Westport Sea to Summit

Hurler85

Anyone know the exact distance of the first leg of the sea to summit?

Swinefluproof

http://www.westportsea2summit.ie/events-information

Hurler85

Seen that but wondering has anyone GPS'd the route for exact distance

Zzippy

Haven't done the first run leg but not sure I'd trust the official distance. They state 5k for the Croagh Patrick leg (supreme distance). I did it today and my Garmin recorded 7.44k.

stampydmonkey

Did it last year..measured just under 13k from start to car park at croagh patrick and just over 7.2k to the top and back to the car park of croagh patrick....then my battery died : (

mrs. poppins

Didn't measure run but cycle from T1 on quays to Croagh Patrick car park on Garmin was 8.8k

boysinblack

Anyone happen to be selling an entry to this ?

Hurler85

I dont think they will allow an entry to be transferred, but I could be mistaken.

Weather isnt looking too good for Saturday, could be an interesting trip down the mountain!! :eek:

Zzippy

boysinblack wrote: »

Anyone happen to be selling an entry to this ?

No transfers apparently, they are insisting on photo ID at registration too.

Hurler85 wrote: »

I dont think they will allow an entry to be transferred, but I could be mistaken.

Weather isnt looking too good for Saturday, could be an interesting trip down the mountain!! :eek:

I did it on Sat in the rain, unless you're wearing runners with zero grip you'll be fine.

Hurler85

boysinblack wrote: »

Anyone happen to be selling an entry to this ?

This might be an option...sure to be a few who dont show up

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=807286639329382

boysinblack

Hurler85 wrote: »

This might be an option...sure to be a few who dont show up

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=807286639329382

Defo going to give this a go thanks

iluvfatfrogs

Does anyone know the distance for the return cycle in the Spirit event? Notices on the website refer to both 8k & 11k.

woody1

just mapmyrun'ed it, close enough to 11k ..

iluvfatfrogs

woody1 wrote: »

just mapmyrun'ed it, close enough to 11k ..

So we go out the coast run, turn right and T-junction and straight to the reek?
And coming back we don't turn left for coast road? thats 3k further?

woody1

On the way back you cycle up to the t junction with the road to leenane, I think there's a fire station beside it , turn left and then left again to go down to the quay, its 10.83 k on map my run but you could allow a bit either way for error, the distances given are rounded off , so the cycle from the quay to the reek might be a bit more or less than 8 either way there's close to 3 k in it

iluvfatfrogs

woody1 wrote: »

On the way back you cycle up to the t junction with the road to leenane, I think there's a fire station beside it , turn left and then left again to go down to the quay, its 10.83 k on map my run but you could allow a bit either way for error, the distances given are rounded off , so the cycle from the quay to the reek might be a bit more or less than 8 either way there's close to 3 k in it

thanks woody, nice to know whats ahead of us!

stampydmonkey

Best of luck tomorrow folks. Hopefully rain holds off....

Zzippy

Brilliantly run event, really enjoyed it, but a seriously tough course. Volunteer marshals around the course were great. Legs really feeling it today. Must train a lot harder for next year!

Bawnmore_Ent.

Great event, my favourite as a package, of the 4 races I did this year. That 25% hill at the back of the Reek destroyed me. I will be back.

Bawnmore_Ent.

Anyone notice the timing issues on the splits on Sports timing. There are 4 or 5 beginners/intermediates in the top 50 that have cycle 2 around 30 minutes. The winner did that section in a 01:07.

Fianna Fowl

Bawnmore_Ent. wrote: »

Anyone notice the timing issues on the splits on Sports timing. There are 4 or 5 beginners/intermediates in the top 50 that have cycle 2 around 30 minutes. The winner did that section in a 01:07.

Looking at the results, 5 people who registered for the supreme did the spirit event. Pretty obvious that it needs to be corrected.

Great event & weekend

Bawnmore_Ent.

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Bawnmore_Ent.

If they correct, I will move up 5 places, more lovely msai points, 😎

Hurler85

I had issues with my timing...my official time was over 1minute quicker than my watch. Why was the first timing mat at the base of the first steep climb on the first run rather than at the start of the race?

Animella

Hurler85 wrote: »

I had issues with my timing...my official time was over 1minute quicker than my watch. Why was the first timing mat at the base of the first steep climb on the first run rather than at the start of the race?

