**Spoilers** Series 8, Episode 10 - "Forest of the Night"

pixelburp

Bit of a mystery this one, the trailer doesn't really give much away, and doesn't look like it's a standard 'monster of the week' episode. Could be good, bad, who knows. It's the last episode until the final two-parter so I wonder if it'll lead into the finale at all, or instead exist as a purely standalone episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoGzozaBsUo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIPKTVp95gs

Mr Bloat

At a guess I'd say that it will be standalone but will bring Danny and The Doctor into some kind of stand off or understanding which will have ramifications in the finale. I guess that it will also introduce a character who could be a potential future companion or people will be brought somewhere in the Tardis, much as other episodes have done.

Regarding these Tardis travellers, I was thinking recently that I don't ever remember so many people travelling in the Tardis in a season of Doctor Who. It seems that every week there is someone along for the ride or being delivered/rescued in it. I wonder will there be some event in the finale to cause all these travellers to be brought together, either by Missy or to help combat Missy?

Mr.Saturn

Jesus, we're into the finale two-parter next week. How'd that happen?

pixelburp

One episode less than previous seasons of course, but yeah, time flies when you're enjoying a show. Uhm, or not going by some of the more divisive comments

Lord TSC

Wow, I am really hating the writing in this episode so far. Characters are all talking like idiots...

Un Croissant

What's with the girls hands when she's running?

Never mind.

Stark

"Kill the children, Doctor. They'll only be sad otherwise".

Busi_Girl08

This week: Meh.
Next Week: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!!!!

ixoy

Worst episode since "Fear Her"?

Lord TSC

I liked the premise. But the script was atrocious imo. The dialogue was making everyone out to be idiots, from Clara's "Ah, just let everyone die", the kid's "Ah I've a nut allergy" which went no where, the way they were talking to each other and then the girl just magically appears at the end.

Whoever wrote the episode....it was a disaster imo

Busi_Girl08

I'm sorry, but what 10 year old child would pass the chance to go to fecking space? I mean seriously.

Manach

I did not think it was too bad. It was more the Dr. as a Wizard with the magic wand saving the girl in the red hood in the magical forest. So more for the kids than anything else.

One gripe, it was not trees but "The biggest interdimensional cross rip" that caused the Tunguska Blast of 1909, as per Ghostbusters

Blue_Dabadee

I got goosebumps watching trailer for next weeks episode.

Angron

The ending with "Ah they'll all forget anyway" made it kinda feel that the whole episode didn't really serve a point (beyond showing Missy again maybe).

ixoy wrote: »

Worst episode since "Fear Her"?

Morale of the story: Don't do stories that have tiny things talking through little girls. It'll be bollocks.

Stark

Stark wrote: »

"Kill the children, Doctor. They'll only be sad otherwise".

rofl. Yeah, that was totally wtf.

The ending was pretty obvious as soon as they had the flameproof thing coming in. Hey guys there's a giant solar flare coming and the planet's now covered in flameproof trees. We're fcuked

The girl at the end magically appearing and standing there grinning was also wtf. What did that have to do with anything. Could she at least not have said something like "hey sorry about that I heard your phonecall and decided to come home" or ... something
And also is a government really gonna stop chemical thinging trees just because they got phonecalls from a kid?

I DID like that they tried to address "the screwdriver can't fix everything it's not a magic wand" and the "monster" of the day was something the screwdriver couldn't analyse

Wibbs

Actually I was impressed by one thing, they used real wolves. They almost never do cause they're a complete nightmare to handle. Even tigers are easier. So usually a husky in makeup is dropped in. Game of thrones and the like.

The writing was well dodgy though. "Fear her" did come to mind alright. Though Capaldi still hung on to be fair.

Yes!
When I saw the wolves in the bushes with the eyes I was a bit, oh they'll use CGI I suppose... then they used real ones. That was cool

The little girl was a very good little actress though I thought. Didn't overdo it like they might at that age. That Ruby wan was edging towards the "a bit much" line


This thing about missy would want to make up for it though

Axwell

Awful episode in a pretty much average series. Hopefully this storry about Missy and the finale makes up for it.

WomanSkirtFan8

Axwell wrote: »

Awful episode in a pretty much average series. Hopefully this storry about Missy and the finale makes up for it.

It may very well do by the looks of the trailer! As for the episode itself, I personally thought it was pretty good actually. An excellent pro-environmental conservation message too as to why trees are so important.

Really looking forward to the finale now! Lets hope its a great one!

CastorTroy

The thing that I couldn't ignore through the whole episode was Where was the entire population of London?

And are the fairy things rebuilding the world as well?

