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Do you ever donate to charity?

  • 10-10-2014 6:40pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭


    I think I'll start, I usually have the odd fiver or tenner around that I'll only spend on bottles of coke and crap like that in the shop, think I'll just give it to MSF or somewhere in the future instead.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Can't really afford to at the moment but I do volunteer my time for a charity close to my heart so that's my good deed right there. I'd be wary to be honest about giving money to a charity, you can never really be sure where its going can you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Just sperm.

    And the charity is an old sock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    I don't donate to charities where the CEO earns more than the average industrial wage, so that rules out most of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    Does the 'ISIS Fund of International Solidarity' count?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭realweirdo


    Sometimes yes but I'd much rather 3rd world countries try to sort out their own problems rather than go looking for handouts.

    To give an example of some countries that regularly seek aid...Ethiopia...pretty much a dictatorship with no free speech...north korea...spends massively on pet projects such as nuclear weapons, satelites, theme parks for the rich, yet can't feed its own people, India likewise.

    There should be no charity without conditions particularly around human rights.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    I don't have any regular direct debit or anything set up but I always throw a few quid into collection tins for cancer or dogs trust or anything else that I come across. I usually throw in whatever change I have. It's better than nothing and I'll only spend it on crap anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Fat Christy


    No I don't because I have no idea where the money is going and if it is going to the people who genuinely need it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭lil'bug


    I have a direct debit for wwf and I am planing to do a fund raiser at work for a local homeless charity for Halloween


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭The Strawman Argument


    Of course I do, I donate absolutely loads, I'm great so I am. I like to keep it quiet though, don't like to brag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Not normally.

    Gave my son €2 for some childline breakfast thing they were having in school this morning.

    Only other time I can recall was a few years back. Myself and my OH were going on holiday to New York and my Grandad insisted that I take some money from him towards the cost (which I didn't need), ended up taking it just to placate him on the condition that I would pay him back after we got home. Unfortunately he died before I got the chance to so I had a spare couple of hundred euro which I gave to the Salvation army as it was the only organization he felt was worth giving money to.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,880 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    GarIT wrote: »
    I don't donate to charities where the CEO earns more than the average industrial wage, so that rules out most of them.

    So which ones do you donate to?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    GarIT wrote: »
    I don't donate to charities where the CEO earns more than the average industrial wage, so that rules out most of them.

    But why? I imagine it's a very difficult job being the CEO of a massive charity organisation, perhaps employing someone who has a large salary, but is also very good at their job, isn't actually a bad thing? I imagine there's a better chance of a CEO on a high salary being great at their job and therefore actually bringing in a lot of money than a CEO on average industrial wage.

    These CEO's could easily up and leave if their pay was cut, as long as they're doing a good job I don't really care if they're getting paid above the average industrial wage. Take MSF for example, their CEO is on €110000 a year, and in 2010 they raised €209116366, sounds like he's doing a good job, doesn't it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    I have a standing order to the SVP :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,238 ✭✭✭Deank


    I do like donating to the bank of "ME"

    Charities are a business, people need to get paid, only a tiny percentage of the funds go where the people who donate think they're going to.

    Wanna be charitable, give a tramp on the side of a road a tenner, bet few of you would do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    lil'bug wrote: »
    I have a direct debit for wwf and I am planing to do a fund raiser at work for a local homeless charity for Halloween

    Those bleedin' wrestlers have enough money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    Deank wrote: »
    I do like donating to the bank of "ME"

    Charities are a business, people need to get paid, only a tiny percentage of the funds go where the people who donate think they're going to.

    Wanna be charitable, give a tramp on the side of a road a tenner, bet few of you would do that.

    Go home, Jean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    I donate from time to time but only to stuff I feel strongly about and where I know that organisation/individual/whoever is really going to utilise that money and is in need of it, usually a smaller organisation where the people themselves are already giving as much as they can, no charity needs to get rich. People too flippantly give to popular charities or charities they really know nothing about who may have practises which are in conflict with their own. The ice bucket challenge took the biscuit ¬_¬

    Giving your time is the better option, looking for something like that at the minute if it's feasible


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    It is best to give to a registered charity where all the money goes to disadvantaged people, such as Eton College in the UK (No. 1139086).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,238 ✭✭✭Deank


    --LOS-- wrote: »
    I donate from time to time but only to stuff I feel strongly about and where I know that organisation/individual/whoever is really going to utilise that money and is in need of it, usually a smaller organisation where the people themselves are already giving as much as they can, no charity needs to get rich. People too flippantly give to popular charities or charities they really know nothing about who may have practises which are in conflict with their own. The ice bucket challenge took the biscuit ¬_¬

    Giving your time is the better option, looking for something like that at the minute if it's feasible

    This shít just took the biscuit.
    100's of thousands spent on marketing, kindly get fúcked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭doc11


    Deank wrote: »
    I do like donating to the bank of "ME"

    Charities are a business, people need to get paid, only a tiny percentage of the funds go where the people who donate think they're going to.

