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noel edmonds late late show

  • 11-10-2014 7:01am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭


    hi .

    does anyone know what the device noel was taking about last night . did he call it a empad or mpad . its a device you lay on for 8 minutes a day and the electric current runs through you and realigns your blood ?

    cheers
    figs


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,004 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    figs666 wrote: »
    hi .

    does anyone know what the device noel was taking about last night . did he call it a empad or mpad . its a device you lay on for 8 minutes a day and the electric current runs through you and realigns your blood ?

    cheers
    figs
    Well that sounds like a very useful device altogether and not at all like quackery.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Well that sounds like a very useful device altogether and not at all like quackery.

    I didn't even know my blood was misaligned!

    Check the rte player for playback


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭josealdo


    godtabh wrote: »
    I didn't even know my blood was misaligned!

    Check the rte player for playback

    i did and he said empad . i googled it and nothing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 615 ✭✭✭jellyboy


    maybe its hidden in a red box?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 615 ✭✭✭jellyboy


    this is maybe what your looking for ..

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/496345-muscle-stimulator-workout-pad-placement/

    or scenar is close to it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭texas star


    I was googling it too and I couldn't find anything either.He hasn't aged a bit.I really enjoyed his interview.If u find out the device can u let me know too.Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    would you like to buy some of this as well?

    6a0133ec991857970b01774367802b970d-pi


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭Gosub


    He hasn't aged a bit because he's had an easy life with lots of money. He hasn't worked a day in his life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭josealdo


    Gosub wrote: »
    He hasn't aged a bit because he's had an easy life with lots of money. He hasn't worked a day in his life.

    3 marraiges and 4 kids aint a easy life mate


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭Last_Minute


    Some people age better than others, it's just the way it is. To be honest i think his large hair and big beard hides a lot of the lines etc that are associated with aging.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭Gosub


    figs666 wrote: »
    3 marraiges and 4 kids aint a easy life mate
    I have 4 kids... wasn't all that hard. :P How are 3 marriages hard? Might have been hard on the wives alright. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭jace_da_face


    Big hair and beard ..... Nonsense ! Noel looks great. He seems very together and clearly has high emotional intelligence. Quite inspiring really.

    I do hope this m-pad device doesn't turn out to be something he aims to make a buck out of. That would be disappointing. If anyone can find info on it please share.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    godtabh wrote: »
    I didn't even know my blood was misaligned!

    Sit/stand at a slightly different angle. Be grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭josealdo


    endacl wrote: »
    Sit/stand at a slightly different angle. Be grand.

    not funny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    figs666 wrote: »
    not funny

    Wasn't meant to be funny. The forum charter prevents me from admitting that it was medical advice. So I won't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭jace_da_face


    In answer to the OP's question, I reckon I found the device Noel was referring too. It's an EMPpad. And it's not cheap!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,004 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    figs666 wrote: »
    not funny

    Why? What's wrong with misaligned blood anyway?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭josealdo


    In answer to the OP's question, I reckon I found the device Noel was referring too. It's an EMPpad. And it's not cheap!


    thats the device ok . thanks mate . i recently build a cranial electro stimulator so a pulse elevtromagnetic field sleep machine is my next project


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭jace_da_face


    figs666 wrote: »
    thats the device ok . thanks mate . i recently build a cranial electro stimulator so a pulse elevtromagnetic field sleep machine is my next project

    Well I would love to get technical details on that if you were willing to share. I know these mats contain coils which are driven by electro magnetic pulses. Any schematics, voltage levels, frequencies, power consumption info would be great. If the frequencies are in the audio spectrum I could probably write an iPad app to generate these via the headphone port. Would just need to build the right amp to drive the coils . What do you think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 Olechka


    I also got interested in this empad or whatever the correct name for the device. I am wondering how can we all who are interested find out what that actually is.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭josealdo


    Well I would love to get technical details on that if you were willing to share. I know these mats contain coils which are driven by electro magnetic pulses. Any schematics, voltage levels, frequencies, power consumption info would be great. If the frequencies are in the audio spectrum I could probably write an iPad app to generate these via the headphone port. Would just need to build the right amp to drive the coils . What do you think?

