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Teen Feels Bad His Bragging Over Teacher-Threesome Got Them Arrested

  • 16-10-2014 12:52am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭


    The high school junior who allegedly had a threesome with two of his teachers is overcome with guilt after he says his bragging ruined their lives.

    The unnamed Louisiana teen, now 17, made the mistake of talking about his sexual conquest with English teachers Rachel Respess, 24, and Shelley Dufresne, 32, and the news soon found its way to school administrators, who informed the police.

    His grandfather told the Daily Mail that the boy never thought he was endangering the future and families of the two teachers.

    His grandfather said,

    "He is really down about it right now. All boys that age want to brag about what they are doing. He didn’t expect it would come to this."

    Respess and married mother-of-three Dufresne had sex with the boy at the former’s apartment following a football game on Sept. 12.

    They posted $7,000 bonds after being arrested and are currently on unpaid leave as they await trial.

    His grandfather added,

    "He feels really bad. These women have families and he knows how terrible it is for them. He knows they will never be able to teach again and could very well go to prison.

    He just wishes the whole thing had never happened. It’s a shocking thing — a real shock for all of us — when you have teachers who should be educating doing this instead."

    Dufresne, the boy’s 11th grade English teacher at Destrehan High School, faces a separate charge for having sex with the teen in an ongoing affair.

    She is only allowed to leave her home for mental health counseling, doctors appointments and to attend church.

    A hearing has been set for the two teachers on Nov. 17.

    They could go to jail for as many as 17-and-a-half years if convicted.

    The age of consent is 17 in Louisiana, but the student was 16 at the time and it’s illegal for a teacher to have sex with a student under the age of 20, anyway.

    http://elitedaily.com/news/world/teen-feels-bad-bragging-teacher-threesome-arrested/795558/

    If this were my son I would be extremely disappointed...

    That he went mouthing off about it and fecked it up for himself.

    LOL at the English teacher being allowed to leave the house to attend church!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Shelley Dufresne,
    Hopefully her dad left his rock hammer in the cell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    Hopefully her dad left his rock hammer in the cell.

    No flies on you. Didn't pick up on that until you mentioned it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 Mantis1234


    Well the teachers shouldn't have ****ed a kid. Just imagine if the genders were reversed.

    "She feels really bad. These men have families and she knows how terrible it is for them. She knows they will never be able to teach again and could very well go to prison." Can you imagine the reaction to that statement from the feminists?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Just checking we're all cool with that English teacher who ran off to France with his 15 year old student too, and some of the BBC old lads who were involved with underage teens and not younger kids, yeah?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭salamanca22


    If convicted (why does the article say they did have sex with him, have they already been convicted?) the teachers by definition of law raped them statutorily. They are in a position of trust and abused that trust if found guilty. The boy has nothing to feel sorry for and the teachers deserve what they get should they be found guilty.


    When something horrible happens like what is being alleged here then there needs to be action taken. People who abuse trust like that need to be dealt with.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    Mantis1234 wrote: »
    Well the teachers shouldn't have ****ed a kid. Just imagine if the genders were reversed.

    "She feels really bad. These men have families and she knows how terrible it is for them. She knows they will never be able to teach again and could very well go to prison." Can you imagine the reaction to that statement from the feminists?

    The lad was hardly traumatised about the event. He was bragging about it to his pals. His only regret seems to be that they got in trouble.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    Lol why would he feel bad that two adults broke the law and their position of trust?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Just checking we're all cool with that English teacher who ran off to France with his 15 year old student too, and some of the BBC old lads who were involved with underage teens and not younger kids, yeah?

    Completely different situations. These two women could be facing 17.5 years in jail, whilst it's likely that the 'victim' will be bragging about it long after that. I'm all for equality when dealing with male or female "victims" of statutory, but in this case, it seems like the only real victims were the families. A revocation of the twos teaching licenses would suffice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    The lad was hardly traumatised about the event. He was bragging about it to his pals. His only regret seems to be that they got in trouble.

    Way to miss the point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    Lol why would he feel bad that two adults broke the law and their position of trust?

