2014 Autumn Internationals

Teferi

Wales squad announced



Most obvious person left out is Adam Jones. It will be interesting to see if that is him done or if he has a chance of coming back into the reckoning in February. At 95 test caps it would be disappointing for him not to get the 100.

sydthebeat

No Rhys Patchell either......

former legend

Still no sign of Patchell.

Eli Walker omitted too, I have no idea how he's playing at the moment but he always looked like such a massive talent.

Has James Hook vanished off the face of the earth? Edit: no, he's just playing for Gloucester. Well, same thing I suppose.

JacquesDeLad

Shouldn't the thread be called Welsh Team for the Autumn Internationals 2014?

It's misleading click bait for people who couldn't give a **** about Wales.

WTO

JacquesDeLad wrote: »

Shouldn't the thread be called Welsh Team for the Autumn Internationals 2014?

It's misleading click bait for people who couldn't give a **** about Wales.

Steady on. I'm sure you'll get over losing 2s of your life. In due course someone will post the other teams (NZ, Aust, SA, Eng etc). There's always a general discussion thread for these things.

On another note, Teferi, any idea who will be screening these matches Sky? BBC? BT?

former legend

WTO wrote: »

On another note, Teferi, any idea who will be screening these matches Sky? BBC? BT?

BBC will be showing the Wales and Scotland games, RTE and Sky will cover the Ireland games and Sky will show the England games.

Think Sky are showing France and Italy games too.
Edit: yes, they are, but some of the France and Italy games will be red button only

Teferi

JacquesDeLad wrote: »

Shouldn't the thread be called Welsh Team for the Autumn Internationals 2014?

It's misleading click bait for people who couldn't give a **** about Wales.

It's more a general discussion thread for the forthcoming AI's.

JacquesDeLad

Teferi wrote: »

It's more a general discussion thread for the forthcoming AI's.

It's generally about Wales.

Níl Scrum V é seo.

WTO

Teferi wrote: »

It's more a general discussion thread for the forthcoming AI's.

It should be interesting. Aside from seeing how Ireland get on, I think it's Cotter's first run with the Scots, and for the neutral those matches involving Eng & SANZAR are pretty juicy fixtures. Can Wales actually beat a SH team...? Throw in Argentina, and also Samoa, and it's always good viewing. It's really the last run out between the hemispheres before the RWC, so lots of "psychological markers" to put down.

nipps

JacquesDeLad wrote: »

It's generally about Wales.

Níl Scrum V é seo.

At the moment yes, because thats the only squad posted so far. Its clearly going to become about the Autumn Internationals as a whole when more squads are announced.

postitnote

Oh FFS then Jacques:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/29685717

Edinburgh lock Grant Gilchrist has been named captain of Scotland's 33-man squad for the autumn Tests against Argentina, New Zealand and Tonga.

Scotland squad:

Forwards: Adam Ashe (Glasgow Warriors), Johnnie Beattie (Castres), Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors), Blair Cowan, Geoff Cross (both London Irish), Alasdair Dickinson, Ross Ford (both Edinburgh), Chris Fusaro (Glasgow Warriors), Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh, capt), Robert Harley, Jonny Gray (both Glasgow Warriors), Richie Gray (Castres), Scott Lawson (Newcastle Falcons), Kieran Low (London Irish), Euan Murray, Gordon Reid (both Glasgow Warriors) Alasdair Strokosch (USA Perpignan), Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors).

Backs: Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors), Chris Cusiter (Sale Sharks), Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors), Dougie Fife, Tom Heathcote (both Edinburgh), Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors), Greig Laidlaw (Gloucester), Sean Lamont, Sean Maitland, Finn Russell, Henry Pyrgos, Tommy Seymour (all Glasgow Warriors), Duncan Taylor (Saracens), Tim Visser (Edinburgh), Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors).


Gilchrist, 24, captained Scotland twice on their summer tour - against Argentina and South Africa.



There, now we have 2 squads posted.

justsomebloke

JacquesDeLad wrote: »

Shouldn't the thread be called Welsh Team for the Autumn Internationals 2014?

It's misleading click bait for people who couldn't give a **** about Wales.

Less of the crap please. This is a general thread for non-Ireland Autumn international news. It just happened that Wales was the first topic on it.

postitnote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/29685373

Record Test points-scorer Dan Carter is included a 34-man New Zealand squad for their tour of the northern hemisphere.

The 32-year-old took a six-month sabbatical from the sport in November and then broke his leg in August.

Sonny Bill Williams is also included after less than a full game since his return to union following two seasons in Australia's National Rugby League.

New Zealand tour squad:

Backs: Israel Dagg, Ben Smith, Charles Piutau, Cory Jane, Julian Savea, Malakai Fekitoa, Conrad Smith, Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Dan Carter, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Cruden, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Augustine Pulu.

Forwards: Kieran Read, Richie McCaw (captain), Sam Cane, Jerome Kaino, Liam Messam, Victor Vito, Patrick Tuipulotu, Brodie Retallick, Jeremy Thrush, Luke Romano, Sam Whitelock, Ben Franks, Owen Franks, Charlie Faumuina, Joe Moody, Wyatt Crockett, Dane Coles, Keven Mealamu, Nathan Harris.

