Internet tax

Paco Rodriguez

http://m.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29783253

Thousands of protesters take to the streets in Budapest at the proposed introduction of an Internet tax.

Might be a nice little number for the government here. Would people support it do you think? There sure as he'll wouldn't be thousands on the streets about it anyway.

Sunnyisland

Paco Rodriguez wrote: »

http://m.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29783253

Thousands of protesters take to the streets in Budapest at the proposed introduction of an Internet tax.

Might be a nice little number for the government here. Would people support it do you think? There sure as he'll wouldn't be thousands on the streets about it anyway.

Na we probaly just protest about it through Facebook...

And here :-)

wendell borton

We'll be paying an internet tax next year, http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0717/463069-bai-public-service-broadcasting-charge/.

Mint Sauce

Last time I checked the bill from my ISP there was already tax added.

Captain Chaos

Already on the way, it's called broadcasting tax. Basically everyone has to pay it even if you just own a mobile phone, so I may as well come out of your USC.

gramar

wendell borton wrote: »

We'll be paying an internet tax next year, http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0717/463069-bai-public-service-broadcasting-charge/.

Will they be digging up the place to install meters?

Captain Chaos

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Last time I checked the bill from my ISP there was already tax added.

Did you not hear of the tax on tax tax??? You pay tax on everything at least 2 or 3 times.

munchkin_utd

wendell borton wrote: »

We'll be paying an internet tax next year, http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0717/463069-bai-public-service-broadcasting-charge/.

thats a flat rate, and replacing the tv licence which funds RTE and is just reflecting the fact that news and entertainment is now consumed in large amounts by people with ipads and computers rather than the traditional tv/ radio.

this Hungarian tax is different, and has to be viewed from the perspective of a government who has already brought laws to tax private broadcasters out of existance.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2014/jun/04/hungary-advertising
So its a clampdown on free speech and freedom of information rather than any money making exercise.

The draft law, proposed by the government of Prime Minister Viktor Orban, would levy a fee of 150 forints (£0.40; €0.50; $0.60) per gigabyte of data traffic.

Frank O. Pinion

The "broadcasting" tax can be easily avoided, by just ignoring it, like the TV license. This Hungarian internet tax is ridiculous.

I'm with Eircom.

Total downloads to date this month 687.94 GB
Total uploads to date this month 970.33 GB
Total upload/download used up to date/time 1,658.27 GB

So 1,658GB x €0.50, would cost me €829, but there will be a "cap"...

shruikan2553

Its a stupid idea but there are people on boards who would support anything from the government.

Mint Sauce

Wonder if illegal downloading has had any influence on these proposals?

munchkin_utd

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Wonder if illegal downloading has had any influence on these proposals?

knowing the record of the hungarian government over the past number of years, its got to have something to do with freedom of information.

They have already tried to put independent commercial broadcasters out of business with a punitative tax on advertising revenue (like a super VAT rate) so this move could be an attempt to make anyone thinking of broadcasting from abroad via IPTV to Hungary less attractive.

lazybones32

Irish people protest? Not friggin' likely

Ring Joe Duffy...that'll scare those fat cats!

imitation

Thats madness, the EU should intervene for this kind of thing. Most peoples broadband cap is 300gb, so thats 150 euro a month. Then you'd have industry who consume gigs in seconds, it would cripple the IT industry, its a real backwards move.

Son Of A Vidic

Paco Rodriguez wrote: »

Might be a nice little number for the government here.

Did you put on a nice, just ironed blue shirt before you posted that?

Squeedily Spooch

lazybones32 wrote: »

Irish people protest? Not friggin' likely

Ring Joe Duffy...that'll scare those fat cats!

Didn't something like 50k people protest the water charges?

catallus

If it reduces the amount of tripe on the internet then it can't be a bad thing.

Fr. Ned

gramar wrote: »

Will they be digging up the place to install meters?

If FG can find a way for their 'tax non dom' sugar daddy to profit from it, they will....