    No more threesomes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 Mantis1234


    The lad was hardly traumatised about the event. He was bragging about it to his pals. His only regret seems to be that they got in trouble.
    Well a 16 year old girl having sex with 2 male teachers may not be traumatised by it either, but people's reactions would be completely different.
    Rape is rape, and it has consequences. The teachers are at fault here, they should have known better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭TheBrinch


    Id say the lad was well up for it and the teachers, although in the wrong, shouldn't be convicted. I could understand them never being able to teach again but prison seems a bit much


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭salamanca22


    In the end of the day even if the boy wanted it and is not traumatised they still broke the law if convicted.

    Think of it this way. A drug dealer breaks the law by selling drugs to someone. Now that person who they sold the drugs to may not be affected negatively by it but the dealer still broke the law and needs to be dealt with.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    No more threesomes.

    I actually lold. But whatever my position on the teachers, I know this kid will be hailed as a hero and have the reputation of being the guy who had a threesome with his teachers. That alone will probably peak other girls curiousity at college into wondering "what's so special about this guy?...guess it's time to find out"...and from that, I have a feeling this won't be the end of his threesomes lol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 231 ✭✭Minjor


    Sting needs to write a follow up tune for this situation. Don't stand so close to three perhaps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    I actually lold. But whatever my position on the teachers, I know this kid will be hailed as a hero and have the reputation of being the guy who had a threesome with his teachers. That alone will probably peak other girls curiousity at college into wondering "what's so special about this guy?...guess it's time to find out"...and from that, I have a feeling this won't be the end of his threesomes lol.

    I reckon similar happened here. The first teacher took a shine to him, then told the other one about how he gave her a good knobbing and she decided that she wanted a shot at the title herself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Dufresne is hot! That little ****er!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    I reckon similar happened here. The first teacher took a shine to him, then told the other one about how he gave her a good knobbing and she decided that she wanted a shot at the title herself.

    Imagine being the husband though. Finding out your wife cheated on you with a kid she teaches. Brutal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    <Obligatory south park nice reference >


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Macavity.


    The guy must have won the genetic lottery in terms of looks.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Completely different situations. These two women could be facing 17.5 years in jail, whilst it's likely that the 'victim' will be bragging about it long after that. I'm all for equality when dealing with male or female "victims" of statutory, but in this case, it seems like the only real victims were the families. A revocation of the twos teaching licenses would suffice.
    Male teacher consensually sleeps with 15 year old female student. Female teachers consensually sleep with 16 year old male student. Yep. Completely different...

    He got five and a half years, four and a half of which were for sexual activity with the 15 year old. So would you have preferred him to go free like with the women in this story?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Male teacher consensually sleeps with 15 year old female student. Female teachers consensually sleep with 16 year old male student. Yep. Completely different...

    He got five and a half year, four and a half of which were for sexual activity with the 15 year old. So would you have preferred him to go free like with the women in this story?

    I'm not up to speed on the case in question so I can't offer my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    Imagine being the husband though. Finding out your wife cheated on you with a kid she teaches. Brutal.

    Bet she never had a threesome with him either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 Yugi76


    I had threesome last weekend, there were a couple of no shows but I had a good time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    I'm not up to speed on the case in question so I can't offer my opinion.

    But you did by saying it was a completely different situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    But you did by saying it was a completely different situation.

    It was a different situation. I don't remember the whole ins and outs, but he planned on running away with the girl to a different jurisdiction. That's not offering an opinion. That's stating a fact. I'd have to read up on it to offer a proper opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    The lad was hardly traumatised about the event. He was bragging about it to his pals. His only regret seems to be that they got in trouble.

    Somebody once broke into my house while I was there on my own. I chased them back out, and after the locksmith arrived and sorted out the door, I went to bed and slept soundly as a baby. It didn't bother me hugely. I rarely gave it much thought after that except as an amusing anecdote.

    That person, though, still committed a crime. They still destroyed some of my property and came into my home with malicious intentions. Many people would have responded to that all very differently, which is fair enough - if it had been my flatmate instead of me, I doubt she'd have ever felt safe living there again.

    This kid may not recognise that what was done to him was wrong, but that's why there's an age of consent in the first place, because their judgement isn't considered of an equipped standard to make calls like that. I have no doubt some of the British media paedophiles' victims might not have immediately seen themselves as such either. Heck, the most extreme of domestic violence victims often don't ever recognise it for what it was.