Quin_Dub

Teferi wrote: »

Wales squad announced


Most obvious person left out is Adam Jones. It will be interesting to see if that is him done or if he has a chance of coming back into the reckoning in February. At 95 test caps it would be disappointing for him not to get the 100.

Can't see Jones getting back in barring injuries to others..

All he ever really brought was Scrummaging , he does/did little else around the field.. He used to be worth carrying on the basis of his scrum dominance , but since the change in the engagement laws his impact there is massively reduced and as a result the deficiencies in the rest of his game are no longer worth carrying...

Pity , he seems like a nice guy and was a super scrummager in his time...but I don't think hitting the 100 caps in going to happen for him...

croket

More squads :

Namibia (v Germany 29/10; v Canada 7/11; v French Barbarians 14/11; v Portugal 22/11)
Hookers : Torsten van Jaarsveld (Free State Cheetahs, South Africa), Neil Rautenbach (Western Province, South Africa), Rathony Becker (Western Suburbs)
Props : Franklin Bertolini, Jaco Engels (both United), Johnny Redelinghuys, André Schlechter (both Wanderers), Casper Viviers (Saint Nazaire, France)
Locks : Tjiuee Uanivi (Brive, France), Morné Blom, Nico Esterhuyse (both Wanderers)
Back row : Jacques Burger (captain - Saracens, England), Rohan Kitshoff (Western Province, South Africa), PJ van Lill (Dax, France), Tinus du Plessis (Wanderers), Thomasua Forbes (Western Suburbs)
Scrum halves : Eniell Buitendag (Wanderers), Ryan de la Harpe (Flyde, England)
Fly halves : Shaun Kaizemi (Western Suburbs), Theuns Kotzé (Bourg-en-Bresse, France)
Centres : JC Greyling (Old Wesley, Ireland), Johan Deysel (Leopards, South Africa), Darryl de la Harpe (Western Suburbs), David Philander (Spotwood United, New Zealand)
Wingers : Danie Dames (Griquas, South Africa), Malcolm Moore, Jonathan Tromp (both Wanderers)
Fullbacks : Chrysander Botha (Exeter Chiefs, England), Russel van Wyk (University of Namibia)

Fiji (v France 8/11; v Wales 15/11; v USA 22/11)
Hookers : Peni Ravai (Greater Sydney Rams, Australia), Talemaitoga Tuapati (Southland, New Zealand), Viliame Veikoso (Suva)
Props : Campese Ma'afu (Nottingham, England), Jerry Yanuyanutawa (Glasgow Warriors, Scotland), Manasa Saulo (RCM Timisoara, Romania), Isei Colati (Nevers, France), Taniela Koroi (Wellington, New Zealand)
Locks : Leone Nakarawa (Glasgow Warriors, Scotland), Apisalome Ratuniyarawa (Agen, France), Tevita Cavubati (Tasman, New Zealand), Nemia Soqeta (Biarritz, France)
Backrow : Akapusi Qera (captain - Montpellier, France), Malakai Ravulo (Farul Constanta, Romania), Dominiko Waqaniburotu (Brive, France), Masi Matadigo (Lyon, France), Nemani Nagusa (Tasman, New Zealand)
Scrumhalves : Nemia Kenatale (Farul Constanta, Romania), Nikola Matawalu (Glasgow Warriors, Scotland), Henry Seniloli (Benetton Treviso, Italy)
Flyhalves : Jonetani Ralulu (Farul Constanta, Romania), Josh Matavesi (Ospreys, Wales)
Centres : Vereniki Goneva (Leicester Tigers, England), Nemani Nadolo (NEC Green Rockets, Japan), Levani Botia (La Rochelle, France)
Wingers : Timoci Nagusa (Montpellier, France), Asaeli Tikoirotuma (Harlequins, England), Watisoni Votu (Perpignan, France), Alipate Ratini (Grenoble, France)
Fullback : Meuisela Talebula (Bordeaux-Bègles, France)

Italy (v Samoa 8/11; v Argentina 15/11; v South Africa 22/11)
Hookers : Leonardo Ghiraldini (Leicester Tigers, England), Andrea Manici (Zebre)
Props : Martin Castrogiovanni (Toulon, France), Matías Agüero, Dario Chistolini (both Zebre), Alberto De Marchi (Sale Sharks, England)
Locks : Marco Bortolami, Quintin Geldenhuys, George Biagi (all Zebre), Joshua Furno (Newcastle Falcons, England)
Backrow : Sergio Parisse (captain - Stade Français, France), Alessandro Zanni, Simone Favaro, Francesco Minto (all Benetton Treviso), Robert Barbieri (Leicester Tigers, England), Samuela Vunisa (Zebre)
Scrumhalves : Edoardo Gori (Benetton Treviso), Guglielmo Palazzani (Zebre)
Flyhalves : Luciano Orquera (Zebre), Tommaso Allan (Perpignan, France)
Centres : Gonzalo Garcia, Kelly Haimona (both Zebre), Michele Campagnaro, Lucas Morisi (both Benetton Treviso)
Wingers : Giulio Toniolatti, Leonardo Sarto (both Zebre), Simone Ragusi (Benetton Treviso)
Fullbacks : Andrea Masi (Wasps, England), Luke McLean (Sale Sharks, England)

