It’s time for an “American jihad”

RobYourBuilder

"The Constitution, along with the miracle of our nation's founding and the providential history of America fighting and winning war after war against oppressive regimes, proves our manifest destiny not only to preserve our borders and safety and national character at home, but to spread around the world our love of individual freedom and insist on its reflection in every government."

Nearly 200 years later and they're still pushing the "manifest destiny" crap.

We would urge our leaders, after their service in the U.S. Senate and Congress, to seek dual citizenship in other nations, like France and Italy and Sweden and Argentina and Brazil and Germany, and work to influence those nations to adopt laws very much like our own. We might even fund our leaders' campaigns for office in these other nations."

Yes, these countries definitely need to aim to be more like America. Especially Germany, France and Sweden.

An American jihad would embrace the correct belief that if every nation on earth were governed by freely elected leaders and by our Constitution, the world would be a far better place. And an American jihad would not only hope for this outcome, but work toward it."

An 'American Jihad' actually happened in numerous South American states. The resultant puppet states weren't very free.

Full article here; http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/10/28/its-time-for-american-jihad/

Yes, it's Fox. But more on the author, Dr Keith Ablow:

He graduated from Brown University in 1983, magna cum laude, with a Bachelor of Science degree in neurosciences. He received his Doctor of Medicine degree from Johns Hopkins Medical School in 1987, and completed his psychiatry residency at the Tufts-New England Medical Center. He was Board Certified by the American Board of Psychiatry & Neurology in psychiatry in 1993 and forensic psychiatry in 1999.[4]

The good doctors credentials imply that he is at least somewhat intelligent. Yet this is what he believes. 'Murica.

corner of hells

Didn't we have our own jihad a few years ago with that Riverdance thing.

Nearly took over the world too.

0byme75341jo28

No thanks.

The One Doctor

The US used to rule the world and is now freaking out that they're losing everything. Big deal. Let 'em burn, no great loss.

super_furry

Hasn't America been pretty much doing what he's asking for, for the best part of a century? It's part of the reason that so many people want to blow them up.

BoJack Horseman

In before "Murica"

Freedom??? It's practically a police state

RobbingBandit

Thought this was a Team America 2 announcement page, AMERICA **** YEAH!!!

AllGunsBlazing

Coca cola, Disney, and McDonald's all americanised the world a very long time ago. The likes of MTV then finished the job.

My name is URL

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

The good doctors credentials imply that he is at least somewhat intelligent. Yet this is what he believes. 'Murica.

Being intelligent and bat-shit crazy aren't mutually exclusive

Skylinehead

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

In before "Murica"

'Murica.

riffmongous

What the **** does he think america has been doing pretty much since it was founded? Has to be a troll, or an escaped mental patient assuming the identity of one of his former psychiatric doctors

Son Of A Vidic

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

It’s time for an “American jihad”

And here was me thinking they've been waging a 'freedom' jihad for quite a few decades.

c_man

...seek to fund an international mercenary force for good and provide our veterans unparalleled health care.

Why not give it to all your citizens...?

Nodin

That oxycontin really fucks people up.

Nodin

c_man wrote: »

Why not give it to all your citizens...?

Communist!!!!! Kill! Kill11!!!!

Davarus Walrus

Nodin wrote: »

Communist!!!!! Kill! Kill11!!!!

You should probably head outside for a walk or something. Take a break from being an online social justice warrior.

Wompa1

Another thread about America on After Hours.

It seems to be an unhealthy obsession for many, just let g and get on with your life, you'll be a lot happier.

sabat

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

But more on the author, Dr Keith Ablow:

The good doctors credentials imply that he is at least somewhat intelligent.

If you watch The Daily Show or Colbert Report you'll see this guy Ablow featured almost weekly for the comedy gold he comes out with-this article is quite a mild demonstration of his stupidity. My guess is that he cheated in his exams or got some kind of brain injury after graduating.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=keith+ablow

RobYourBuilder

Wompa1 wrote: »

Another thread about America on After Hours.

It seems to be an unhealthy obsession for many, just let g and get on with your life, you'll be a lot happier.

A lot of people who have experienced "American Jihad" would love to do the same.

