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Rocket bound for Space Station explodes seconds after lift off.

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    #62
    dmc17
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    Looks like the poor buggers on the ISS won't be getting their Chinese takeaway


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    #63
    Egginacup
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    Doesn't Russia make all the rocket engines that are used by every country's space program? Maybe those sanctions are biting.


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    #64
    Wibbs
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    It looks like the failure starts early. Just after engine start it seems to drop power. I'm surprised these things don't fail more often. In the early days before they stuck people in them they were blowing up a lot. Rocketry and getting into orbit is very different engineering to say flying about in the atmosphere. The energies required are massive to get to escape velocity at 7 miles per second. You are riding a very energetic controlled explosion all the way. The Russians have a very good record with this stuff with fewer failures than NASA.

    Lapin wrote: »
    I laughed more at the commentator continuing to describe the aim of the mission even after the thing blew up.

    It looked as though he only noticed something was up (or coming back down in this case) when he looked up from his script. :pac:
    Same thing happened when the shuttle Challenger exploded. The voiceover continued for a while as if nothing happened.
    Karl Stein wrote: »
    The Russians launched a Monkey so the Americans decided to one-up and launch a Gorilla. Gorillas are also close to the size of humans so were able to use the flight controls as if they were human. It wasn't called the space race for nothing. :rolleyes:
    Not sure if joking... Nasa launched chimps alright.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #65
    Hoop66
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    Elon Musk did it.

    * is assassinated for knowing too much *


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    #66
    RobertKK
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    The only good thing is it was unmanned and no one died, but that was one costly explosion.

    Elon Musk's Space X will do a better job, no doubt.


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    #67
    SEPT 23 1989
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    It was a space race between the USSR and captured Nazi scientists


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    #68
    Beano
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    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    It was a space race between the USSR and captured Nazi scientists

    Not quite correct. It was a space race between captured nazi scientists working for the US and captured nazi scientists working for the russians. The americans just happened to capture the better scientists.


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    #69
    Hoop66
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    Beano wrote: »
    Not quite correct. It was a space race between captured nazi scientists working for the US and captured nazi scientists working for the russians. The americans just happened to capture the better scientists.

    Except the captured Nazis working for the Soviets just happened to get their one into orbit first...


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    #70
    Beano
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    Hoop66 wrote: »
    Except the captured Nazis working for the Soviets just happened to get their one into orbit first...

    True. But the americans got to the moon first and that was the real prize.


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    #71
    Hoop66
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    Beano wrote: »
    True. But the americans got to the moon first and that was the real prize.

    I'd disagree. I'd say it became the prize, once the Americans shat themselves that the goddamm commies had got into space first. Had the Soviets got to the moon in 1960, Kennedy would have been talking about "landing a man on Mars and returning him safely to the earth before the end of the decade".

    And so on...


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    #72
    endacl
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    Beano wrote: »
    True. But the americans got to the moon first and that was the real prize.

    There is no 'moon'. What all you sheeple have been looking at is an illuminati/Rothschild/lizard people hologram. It's there to justify the massive rocket developing industry. The more they crash, the more they have to build.

    :pac:


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    #73
    Beano
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    Hoop66 wrote: »
    I'd disagree. I'd say it became the prize, once the Americans shat themselves that the goddamm commies had got into space first. Had the Soviets got to the moon in 1960, Kennedy would have been talking about "landing a man on Mars and returning him safely to the earth before the end of the decade".

    And so on...

    Oh indeed. But the moon was always the next step.


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    #74
    rebel girl 15
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    Russians got their rocket up and docked with ISS - Progress lifted off from Kazakhstan 8 hours ago with 5,000 pounds of supplies


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    #75
    Lapin
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    dmc17 wrote: »
    Looks like the poor buggers on the ISS won't be getting their Chinese takeaway

    On the bright side they're getting to eat Kazakhstani take out for the next few months !
    rebel girl 15 wrote: »
    Russians got their rocket up and docked with ISS - Progress lifted off from Kazakhstan 8 hours ago with 5,000 pounds of supplies


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    #76
    Philo Beddoe
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    Beano wrote: »
    Not quite correct. It was a space race between captured nazi scientists working for the US and captured nazi scientists working for the russians. The americans just happened to capture the better scientists.