UCDVet

IT IS NOT LIKE THE INTERNET IS FREE! WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. DUH!

Oh well. I can safely say I will not be paying this broadcasting nonsense. I might be alone in my protect, and I don't expect anyone else to care, but this death by a thousand paper-cuts is too much for me.

Would you rather have ~20% of 40 or ~25% of 0?

UCDVet

catallus wrote: »

If it reduces the amount of tripe on the internet then it can't be a bad thing.

It won't have any affect on the content of the internet. That's the beauty of the internet.

The_Valeyard

Still think air tax is next

sashafierce

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UCDVet

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Still think air tax is next

Sadly, you're probably right.

Areyouwell

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Still think air tax is next

To be followed by a 'thought tax'.

catallus

UCDVet wrote: »

It won't have any affect on the content of the internet. That's the beauty of the internet.

It's simple economics. It will make things much better.

My name is URL

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

I'm with Eircom.

Total downloads to date this month 687.94 GB

Do you run a business or just really like porn?

Fr. Ned

My name is URL wrote: »

Do you run a business or just really like porn?

Just on that...
Does anyone know how to find out how many GB have been downloaded through a sky router per month?

Sierra 117

sashafierce wrote: »

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Followed by a dreaming tax. Though I hear you'll get €5 off your bill if you have a nightmare.

Frank O. Pinion

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

The "broadcasting" tax can be easily avoided, by just ignoring it, like the TV license.

Weren't they planning to hand this over to Revenue? If they do, you'd have a hard time ignoring it.

mikeym

Introduce a complaining tax

zl1whqvjs75cdy

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

The "broadcasting" tax can be easily avoided, by just ignoring it, like the TV license. This Hungarian internet tax is ridiculous.

I'm with Eircom.

Total downloads to date this month 687.94 GB
Total uploads to date this month 970.33 GB
Total upload/download used up to date/time 1,658.27 GB

So 1,658GB x €0.50, would cost me €829, but there will be a "cap"...

That's a lot of Internet.

kowloon

catallus wrote: »

If it reduces the amount of tripe on the internet then it can't be a bad thing.

I take it that's your €0.02.

I'll get my coat...

Paco Rodriguez

Paco Rodriguez wrote: »

http://m.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29783253

Thousands of protesters take to the streets in Budapest at the proposed introduction of an Internet tax.

Might be a nice little number for the government here. Would people support it do you think? There sure as he'll wouldn't be thousands on the streets about it anyway.

Ah here, we're paying taxes on absolutely fúcking everything and here we are trying to come up with more taxes. Are you insane? :mad: We are already paying VAT on services sure as well as the impending Broadcasting charge. Phil Hogan, kindly get off Boards please!

Guy:Incognito

UCDVet wrote: »

IT IS NOT LIKE THE INTERNET IS FREE! WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. DUH!

Oh well. I can safely say I will not be paying this broadcasting nonsense. I might be alone in my protect, and I don't expect anyone else to care, but this death by a thousand paper-cuts is too much for me.

Would you rather have ~20% of 40 or ~25% of 0?

You can use the money your saving by not having to pay the TV licence anymore. Everyone's a winner :-)

Lalealea

Paco Rodriguez wrote: »

http://m.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29783253

Thousands of protesters take to the streets in Budapest at the proposed introduction of an Internet tax.

Might be a nice little number for the government here. Would people support it do you think? There sure as he'll wouldn't be thousands on the streets about it anyway.

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mopey

we already pay tax on our bill, tbh im waiting on the hair tax and a tax for not having hair, and lets not forget the beard/moustache levy

darkpagandeath

They could not introduce that here and maintain wanting to be the EUs hub for IT/Internet related companies.

Crann na Beatha

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Frank O. Pinion

My name is URL wrote: »

Do you run a business or just really like porn?

I go down to a bay to meet pirates. 1080p Blu-ray remux movies, 20GB+ files. 720p and 1080p episodes of TV series. A Blu-ray rip of a full season of The Walking Dead is 50GB+.