    sure thing . i googles CES circuit and bought my components from bitsbox.co.uk . it works a treat .

    as for the PEMF mat . i haven't done any research but i will . i should have one built within the next two months . my biohacker brother has a massive electromagnet under his bed . his house looks like Doc browns house from back to the future . some heroin junkie broke in a while back and robbed his laptop worth 500 and left a fluke meter worth 4500 .LOL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭josealdo


    Olechka wrote: »
    I also got interested in this empad or whatever the correct name for the device. I am wondering how can we all who are interested find out what that actually is.

    google emppad . its a electromagnetic mat . cost about 3000 Euros


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭locum-motion


    What Noel actually said was that the device "re-calibrates the red blood cells".

    This is, absolutely and positively, bull**** of the highest order.

    To calibrate something means

    To re-calibrate means to calibrate again.

    This means absolutely nothing unless you are using the red blood cells to measure something else. Even if you were doing that, why would you need to spend 8 minutes every day re-calibrating them? And what is the health benefit of spending 8 minutes a day measuring your red blood cells so that you can then use them to measure something else? What parameter are you using the RBC's to measure? And even if there was such a parameter, what is the benefit of measuring that parameter? At best, measuring something would only indicate that some other intervention needs to occur to correct a measurement that is 'out'. It is not an intervention itself.

    Or is it (and, to me, this is the more likely scenario) simply that the manufacturers of some bull**** gizmo that has absolutely no measurable effects on the body have tried to chose something nice and scientific-sounding but that actually means nothing, so that gullible people will spend lots of money on their product.

    EDITED TO ADD: I don't know if Noel has any connection to the producers of this product.
    If he has none, then he is merely a gullible victim himself.
    However, if he has a connection, then he is either:
    A) still just a gullible person who genuinely but misguidedly believes in the product (at best), or
    B) a cynical moneygrabber who is using his status as a trusted and beloved-of-the-public celebrity to bilk gullible people out of their money (at worst).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Rucking_Fetard


    In answer to the OP's question, I reckon I found the device Noel was referring too. It's an EMPpad. And it's not cheap!
    €2600 sure it's a Bargain! Very little about it search wise, must be a new thing. Lots of studies linked on their site to pimp it.

    Tis a new company, just this year, so it's not whats keeping Edmonds young looking (if he is), first vid on youtube less than a month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭josealdo


    What Noel actually said was that the device "re-calibrates the red blood cells".

    This is, absolutely and positively, bull**** of the highest order.

    To calibrate something means


    To re-calibrate means to calibrate again.

    This means absolutely nothing unless you are using the red blood cells to measure something else. Even if you were doing that, why would you need to spend 8 minutes every day re-calibrating them? And what is the health benefit of spending 8 minutes a day measuring your red blood cells so that you can then use them to measure something else? What parameter are you using the RBC's to measure? And even if there was such a parameter, what is the benefit of measuring that parameter? At best, measuring something would only indicate that some other intervention needs to occur to correct a measurement that is 'out'. It is not an intervention itself.

    Or is it (and, to me, this is the more likely scenario) simply that the manufacturers of some bull**** gizmo that has absolutely no measurable effects on the body have tried to chose something nice and scientific-sounding but that actually means nothing, so that gullible people will spend lots of money on their product.



    i'm going to build my own . hope i dont wet the bed . with it plugged into 220volts my red blood cells will get recalibrated ok . LOL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭josealdo


    €2600 sure it's a Bargain! Very little about it search wise, must be a new thing. Lots of studies linked on their site to pimp it.

    Tis a new company, just this year, so it's not whats keeping Edmonds young looking (if he is), first vid on youtube less than a month.


    just googled it . the real reason edmonds looks so young is because he drank 8 pints of jimmy savilles blood .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Vorsprung


    Was about to rubbish this based purely on its use by someone who used to hang out with Mr Blobby but did a quick pubmed search and sure enough pulsed electromagnetic therapy is popping up in a lot of the journals, particularly the orthopaedic ones.