    Then why did the Russians win the space race?


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    #77
    BBDBB
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    Philo Beddoe wrote: »
    Then why did the Russians win the space race?


    Because the Russians were competing on the basis of getting a manned craft into orbit. This was largely a question of scale. Simply build bigger rockets. The Nazi scientists they captured were able to do that and that's what they focused upon.


    What they didn't anticipate or cope with was when the sneaky Americans upped the stakes on them and made the "space race" about getting a man onto the moon and returning him to earth. The Russians simply couldn't compete with the technical difficulties that created and hadn't anticipated the global media coup that created when they managed to do it.


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    #78
    Karl Stein
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    Philo Beddoe wrote: »
    Then why did the Russians win the space race?

    The clue is in the term 'space race'. It's not known as the 'moon race'.

    USSR
    First Satellite in space/orbit ✔
    First animal in space/orbit ✔
    First man in space/orbit ✔
    First space-walk ✔
    First rover on another world ✔
    First space station ✔

    USA
    First man on Moon ✔


    USA wins the space race!


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    #79
    Beano
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    Philo Beddoe wrote: »
    Then why did the Russians win the space race?

    A couple of reasons. As well as the captured german scientists the Russians had Sergei Korolev to even up the playing field with the US. There were also political considerations. Von Braun had developed a rocket capable of launching a satellite into orbit but he was prevented from using it because it was a military rocket and eisenhower was afraid of spooking the russians. So the first attempt at launching a US satellite ended in disaster as they were forced to use a civilian rocket called the vanguard that exploded when they tried to launch it. After sputnik was launched eisenhower changed his mind and allowed von braun to launch his rocket so the americans launched their first rocket 4 months after the russians. and eventually the US outstripped russian efforts witb the apollo program.


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    #80
    Elmer Blooker
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    rebel girl 15 wrote: »
    Russians got their rocket up and docked with ISS - Progress lifted off from Kazakhstan 8 hours ago with 5,000 pounds of supplies
    That was quick for a country that doesn't make anything!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkADv1vEL9A


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    #81
    nelly17
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    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Looked like some sort of failure .

    Spot on - its anti gravatational mechanisim had a malfunction


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    #82
    Harry Palmr
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    Imagine being on the ISS when the Yellowstone Park super-volcano goes off, you'd be in the only place that would be safe from the effects until you run out of food.


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    #83
    Badly Drunk Boy
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    The Russians had the first woman is space too.


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    #84
    nokia69
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    Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »
    The Russians had the first woman is space too.

    so is not really any different to sending a man into space

    its a cheap first, just for PR


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    #85
    Dempsey
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    nokia69 wrote: »
    so is not really any different to sending a man into space

    its a cheap first, just for PR

    I'm surprised they could fit the kitchen sink and the washing machine into such a small space! :pac:


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    #86
    Drakares
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    Lapin wrote: »


    Bit concerning that this can happen given the vast budgets and expertise involved in sending these rockets up to space.

    But then, given the vast number sent up over the decades, it could be said that its surprising that incidents like it don't occur more often.

    But with continual improvements in rocket science it really shouldn't be happening now.

    Fortunately this mission was unmanned.
    This is bollocks. You cannot begin to even imagine how complicated it is to put something into space. There are so many variables with absolute experts working on them, but every mission is different.

    When someone says "it's not rocket science".. They really are referring to one of the most complicated things man can do. They will figure out what went wrong and try not to do it again.


    Source: I work in a space agency.


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    #87
    nokia69
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    they were using first stage engines built by the USSR FFS

    not really state of the art modern tech


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    #88
    Scannal
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    Do we really want to know about space anyway?


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    #89
    keith16
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    Scannal wrote: »
    Do we really want to know about space anyway?

    Yes.


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    #90
    Scannal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 181 ✭✭Scannal


    keith16 wrote: »
    Yes.

    We know enough about it as it is. Let the aliens live in peace.


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    #91
    The Adversary
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    Kaputnik.


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