CastorTroy

CastorTroy wrote: »

The thing that I couldn't ignore through the whole episode was Where was the entire population of London?

govt told them at the start to stay indoors cos of the firepaths

IvySlayer

More Doctor

Less Danny and Clara show

WomanSkirtFan8

IvySlayer wrote: »

More Doctor

Less Danny and Clara show

Absolutely agree! We need to see more of the doctor, not clara.

Un Croissant

More Clara.

BuffyBot

Well it was always going to be hard to live up to last week's episode and this one really didn't. One of the weaker episodes this series...it really should of been called "Filler of the Night".

The only good thing about it was the trailer for next week. The finale looks awesome.

Doctor DooM

ixoy wrote: »

Worst episode since "Fear Her"?

I found it slightly less "AH COME ON" than Victory of the Daleks. None of the bad moments were quite as bad as disarming a bomb with love...

That's still not saying much. Let a bunch of kids die because a companion says so? Not question the fact she'd let a bunch of kids die when last week you're suspicious when she was doing her best to save everyone and couldn't? Er, no.

Frank Lee Midere

Doctor DooM wrote: »

I found it slightly less "AH COME ON" than Victory of the Daleks. None of the bad moments were quite as bad as disarming a bomb with love...

That's still not saying much. Let a bunch of kids die because a companion says so? Not question the fact she'd let a bunch of kids die when last week you're suspicious when she was doing her best to save everyone and couldn't? Er, no.

But the doctor is suspicious of her anyway. She did well he said last week, goodness had nothing to do with it.

I like Clara. She isn't a normal companion though

CastorTroy

With her round face

ebbsy

I enjoyed it. This whole series has been very good, miles better than the Smith era, but then again Capaldi can actually act, which always helps. Ten episodes gone already, it has flown by.

Next week looks like a cracker as well.

tommy2bad

Staller episode, something to fill in time before the finaly or slow the pace before the final climax if you prefer.
It was a good episode, not Flatline good but in it's own right it was good. Shakespeare riffed and about a dozen fairy tails, not to mention don't look now. The ending came a bit soon but wasn't as bad as kill the moon for it's 'just wrap this up now' ness. Liked the story and the kids, liked the way they moved Danny on from scared and hesitant to a born leader without making it some heroic act.
Didn't like the way this could just as easily have been any show, their was no need for it to be Dr Who at all. any generic lead could have done what little the Dr did here or Clara for that matter. It struck me as though they retrofitted a script onto Dr Who rather than writing a Dr Who script.

First WTF? moment was in the peek at next week. Even allowing for snips being deliberately misleading this one is a puzzle. Clara's a sleeper agent or even worse Missie? Cybermen? I mean cybermen? haven't they been done to death?

Angron

To be fair, I don't think the Cybermen have been done quite to death as much as the Daleks in the revived series.

ebbsy

Angron wrote: »

To be fair, I don't think the Cybermen have been done quite to death as much as the Daleks in the revived series.

True, they just have not been done great.

tommy2bad

@Angron, fair point, if it had been Daleks I would concider skipping it. I wonder if we will get a 'sick' cyberman?

SimonTemplar

This episode was really poor. The only positives are the visuals (London Forest looked great) and the acting from the regulars. Aside from that, the whole thing seemed very amateurish with major plot holes. So, everyone just forgets about the trees at the end?! What about video footage? What about Nelson's column lying in pieces in Trafalgar Sq or most of London Zoo's animals roaming the streets? The the subplot about the girl's missing sister made no sense at all. How did she suddenly appear in the bush at the end?

I am very forgiving of the craziness of some of Doctor Who's plots (except perhaps the magic golden arrow earlier in the season) but the suspension of disbelieve at least has to be plausible, which I don't believe was the case here. About 15 minutes into the episode, I said to my friend that the set up is great and I hope the payoff doesn't disappoint. Sadly, it disappointed big time. This is the worst episode in the season by a mile, and one of the worst of NuWho.

Next week looks amazing though

CastorTroy

SimonTemplar wrote: »

This episode was really poor. The only positives are the visuals (London Forest looked great) and the acting from the regulars. Aside from that, the whole thing seemed very amateurish with major plot holes. So, everyone just forgets about the trees at the end?! What about video footage? What about Nelson's column lying in pieces in Trafalgar Sq or most of London Zoo's animals roaming the streets? The the subplot about the girl's missing sister made no sense at all. How did she suddenly appear in the bush at the end?

She was playing Ultimate Hide and Seek, until the pixies gave away her hiding place.

