FSA Divisional Comparison

01-10-2014 2:27pm #1

Just thought it might be beneficial to compare the 4 leagues, see which is the most competitive and that sort of thing. I swear I'm not doing this because of the great start I've made or anything!!

This is open to anyone to pull whatever stats etc they want from it, so feel free. For a start, anyway, here's the 4 leagues themselves.....

Premiership
Championship
League One
League 2

.............. Pre - Cha - L1 - L2
Highest -- 328 - 320 - 326 - 362
Lowest -- 278 - 259 - 270 - 269
Pts Diff --- 50 -- 61 - 56 - 93
Average - 306 - 310 - 309 - 307
Top 5 Av. 333 - 329 - 328 - 340

Okay, that table was a pain in the hole, but it's done now.

01-10-2014 2:35pm

League two is where it is at!

Weird that the top of the premier league is less than the top five average

01-10-2014 3:03pm

Yeah, there's a couple of anomalies throughout the leagues. In this case it's because the 2nd, 3rd and 4th placed teams have a higher overall pts score than the leader, who essentially got lucky with his matches. Sure, in the Premier league, the 2nd highest pts scorer has only won half his matches!!!

Swiper the fox · 01-10-2014 4:16pm

It was only a matter of time before the jealous minions created a thread like this, we'll see what it looks like at the end of the season:D;)

Swiper the fox · 01-10-2014 4:42pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Just thought it might be beneficial to compare the 4 leagues, see which is the most competitive and that sort of thing. I swear I'm not doing this because of the great start I've made or anything!!

This is open to anyone to pull whatever stats etc they want from it, so feel free. For a start, anyway, here's the 4 leagues themselves.....

Premiership
Championship (to be added)
League One
League 2

.............. Pre - Cha - L1 - L2
Highest -- 328 - 320 - 326 - 362
Lowest -- 278 - 259 - 270 - 269
Pts Diff --- 50 -- 61 - 56 - 93
Average - 306 - 310 - 309 - 307
Top 5 Av. 333 - 329 - 328 - 340

Okay, that table was a pain in the hole, but it's done now.

Feckit shifty, I was actually going to ask who that colossus of FPL was that was hammering all round him in division 4 until I had a closer look and realised it was yourself:pac:

01-10-2014 5:07pm

Yeah, i was afraid of the accusations that the only reason i'm getting involved in this is because I've gotten off to a cracking start, but feck it. It's open source, anyway. Everybody can pick whatever stats they want from the lot.

Edited the OP to include the championship link.

FrClintPower · 01-10-2014 8:11pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yeah, i was afraid of the accusations that the only reason i'm getting involved in this is because I've gotten off to a cracking start, but feck it. It's open source, anyway. Everybody can pick whatever stats they want from the lot.

Edited the OP to include the championship link.

While we're at it, the FSA Qualifying League's leader (*ahem*) is on 351, top 5 average 345...

Swiper the fox · 01-10-2014 8:16pm

And a lad who played with Porthmadog in the Welsh league once won the European golden boot, he was no Marco Van Basten and you are no swiper the fox, you little upstart:mad::p

Honestly the reason I was delighted to get into the Premier is because it will be so hard to do it by getting promoted year on year. Oh and this is the league ye all want to be in:pac:

01-10-2014 9:58pm

FrClintPower wrote: »

While we're at it, the FSA Qualifying League's leader (*ahem*) is on 351, top 5 average 345...

Yeah, but there's 65 of you fcukers :pac::D

06-10-2014 5:46pm

Okay, so every team in all 4 divisions has now been beaten at least once, with every team in the Prem having tasted defeat at least twice.

On the other side of things, everybody has also won at least one match, with League 1's bottom placed teams having 2 wins each.

The alabama hotpockets in League one are leading the pace with a measly 375 points, while that sort of score would only be good enough for ~11th place in League 2.

Chic's XI are the most hard done by, having amassed a whopping 406 pts but being beaten three times and knocked into 5th place in their league. This would be enough to top 2 of the other leagues and place second in the remaining one.

Early days yet though, and all still to play for.

21-10-2014 10:20pm

.............. Pre - Cha - L1 - L2
Highest -- 478 - 499 - 495 - 497
Lowest -- 395 - 365 - 390 - 373
Pts Diff --- 83 -- 133 - 105 - 124
Average - 441 - 440 - 443 - 436
Top 5 Av. 463 - 460 - 467 - 484

So League 2 has the highest average of its top 5 teams.
League 1 has the highest average of all its teams.
Championship has the biggest difference between top and bottom teams.
Prem is the tightest of all of the leagues, with the difference between Champions and bottom being a measly 83 points.