Aha, that explains my much quicker than expected first run! Knocked 2.5 mins off last year and I knew I hadn't improved my running that much:-) where was the mat - at the bottom of the cattle pass? I didn't even notice.
I wonder about the transition times too - was T1 time counted in the first cycle time? Thought I would have done that leg a bit quicker.
However, it was a fantastic day, weather, organisation and craic couldn't have been any better. Well done to all involved.

iluvfatfrogs

Any chance this could be the last Sea2Summit to incorporate the reek due to the increased objections as using it in adventure races?

Or is there a chance it mightn't be used this year?

Peterx

Well at least they will always have alliteration.

Sea to Shoulder - still has a nice ring to it.

Esroh

At the moment the mountain is not under the control of any group. Ie Mayo coco or Opw so it cannot be stopped. Trying to find a solution to the responsibility of ownership has been going on for decades. Nobody in Westport is going to pull the plug on the 1000s of bed nights for S2S or GF.
There will be lots of talk about the erosion but Euros talk louder.

Peterx

Completely off topic but a €1 tourist tax on every bednight in Westport would fund a new built path from the carpark.

You would need mountain access and permission from the landowners but a very very nice alpine style path could be properly built into the mountain.

The path on Diamond Hill is a very good template for what can be done with a little thought - Ok a lot of effort and thought but it is possible.

A masters student gets their thesis on mapping and planning the path, an entrepreneurial local landowner gets a new access point and builds a nice coffee shop, a team of local builders get employment, the original path gets less use, it's a winner (if I do say so myself )

Bawnmore_Ent.

Only make the descent for the elite racers even quicker Peter the rest of us would still be bounding down with sore quads.

Tibulus

Looking for a transfer if anybody cant take part!

Seen as its sold out...

Neady83

Peterx wrote: »

Completely off topic but a €1 tourist tax on every bednight in Westport would fund a new built path from the carpark.

You would need mountain access and permission from the landowners but a very very nice alpine style path could be properly built into the mountain.

The path on Diamond Hill is a very good template for what can be done with a little thought - Ok a lot of effort and thought but it is possible.

A masters student gets their thesis on mapping and planning the path, an entrepreneurial local landowner gets a new access point and builds a nice coffee shop, a team of local builders get employment, the original path gets less use, it's a winner (if I do say so myself )

Good point Peter but I remember reading that work is ongoing to try to identify a sensitive way to maintain and manage the path on Croagh Patrick but it's more difficult that you would think: http://www.mountaineering.ie/_files/Elfyn%20Jones%20Croagh%20Patrick%20Report%20-%20May%202013.pdf

I was interested to read that it's not just recreational runners/climbers that need to be taken into account because the mountain has a historical and cultural background and pilgrims were on Croagh Patrick long before trail runners

'The religious status of the mountain also has an influence on the nature of works that may be acceptable on this mountain. The annual pilgrimage on Reek Sunday sees an estimated 30,000 individuals ascending the mountain in one day. Many of these individuals see this as a purely religious pilgrimage and regard the challenge of ascending a worn and difficult path as part of the pilgrimage and would not want to see the challenge reduced by overengineered
path works. This pilgrimage is one of Ireland’s most significant cultural events
and is reputed to date back at least 1500 years and is one of the most extraordinary surviving pilgrimages in Western Europe'

AdpRo

Would anyone happen to have a strava link to the supreme route from last year please?

RegisteredMice

AdpRo wrote: »

Would anyone happen to have a strava link to the supreme route from last year please?

+1 for this please..

stampydmonkey

https://www.strava.com/activities/216798039

Supernintento Chalmers

Anyone use a second pair of runners for the Croagh Patrick stage?
I.e. leave a pair by their bike space before the race?

woody1

dont think your allowed to leave them there, you definitely cant leave them behind you when you get back on your bike.. il have to check a race briefing from before ..
debating having a pair on the bike, either in bottle cages or on the tri-bars- this year and wearing the bike shoes for the first time..

Supernintento Chalmers

woody1 wrote: »

dont think your allowed to leave them there, you definitely cant leave them behind you when you get back on your bike.. il have to check a race briefing from before ..
debating having a pair on the bike, either in bottle cages or on the tri-bars- this year and wearing the bike shoes for the first time..

Thanks. I'm debating the same thing.
Might go the dual bottle cage behind saddle route.

Zzippy

I changed shoes last year, the bike leg is long enough and hilly enough that bike shoes make a difference. Saw some guys with runners stuck in their handlebars somehow, including the winner. I was slow enough that a backpack wasn't going to slow me down much more...

stampydmonkey

Zzippy wrote: »

I changed shoes last year, the bike leg is long enough and hilly enough that bike shoes make a difference. Saw some guys with runners stuck in their handlebars somehow, including the winner. I was slow enough that a backpack wasn't going to slow me down much more...