Was actually watching the episode today where Rose's dad died and realised how often they use the whole "it'll be like it never happened" or "humans have a great ability to forget"

Un Croissant

I do often think 'God it's weird to think that everyone knows about this stuff' because usually there is a cover up or something. But then I remember 'nope, amnesia powder sprinkles across the globe'

FunLover18

Not a fan of that episode either. Capaldi was goo but the kids were annoying and I also thought they could have done with more extras. It's London for Christ's sake and the only people wandering around were the main characters. Anyway as someone mentioned earlier it was definitely one for the kids and I always enjoy seeing Jenna onscreen so can't complain too much

smacl

Visually appealing, but the story was pretty awful. Also the tardis seems to be a bit too much of an open house in this series, rather than any kind of guarded secret place. If they'd managed a better ending, and not had the wee girl waving her hands around quite so much, it could have been a decent episode. Like Kill the moon though, the ending was pretty desperate.

Production was great, nothing wrong with the acting, but the writing was abysmal.

bnt

Anyone here been to London? Clara, Mr. Pink & the kids start at the Natural History Museum in South Kensington, while the Doctor lands in Trafalgar Square. Over two miles apart on foot, not a trivial walk for a bunch of schoolkids, but they gloss over it. You'd think the BBC would get London right ...

Das Kitty

bnt wrote: »

Anyone here been to London? Clara, Mr. Pink & the kids start at the Natural History Museum in South Kensington, while the Doctor lands in Trafalgar Square. Over two miles apart on foot, not a trivial walk for a bunch of schoolkids, but they gloss over it. You'd think the BBC would get London right ...

2 miles is a big walk now? My 4 year old walks that in a normal day.

I didn't think much of the script this week. A forest calling down a sun flair? Did the Doctor get a knock on the head?

FunLover18

bnt wrote: »

Anyone here been to London? Clara, Mr. Pink & the kids start at the Natural History Museum in South Kensington, while the Doctor lands in Trafalgar Square. Over two miles apart on foot, not a trivial walk for a bunch of schoolkids, but they gloss over it. You'd think the BBC would get London right ...

The lack of any other London citizens walking around, wondering what was going on bothered me more

bnt

Das Kitty wrote: »

2 miles is a big walk now? My 4 year old walks that in a normal day.

Don't forget the bloody great big forest in the way ..!

smacl

FunLover18 wrote: »

The lack of any other London citizens walking around, wondering what was going on bothered me more

Maybe there was a sale on in Top Shop..

flazio

bnt wrote: »

Anyone here been to London? Clara, Mr. Pink & the kids start at the Natural History Museum in South Kensington, while the Doctor lands in Trafalgar Square. Over two miles apart on foot, not a trivial walk for a bunch of schoolkids, but they gloss over it. You'd think the BBC would get London right ...

Well Doctor Who is based in Cardiff these days so... Anyway I didn't think that episode was all that bad, remember Maebh was on medication for mental illness and her lack of medication caused her to act strange. No means a classic but certainly not the weakest of the year.

Antar Bolaeisk

Das Kitty wrote: »

2 miles is a big walk now? My 4 year old walks that in a normal day.

I didn't think much of the script this week. A forest calling down a sun flair? Did the Doctor get a knock on the head?

You possibly did, the trees were protecting the Earth from the sun flare, not causing it

Didn't think it was too bad, just a bit kiddyish.

Antar Bolaeisk

Antar Bolaeisk wrote: »

You possibly did, the trees were protecting the Earth from the sun flare, not causing it
/QUOTE]
he hypothesised that the trees were causing it before they found out it was ok

Das Kitty

Antar Bolaeisk wrote: »

You possibly did, the trees were protecting the Earth from the sun flare, not causing it

Didn't think it was too bad, just a bit kiddyish.

Well, yes. That was obvious to even an idiot like me. The Doctor couldn't seem to figure it out though.

Sonics2k

I basically tuned out of that entire episode.

Started off grand with a cool idea, Capaldi getting into the swing of it from the start.
The middle was just scattered and all over and it seems to me that a lot of this series is more about the Doctor not being helpful rather than actually saving the world.

Ending was another silly cop out. Magical fairy dust to give them all amnesia. :rolleyes:

Lastly. Sod Danny bloody Pink. I am so sick of that awful character. "I was a soldier y'know."

Oh stuff it, you cannot compare yourself to the Doctor so stupidly so often, see how much this man has done and still think you're better than him. Sooner Clara is gone the sooner bloody Danny Pink will be gone. Jackass.

FunLover18

Sonics2k wrote: »

Oh stuff it, you cannot compare yourself to the Doctor so stupidly so often, see how much this man has done and still think you're better than him. Sooner Clara is gone the sooner bloody Danny Pink will be gone. Jackass.

But … but, the sooner Clara is gone, the sooner Jenna Coleman is gone



Me likey Jenna

Angron

Good, I can't stand her any more, and would dearly like her to bugger off.

Un Croissant

Angron wrote: »

Good, I can't stand her any more, and would dearly like her to bugger off.

Enough of this heresy!!