VinLieger

I will not be paying rabbittes internet tax that is designed for one purpose only to prop up the shambles that is RTE and continue it's ridiculous over payed culture. Marion Finucane does about 8 hours work a week and gets paid 295,000 for it.

I dont watch RTE apart for a couple of hours a year during rugby autumn internationsla and the 6 nations and i'm expected to pay €160 for that just cus I can access the Internet and might possibly stumble upon RTE.ie every once in a blue moon?

Egginacup

shruikan2553 wrote: »

Its a stupid idea but there are people on boards who would support anything from the government.

hear hear. When we start getting charged for the air we breathe they'll be out saying "look we had it good during the boom years and fcuked it up and now we have to pay. Get over it. Why should oxygen be free???"

Fr. Ned

VinLieger wrote: »

I will not be paying rabbittes internet tax that is designed for one purpose only to prop up the shambles that is RTE and continue it's ridiculous over payed culture. Marion Finucane does about 8 hours work a week and gets paid 295,000 for it.

Are you proposing to break the law and not pay a legal tax/charge brought in by this government???

darkpagandeath

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Are you proposing to break the law and not pay a legal tax/charge brought in by this government???

If they want to fund RTE make it a subscription service. People already pay for sky or upc which have to give RTE money to re broadcast there content so your effectively being taxed twice.

munchkin_utd

darkpagandeath wrote: »

If they want to fund RTE make it a subscription service. People already pay for sky or upc which have to give RTE money to re broadcast there content so your effectively being taxed twice.

well.......

what DO you want?

Proper high income tax, or low income tax plus a load of indirect taxes (like is the case currently)?

Mr. CooL ICE

With the amount that I download and stream, being taxed at those rates would mean I wouldn’t have any money left for food. You could say that I would be…

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Squeedily Spooch

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Are you proposing to break the law and not pay a legal tax/charge brought in by this government???

Yes. I've never paid a cent towards the tv licence as I'm not paying for a service I don't use. The broadcast charge is just to line RTE's pockets, nothing more.

Fr. Ned

Squeedily Spooch wrote: »

Yes. I've never paid a cent towards the tv licence as I'm not paying for a service I don't use. The broadcast charge is just to line RTE's pockets, nothing more.

I'm with you there all the way.
I was replying to a poster though who is on the water charges threads slagging off people who are protesting and telling them to obey the laws of the land.
Must be only some laws though......

PopePalpatine

Oh look, it's Orban being a wanker again, and the only one here stating their support of him has a history of trolling.

VinLieger

munchkin_utd wrote: »

well.......

what DO you want?

Proper high income tax, or low income tax plus a load of indirect taxes (like is the case currently)?

I want to not be taxed for a luxury service that I don't use. Tax me for whatever neccessary services you want that contribute and are neccessary for the day to day running of the country but I do not use RTE apart from maybe 10-12 hours a year so I won't be paying a tax to prop it up.

Give me a subscription option fair enough, I might consider it, but a mandatory across the board charge for it is ridiculous.

VinLieger

Fr. Ned wrote: »

I'm with you there all the way.
I was replying to a poster though who is on the water charges threads slagging off people who are protesting and telling them to obey the laws of the land.
Must be only some laws though......

You see I agree with paying for water, it is a vital service that everyone HAS to use to get through their life, and we should also pay for what we use, I don't use RTE therefore i shouldnt have to pay for it especially since it is what I would consider a luxury, would you call RTE as vital a service to the country as our water infrastructure?

darkpagandeath

VinLieger wrote: »

I want to not be taxed for a luxury service that I don't use. Tax me for whatever neccessary services you want that contribute and are neccessary for the day to day running of the country but I do not use RTE apart from maybe 10-12 hours a year so I won't be paying a tax to prop it up.

Give me a subscription option fair enough, I might consider it, but a mandatory across the board charge for it is ridiculous.

Now now we all know stuff like this does not go on in there, They need the sub to create quality programming.

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/rte-racks-up-366k-bill-for-stars-wardrobes-30697900.html