He works his socks off all day and offers runs in behind rather than Balotellis statue impersonation.

LuckyLloyd

Kerrigooney wrote: »

And Gerrard doesn't?

50 yard diagonal balls straight out of play is giving the ball away cheaply and Gerrard does it plenty. If they come off they look great but if they don't...

Gerrard is a far superior player to Allen; in anycase, Lucas / Can in there can do what Allen is trying to do far more competently.

Sir Gallagher

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Lol. Please Brendan. They'll be straight back in the side for Chelsea.

Don't think that's the point, being dropped for this game would have been a proper kick in the hole for these lads.

brevity

viper006 wrote: »

Sorry i cant believe things have got to stage after 100m spent we are talking about starting borini and toure against the league leaders and real madrid. Rodgers wont drop lovren for chelsea. I dont rate borini at all but agree its better than balotelli up front on his own.

I cant remember us ever being so toothless up front. We seem to always push chelsea so hoping the players step up.

It's depressing but that's where we are. Balotelli is useless on his own, Borini has to start.

Kolo played very well tonight and deserves to start against Chelsea. He seems to be the only one telling people to push out of the box as well.

Chucky the tree

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Don't think that's the point, being dropped for this game would have been a proper kick in the hole for these lads.

I suppose we'll find out on Saturday. Strange how he didn't mention that before the game.

viper006

Charlie19 wrote: »

Dog rough:D

Borini has been no worse than anyone else we've put out since Sturridge got injured. Kolo looked good tonight and imo he deserves a chance.

Completely agree, our strikeforce has been absolutely disgraceful. Borini started against west ham and he was absolutely dire. I dont want him near the starting 11 for chelsea.Toure i can see your point but decent performance is not enough for me to say he deserves a starting berth after 1 game.

lovern, sterling, henderson and johnson all poor v newcastle, gerrard a bit better but still average.

LuckyLloyd

Well, whatever the motives for dropping people, we really need some better performances ahead. It's in our hands, but those games have to be won.

5starpool

citytillidie wrote: »

This is how it works

Liverpool win both games and Real win or draw their's Liverpool go through with a simple win V Basel

Liverpool win both games and Basel beat Real Liverpool need to beat Basel by 2 clear goals to go through

Liverpool draw with Ludogorets and beat Basel, they need Basel to lose to Real too or if Basel draw with Real then Liverpool will need to beat Basel by 2 clear goals to go through

Anything else and they are out

Liverpool lose to Ludogorets by a narrow margin, beat Basel by about 4 goals, and Real win both their games then we probably go through on goal difference.

slingerz

Johnson for Manquillo? Not for me
Lovren for Kolo? Not based on performances
Balotelli for Borini? Not for me anyway Borini all day
Coutinho for Lallana? 50/50 prob Lallana for work rate against Chelsea wide players
Sterling for Markovic? Yep
Henderson for Can? 50/50
Gerrard for Allen? 50/50 but probably out of sentiment

Don't see the total problem with the team selection. Poss start Sterlinng but he wasn't great against Newcastle