Tonga (v Georgia 8/11; v USA 15/11; v Scotland 22/11)
Hookers : Aleki Lutui (Gloucester, England), Elvis Taione (Exeter Chiefs, England), Paul Ngauamo (Oyonnax, France)
Props : Sona Taumalolo (Racing-Metro, France), Sila Puafisi (Gloucester, England), Tevita Mailau (Stade Montois, France), Halani Aulika (London Irish, England), Taione Vea (London Welsh, England)
Locks : Hale T-Pole (Havelock SC, Sri Lanka), Lua Lokotui (Béziers, France), Joe Tuineau (Lyon, France), Lisiate Fa'aoso (Bayonne, France)
Backrow : Nili Latu (captain - NEC Green Rockets, Japan), Viliami Ma'afu (Oyonnax, France), Viliami Fihaki (Sale Sharks, England), Maama Vaipulu (Counties Manukau, New Zealand)
Scrumhalves : Taniela Moa (Pau, France), Thomas Palu (Doncaster Knights, England), Sonatane Takulua (Northland, New Zealand)
Flyhalves : Kurt Morath (Kobuta Spears, Japan), Latiume Fosita (Northland, New Zealand), Liueli Simote (Tupou College)
Centres : Siale Piutau (Yamaha Jubilo, Japan), Sione Piukala (Perpignan, France)
Wingers : Fetu'u Vainikolo (Exeter Chiefs, England), Otulea Katoa (Southland, New Zealand), Daniel Kilioni (Grenoble, France)
Fullbacks : Vunga Lilo (Tarbes, France), David Halaifonua (Hofoa)

sydneybound

Right what I'd really like to know is out of the Fiji squad which players did not want to include themselves... I presume there's a few other players playing in France & England that don't want to make themselves eligible??

Fiji (v France 8/11; v Wales 15/11; v USA 22/11)
Hookers : Peni Ravai (Greater Sydney Rams, Australia), Talemaitoga Tuapati (Southland, New Zealand), Viliame Veikoso (Suva)
Props : Campese Ma'afu (Nottingham, England), Jerry Yanuyanutawa (Glasgow Warriors, Scotland), Manasa Saulo (RCM Timisoara, Romania), Isei Colati (Nevers, France), Taniela Koroi (Wellington, New Zealand)
Locks : Leone Nakarawa (Glasgow Warriors, Scotland), Apisalome Ratuniyarawa (Agen, France), Tevita Cavubati (Tasman, New Zealand), Nemia Soqeta (Biarritz, France)
Backrow : Akapusi Qera (captain - Montpellier, France), Malakai Ravulo (Farul Constanta, Romania), Dominiko Waqaniburotu (Brive, France), Masi Matadigo (Lyon, France), Nemani Nagusa (Tasman, New Zealand)
Scrumhalves : Nemia Kenatale (Farul Constanta, Romania), Nikola Matawalu (Glasgow Warriors, Scotland), Henry Seniloli (Benetton Treviso, Italy)
Flyhalves : Jonetani Ralulu (Farul Constanta, Romania), Josh Matavesi (Ospreys, Wales)
Centres : Vereniki Goneva (Leicester Tigers, England), Nemani Nadolo (NEC Green Rockets, Japan), Levani Botia (La Rochelle, France)
Wingers : Timoci Nagusa (Montpellier, France), Asaeli Tikoirotuma (Harlequins, England), Watisoni Votu (Perpignan, France), Alipate Ratini (Grenoble, France)
Fullback : Meuisela Talebula (Bordeaux-Bègles, France)

croket

sydneybound wrote: »

Right what I'd really like to know is out of the Fiji squad which players did not want to include themselves... I presume there's a few other players playing in France & England that don't want to make themselves eligible??

I don't see a lot of misses.
Rokoduguni wants play for England, Nayacalevu is one of the 4 reserve players, Nalaga looks unfit since the begin of the season, while Koyamaibole (34 years old), Bobo (38) and Bai (35) are old now.

former legend

Vulivuli and Murimurivalu from the top 14 anyway, but I have no idea if they're fit, not making themselves available or just not picked.

Hagz

Rokoduguni and Yarde could be a potentially awesome wing combination. I hope we get to see it at some point this season. Add in Tuilagi and Mike Brown and England's back-line is starting to really come together.

sydneybound

croket wrote: »

Rokoduguni wants play for England.

From BBC Sport saying the Fijian Rugby Union were not in touch in over a year, crazy when you think how talented the lad is.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/29704288

Any sign of the Georgian squad Croket? As they are our new enemy in all! ;-)

croket

former legend wrote: »

Vulivuli and Murimurivalu from the top 14 anyway, but I have no idea if they're fit, not making themselves available or just not picked.

I think they are not picked...
Nagusa is a very good player while Ratini scored 8 tries in 8 games. The only surprising choice is Watisoni Votu from Perpignan...