    If these two are guilty - if, given the slightly Penthouse Forum-y feel of the scenario he was bragging about - then they should be prosecuted to no less an extent than any other offender guilty of the same crime, regardless of how affected the victim thinks he is or isn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    I'm not up to speed on the case in question so I can't offer my opinion.

    He did run away with her, though it was not abduction like was made out in the papers - she ran away with him for a week or so in France. He got a separate one year sentence for that because she also was not old enough to be allowed make that kind of decision.

    But he got 4.5 years solely for his sexual activity with 15 year old girl, which was also entirely consensual, just like in the case here. By your logic, he should have got no time for that, or else you are holding a double standard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭tritium


    Two sexual predators may go to jail for statutory rape!

    What a pity

    (That the maximum sentence can't be longer)



    I lol'd that the article linked is via daily mail, the paper that keeps on giving.....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    If this were my son I would be extremely disappointed...

    That he went mouthing off about it and fecked it up for himself.

    Aye, it would be great if two adult women in a position of responsibility had sex with your 16 year old kid.

    High fives all around.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3 Flasche


    The lad was hardly traumatised about the event. He was bragging about it to his pals. His only regret seems to be that they got in trouble.

    The teachers broke the law, whether the boy is traumatised or not is incidental.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    Mantis1234 wrote: »
    Well a 16 year old girl having sex with 2 male teachers may not be traumatised by it either, but people's reactions would be completely different.
    Rape is rape, and it has consequences. The teachers are at fault here, they should have known better.

    Rape? Did I miss something in that article?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Boskowski wrote: »
    Rape? Did I miss something in that article?

    Statutory rape.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    I know the lives of 3 people have been affected by this, but why is it, that every time I hear something like this, all I can think about is the South Park episode where ike had an affair with his teacher.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    Flasche wrote: »
    The teachers broke the law, whether the boy is traumatised or not is incidental.

    Yeah but they were hot :D

    The law is only for ugly fat people messing with kids.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭sammy37


    Hopefully her dad left his rock hammer in the cell.
    Very good 10 out of 10 for you for that.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    Mantis1234 wrote: »
    Well the teachers shouldn't have ****ed a kid. Just imagine if the genders were reversed.

    "She feels really bad. These men have families and she knows how terrible it is for them. She knows they will never be able to teach again and could very well go to prison." Can you imagine the reaction to that statement from the feminists?

    No they should have shagged a kid. But 17 years in the slammer for this? That's just typical American bullsh!t sadistic revenge and cruelty cloaked with a big fat dose of prudishness.
    If this occurred in some society like The Netherlands, or Sweden or Germany...you know ...where SANITY prevails, there would no doubt be a more progressive approach to the issue such as a bit of discipline and counselling and some kind of fair punishment. But no! Not in the USA where an intelligent approach to problem solving is for pussies. There they have to wreck people's lives because they like it.

    Amazing how fucking backward the place is


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    If convicted (why does the article say they did have sex with him, have they already been convicted?) the teachers by definition of law raped them statutorily. They are in a position of trust and abused that trust if found guilty. The boy has nothing to feel sorry for and the teachers deserve what they get should they be found guilty.


    When something horrible happens like what is being alleged here then there needs to be action taken. People who abuse trust like that need to be dealt with.

    Abuse trust? What are you talking about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 Faktuu


    WTF is wrong with you ppl if that would be a girl there would be no question what happens next
    those women should be punished to the full extend of the law.
    since women ware fighting for equal rights they should take the burden of it.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    Mantis1234 wrote: »
    Well a 16 year old girl having sex with 2 male teachers may not be traumatised by it either, but people's reactions would be completely different.
    Rape is rape, and it has consequences. The teachers are at fault here, they should have known better.

    Rape is NOT rape, FFS. This kid was not raped no matter how you want to hide behind semantics.
    Classifying consensual sex with someone below the age of consent as "statutory rape" is retarded and is only for effect on public attitudes. There's nothing "rape" about it.

    Rape is an act of sexual violence perpetrated against a helpless and unwilling victim.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    In the end of the day even if the boy wanted it and is not traumatised they still broke the law if convicted.

    Think of it this way. A drug dealer breaks the law by selling drugs to someone. Now that person who they sold the drugs to may not be affected negatively by it but the dealer still broke the law and needs to be dealt with.