Some weird stats for this week:

Dynamo Bumbles 09 are the biggest giant killers - 9th in league 2 with a measly 383 points (lower than the lowest scoring team in L1 and Prem. The highest scoring overall team, Bunch of Goons, currently lie 4th in the Championship.....3 points outside the promotion spots. In the Premiership, the team in joint 5th (IDontKnowWhatImDoing) have amassed just 3 points more than the team who are rock bottom (Leeds the Way). Leeds the way have a cumulative points difference of -56, meaning they their average loss is by just 7 points. This includes one loss by two pts, and two losses by a single point :eek: Talk about ripped off. There have been 3 draws so far, one in each league except League 2.
Century Club
Bunch of goons - 103 gw8
Wat' Schlupp - 100 gw8

CSF · 22-10-2014 2:21pm

Deleted User wrote: »

.............. Pre - Cha - L1 - L2
Highest -- 478 - 499 - 495 - 497
Lowest -- 395 - 365 - 390 - 373
Pts Diff --- 83 -- 133 - 105 - 124
Average - 441 - 440 - 443 - 436
Top 5 Av. 463 - 460 - 467 - 484

So League 2 has the highest average of its top 5 teams.
League 1 has the highest average of all its teams.
Championship has the biggest difference between top and bottom teams.
Prem is the tightest of all of the leagues, with the difference between Champions and bottom being a measly 83 points.

Some weird stats for this week:

Dynamo Bumbles 09 are the biggest giant killers - 9th in league 2 with a measly 383 points (lower than the lowest scoring team in L1 and Prem.

The highest scoring overall team, Bunch of Goons, currently lie 4th in the Championship.....3 points outside the promotion spots.

In the Premiership, the team in joint 5th (IDontKnowWhatImDoing) have amassed just 3 points more than the team who are rock bottom (Leeds the Way).

Leeds the way have a cumulative points difference of -56, meaning they their average loss is by just 7 points. This includes one loss by two pts, and two losses by a single point :eek: Talk about ripped off.

There have been 3 draws so far, one in each league except League 2.

Century Club
Bunch of goons - 103 gw8
Wat' Schlupp - 100 gw8

Impressive.

Mint Sauce · 23-10-2014 12:08am

Deleted User wrote: »

.............. Pre - Cha - L1 - L2
Highest -- 478 - 499 - 495 - 497
Lowest -- 395 - 365 - 390 - 373
Pts Diff --- 83 -- 133 - 105 - 124
Average - 441 - 440 - 443 - 436
Top 5 Av. 463 - 460 - 467 - 484

So League 2 has the highest average of its top 5 teams.
League 1 has the highest average of all its teams.
Championship has the biggest difference between top and bottom teams.
Prem is the tightest of all of the leagues, with the difference between Champions and bottom being a measly 83 points.

Some weird stats for this week:
Dynamo Bumbles 09 are the biggest giant killers - 9th in league 2 with a measly 383 points (lower than the lowest scoring team in L1 and Prem. The highest scoring overall team, Bunch of Goons, currently lie 4th in the Championship.....3 points outside the promotion spots. In the Premiership, the team in joint 5th (IDontKnowWhatImDoing) have amassed just 3 points more than the team who are rock bottom (Leeds the Way). Leeds the way have a cumulative points difference of -56, meaning they their average loss is by just 7 points. This includes one loss by two pts, and two losses by a single point :eek: Talk about ripped off. There have been 3 draws so far, one in each league except League 2.

Century Club
Bunch of goons - 103 gw8
Wat' Schlupp - 100 gw8

Erm, thanks. I think.

27-11-2014 8:51pm

.............. Pre - Cha - L1 - L2
Highest -- 725 - 742 - 741 - 754
Lowest -- 596 - 588 - 564 - 561
Pts Diff -- 129 - 154 - 177 - 193
Average - 663 - 660 - 654 - 643
Top 5 Av. 687 - 706 - 711 - 689

Interesting that the highest overall scorer, and the lowest are both in League 2. The overall averages in each league are as you'd expect, but the Top 5 average is all over the place. A few peeps at the top of Prem getting lucky with their matches, methinks!!

Edit: No new additions to the century club

Century Club
Bunch of goons - 103 gw8
Wat' Schlupp - 100 gw8

28-11-2014 12:28am

Get your stats out for the lads!!

Still no draws in League 2, but both the Prem and Champo have a team that has drawn twice so far.

