WARNING Notorious violent rapist is free to walk streets again

the culture of deference

Another instance of the justice systems inadequacies






Ireland's policy of rape sentencing is under the spotlight again after one of the country's most dangerous rapists was released from prison.





Trevor Byrne (37), originally from O'Devaney Gardens in Dublin's north inner city, has completed a six-year sentence for assaulting a woman after forcing his way into her Phibsboro home and dragging her upstairs in September 2009. her housemate was awoken and Byrne fled.


He was originally released in March this year, benefitting from remission, but re-imprisoned in April after breaching parole conditions. He was re-released last week and is currently under garda surveillance, though it is not clear how long this will last.




Byrne has ten convictions, the longest being for 15 years for raping an 18-year-old woman in November 1993 when he was only 16.



He struck his first victim on the head with a brick and told her he had to kill her.


Thirty six hours after his release in December 2005 he attacked a Filipino nurse leaving work in the early hours near the Mater Hospital, Dublin. He was jailed for five years on a charge of assault and threatening to kill one of two men who came to her rescue.


Just 14 hours after being released from that sentence, in September 2009, Byrne attacked the young French woman in Phibsboro. She gave evidence that he struck her on the head and forced his way into her home, but her housemate was awoken and Byrne fled. Byrne was given an eight-year sentence, with the final two years suspended. With parole, he served only five years of the sentence.


On his release in March this year, Byrne was told he had to observe an 8pm to 8am curfew and not to consume alcohol or drugs. Within two weeks of his release he was stopped on the street outside his curfew by gardai and found to be carrying a bag containing six cans of cider.


Byrne had been staying in the Cabra area, but moved to Cavan after his presence became known, then later returned to Dublin and was staying in a B&B in the north inner city when he was re- arrested.


At his hearing in April this year the court heard that extensive media coverage concerning Byrne had been "problematic" for the Probation Service and Byrne had to change address six times in 20 days.



Gardai were unaware of his release in December 2005 and he was only caught because the two men who apprehended him as he attacked the nurse detained him until gardai arrived. They were similarly not alerted when he was again released in 2009 before attacking the young French woman. However, gardai were informed last week of Byrne's latest release from jail by the Probation Service.
Sunday Independent


http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/notorious-violent-rapist-is-free-to-walk-streets-again-30656898.html

Packrat

Now, as per the other thread, it would be terrible if he got a bit of mob justice considering of course he'd be innocent as a newborn according to two or three posting here. :rolleyes:

Hande hoche!

I should mention something about importing garlic.

Scumbag in fairness.

RobertKK

Cases like this should be eunuch-fied, not released with the weapons to offend again.

Laois6556

Rehabilitation clearly works. We all make mistakes when we're young, surely he deserves a second chance and then a third chance and then......................................
If he got the needle after his first vicious rape then those other women wouldn't have been put through their ordeals that they will live with for the rest of their lives.

kneemos

Laois6556 wrote: »

Rehabilitation clearly works. We all make mistakes when we're young, surely he deserves a second chance and then a third chance and then......................................
If he got the needle after his first vicious rape then those other women wouldn't have been put through their ordeals that they will live with for the rest of their lives.

Doubt it would matter.He appears to violent towards women for some reason,micky or not.

Akrasia

This guy is clearly a violent psychopath who has absolutely no business being outside of prison.

It makes absolutely no sense that someone with this track record for recidivism should be sentenced to anything less than life in Jail without parole.

Frynge

Would it make sense to have an automatic sentence for people convicted of violent crime within a certain period from release. Like in this case he should have gotten 15 years for attacking that woman in 2005.

Laois6556

kneemos wrote: »

Doubt it would matter.He appears to violent towards women for some reason,micky or not.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant he be put to sleep.

osarusan

kneemos wrote: »

Doubt it would matter.He appears to violent towards women for some reason,micky or not.

I think 'the needle' probably means one to end his life.

Because, if you don't support executing people like him, you obviously condone his crimes.

THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND.

Laois6556

osarusan wrote: »

I think 'the needle' probably means one to end his life.

Because, if you don't support executing people like him, you obviously condone his crimes.

THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND.

I don't remember saying that. I did say this though: "If he got the needle after his first vicious rape then those other women wouldn't have been put through their ordeals that they will live with for the rest of their lives."
You can't disagree with that obviously so you create a different thing to argue with.

osarusan

Laois6556 wrote: »

I
You can't disagree with that obviously so you create a different thing to argue with.

I'm not really commenting on what you said (other than to suggest that the poster had probably misinterpreted it - as you also posted on).

It's a gereral comment on how these threads usually go.

Laois6556

osarusan wrote: »

I'm not really commenting on what you said (other than to suggest that the poster had probably misinterpreted it - as you also posted on).

It's a gereral comment on how these threads usually go.

I see but surely you can see the benefits from the solution I suggested?

mikom

The cell needed to be freed up to make space for someone who refused to pay their Tubridy licence.

hfallada

Why is Gardai time being wasted by literally looking at him in theirs squad car. He should be put under house arrest with an electronic tag to monitor his where abouts. When he leaves the houses, his alarm is triggered and the Gardai are sent for

davemc180

hfallada wrote: »

Why is Gardai time being wasted by literally looking at him in theirs squad car. He should be put under house arrest with an electronic tag to monitor his where abouts. When he leaves the houses, his alarm is triggered and the Gardai are sent for

well garda been called everytime he left his house would be wasting time more then likely on a daily basis..

he should be still locked up for his crimes

RobertKK

hfallada wrote: »

Why is Gardai time being wasted by literally looking at him in theirs squad car. He should be put under house arrest with an electronic tag to monitor his where abouts. When he leaves the houses, his alarm is triggered and the Gardai are sent for

One of those dog shocker things if he strays would be good, could set the voltage high...

suicide_circus

I'm not into hysterical mob justice but this individual has proven himself time and again incapable of safely interacting with society.

catallus

suicide_circus wrote: »

I'm not into hysterical mob justice but this individual has proven himself time and again incapable of safely interacting with society.

