Will Ireland ever win Eurovision again?

Augmerson · 31-10-2014 4:38pm #1

Ireland has the current record of Eurovision song contest wins with 7, including a phenomenal 3 in a row in the early 90's (93' 94' and 94'). I remember as a kid that those events were pretty big.

Everybody would be in at home watching them, listening to the dry wit of Terry Wogan and we would all be delighted if Ireland did win, and also equally disgusted when other countries gave us **** all points.

I know that the competition has changed, and not for the better, but it's not inconceivable that, with the immense musical talent in this country, we could send over an act that has a good chance of winning?

Hosting these events is expensive but not a complete waste of money. It's a chance to show Ireland to the world. I'd love it if we won again. I'd really like to see how we pick entries completely revamped, something like what Sweden has with the Melodifestivalen.

It would be a much better way to showcase original and native musical talent than X Factor, that's for sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSXx7-EceBA

Tin Foil Hat · 31-10-2014 4:47pm

No, and I don't understand for the life of me why we even enter. Competitions with scores based on phone in votes are utterly valueless.

Kermit.de.frog · 31-10-2014 4:50pm

You clearly have a lot to worry about OP.

Augmerson · 31-10-2014 4:51pm

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

Competitions with scores based on phone in votes are utterly valueless.

It's much the same as a vote in a General Election.

Putin · 31-10-2014 4:53pm

Augmerson wrote: »

Will Ireland ever win Eurovision again?

No. Too many cliques now, especially with the Eastern European entrants and the Baltic States all looking after each other. Now if I decide to reimpose the Iron Curtain, I think Ireland might just start winning again.

Turtyturd · 31-10-2014 4:54pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

You clearly have a lot to worry about OP.

People in glass houses...

Anyway I'd question the 94 and 94 wins.

GalwayGirl26 · 31-10-2014 4:56pm

It's half jury vote now, which I'd say would work in out favour.
I think the problem is a lot of Irish talent doesn't want to be associated with the Contest, whereas on countries where it's still new and quite popular, they attract their top artists. You often hear that the acts are big in their own, and surrounding, countries and this is their way to break into Western Europe.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 31-10-2014 4:57pm

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

No, and I don't understand for the life of me why we even enter. Competitions with scores based on phone in votes are utterly valueless.

As soon as they made the switch to televoting we stopped winning.

I think recently however it's changed to 50% tele 50% jury.

Calibos · 31-10-2014 5:08pm

If we really wanted to win again we could no problem. Just enter another equivelent of Eimear Quinn and "The Voice" or Norway and Secret Gardens "Nocturne". Norways winning entry had Irish members of the group and a Celtic sound.

Even the Eastern Bloc love the oul Irish Celtic sound which would circumvent their bloc voting.

RTE should have arranged for the win last year to coincide with The Gathering to give an extra boost to Tourism.

iDave · 31-10-2014 5:10pm

Where would we stage it?

vektarman · 31-10-2014 5:11pm

We'd gallop away with it with this..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG0QKaaLTCE

Kermit.de.frog · 31-10-2014 5:12pm

vektarman wrote: »

We'd gallop away with it with this..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG0QKaaLTCE

Yes!:D

Calibos · 31-10-2014 5:16pm

iDave wrote: »

Where would we stage it?

Eh?? You're asking this because we have so many LESS??? world class venues to stage it then we did back in the mid 90's??

DEFTLEFTHAND · 31-10-2014 5:18pm

Calibos wrote: »

If we really wanted to win again we could no problem. Just enter another equivelent of Eimear Quinn and "The Voice" or Norway and Secret Gardens "Nocturne". Norways winning entry had Irish members of the group and a Celtic sound.

Even the Eastern Bloc love the oul Irish Celtic sound which would circumvent their bloc voting.

RTE should have arranged for the win last year to coincide with The Gathering to give an extra boost to Tourism.

As long as it's not Dervish.

The bloc voting problem is overstated anyway and serves as a handy excuse for dismal failure. A strong song and performance wins it out every year.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 31-10-2014 5:20pm

iDave wrote: »

Where would we stage it?

That's a good question actually, the 02 probably wouldn't fit their capacity requirements and afaik they don't allow outdoor venues.

Kermit.de.frog · 31-10-2014 5:21pm

iDave wrote: »

Where would we stage it?