    Cochrane has recently done a meta-analysis on looking at EMP in frozen shoulder. Small numbers but said there may be a benefit in huge conclusion, haven't reads the whole thing though.

    Nothing about blood cell realignment though!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭locum-motion


    Vorsprung wrote: »
    ...

    Nothing about blood cell realignment though!!


    But he didn't say "re-align", he said "re-calibrate".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Vorsprung


    But he didn't say "re-align", he said "re-calibrate".

    Mea culpa. I've another bit of pubmedding to do, will come back to you!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Rucking_Fetard


    .
    Here we go, this is how it works,
    PEMF therapy has an effect on the cell membrane, energising it and creating cellular resonance. This allows the cells to vibrate in co-ordination with each other, developing greater communication between cells and allowing them to work together more efficiently. PEMF therapy stimulates the synthesis of certain protective proteins enabling the cell to repair and regenerate. When used in conjunction with the brain entrainment application it can activate the relaxing effects of the parasympathetic nervous system, reducing stress and improving sleep, which is when our healing is most effective.
    what ya think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 Johnny Quaid


    Hi, Noel Edmonds talked about an N pad or M pad he uses everyday about impulses to his body and head, I can seem to find what this is so obviously I heard wrong can people tell me what this pad he talks about is?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,669 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    Right, post evidence, references or at least some media quotes or I'm closing this....
    And please stay on topic, I'm going to delete all the off topic and "humorous" ones from now one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Dingle_berry


    Here we go, this is how it works,
    what ya think?
    What "protective" proteins? How does it get an erythrocyte to make them when an erythrocyte has no nucleus and no mRNA? The rest about energising, vibrating and communicating sounds as plausible as the pH diet.
    Vorsprung wrote: »
    Mea culpa. I've another bit of pubmedding to do, will come back to you!

    As Locum-motion said, re-calibration refers to measurement. It has nothing to do with function.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 684 ✭✭✭Benedict


    There are a lot of smart replies to this question - but seriously, what was Noel Edmonds talking about? Was it an "m-pad"? Because there's nothing on Google!
    Anyone know what he was talking about last Friday?






    Mod edit (just a quick not to say bold fonts are used to make moderator comments/instruction. Please don't use them to make general points), Also the web based version of shouting!
    Rob


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    endacl wrote: »
    He's into all sorts of new age tripe. I doubt he knew himself.

    Isn't he into that cosmic ordering bull5hit? On that basis alone, I'd dismiss everything he says.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭locum-motion


    Benedict wrote: »
    There are a lot of smart replies to this question - but seriously, what was Noel Edmonds talking about? Was it an "m-pad"? Because there's nothing on Google!
    Anyone know what he was talking about last Friday?...

    I guess you missed posts #17, #23 & #25, then, did you? Because they all answered your question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 926 ✭✭✭drzhivago


    Still not sure even if this thing worked and did what it says it should by realigning things what practical effect this would have on my innards, was never part of our physiology experiments was it fowl... I remember realigning my inner ear with cold water but don't remember any magnetic realignment experimentation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭j.mcdrmd


    drzhivago wrote: »
    Still not sure even if this thing worked and did what it says it should by realigning things what practical effect this would have on my innards, was never part of our physiology experiments was it fowl... I remember realigning my inner ear with cold water but don't remember any magnetic realignment experimentation

    Why are people still engaging in this sort of rubbish?

    Maybe it is a bit of a laugh for you lot, but Medicine in Ireland is in bits, is it not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    figs666 wrote: »
    google emppad . its a electromagnetic mat . cost about 3000 Euros
    Lie on your bed hang your head over the side for 2 minutes twice daily it will get your blood flowing same effect for free ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭jace_da_face


    j.mcdrmd wrote: »
    Why are people still engaging in this sort of rubbish?

    Maybe it is a bit of a laugh for you lot, but Medicine in Ireland is in bits, is it not?

    There seems to be a lot of studies and evidence that support the use of PEMF therapy, which replicate the earth's own 'Schumann resonances'. NASA have documented their studies on this and use it widely.