Fox News is the most popular cable news channel in America. When they stop spouting insane bollix such as this;

We would urge our leaders, after their service in the U.S. Senate and Congress, to seek dual citizenship in other nations, like France and Italy and Sweden and Argentina and Brazil and Germany, and work to influence those nations to adopt laws very much like our own

Then people will stop bashing them and Americans who share similar viewpoints.

Dr Turk Turkelton

Paging MadsL...
Massive 'Murica spill in aisle 9...

pawdee

Ye had.

Wompa1

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

A lot of people who have experienced "American Jihad" would love to do the same.

Fox News is the most popular cable news channel in America. When they stop spouting insane bollix such as this;



Then people will stop bashing them and Americans who share similar viewpoints.

How many people watch Fox News? Out of over 300 million people, how many people are actually watching it?

Fox News is popular because it's an entertainment network. Not for it's news content. Have you watched CNN and CNBC in the states lately? They are the exact same as Fox, only with a left stance. All of it is crap. Television News, Radio News and Print Media are dying here.

Out of 300 million people, Fox probably gets less than an average of 2 million viewers and that's a guess because the Nielsen ratings system that's used is complete and utter ****e...Jon Stewart gets about 2.5 million viewers. John Olivers new show which to me, is probably the closest thing to an actual news program on the air...and it's a comedy show is getting over 4 million views.

So, go ahead and write off everyone in America because a tiny percentage watch Fox News.

The Diabolical Monocle

The ass-hattery of the US and Russia's foreign strategic one-upmanship is what has much of the world in the shytter today.

Financing dictators and fuelling rebellions so they could have a port here or a border there.

Didn't matter who their ally was, dictator, lunatic, war-criminal. Long as one part of the board didn't get too red or blue.

RobYourBuilder

So, go ahead and write off everyone in America because a tiny percentage watch Fox News.

I wasn't aware that I did. Just the good doc and those that share his views.

Uncle Ruckus

Nodin

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

You should probably head outside for a walk or something. Take a break from being an online social justice warrior.

Angry over something?

PopePalpatine

I'm kinda disappointed in this thread, I was expecting something about some batshit crazy Christian fundamentalists.

YFlyer

Who is your wan?

Links234

sabat wrote: »

If you watch The Daily Show or Colbert Report you'll see this guy Ablow featured almost weekly for the comedy gold he comes out with-this article is quite a mild demonstration of his stupidity. My guess is that he cheated in his exams or got some kind of brain injury after graduating.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=keith+ablow

Yeah, this is the guy who claims Gangnam Style is a drug...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SchGl4WlwwY

He comes out with some of the whackiest, most ridiculous, off the wall bull**** you could imagine. However I don't think he's stupid, far from it in fact, he's just tapped into something that's payed off for him. He's been around for a good while, had his own Rikki Lake style chat show didn't have much of an audience, but he didn't say the same outragous nonsense that he does now, in fact he's completedly flipped on some issues. With Fox News came the ridiculous crap he's now known for, and you can see now that he's just finally found an audience so he plays up to that.

I don't think he believes any of the **** he says, he's just selling hysteria and nonsense to Fox News viewers.

MadsL

Fox...worst than Hitler Ted.

Billy86

Wompa1 wrote: »

How many people watch Fox News? Out of over 300 million people, how many people are actually watching it?

Fox News is popular because it's an entertainment network. Not for it's news content. Have you watched CNN and CNBC in the states lately? They are the exact same as Fox, only with a left stance. All of it is crap. Television News, Radio News and Print Media are dying here.

Out of 300 million people, Fox probably gets less than an average of 2 million viewers and that's a guess because the Nielsen ratings system that's used is complete and utter ****e...Jon Stewart gets about 2.5 million viewers. John Olivers new show which to me, is probably the closest thing to an actual news program on the air...and it's a comedy show is getting over 4 million views.

So, go ahead and write off everyone in America because a tiny percentage watch Fox News.