Then why do you think the probation services saw fit to release him?

Did they pull the decision out of their arses? Or did they work to a plan?

tritium

Packrat wrote: »

Now, as per the other thread, it would be terrible if he got a bit of mob justice considering of course he'd be innocent as a newborn according to two or three posting here. :rolleyes:

In this case we have a violent thug with a history of violent sexual crimes that's well documented and who should probably be serving a life tafiff by this point

In the other thread we had a man described as a rapist on the back of the word of a lynch mob with no history of any crime given and indeed no sexual offence committed there. And of course a few posters just dying to play the No smoke without fire card.

See if you can spot the difference

Hint: its not a hard question to answer.

suicide_circus

catallus wrote: »

Then why do you think the probation services saw fit to release him?

Did they pull the decision out of their arses? Or did they work to a plan?

Ah yeah listen I dont have all the facts but I do find his rate of recidivism combined with the sexually violent nature of his crimes somewhat worrying. Presumably you wouldn't give it a second thought if he moved in down the road from you, your wife and daughter?

catallus

Well, somebody signed off on him being released.

Can we ever truly know our neighbour?

o1s1n

catallus wrote: »

Then why do you think the probation services saw fit to release him?

Did they pull the decision out of their arses? Or did they work to a plan?

So what about the previous times he was released and reoffeneded? Did they make the right decision in those instances too?

anncoates

RobertKK wrote: »

Cases like this should be eunuch-fied, not released with the weapons to offend again.

Yeah because if you cut a psycho misogynist's cock off, he'd turn into a feminist Gandhi overnight.

wicklowstevo

hard to see any reason why excuting that guy would be a bad idea ,

if not for his crimes then to protect the public from him , its really the only practical answer

zl1whqvjs75cdy

You'd miss a bit of IRA justice the odd time.

catallus

o1s1n wrote: »

So what about the previous times he was released and reoffeneded? Did they make the right decision in those instances too?

Ah here, we can't hold the decision makers accountable. That's not part of the plan. They're not responsible for society's safety or anything!

o1s1n

catallus wrote: »

Ah here, we can't hold the decision makers accountable. That's not part of the plan. They're not responsible for society's safety or anything!

Decision makers can't be held accountable for the fallout from their bad decisions?

Sounds like a great job!

Egginacup

wicklowstevo wrote: »

hard to see any reason why excuting that guy would be a bad idea ,

if not for his crimes then to protect the public from him , its really the only practical answer

It's not the only practical answer.

Sir Arthur Daley

Banding him is the only solution.

Laois6556

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

You'd miss a bit of IRA justice the odd time.

That's what some of us are saying, except give them the lethal injection instead of shooting them in the back of the head.

Laois6556

What are the benefits of keeping lowlife scum like this alive?

Summer wind

Should not be on our streets full stop.

wicklowstevo

Egginacup wrote: »

It's not the only practical answer.

says you

Amalgam

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

You'd miss a bit of IRA justice the odd time.

*cough* I think he has 'flags and stuff' tattooed on his arms.. Chocolate An Lár etc etc..

tritium

catallus wrote: »

Then why do you think the probation services saw fit to release him?

Did they pull the decision out of their arses? Or did they work to a plan?

Looking at the time he served in each instance they may have had no choice once he behaved in jail- he served 12 of 15 for example. I do wonder how the sentences he received for his most recent crimes compare to the maximum possible. Basically the judge may have been too lenient or the rules may not allow a stiffer sentence.

Either way there's an argument for an extremely severe minimum sentence activating after 3-4 violent offences, sort if the US three strikes rule but with a bit of cop on overlaid

c_man

You'd have to be seriously deluded to think this guy won't assault/rape again.

Mob justice with any luck

Guy:Incognito

Kill ALL the rapists.


No, actually do it.

Guy:Incognito

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Kill ALL the rapists.


No, actually do it.

But they had troubled childhoods etc...

CrazyRabbit

Sounds like this guy needs a very long stay in mental health institute. No mentally sound person would act like this and re-offend so quickly upon release. Prison obviously isn't doing any good.

smash

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Sounds like this guy needs a very long stay in mental health institute.

Are there any that still perform full frontal lobotomies?

Mr. CooL ICE

As this guy has repeatedly reoffended and proven he is a danger to others, rehabilitation clearly has not worked. I don't see any point in keeping him alive.

Streetwalker

He's done the time. Was the sentence right, no but them the rules.

smash

Streetwalker wrote: »

He's done the time. Was the sentence right, no but them the rules.

Interesting username to go with your attitude....

Streetwalker

smash wrote: »

Interesting username to go with your attitude....

What attitude? I don't like it anymore than you but that's the law. You want to override the rule of law then just say so but that's a frightening path to go down.

Also what's my username got to do with anything?

B.A._Baracus

Lock him up and throw away the key.

B.A._Baracus

Streetwalker wrote: »

He's done the time. Was the sentence right, no but them the rules.

As long as he doesnt rape, or worse yet, kill anyone you care about. Then it's all ok.

Them's be your rules huh.

humanji

MOD: right, now that you've all had your chance to scream about how he should be killed/mutilated etc, how about you keep your emotions in check and think about things a little more logically and calmly.

smash

humanji wrote: »

keep your emotions in check and think about things a little more logically and calmly.

On the internet? NEVER!!!!!

/grabs pitchfork

jillymayr

10 convictions!!! wow