    Astronauts in space who are no longer under the influence of the earth's electromagnetic field would get sick without PEMF devices fitted in their suits and onboard the ISS etc. They would quickly develop all kinds of ill-health such as muscle dystrophy and bone loss. NASA have demonstrated all kinds of benefits such as cell repair, oxygen utilisation , bone fracture healing and so on. Most of these effects were demonstrated on earth, so it is still helpful down here where presumably most of us spend most of our time indoors, shielded from the earths EMF and saturated with undesirable EMF energy from electrical equipment, mobile phones, wi-fi etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,004 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    There seems to be a lot of studies and evidence that support the use of PEMF therapy

    Any links to these studies that seem to exist?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Rucking_Fetard


    Any links to these studies that seem to exist?

    Read the thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭jace_da_face


    Any links to these studies that seem to exist?

    Well there are over 1000 such studies. But for starters try googling the NASA study "Pulsed electromagnetic fields - A countermeasure for bone loss and muscle dystrophy"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    I'd always thought that bone loss and muscle dystrophy had been put down to zero gravity rather than anything else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭jace_da_face


    Alun wrote: »
    I'd always thought that bone loss and muscle dystrophy had been put down to zero gravity rather than anything else?

    That's a plausible assumption but PEMF therapy has turned out to be an effective countermeasure against these ill-effects in astronauts. And there are also studies that show the same ill-effects in people who spend a long time in bunkers deep in the ground. Such bunkers are also shielded from the earths EMF but would still experience a high gravitational field.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭Xeyn


    So basically possible benefits for people who have physiological effects imposed on them that no one else on earth will experience?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭jace_da_face


    Other than people who spend most times indoors and are surrounded by the wrong kind of EMF perhaps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭Pixel8


    Hello,

    Pulsed Electro Magnetic Fields (PEMF) are sound science, there are lots of medical studies available here: http://www.emppad.com/emppad-the-science

    Here are a few:
    http://ston.jsc.nasa.gov/collections/TRS/_techrep/TP-2003-212054.pdf
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=PEMF+prostate
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11976268
    http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ecam/2014/543564/

    This technology is based on electricity, magnetism (electro-magnetism) and frequency very similar to how the SOTA Magnetic Pulser works (which is far cheaper - around €400) and has been available for at least 10 years or more. Medicine has yet to catch up with all this new technology and you won't hear about it from your local doctor as anyone that knows how conventional medicine works will know it takes at least 10 years for new discoveries to make it into mainstream medicine, plus they use a lot of old outdated technology that still needs to be paid for...! So you won't hear about this new tech from your doctors but it's all over the internet.

    The technology was rediscovered by a Physicist by the name of Dr. Robert C. Beck who developed a protocol for health based on this technology called the Bob Beck Protocol which can be downloaded from here: http://www.electrobiotics.com/PDFs/BobBeckPaper.pdf

    The Bob Beck Protocol:

    Blood Zapping
    Colloidal Silver
    Magnetic Pulsing
    Ozonated Water


    Dr. Bob Beck video: Suppressed Medical Discovery

    Other fairly new products based on electro-medicine and electro-magnetism are Blood Zappers, Magnetic Pulsers, Silver Pulsers, Colloidal Silver Makers, EMF Protection, Water Ionizers, etc.

    You can find more info about all this from here: http://www.electrobiotics.com/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,004 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Ffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭jace_da_face


    Well assuming good therapies and cures even reach mainstream. Big pharma seems to have an agenda and that is profit. It is more profitable to treat people's symptoms over a lifetime than it is to cure. Effective alternative therapies and cures get suppressed if it disrupts that business model.

    Check out Dr. Burzynski. He (and not a pharma corporation) developed his own drug called an Antineoplaston, which successfully cures many cancers. The FDA (who work for pharma) have done everything they can over the last couple of decades to stop him and attempt to imprison him. As the patent owner of these Antineoplastons, he is now in phase 3 of FDA approved clinical trials of this therapy. But they really do not want him to succeed.

    Check out 'Dr Burzynski movie (FULL VERSION)' on youtube or vimeo. It is a must see.


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