A lot of that also has to do with television news programmes being fairly redundant in the age of the internet, social media and the smartphone though. On radio the right wing nut jobs are still doing very well for themselves recently - Rush Limbaughs show has been the most popular in US commercial radio for 20 odd years apparently, averaging over 13mn listeners. Sean Hannity who is one of the poster boys of FOX News has over 12mn, and Glenn Beck who was so absolutely insane that Fox even had to dump him has well 7mn. They said traditional radio is also going the way of the Indians, especially with smartphones allowing for easy access to basically any station in the world, and podcasts allowing people to listen to whatever they want, whenever they want.

Edit: by the way of you like John Oliver's show, you should check out 'The Bugle' comedy/news podcast he does with another English comedian most Fridays.

Areyouwell

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

You should probably head outside for a walk or something. Take a break from being an online social justice warrior.

I think you need to drop the keyboard and do some deep breathing exercises.

the_dude_1

The majority of the people who posted on this thread are anti-american. It would be a good bet they have never even visited the country.

It's a great country. And in terms of freedom, Ireland is far behind.

My name is URL

the_dude_1 wrote: »

The majority of the people who posted on this thread are anti-american. It would be a good bet they have never even visited the country.

It's a great country. And in terms of freedom, Ireland is far behind.

What exactly are people in Ireland not free to do that those in the US are?

Get out of here with your bullshit

Eutow

the_dude_1 wrote: »

The majority of the people who posted on this thread are anti-american. It would be a good bet they have never even visited the country.

It's a great country. And in terms of freedom, Ireland is far behind.

Register just to post that did you? How exactly is the U.S.A. the most "free" country in the world?

sparksfly

the_dude_1 wrote: »

The majority of the people who posted on this thread are anti-american. It would be a good bet they have never even visited the country.

It's a great country. And in terms of freedom, Ireland is far behind.

The United States Bureau of the Census figures for 2012, released in September 2013, confirm that more than one out of seven people in the USA are living in poverty (defined as less than 2 US dollars a day) In 2012, 46.5 million people were living in poverty in the United States.

Using the 2 dollar a day guide, 15.5% live in poverty in the US compared to 8.3% in Iran, 5.5% in Ireland.

The Commonwealth Fund (a private U.S. foundation promoting a high performing health care system) ranked the United States last in the quality of health care among countries. In a 2013 Bloomberg ranking of nations with the most efficient health care systems, the United States ranks 46th among the 48 countries included in the study.

In the same year according to the US Office of Management and Budget, the $682 billion spent on the military was more than the combined military spending of China, Russia, the United Kingdom, Japan, France, Saudi Arabia, India, Germany, Italy and Brazil.

Yep, its a great country alright, we are far behind.

Tail Docker

"Jihad a Dream........that one day..........."

Elmer Blooker

the_dude_1 wrote: »

The majority of the people who posted on this thread are anti-american. It would be a good bet they have never even visited the country.

It's a great country. And in terms of freedom, Ireland is far behind.

The old anti-American card ..... yawn.
If you want to know what anti-Americanism is read this book.
By the way, the author served in the US Air Force in WW2 and lived his entire 87 years in the US of A!
http://www.historyisaweapon.com/zinnapeopleshistory.html

bnt

For most of its history, the USA had no real immigration controls: none until 1890. After that people from Europe had to go through Ellis Island, which wasn't a problem if you weren't a known criminal, insane, flat broke, or seriously ill. About 98% of all who landed became Americans. They basically let anyone in, and it shows.

That included a lot of Irish people - such as the ancestors on both sides of "right wing Americans" such as Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity. Both are Catholics, and Hannity is only two generations away from the Emerald Isle. Until last year, Fox News was owned by News Corp i.e. Rupert Murdoch, who has some Irish ancestry too (along with Scottish and English). So if you're looking for someone to blame for the right-wing Fox News bias, try looking a little closer to home.

K4t

super_furry wrote: »

Hasn't America been pretty much doing what he's asking for, for the best part of a century? It's part of the reason that so many people want to blow them up.

You know you're doing something right when those people want to blow you up.

The reality is we probably wouldn't even have computers or even the right to engage in this conversation today if not for the US. We owe the US and should aspire to its core ideals set out by the founding fathers.

oppenheimer1

bnt wrote: »

For most of its history, the USA had no real immigration controls: none until 1890. After that people from Europe had to go through Ellis Island, which wasn't a problem if you weren't a known criminal, insane, flat broke, or seriously ill. About 98% of all who landed became Americans. They basically let anyone in, and it shows.