    A bit like fund raising to go abroad to "build" houses spending thousands on flights even though you have zero building experience. What must the africans think? watching young ones going on holiday in the name of charity.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    Deank wrote: »
    This shít just took the biscuit.
    100's of thousands spent on marketing, kindly get fúcked.

    The WWF absolutely takes the piss...

    one quick look at the site....

    "how you can make a change"
      buy FSC labelled products
      buy sustainable forest products
      use responsibly sourced wood
      turn off electronics, burn less oil/gas
      recycle

    How can you claim to care about the amazon rainforest and be completely oblivious to the number 1 cause of its destruction, animal ag. How about they tell people what not to buy instead of what to buy. They're a joke of an organisation and they don't need your money so stop making them rich.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 littlebuddy84


    Yes I donate to animal charities but that's about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    --LOS-- wrote: »
    The WWF absolutely takes the piss...

    one quick look at the site....

    "how you can make a change"
      buy FSC labelled products
      buy sustainable forest products
      use responsibly sourced wood
      turn off electronics, burn less oil/gas
      recycle

    How can you claim to care about the amazon rainforest and be completely oblivious to the number 1 cause of its destruction, animal ag. How about they tell people what not to buy instead of what to buy. They're a joke of an organisation and they don't need your money so stop making them rich.

    Probably use unrecycled paper to make their merchandise too :D :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    It is a sad indictment of our mammon-worshipping society that the most vulnerable depend on charity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,238 ✭✭✭Deank


    doc11 wrote: »
    A bit like fund raising to go abroad to "build" houses spending thousands on flights even though you have zero building experience. What must the africans think? watching young ones going on holiday in the name of charity.


    And coming back here riddled with Ebola, fúcking do gooders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Not really but I give often to homeless around Galway.
    "Charity starts at home"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Deank wrote: »
    And coming back here riddled with Ebola, fúcking do gooders.


    I'm highly offended anyway, not sure about what yet but I get the feeling that post is offensive, I'll get back to you on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,238 ✭✭✭Deank


    wazky wrote: »
    I'm highly offended anyway, not sure about what yet but I get the feeling that post is offensive, I'll get back to you on it.

    Hopefully it's part of a round trip to Sierra Leone.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My favourite charity is Oxfam, they do fantastic work in many different areas.

    Every couple of years I donate my (fast growing) hair to a charity that makes low-cost wigs for cancer sufferers and others who have lost their hair through illness. Real hair wigs are often unethical and usually cost thousands, putting them out of reach of many and this charity makes them at a fraction of the usual cost. I get people to sponsor my hair by the inch and then donate both the hair and the money raised over the two year cycle.

    I try do it in spring because my neck feels very cold in winter when I sport the pixie cut :).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭TheSheriff


    I never do......ever

    Miserable fecker I must be


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Is giving books to Oxfam considered charity?

    They never pay me!


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I donate regularly, and Id say most people I know do too. Lot of people doing a lot of good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    We give household stuff we no longer want to the NCBI all the time. Sometimes if we have a lot we will split it between them and Sue Ryder


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭Tiddlypeeps


    But why? I imagine it's a very difficult job being the CEO of a massive charity organisation, perhaps employing someone who has a large salary, but is also very good at their job, isn't actually a bad thing? I imagine there's a better chance of a CEO on a high salary being great at their job and therefore actually bringing in a lot of money than a CEO on average industrial wage.

    These CEO's could easily up and leave if their pay was cut, as long as they're doing a good job I don't really care if they're getting paid above the average industrial wage. Take MSF for example, their CEO is on €110000 a year, and in 2010 they raised €209116366, sounds like he's doing a good job, doesn't it?

    www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2014/06/16/the-highest-paid-ceos-are-the-worst-performers-new-study-says/

    I don't agree that the cut off point should be the average industrial wage, but anything over twice it is taking the piss a little bit and very much wasting donation money.

    I don't donate to charities because of the amount of corruption within a lot of them. If their were stricter regulations about them being more transparent with where exactly the money goes then I would consider. Some charities only end up spending single digit percentages of the revenue they generate on the actual cause itself. Everything else is spent on administration and marketing. This means that those charities purely exist to keep the people within them in jobs, and often well paid ones that that, with the odd token gesture towards the actual cause they are supposed to be helping.

    I'm sure there are some great charities out there, it's just impossible for me right now to tell which ones are which.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    I have people working around me who earn peanuts, so every so often i give them 20-100 Euro... At least i know that I'm helping someone directly with no commission taken by anyone.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    We give household stuff we no longer want to the NCBI all the time. Sometimes if we have a lot we will split it between them and Sue Ryder

    Ohh, that's a very deserving charity, the NCBI do some fantastic work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    Ohh, that's a very deserving charity, the NCBI do some fantastic work.
    They have done great things for my wife


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,895 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    Every month. Plus of course chucking change into the charity box.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Yeah, gave to an animal shelter today in fact. You know these people are out not getting paid anything and they weren't aggressive chugging at you or anything and often house/pay for these animals themselves, as well as not getting government funding. I hate the paid chuggers harassing you.