    Things don't need to be that black and white. A bit of adult thinking is required in a situation like this, not the knee-jerk desire to wreck people's live just because you can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    anncoates wrote: »
    Aye, it would be great if two adult women in a position of responsibility had sex with your 16 year old kid.

    High fives all around.

    Absolutely. All joking aside, I'd rather he wait until he was 18 but fat chance of that happening in todays world. The lad in question was 16, the schools quarter back and was openly bragging about his conquests. I think he will be alright. His only regret seems to be that he opened his big mouth.

    As for the two teachers; they should be banned from ever working with minors again. But jail time? Up to 17.5 years? Nah. That's madness. Their careers and lifes are ruined. That's enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭tritium


    Egginacup wrote: »
    Things don't need to be that black and white. A bit of adult thinking is required in a situation like this, not the knee-jerk desire to wreck people's live just because you can.

    Can we presume from your posts that you also think that male teachers having consensual sex with their (underage) pupils shouldn't lose their career and their liberty? What about the numerous sports coaches who have been convicted over the years?

    Tell me also: at what point does grooming an impressionable child for sex morph into their consent? And how can you tell?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭ManofStraw


    Yeah but they were hot :D

    The law is only for ugly fat people messing with kids.

    ugly fat male messing with kids, no one takes statutory rape as seriously when the male is underage because "he probably wanted it".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    Faktuu wrote: »
    WTF is wrong with you ppl if that would be a girl there would be no question what happens next
    those women should be punished to the full extend of the law.
    since women ware fighting for equal rights they should take the burden of it.

    It wasn't women who were arguing otherwise?

    Statutory rape, by an authority figure, against one of their underage charges, is a nasty, nasty crime regardless of whether the child is male, female or martian.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    Egginacup wrote: »
    Rape is NOT rape, FFS. This kid was not raped no matter how you want to hide behind semantics.
    Classifying consensual sex with someone below the age of consent as "statutory rape" is retarded and is only for effect on public attitudes. There's nothing "rape" about it.

    Rape is an act of sexual violence perpetrated against a helpless and unwilling victim.

    The lynchpin is "consent". A child is not in a position to give meaningful consent to an adult who's in charge of them. It's rape because they've no consent to give. The fact that the perpetrator wasn't standing over the victim with a knife doesn't change that - plenty of sex offenders coerce children without force.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    Faktuu wrote: »
    WTF is wrong with you ppl if that would be a girl there would be no question what happens next
    those women should be punished to the full extend of the law.

    They should be punished yes.
    since women ware fighting for equal rights they should take the burden of it.
    By combining the two issues though, are you suggesting that if these cheeky women had not demanded equael rights they could have carried on having sex with their pupils?


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Male teacher consensually sleeps with 15 year old female student. Female teachers consensually sleep with 16 year old male student. Yep. Completely different...

    He got five and a half years, four and a half of which were for sexual activity with the 15 year old. So would you have preferred him to go free like with the women in this story?

    35% of all women in prison worldwide are in prison in America.
    80% of women in prison are there for non-violent offences.
    Many of the women who are imprisoned are pregnant when they are sent away
    And the majority of them are the primary carers of one or more children.

    These children are then slung into the abyss that is the foster care system and usually separated indefinitely from their siblings, many to never see each other again and these blameless children who are deprived of their mothers are themselves 6 times more likely to enter criminality than children who have a mother.

    There is absolutely NO good reason why the majority of women should be in prison. It solves nothing. It causes infinitely more problems than it solves ...which is none.
    Instead of looking for excuses to jail these too women over what is, let's face it, more of a scandal and an episode of sexually heated stupidity than some kind of "heinous crime" it would be more productive to step back, calm-the-fcuk down and approach the matter with clear headed maturity.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    The lynchpin is "consent". A child is not in a position to give meaningful consent to an adult who's in charge of them. It's rape because they've no consent to give. The fact that the perpetrator wasn't standing over the victim with a knife doesn't change that - plenty of sex offenders coerce children without force.

    Then how do you classify two minors engaging in sexual activity? Are they unable to consent to each other?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭DarkyHughes


    I remember in school when i was 14 I wanted to f*ck my French teacher really bad, I didn't & fingered a girl at a disco instead.


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