2 more squads :

Samoa (v Italy 8/11; v Canada 14/11; v England 22/11)
Hookers : Ti'i Paulo (Clermont, France), Ole Avei (Bordeaux-Bègles, France)
Props : Sakaria Taulafo (Stade Français, France), Logovi'i Mulipola (Leicester Tigers, England), Anthony Perenise (Bristol, England), James Johnston (Saracens, England), Albert Anae (Benetton Treviso, Italy)
Locks : Dan Leo (London Irish, England), Kane Thompson (Newcastle Falcons, England), Filo Paulo (Cardiff Blues, Wales), Fa'atiga Lemalu (Fukuoka Sanix Blues, Japan)
Backrow : Ofisa Trevinarus (London Irish, England), Joe Tekori (Toulouse, France), Maurie Fa'asavalu (Oyonnax, France), Taiasina Tuifu'a (Bordeaux-Bègles, France), Jack Lam (Bristol, England), Piula Fa'asalele (Castres, France), TJ Ioane (Otago, New Zealand)
Scrumhalves : Kahn Fotuali'i (Northamton Saints, England), Pele Cowley (Auckland Development, New Zealand), Jack Taulapapa (Wellington Development, New Zealand)
Flyhalves : Tusi Pisi (Suntory Sungoliath, Japan), Michael Stanley (Counties Manukau, New Zealand)
Centres : George Pisi (Northampton Saints, England), Johnny Leota (Sale Sharks, England), Alapati Leiua (Wasps, England), Rey Lee-Lo (Counties Manukau, New Zealand)
Wingers : David Lemi (captain - Bristol, England), Ken Pisi (Northampton Saints, England), Alofa Alofa (La Rochelle, France)
Fullbacks : Fa'atoina Autagavaia (Nevers, France), Ahsee Tuala (Counties Manukau, New Zealand)

Japan (v Maori All Blacks 1/11 & 8/11; v Romania 15/11; v Georgia 23/11)
Hookers : Takeshi Kizu (Kobelco Steelers), Hiroki Yuhara (Toshiba Brave Lupus), Ryuhei Arita (Coca Cola West Red Sparks)
Props : Kensuke Hatakeyama, Shinnosuke Kakinaga (both Suntory Sungoliath), Hiroshi Yama****a (Kobelco Steelers), Masataka Mikami (Toshiba Brave Lupus), Keita Inagaki (Panasonic Wild Knights)
Locks : Hitoshi Ono (Toshiba Brave Lupus), Luke Thompson (Kintetsu Liners), Shinya Makabe (Suntory Sungoliath), Shoji Ito (Kobelco Steelers), Kazuhiko Usami (Canon Eagles)
Backrow : Michael Leitch (captain - Toshiba Brave Lupus), Hendrick Tui (Suntory Sungoliath), Ryuta Yasui (Kobelco Steelers), Hayden Hopgood (Kamaishi Seawaves), Amanaki Lelei Mafi (NTT Shining Arcs)
Scrumhalves : Atsushi Hiwasa (Suntory Sungoliath), Yuku Yatomi (Yamaha Jubilo)
Flyhalves : Kosei Ono (Suntory Sungoliath), Harumichi Tatekawa (Kubota Spears)
Centres : Yuu Tamura (NEC Green Rockets), Male Sa'u (Yamaha Jubilo), Kotaro Matsushima (Suntory Sungoliath), Ryohei Yamanaka (Kobelco Steelers)
Wingers : Toshiaki Hirose (Toshiba Brave Lupus), Yoshikazu Fujita (Waseda University), Akihito Yamada (Panasonic Wild Knights), Karne Hesketh (Fukuoka Sanix Blues)
Fullbacks : Ayumu Goromaru (Yamaha Jubilo)

sydneybound wrote: »

Any sign of the Georgian squad Croket? As they are our new enemy in all! ;-)

Not yet, I think the squad will be announced about 1 week before the first test.
Here are my predictions

Props : Davit Zirakashvili (Clermont), Levan Chilachava (Toulon), Mikheil Nariashvili (Montpellier), Vasil Kakovin (Toulouse) if fit or Zurab Zhvania (Stade Français) + Davit Kubriashvili (Stade Français) or Lekso Kaulashvili (La Rochelle) if the coach wants a 5th prop
Hookers : Shalva Mamukashvili (Sale Sharks), Simon Maisuradze (Valence d'Agen - french 3d division)
Locks : Konstantin Mikautadze (Toulon), Levan Datunashvili (Aurillac - ProD2), Giorgi Nemsadze (Tarbes - ProD2) and maybe Vakhtang Maisuradze (Albi - ProD2)
Backrow : Viktor Kolelishvili (Clermont), Dimitri Basilaia (Perpignan - ProD2), Lasha Lomidze (Beziers - ProD2), Giga Tkhilaishvili (on trial with Leicester Tigers), Shalva Sutiashvili (Massy - ProD2) and possibly Beka Bitsadze (Locomotive Tbilisi)
Scrumhalves : Giorgi Begadze (Kochebi RC) and Giorgi Rokhvadze (Aia Kutaisi) or Vazha Khutsishvili (Kharebi Rustavi)
Flyhalves : Lasha Khmaladze (Lelo Saracens), Lasha Malaguradze (Bagnères - french 3d division)
Centres : Merab Sharikadze (Aurillac - ProD2), Davit Kacharava (Enisey-STM, Russia), Revaz Gigauri (Montluçon - french 3d division)
Wingers : Tamaz Mchedlidze (Agen - ProD2), Giorgi Shkinin (Locomotive Tbilisi), Sandro Todua (Lelo Saracens) + Irakli Machkhaneli (Armazi) or Muraz Giorgadze (Armazi)
Fullbacks : Beka Tsiklauri (Locomotive Tbilisi) and Merab Kvirikashvili (Montluçon - french 3d division) or Irakli Kiasashvili (Lelo Saracens)