Mill Street.

c_man · 31-10-2014 5:21pm

Our glory days are past. I predict we'll win at least once more, possibly before 2120.

ToddyDoody · 31-10-2014 5:51pm

Ireland can win it again. Take a short porno film and make it poppy and high energy and we're in with a good shout.

c_man · 31-10-2014 5:52pm

ToddyDoody wrote: »

Ireland can win it again. Take a short porno film and make it poppy and high energy and we're in with a good shout.

Boo! :P

stimpson · 31-10-2014 6:12pm

Augmerson wrote: »

Ireland has the current record of Eurovision song contest wins with 7, including a phenomenal 3 in a row in the early 90's (93' 94' and 94').

We eere that good in 94 that we won it twice. We rocked back then.

lertsnim · 31-10-2014 6:15pm

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

No, and I don't understand for the life of me why we even enter. Competitions with scores based on phone in votes are utterly valueless.

€€€€€€€€€

It costs nothing to show and all those votes

Areyouwell · 31-10-2014 6:16pm

vektarman wrote: »

We'd gallop away with it with this..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG0QKaaLTCE

We should actually enter that song. It would be a nice two fingers to what was now become a joke.

31-10-2014 6:17pm

We probably won't. The only way we'd win is if we invaded another country and became friends and then maybe in 50 years they'd give us 12 points. Or we get invaded and then become friends. Why do you think that England is the only ones that give us high points half the time?

Who should we invade? I pick France.

Augmerson · 31-10-2014 6:39pm

Sorry guise it was 92, 93 and 94.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 31-10-2014 6:51pm

Deleted User wrote: »

We probably won't. The only way we'd win is if we invaded another country and became friends and then maybe in 50 years they'd give us 12 points. Or we get invaded and then become friends. Why do you think that England is the only ones that give us high points half the time?

Who should we invade? I pick France.

French armed forces would be too strong for us. Iceland is a more realistic target. I predict less than 1 month from boots on the ground to the tricolour being raised over parliament buildings in Reykjavik.

Mister Vain · 31-10-2014 6:52pm

Do we really want to win it again?

RobertKK · 31-10-2014 6:53pm

The only winning song of recent years that I really rate is Loreen and Euphoria.
Ireland needs something upto date like that, something that is quality.

Timmyctc · 31-10-2014 6:54pm

After Hours - Asking the important questions.

31-10-2014 6:56pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

French armed forces would be too strong for us. Iceland is a more realistic target. I predict less than 1 month from boots on the ground to the tricolour being raised over parliament buildings in Reykjavik.

Too cold. How about Croatia? It's meant to be lovely there.

not yet · 31-10-2014 8:56pm

We will now Mary Burrin is on the case..

31-10-2014 9:05pm

I don't see us winning for a long time but it's nothing to do with bloc voting, rather the (lack of) quality of the entries we send. Send a good singer, with a good song, and you'll likely do well.*

It's irritating that people thinking we should pull the plug just 'cause we don't win it constantly any more. Until this year Austria only won the Eurovision once and that was back in the sixties. The Netherlands failed to qualify from the semis eight years in a row and managed to finish second this year. Hell, Portugal have never finished in the top five after 40-something attempts but they still participate!

*Unless you're France. Nobody likes France anymore for some reason.

wendell borton · 31-10-2014 9:12pm

Maybe but it requires Putin continuing his meglomanical plans to reestablishing the Russian empire.

Agricola · 31-10-2014 9:20pm

I wish they'd just rebrand it the EasternEurovision and leave everyone west of Berlin out of it. It would do your head in.

131spanner · 31-10-2014 9:26pm

Nope, too much of a circle-jerk with the Eastern countries and Scandinavia.

Son Of A Vidic · 01-11-2014 1:38am

Areyouwell wrote: »

We should actually enter that song. It would be a nice two fingers to what was now become a joke.

I thought Dustin The Turkey was the perfect two fingers, for the joke of a competition the Eurovision has become. Sending him over annually would be an appropriate move imo.

wendell borton wrote: »

Maybe but it requires Putin continuing his meglomanical plans to reestablishing the Russian empire.

CT forum > > > > > >

KungPao · 01-11-2014 1:56am

If we could dig up Dana from her grave and reanimate her, then perhaps.

Will Ireland ever win Eurovision again?

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