Bunch of Goons have dropped to 5th, despite amassing a total of 742pts (2nd in the 4 divisions). They have 73 pts more than the leader of their league.

Highest ranked team with <600pts: Kilburns Kids - 12th in L1 with 599

Lowest ranked team with 700+ pts: Jorneymen - 9th in the Prem with 701
(Journeymen also with the wooden spoon award for 21pts in week 5)

It's tough at the top award: FriendsInLoewPlaces - No fewer than 4 teams joint top in the Prem, with a further 4 teams within 5 pts, and 6 more within 6 pts of the leaders. That is 14 teams within two wins of being temporary Premiership Champions 2014/15.

iroced · 28-11-2014 1:20am

Deleted User wrote: »

That is 14 teams within two wins of being temporary Premiership Champions 2014/15.

Sounds more like Champions League second round than PL

. Yeah... we're just THAT good :pac: =>

Swiper the fox · 16-12-2014 3:10pm

What's the latest on this? Anybody care to do up the stats?

16-12-2014 8:23pm

I'll have a bash at it seeing as it's my baby. Been up to my eyeballs with college assignments and exams the last few weeks. Finished yesterday and had a pint or 7 afterwards so should get it done this week.

wonski · 20-12-2014 3:14am

Deleted User wrote: »

I'll have a bash at it seeing as it's my baby. Been up to my eyeballs with college assignments and exams the last few weeks. Finished yesterday and had a pint or 7 afterwards so should get it done this week.

You still busy? There are some interesting stats to be looked at - see below

30-12-2014 2:06am

.............. Pre - - Cha - - L1 - - L2
Highest -- 1097 - 1077 - 1089 - 1103
Lowest -- 943 - - 899 - -864 - - 864
Pts Diff -- 154 - - 178 - - 225 - -239
Average - 1022 - 1006 - - 995 - -977
Top 5 Av. 1045 - 1022 - 1071 - 1052

The average scores for each of the leagues are still in descending order, as you'd expect. The difference in average between Prem teams and L2 teams now stands at a whopping 45 points.

Century Club

Greensausages - 107 gw18 - Championship
Bunch of goons - 103 gw8 - Championship
Wat' Schlupp - 100 gw8 - League 1

30-12-2014 2:25am

Stats time:

League 2:
We finally got our first drawn match in gw 18
Highest placed team on <1000 pts = True Blues in 4th (987)
Lowest Placed team on >1000 pts = Ramsey Brigadier in 10th (1001)
Teams within 9 pts of leading pack = 7

League 1:
The Bojann Davisons running away with this league, now 9 pts clear of the rest and 12 clear in the race for promotion.
Highest placed team on <1000 pts = the Craggy Islanders in 7th (980)
Lowest Placed team on >1000 pts = Wat' Schlupp in 17th! (1007)
Teams within 9 pts of leading pack = a measly 3

Championship:
New holders of the "Its tough at the top award" with everybody taking points off each other.
Highest placed team on <1000 pts = The Gooners in 2nd (939!!)
Lowest Placed team on >1000 pts = The Eh Team in 16th (1013)
Teams within 9 pts of leading pack = a whopping 14

Premiership
Break-away pack has started to gather momentum now, in this toughest of leagues.
Highest placed team on <1000 pts = Thunderdog in 14th (997)
Lowest Placed team on >1000 pts = Journeymen in 15th (1051)
Teams within 9 pts of leading pack = 8

21-05-2015 11:14am

21-05-2015 11:36am

21-05-2015 12:01pm

Century Club

Name|League|GW|Score
Swiper the Fox|Pr|31|119
Maigheo|L1|31|111
Greensausage|Ch|18|107
Unkymo|L2|36|107
Unkymo|L2|34|106
Tom k|Ch|36|104
Hackers|Ch|8|103
Decoda|Ch|23|103
Unkymo (again!!)|L2|31|102
Skippy15|Ch|28|101
Monkey Island King|Pr|28|101
Fowler87|L1|8|100

So, no manager got more than 100 twice this season, except for Unkymo who did it three times in 5 gameweeks. Hats off to you, sir, even if one of them was against me.

Sorry about the lack of updates since Xmas, but it's pretty time consuming trawling through the 4 leagues, especially when people change their team name mid-season. The only reason i did it this morning is i'm supposed to be studying for exams.

unkymo · 21-05-2015 2:25pm

I think your after confusing me and wonski over the 3 centuries scored, it was me in L2 (Club 121).