Maybe 1 or 2 suprises in addition to these names

WTO

croket wrote: »

Not yet, I think the squad will be announced about 1 week before the first test.
Here are my predictions

Props : Davit Zirakashvili (Clermont), Levan Chilachava (Toulon), Mikheil Nariashvili (Montpellier), Vasil Kakovin (Toulouse) if fit or Zurab Zhvania (Stade Français) + Davit Kubriashvili (Stade Français) or Lekso Kaulashvili (La Rochelle) if the coach wants a 5th prop
Hookers : Shalva Mamukashvili (Sale Sharks), Simon Maisuradze (Valence d'Agen - french 3d division)
Locks : Konstantin Mikautadze (Toulon), Levan Datunashvili (Aurillac - ProD2), Giorgi Nemsadze (Tarbes - ProD2) and maybe Vakhtang Maisuradze (Albi - ProD2)
Backrow : Viktor Kolelishvili (Clermont), Dimitri Basilaia (Perpignan - ProD2), Lasha Lomidze (Beziers - ProD2), Giga Tkhilaishvili (on trial with Leicester Tigers), Shalva Sutiashvili (Massy - ProD2) and possibly Beka Bitsadze (Locomotive Tbilisi)
Scrumhalves : Giorgi Begadze (Kochebi RC) and Giorgi Rokhvadze (Aia Kutaisi) or Vazha Khutsishvili (Kharebi Rustavi)
Flyhalves : Lasha Khmaladze (Lelo Saracens), Lasha Malaguradze (Bagnères - french 3d division)
Centres : Merab Sharikadze (Aurillac - ProD2), Davit Kacharava (Enisey-STM, Russia), Revaz Gigauri (Montluçon - french 3d division)
Wingers : Tamaz Mchedlidze (Agen - ProD2), Giorgi Shkinin (Locomotive Tbilisi), Sandro Todua (Lelo Saracens) + Irakli Machkhaneli (Armazi) or Muraz Giorgadze (Armazi)
Fullbacks : Beka Tsiklauri (Locomotive Tbilisi) and Merab Kvirikashvili (Montluçon - french 3d division) or Irakli Kiasashvili (Lelo Saracens)

Maybe 1 or 2 suprises in addition to these names

Will you do the write-up for the Irish match? I'd be pretty clueless about the Georgians, really only know that Gorgodze chap, and it'd make the game more interesting. I'd imagine I'd not be the only fella who wouldn't be so up on the play about your team.

croket

WTO wrote: »

Will you do the write-up for the Irish match? I'd be pretty clueless about the Georgians, really only know that Gorgodze chap, and it'd make the game more interesting. I'd imagine I'd not be the only fella who wouldn't be so up on the play about your team.

Gorgodze's injury is a very big blow for Georgia, the team is not the same with him and whithout him...

For the Irish game, I would pick

1. Vasil Kakovin (Toulouse) if fit or Mikheil Nariashvili (Montpellier)
2. Shalva Mamukashvili (Sale Sharks)
3. Davit Zirakashvili (Clermont-Auvergne)
4. Konstantin Mikautadze (Toulon)
5. Levan Datunashvili (Aurillac)
6. Viktor Kolelishvili (Clermont-Auvergne)
7. Lasha Lomidze (Béziers) or Giga Tkhilaishvili (Leicester Tigers - on trial)
8. Dimitri Basilaia (Perpignan)
9. Giorgi Begadze (Kochebi)
10. Lasha Khmaladze (Lelo Saracens)
11. Giorgi Shkinin (Locomotive) or Sandro Todua (Lelo Saracens)
12. Merab Sharikadze (Aurillac)
13. Davit Kacharava (Enisey-STM)
14. Tamaz Mchedlidze (Agen)
15. Beka Tsiklauri (Locomotive)

bench : Simon Maisuradze (Bagnères), Mikheil Nariashvili or Zurab Zhvania (Stade Français), Levan Chilachava (Toulon), Giorgi Nemsadze (Tarbes), Giga Tkhilaishvili or Lasha Lomidze
Giorgi Rokhvadze (Aia Kutaisi), Lasha Malaguradze (Bagnères), Sandro Todua or Giorgi Shkinin or Revaz Gigauri (Montluçon)

Tim Robbins

Irish injured 15

1. Cian Healy
2. Damien Varley
3. Martin Moore
4. Dan Touhy
5. Donnacha Ryan
6. Iain Henderson
7. Sean O'Brien
8. Jordi Murphy
9.
10.
11. Andrew Trimble
12. McFadden
13. Luke Fitzgerald / Luke Marshall
14. Earls
15. David Kearney

Just need an injured set of half backs and then it is a decent team.

WTO

Tim Robbins wrote: »

Irish injured 15

1. Cian Healy
2. Damien Varley
3. Martin Moore
4. Dan Touhy
5. Donnacha Ryan
6. Iain Henderson
7. Sean O'Brien
8. Jordi Murphy
9.
10.
11. Andrew Trimble
12. McFadden
13. Luke Fitzgerald / Luke Marshall
14. Earls
15. David Kearney

Just need an injured set of half backs and then it is a decent team.