    For human charities it's more complicated as there are so many bad charities I wouldn't give to a lot of mainstream ones as the money is wasted and they are not great imo. Things like the gates foundation are a lot better but it's hard to give them money, you have to go through a process and probably want to give a lot. In general rich philanthropist ones are quite good though. I'd be interested in a centralised rating of charities here like some sites I see on American charities.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 650 ✭✭✭handbagmad


    I don't donate money but rather food, blankets to my local animal rescue.
    I buy a few tins extra each week and drop them out once I've a stash built up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,238 ✭✭✭Deank


    handbagmad wrote: »
    I don't donate money but rather food, blankets to my local animal rescue.
    I buy a few tins extra each week and drop them out once I've a stash built up.

    :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 650 ✭✭✭handbagmad


    Deank wrote: »
    :eek:

    very funny a stash of dog food and blankets.

    :P


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    handbagmad wrote: »
    I don't donate money but rather food, blankets to my local animal rescue.
    I buy a few tins extra each week and drop them out once I've a stash built up.

    Great idea !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭smellmepower


    I help out, and shake a few buckets at matches for the Irish Street League and Homeless World Cup team (who are incidentally representing Ireland in Chile next week at the Homeless World Cup!)

    I don't have the money to be setting up Direct Debits with the big charities like Amnesty, Concern etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    wazky wrote: »
    Just sperm.

    And the charity is an old sock.
    Must be a fair hum off it by now :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭coolemon


    No, I never give to charity. I generally subscribe to the views of Oscar Wilde on the matter:

    "The majority of people spoil their lives by an unhealthy and exaggerated altruism – are forced, indeed, so to spoil them. They find themselves surrounded by hideous poverty, by hideous ugliness, by hideous starvation. It is inevitable that they should be strongly moved by all this. The emotions of man are stirred more quickly than man’s intelligence; and, as I pointed out some time ago in an article on the function of criticism, it is much more easy to have sympathy with suffering than it is to have sympathy with thought. Accordingly, with admirable, though misdirected intentions, they very seriously and very sentimentally set themselves to the task of remedying the evils that they see. But their remedies do not cure the disease: they merely prolong it. Indeed, their remedies are part of the disease.

    They try to solve the problem of poverty, for instance, by keeping the poor alive; or, in the case of a very advanced school, by amusing the poor.

    But this is not a solution: it is an aggravation of the difficulty. The proper aim is to try and reconstruct society on such a basis that poverty will be impossible. And the altruistic virtues have really prevented the carrying out of this aim. Just as the worst slave-owners were those who were kind to their slaves, and so prevented the horror of the system being realised by those who suffered from it, and understood by those who contemplated it, so, in the present state of things in England, the people who do most harm are the people who try to do most good; and at last we have had the spectacle of men who have really studied the problem and know the life – educated men who live in the East End – coming forward and imploring the community to restrain its altruistic impulses of charity, benevolence, and the like. They do so on the ground that such charity degrades and demoralises. They are perfectly right. Charity creates a multitude of sins.

    There is also this to be said. It is immoral to use private property in order to alleviate the horrible evils that result from the institution of private property. It is both immoral and unfair
    ." - Oscar Wilde


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    I have regular standing order forms for WWF for Nature and Gorta.
    I also sometimes donate to the Irish Red Cross - especially for the Syrian Crisis. There are over 1 million refugees in Lebanon alone. Thats the equivalent of 12 million in Germany which is a much richer nation.
    Irish Charities are getting very aggressive though. Constantly demanding more.

    On the other hand the WWF are just happy to receive your money and tell you what they are doing with your money and send you a stcker ever year. My kind of charity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭murphm45


    I have regular standing order forms for WWF for Nature and Gorta.
    I also sometimes donate to the Irish Red Cross - especially for the Syrian Crisis. There are over 1 million refugees in Lebanon alone. Thats the equivalent of 12 million in Germany which is a much richer nation.
    Irish Charities are getting very aggressive though. Constantly demanding more.

    On the other hand the WWF are just happy to receive your money and tell you what they are doing with your money and send you a stcker ever year. My kind of charity.

    I give money every month (I used to do it through work but when they stopped i started doing it myself and generally split it between a few different charities) but this really gets on my wick so much so that if i ever get a letter, phone call or any other form of requesting communication from a charity I immediately stop sending them money end of.

    It might seem harsh (and probably is) but i almost feel like I'm being bullied into giving them money which i don't like and if they're wasting my money on these poxy communication what else are they wasting it on? The reason it annoys me so much is because i give them money every month and while i don't have a standing order if i miss a month (due to other unforeseen expenditure) I'll always pay double the next month.

    Sorry for the rant, I obviously needed to get that off my chest!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭SkyBlueClouds


    I donate my time and effort to charitable causes by volonteering. Not giving money to unaccountable NGO's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    I work fulltime for a charity , Ive been working for different charities for a few years, different types of services.I do a little voluntary work as well for them from time to time.

    It never ceases to amaze me how generous people are particularly during these difficult recent years.
    I understand people's hesitance around donating money , Im wary myself of donating cash however most charities these days particularly those involved in frontline services will gratefully accept non perishable foods , decent quality clothing and if you have a skill or talent even your time as a volunteer.


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