Yeah me too. Bit of warmth on ur back too

Supernintento Chalmers

woody1 wrote: »

dont think your allowed to leave them there, you definitely cant leave them behind you when you get back on your bike.. il have to check a race briefing from before ..
debating having a pair on the bike, either in bottle cages or on the tri-bars- this year and wearing the bike shoes for the first time..

I contacted the orgnaisers.
No issue with leaving runners at second transition, obviously you do so at your own risk, etc.

woody1

Supernintento Chalmers wrote: »

I contacted the orgnaisers.
No issue with leaving runners at second transition, obviously you do so at your own risk, etc.

thats interesting, still would mean an extra spin out there on the morning, or get someone to do it for you.. worth thinking about though.

Supernintento Chalmers

woody1 wrote: »

thats interesting, still would mean an extra spin out there on the morning, or get someone to do it for you.. worth thinking about though.

I think I'll leave the SPDs there to have them for the 35k cycle.
Then have a second pair of runners left at T1 for the final run.

iluvfatfrogs

Anyone see the compulsory race packs popping up in local shops / tesco yet?
This time last year they were everywhere

woody1

Supernintento Chalmers wrote: »

I think I'll leave the SPDs there to have them for the 35k cycle.
Then have a second pair of runners left at T1 for the final run.

doing the short race, im still debating, mostly cos i cant be bothered changing the pedals on the bike, so im probably gonna run in one pair , leave them at t1, have the second pair on the bike or left at t2, bike shoes to croagh patrick, second pair for the run up and down, back in on the bike shoes and back up the road in the runners again..
is it worth it for the short race.. probably not.. but ive done the race a load of times on flat pedals so i might do it this way for a change

for the long race id definitely have the bike shoes..

Zzippy

woody1 wrote: »

doing the short race, im still debating, mostly cos i cant be bothered changing the pedals on the bike, so im probably gonna run in one pair , leave them at t1, have the second pair on the bike or left at t2, bike shoes to croagh patrick, second pair for the run up and down, back in on the bike shoes and back up the road in the runners again..
is it worth it for the short race.. probably not.. but ive done the race a load of times on flat pedals so i might do it this way for a change

for the long race id definitely have the bike shoes..

I'm doing the short one this year too, def not going to bother with SPDs for that short and flat a cycle. Too much faffing about. Would def have them for the long race, only problem is if you can't make it up the Maum hill (:o ) you have to walk up it in SPDs...

Supernintento Chalmers

woody1 wrote: »

doing the short race, im still debating, mostly cos i cant be bothered changing the pedals on the bike, so im probably gonna run in one pair , leave them at t1, have the second pair on the bike or left at t2, bike shoes to croagh patrick, second pair for the run up and down, back in on the bike shoes and back up the road in the runners again..
is it worth it for the short race.. probably not.. but ive done the race a load of times on flat pedals so i might do it this way for a change

for the long race id definitely have the bike shoes..

I'm going to use runners on the SPD pedals for the first cycle then use SPD shoes for the second cycle.

Last year I did all the cycling on SPD pedals in runners, if I was doing that again I'd get a pair of these covers for the SPDs I think.

Davee71

I did the supreme race (long one ) last year and wore a backpack to carry my cycling shoes/ trail runners. Bit of a pain but I was glad of it at the finish as I had put a long sleeve top and waterproof jacket in and I was able to wrap up while waiting for the others in my group.

I bought a smaller back pack with a drinks bladder in it for this year as I didn't drink enough on Croagh Patrick and suffered on the rest of the event.

I wouldn't cycle a bike without cycling shoes...especially on hills

iluvfatfrogs

Received an email last week (presume everybody did), where it stated Portwest had a pouch pack which contained the compulsory pack all for €14.99.

Went into Portwest on Saturday and they didn't have a notion what i was on about. Proceeded to shoe me a pouch (empty) for €22.99!

Not sure why they go to the hassle of included the info in the circular whent he store hasn't prepared it!

Tec Diver

I did the Dingle AR in June and used cycling shoes for the bike and had my trail runners in the two bottle mounts with a short bungee. I had a camelbak for water. Worked out really well.

Eoin

AdpRo

Anyone done this as well as the killarney Adventure race? How does the cycle compare to Killarney?