Are you tempting fate?

Fireball07

On paper, the Fijian & Samoan squads both look pretty decent.

former legend

Manu Tuilagi ruled out of England squad. Big blow.

arthur daly

Should he a goodn

JacquesDeLad

I retract my earlier statement.

Molester Stallone II

I like how boards is racist towards a certain Japanese player

Hagz

Molester Stallone II wrote: »

I like how boards is racist towards a certain Japanese player

Now that's a thinker.

croket

Barbarians (v Australia 1/11; v Leicester Tigers 4/11)
Hookers : James Parsons (North Harbour & New Zealand), Mahonri Schwalger (Counties Manukau & Samoa)
Props : Coenie Oosthuizen (Free State Cheetahs & South Africa), Matt Stevens (Natal Sharks & England), Thomas du Toit (Natal Sharks & South Africa), Angus Ta'avao (Taranaki & New Zealand)
Locks : Michael Rhodes (Western Province & South Africa), Matias Alemanno (La Tablada & Argentina), Dominic Bird (Canterbury & New Zealand), Alastair Kellock (Glasgow Warriors & Scotland)
Backrow : Adam Thomson (Canon Eagles & New Zealand), Matt Todd (Canterbury & New Zealand), Steve Luatua (Auckland & New Zealand), Heinrich Brüssow (NTT Docomo Red Hurricanes & South Africa), Jacques Botes (Natal Sharks & South Africa)

Scrumhalves : Tomás Cubelli (Belgrano & Argentina), Sarel Pretorius (Free State Cheetahs & South Africa), Fumiaki Tanaka (Panasonic Wild Knights & Japan)
Flyhalves : Colin Slade (Canterbury & New Zealand), Marnitz Boshoff (Golden Lions & South Africa)
Centres : Juan de Jongh (Western Province & South Africa), Francis Saili (Auckland & New Zealand)
Wingers : Joaquin Tuculet (Grenoble & Argentina), Patrick Osborne (Canterbury & New Zealand), Frank Halai (Counties Manukau & New Zealand), Nick Cummins (Coca Cola West Red Sparks & Australia)
Fullbacks : Tim Nanai-Williams (Counties Manukau & New Zealand)

croket

Agentina (v Scotland 8/11; v Italy 15/11; v France 22/11)
Hookers : Agustin Creevy (captain - Worcester Warriors, England), Matias Cortese (Liceo Naval), Santiago Iglesias (Tucuman Universitario)
Props : Matias Ayerza (Leicester Tigers, England), Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro (Lyon, France), Ramiro Herrera (Castres, France), Lucas Noguera Paz (Lince RC)
Locks : Tomás Lavanini (Racing-Metro, France), Matías Alemanno (La Tablada), Juan Cruz Guillemaín (Stade Français, France), Guido Petti (San Isidro Club)
Backrow : Juan Martín Fernández Lobbe (Toulon, France), Juan Manuel Leguizamón (Lyon, France), Leonardo Senatore (Worcester Warriors, England), Benjamín Macome (Bayonne, France), Rodrigo Báez (Liceo Naval)

Scrumhalves : Martín Landajo (CASI), Tomás Cubelli (Belgrano)
Flyhalves : Nicolás Sánchez (Toulon, France), Santiago González Iglesias (Alumni)
Centres : Juan Martín Hernández (unattached), Marcelo Bosch (Saracens, England), Jerónimo de la Fuente (Duendes RC), Matías Moroni (CUBA)
Wingers : Horacio Agulla (Bath, England), Lucas González Amorosino (Cardiff Blues), Juan Imhoff (Racing-Metro, France), Manuel Montero (Pucara)
Fullbacks : Joaquín Tuculet (Grenoble, France), Santiago Cordero (Regatas)

sydneybound

croket wrote: »

Agentina (v Scotland 8/11; v Italy 15/11; v France 22/11)

This should be three interesting games. They should beat Scotland & Italy even away from home and hope they could beat France although it maybe unlikely. The squad will be knackered by that point bearing in mind the rugby championship had just finished.

Yeah_Right

Molester Stallone II wrote: »

I like how boards is racist towards a certain Japanese player

Huh??

Speaking of the Japanese team; I see Tanaka isn't in it. I'm surprised by that as I thought he was a very good player (from what I saw of him for the Highlanders). I see he is in the Barbarians squad though.

Kiwi_knock

Australia's Squad for games against the Barbarians (1/11), Wales(8/11), France(15/11), Ireland(22/11), and England(29/11).