That included a lot of Irish people - such as the ancestors on both sides of "right wing Americans" such as Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity. Both are Catholics, and Hannity is only two generations away from the Emerald Isle. Until last year, Fox News was owned by News Corp i.e. Rupert Murdoch, who has some Irish ancestry too (along with Scottish and English). So if you're looking for someone to blame for the right-wing Fox News bias, try looking a little closer to home.

It's a bit of a stretch to say Irish Americans are behind the rise of the right in the USA. Irish Americans are traditionally democrats.

oppenheimer1

K4t wrote: »

You know you're doing something right when those people want to blow you up.

The reality is we probably wouldn't even have computers or even the right to engage in this conversation today if not for the US. We owe the US and should aspire to its core ideals set out by the founding fathers.

That is one of the most ridiculous comments I've ever read on this site, which is a fair achievement. The reason the USA has so many enemies is because it has gone on so many wars for extra territory and resources.

porsche959

Interesting to see the hysterical reaction to The_dude_1's post above.

Actually, he is right, the US has much freer media than in Europe due to constitutional protections on freedom of speech. Maybe we should not emulate the Americans on everything, but their constitutional protections on free speech are certainly to be admired.

Most Irish people are ignorant of this because they rely on far left sources like the absurd RTE, Irish Times, Guardian, etc for their news and views.

The Americans have managed to prosecute their War on Terror for 15 years now without any of their politicians seriously suggesting they censor the media and free speech. Bill O'Reilly has interviewed Islamists on his show (granted, largely to criticise them, but still). We, pathetically, caved into the censorship brigade with our absurd Section 31 during 'the Troubles'.

I see a number of posters punting around the canard that the US has always been imperialist, that idea is garbage I'm afraid and provably so. You could make the case that the US has operated in an imperialist fashion since World War II, but even that is a debatable proposition. Well, not to the likes of Noam Chomsky and his fan club, but to more even-handed analysts, yes it is.

kowloon

K4t wrote: »

You know you're doing something right when those people want to blow you up.

The reality is we probably wouldn't even have computers or even the right to engage in this conversation today if not for the US. We owe the US and should aspire to its core ideals set out by the founding fathers.

The earliest computers pre-date the USA as an entity, as for more practical machines people like Zuse and Turing would want a word.

/pedantic mode

porsche959 wrote: »

Actually, he is right, the US has much freer media than in Europe due to constitutional protections on freedom of speech. Maybe we should not emulate the Americans on everything, but their constitutional protections on free speech are certainly to be admired.

We badly need a reform of our constitution.

Links234

porsche959 wrote: »

Most Irish people are ignorant of this because they rely on far left sources like the absurd RTE, Irish Times, Guardian, etc for their news and views.

LOL! :pac:

My name is URL

porsche959 wrote: »

Actually, he is right, the US has much freer media than in Europe

Ireland is ranked 16th in the Press Freedom Index

USA is ranked 46th

http://rsf.org/index2014/en-index2014.php

Any other claims you'd like debunked?

porsche959

kowloon wrote: »

We badly need a reform of our constitution.

Agree completely but sadly if there is one I would not be optimistic of enhanced protections for freedom of speech. The trend if anything is going the other way, we will probably copy the Brits (as we usually do) with their absurd "anti-trolling" (really, anti free speech) laws.

porsche959

My name is URL wrote: »

Ireland is ranked 16th in the Press Freedom Index

USA is ranked 46th

http://rsf.org/index2014/en-index2014.php

Any other claims you'd like debunked?

Extremely surprised by this. I would like to know more about their methodology.

My name is URL

porsche959 wrote: »

Extremely surprised by this. I would like to know more about their methodology.

It's all included there on the site, you can download their methodology. Haven't looked at it myself but Reporters Without Borders are a well respected organisation.

**** like this probably didn't help the US this year - http://www.newsweek.com/journalists-arrested-assaulted-and-teargassed-ferguson-264610

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqqp_LAVklA

Grayson

porsche959 wrote: »

We, pathetically, caved into the censorship brigade with our absurd Section 31 during 'the Troubles'.

It was hilarious watching Gerry Adams being dubbed.