21-05-2015 2:47pm

apologies, you're dead right, all that trawling looking for Boards usernames has me going gaga.

Swiper the fox · 21-05-2015 3:05pm

Good work shifty, how did are the leagues working out for overall points scored, I remember you did something to work this out before.
Was the average highest in the premier league and so on, at one stage the league 2 was performing very well in the overall rankings?

Hackers · 21-05-2015 5:07pm

I had 104 in gameweek 34 or 35 so I managed it twice!

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Century Club

Name|League|GW|Score
Swiper the Fox|Pr|31|119
Maigheo|L1|31|111
Greensausage|Ch|18|107
Unkymo|L2|36|107
Unkymo|L2|34|106
Tom k|Ch|36|104
Hackers|Ch|8|103
Decoda|Ch|23|103
Unkymo (again!!)|L2|31|102
Skippy15|Ch|28|101
Monkey Island King|Pr|28|101
Fowler87|L1|8|100

So, no manager got more than 100 twice this season, except for Unkymo who did it three times in 5 gameweeks. Hats off to you, sir, even if one of them was against me.

Sorry about the lack of updates since Xmas, but it's pretty time consuming trawling through the 4 leagues, especially when people change their team name mid-season. The only reason i did it this morning is i'm supposed to be studying for exams.

21-05-2015 7:29pm

Hackers wrote: »

I had 104 in gameweek 34 or 35 so I managed it twice!

Nuts, i'll fix that tomorrow along with the avg pts etc. Anything to avoid studying, what..... You should see how clean the gaff is.

thunderdog · 21-05-2015 7:51pm

Any spreadsheet gurus fancy checking the average overall points for each Fsa league-see which division comes out on top

Swiper the fox · 21-05-2015 8:08pm

thunderdog wrote: »

Any spreadsheet gurus fancy checking the average overall points for each Fsa league-see which division comes out on top

I'm interested in this also
Premier league average of all 20 players is 2126 points which would be an overall rank about 17,000.

F1ngers · 21-05-2015 9:02pm

League 2 average is 2044.
67K ranking.

PARlance · 21-05-2015 9:29pm

Average Points per League

Prem League: 2,126
Championship: 2,099
League 1: 2,074
League 2: 2,044

Very evenly gapped but in perfect order.

jimmii · 21-05-2015 9:36pm

What was the Q league?

PARlance · 21-05-2015 9:44pm

jimmii wrote: »

What was the Q league?

Q League 1,993

But that league contains 58 players

jimmii · 21-05-2015 9:53pm

PARlance wrote: »

Q League 1,993

But that league contains 58 players

How about the top 20? Hard to make a fair comparison really!

PARlance · 21-05-2015 11:29pm

jimmii wrote: »

How about the top 20? Hard to make a fair comparison really!

On the phone now so can't check / remember. Think it was higher than the prem average but as you say it's hard to make a fair comparison. The top 20 out of 58 is always going to be really high.

We'll just have to wait and see how they handle themselves in the world of head to head

Depending on how many get through to League 2... it's going to be incredibly hard to get promoted next year. With the talent coming in, and possibly quite a bit of it, it could leap frog a league or two when next years averages are done.

zarquon · 21-05-2015 11:45pm

jimmii wrote: »

How about the top 20? Hard to make a fair comparison really!

Average for top 20 of qualifying league is 2167, 7.7K ranking

jimmii · 22-05-2015 8:02am

zarquon wrote: »

Average for top 20 of qualifying league is 2167, 7.7K ranking

Wow shows how hard it is to get out of there!

Swiper the fox · 22-05-2015 8:52am

PARlance wrote: »

Average Points per League

Prem League: 2,126
Championship: 2,099
League 1: 2,074
League 2: 2,044

Very evenly gapped but in perfect order.

That's a bit freaky to be honest, it is almost perfect.

Re The qualifying league, the only fair comparison is to average all 58 teams, you could then compare that to the average of the top three leagues and see where the general standard is.

PARlance · 22-05-2015 9:38am

Swiper the fox wrote: »

That's a bit freaky to be honest, it is almost perfect.

Re The qualifying league, the only fair comparison is to average all 58 teams, you could then compare that to the average of the top three leagues and see where the general standard is.

I think there are a few inactive teams towards the bottom of the 58... whereas I don't think there are any inactives in the main leagues... so a fairer comparison might be to exclude maybe 8 or so teams and do a Top 50.... Ara who cares

All that needs to be known is that it's an incredibly hard league to qualify from, there will be loads of solid players still playing non league footy next year.

FSA Divisional Comparison

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