Forwards (18)

Props: Ben Alexander, Tetera Faulkner, Sekope Kepu, Benn Robinson, James Slipper
Hookers: Saia Fainga'a, James Hanson, Josh Mann-Rea
Locks: Sam Carter, James Horwill, Luke Jones, Rob Simmons, Will Skelton
Backrow: Scott Higginbotham, Matt Hodgson, Michael Hooper (Captain), Ben McCalman, Sean McMahon

Backs (15)

Scrum Halves: Will Genia, Nick Phipps, Nic White
Out Halves: Quade Cooper, Bernard Foley
Centres: Kyle Godwin, Tevita Kuridrani, Christian Lealiifano, Matt Toomua
Back 3: Adam Ashley-Cooper, Tom English, Israel Folau, Rob Horne, Henry Speight, Joe Tomane

Only 33 players for 5 games, they will be hoping they don't pick up too many injuries. All 33 of them should see gametime especially with a game against the Barbarians. Speight should finally pull on the gold jersey, they will hope he solves the winger crisis they have undergone since the departure of Digby. I hope Godwin and McMahon get a good amount of gametime, two very promising youngsters. It is hard to know what Australia will turn up. There could be loving running rugby or there could be loads of aimless kicking.

part time punk

Grr, hate the Ticketmaster website. Anyway just wondering what poeple would expect the turnout to be for the Georgia game? Seems to be more blocks sold out than I'd have thought. Thinking of bringing my rugby mad 6 year old daughter to the game, full Ireland kit and all .
But if it's likely to be 40 thousand or so there it might just be too crowded. Cheers

croket

Romania (v USA 8/11; v Japan 15/11; v Canada 22/11)
Hookers : Andrei Radoi (Ealing Trailfinders, England), Otar Turashvili (Farul Constanta)
Props : Constantin Pristavita (CSM Baia Mare), Mihaita Lazar (Castres, France), Horatiu Pungea (Lyon, France), Ion Paulica (Perpignan, France), Andrei Ursache (Carcassonne, France)
Locks : Marius Sirbe (Blagnac, France), Valentin Poparlan (RCM Timisoara), Alin Coste (Carcassonne, France), Marius Antonescu (Tarbes, France)
Backrow : Stelian Burcea (RCM Timisoara), Mihai Macovei (Massy, France), Ovidiu Tonita (Aix En Provence, France), Vlad Nistor (Castres, France), Daniel Carpo (RCM Timisoara)

Scrumhalves : Florin Surugiu (CSM Bucuresti), Grigoras Diaconescu (Steaua Bucuresti)
Flyhalves : Valentin Calafeteanu (RCM Timisoara), Dorin Manole (Orthez, France)
Centres : Csaba Gal (CSM Baia Mare), Florin Vlaicu (Farul Constanta), Robert Dascalu (Steaua Bucuresti), Andrei Ilie (Farul Constanta)
Wingers : Ionut Botezatu (CSM Baia Mare), Madalin Lemnaru (RCM Timisoara), Robert Neagu (Farul Constanta)
Fullback : Catalin Fercu (Saracens, England)

sydthebeat

part time punk wrote: »

Grr, hate the Ticketmaster website. Anyway just wondering what poeple would expect the turnout to be for the Georgia game? Seems to be more blocks sold out than I'd have thought. Thinking of bringing my rugby mad 6 year old daughter to the game, full Ireland kit and all .
But if it's likely to be 40 thousand or so there it might just be too crowded. Cheers

not at all.... ive had my kids at games in the aviva and the crowd has never been and issue.

get there a little early, say 3/4 hr... and wait till the vast majority have gone.
its a 2:30 game so darkness after to get to DART etc also wont be an issue.

former legend

part time punk wrote: »

Grr, hate the Ticketmaster website. Anyway just wondering what poeple would expect the turnout to be for the Georgia game? Seems to be more blocks sold out than I'd have thought. Thinking of bringing my rugby mad 6 year old daughter to the game, full Ireland kit and all .
But if it's likely to be 40 thousand or so there it might just be too crowded. Cheers

A good number of those tickets sold were bundled with tickets for the South Africa and Australia games, e.g. I got tickets for all three because it was only about a tenner extra to go to the Georgia game compared to buying SA and Australia individually, with a much better choice of seats.

I'll go to the Georgia game but if something comes up and I miss it, I won't freak out; I think a lot of people will be in the same boat so I would expect "tickets sold" and actual attendance to be quite different, so I'd say fire away.

As sydthebeat says, the Aviva is a lot less claustrophobic even when full than the old Lansdowne was.

Swiwi.

postitnote wrote: »

New Zealand tour squad:

Backs: Israel Dagg, Ben Smith, Charles Piutau, Cory Jane, Julian Savea, Malakai Fekitoa, Conrad Smith, Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Dan Carter, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Cruden, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Augustine Pulu.

Forwards: Kieran Read, Richie McCaw (captain), Sam Cane, Jerome Kaino, Liam Messam, Victor Vito, Patrick Tuipulotu, Brodie Retallick, Jeremy Thrush, Luke Romano, Sam Whitelock, Ben Franks, Owen Franks, Charlie Faumuina, Joe Moody, Wyatt Crockett, Dane Coles, Keven Mealamu, Nathan Harris.

The main talking points really are
- Slade missing out to Carter. It's only a talking point really because Carter is perennially injured.
- Pulu in for the injured Kerr-Barlow, which I don't think too many Kiwis are crying about
- Vito ahead of Luatua, with which I agree. I would like to see him get a full 80 at No. 8
- Romano brought straight back in, probably at the expense of Bird. Good ol' Jeremy Thrush is getting an extended run in black. I kind of admire him, he's never going to be world class, but he's plugged away faithfully for a bit now, and getting his reward. Rather suspect he'll miss out on the big prize of RWC selection though

Anyone else disappointed NZ not heading to the Aviva?

croket

England :
Forwards

Joe Marler (Harlequins), Matt Mullan (Wasps), Kieran Brookes (Newcastle Falcons), David Wilson (Bath Rugby), Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints), Rob Webber (Bath Rugby), Dave Attwood (Bath Rugby), George Kruis (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Calum Clark (Northampton Saints), James Haskell (Wasps), Ben Morgan (Gloucester Rugby), Chris Robshaw (Harlequins, captain), Billy Vunipola (Saracens), Tom Wood (Northampton Saints)

Backs

Danny Care (Harlequins), Lee Dickson (Northampton Saints), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Bath Rugby), Stephen Myler (Northampton Saints), Brad Barritt (Saracens), Luther Burrell (Northampton Saints), Kyle Eastmond (Bath Rugby), Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby), Billy Twelvetrees (Gloucester Rugby), Mike Brown (Harlequins), Alex Goode (Saracens), Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Semesa Rokoduguni (Bath Rugby), Marland Yarde (Harlequins)

sydthebeat

Swiwi. wrote: »

...

Anyone else disappointed NZ not heading to the Aviva?

not really... wounds are still too raw

sydthebeat

croket wrote: »

England :
Backs

Danny Care (Harlequins), Lee Dickson (Northampton Saints), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Bath Rugby), Stephen Myler (Northampton Saints), Brad Barritt (Saracens), Luther Burrell (Northampton Saints), Kyle Eastmond (Bath Rugby), Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby), Billy Twelvetrees (Gloucester Rugby), Mike Brown (Harlequins), Alex Goode (Saracens), Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Semesa Rokoduguni (Bath Rugby), Marland Yarde (Harlequins)

very light in back up 10's
any need to Myler to be in there?

English Lurker

sydthebeat wrote: »

very light in back up 10's
any need to Myler to be in there?

3 10s is light?

Myler's been preferred to both Cipriani and Burns. Mild bone of contention for most England fans. Well, the Cipriani bit anyway.

ThisRegard

What's up with Ashton, injured, rest while others are given a chance, out of general favour?

Journeyman_1

Swiwi. wrote: »

Anyone else disappointed NZ not heading to the Aviva?

Yes, the atmosphere would be fantastic after the last game. We'd likely get thumped though. Im not at all confident for Ireland going into this series

Morf

English Lurker wrote: »

3 10s is light?

Myler's been preferred to both Cipriani and Burns. Mild bone of contention for most England fans. Well, the Cipriani bit anyway.

Isn't Cipriani and his demeanour quite against the team humility that Lancaster was keen to promote for a long time?

croket

USA (v. All Blacks 1/11; v Romania 8/11; v Tonga 15/11; v Fiji 21/11)
Hookers : Tom Coolican (Sydney Stars, Australia), Phil Thiel (Life Rugby)
Props : Eric Fry (Newcastle Falcons, England), Mate Moeakiola (Castanet, France), Benjamin Tarr (Souths RC, Australia), Olive Kilifi (Seattle Saracens), Angus MacLellan (Davenport University), Nick Wallace (Glendale Raptors)
Locks : Samu Manoa (Northampton Saints, England), Greg Peterson (North Harbour Rays, Australia), Hayden Smith (Saracens, England), Tai Tuisamoa (London Scottish, England), John Cullen (Seattle Saracens)
Backrow : Scott LaValla (Stade Français, France), Cameron Dolan (Northampton Saints, England), Todd Clever (NTT Shining Arcs, Japan), John Quill (Dolphin RFC), Danny Barrett (Men's Eagles Sevens), Louis Stanfill (Seattle Saracens), Kyle Sumsion (Brigham Young University), Matt Trouville (Seattle Saracens)

Scrumhalves : Mike Petri (NYAC)
Flyhalves : Shalom Suniula (Seattle Saracens), Troy Hall (NYAC)
Centres : Thretton Palamo (Saracens, England), Andrew Suniula (New York Old Blue), Seamus Kelly (unattached), Folau Niua (Men's Eagles Sevens)
Wingers : Blaine Scully (Leicester Tigers, England), Tim Maupin (Trinity College, Ireland), Brett Thompson (Edinburgh Rugby, Scotland), Taku Ngwenya (Biarritz Olympique, France), Tim Stanfill (Seattle Saracens)
Fullbacks : Chris Wyles (Saracens, England), Adam Siddall (New York Old Blue)

following players are unavailable for games against Romania, Tonga and Fiji
Cameron Dolan, Eric Fry, Samu Manoa, Blaine Scully, Hayden Smith, Chris Wyles

English Lurker

ThisRegard wrote: »

What's up with Ashton, injured, rest while others are given a chance, out of general favour?

Probably out of favour. He's certainly fit and Lancaster doesn't really do rest.

Morf wrote: »

Isn't Cipriani and his demeanour quite against the team humility that Lancaster was keen to promote for a long time?

As far as anyone call tell, Cipriani has worked really hard the last couple of years on having the right demeanour and being the right guy. He went on tour to New Zealand, if there were bad vibes there, it was kept under wraps. Maybe there's something going on where we can't see, but publicly, he shouldn't be against that.

Dubliner28

Slightly off topic of game talk, but heading to the SA game. Not a major/regular game goer more TV, but where's the best place to go for a pint close to the ground. Searson's still popular?