Fire on M50 North

CianRyan

Been sitting between Tallaght and Ballymount for 45 minutes thanks I a truck carrying bails of hay catching fire.

I hate trucks now.

R.O.R

CianRyan wrote: »

Been sitting between Tallaght and Ballymount for 45 minutes thanks I a truck carrying bails of hay catching fire.

I hate trucks now.

God knows what time I'll get home. Jppt leaving Tallaght for Drogheda.

Not going to be fun.

Dord

R.O.R wrote: »

God knows what time I'll get home. Jppt leaving Tallaght for Drogheda.

Not going to be fun.

Take the backroads!

R.O.R

Dord wrote: »

Take the backroads!

That's the plan, but taking a while to get to them.

Maynooth, ratoath then home is where I'm hoping my nav will take me.

R.O.R

R.O.R wrote: »

- Jppt leaving Tallaght for Drogheda.-.

Is that a one off or a daily gig?

R.O.R

Augeo wrote: »

Is that a one off or a daily gig?

Daily.

Made it to ratoath

Safe home

Sobanek

CianRyan wrote: »

Been sitting between Tallaght and Ballymount for 45 minutes thanks I a truck carrying bails of hay catching fire.

I hate trucks now.

Been sitting between N7 and N4 for as long.

endacl

Jaysus. New record. 2:40 from Talllaght to Ballyfermot. Greenhills Rd and Walkinstown roundabout were some craic....

visual

It is ridiculous it took so long not long home myself glad I didnt have to try go N7 to N4 and get back on it

BohsCeltic

Left fonthill at 6.30 and decided to go through Lucan, traffic was mad there aswell exiting the N4 so took the next exit which was the same so went back down the N4 to chapelizod and that was just as bad :mad:

Thank god i had half a tank of petrol, over 1 1/2 hours for a 10km journey

antodeco

Anyone know what its like now? Meant to be finished work at 5:30! Need to get from Leopardstown to Ballyfermot. Its a 2 hour delay apparently!

How/Why is it taking so long to clear? The fire happened at 3:30!

BohsCeltic

antodeco wrote: »

Anyone know what its like now? Meant to be finished work at 5:30! Need to get from Leopardstown to Ballyfermot. Its a 2 hour delay apparently!

How/Why is it taking so long to clear? The fire happened at 3:30!

It was still closed when i passed over the bridge at Castleknock at about 8.20pm and traffic was at a standstill

ifaptwohanded

antodeco wrote: »

Anyone know what its like now? Meant to be finished work at 5:30! Need to get from Leopardstown to Ballyfermot. Its a 2 hour delay apparently!

How/Why is it taking so long to clear? The fire happened at 3:30!

It's an absolute joke that the whole City comes to a standstill with traffic backed up everywhere over this and 5hrs later the M50 is still closed with no sign of it reopening. I drove past it just after 19:00 and there was no flames just a few lads from what i could see cleaning up the bails of hay on the side.

Just read they expect it to reopen at 22:00 lol! Absolute joke!

endacl

Good thing it happened today. Fire brigade would have to pay for all that water tomorrow!

:pac:

Professey Chin

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/517037493385195520

Heroditas

Still blocked then? That would explain why the Outer Ring Road is backed up from the north end to well south if Penny Hill.
You'd expect to see that at 8.30am, not 8.30pm!

R.O.R

Got home just after 20.00, so 2 1/2 hours - looks like me route was one of the quicker ones.

Radio was reporting 2 hours from Ballymount to Blanchardstown exit on the M50, then still would have had to go up the N3, back down on to the M50, to the M1 and another 30 mins from there.

I do think my Sat Nav has a cruel streak. Took me about 8km's along this road:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4057095,-6.5243569,3a,75y,353.48h,82.67t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sOE9OniQT72H4Xrte5gj0KA!2e0?hl=en

While it's getting dark and starting to rain.

Really Garmin? That's the best road to take? Thankfully, the only traffic I met coming the other way were bicycles.

crosstownk

CianRyan wrote: »

Been sitting between Tallaght and Ballymount for 45 minutes thanks I a truck carrying bails of hay catching fire.

I hate trucks now.

Apparently it's straw - not hay. Not that that makes life any easier........:D

CianRyan

crosstownk wrote: »

Apparently it's straw - not hay. Not that that makes life any easier........:D

Like I could tell you the difference.

Simonigs1.0

CianRyan wrote: »

Been sitting between Tallaght and Ballymount for 45 minutes thanks I a truck carrying bails of hay catching fire.

I hate trucks now.

We must have been close by to one another.

****ing awful that was.

Irish Steve

People have such short memories.

The M50 was like that most days before the toll barriers were replaced by the barrier free system.

bladespin

Irish Steve wrote: »

People have such short memories.

The M50 was like that most days before the toll barriers were replaced by the barrier free system.

I remeber taking the back roads from Navan to Portlaois or Naas in the old days to avoid the M50, went the Naas route this evening after a warning from the mrs, sure brought back memories, does show how good a job they finally did with the M50 compared to then bit of a pain how there's no reasonable alternative though.

BMJD

ifaptwohanded wrote: »

It's an absolute joke that the whole City comes to a standstill with traffic backed up everywhere over this and 5hrs later the M50 is still closed with no sign of it reopening. I drove past it just after 19:00 and there was no flames just a few lads from what i could see cleaning up the bails of hay on the side.

Just read they expect it to reopen at 22:00 lol! Absolute joke!

I have no idea what the particular issue is with this but there are often loads of problems that arise whenever there is an incident like this one. One example that one of the maintenance lads was telling me about before was when they were trying to clear an overturned truck they have to get the ESB/Eirgrid to shut down overhead powerlines because there is a risk that they could arc to the crane and blow stuff up. This can take hours - and this is after they can actually get the equipment through to the incident.

I would presume that with a fire, they have to investigate the cause of it to try and make sure it doesn't happen again, or to see who or what might be to blame.

The Royal Scam

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Tropheus

3.5 hours from Sandyford to Donabate. Came off at Lucan at 6 p.m. as the M50 was going nowhere. Lucan was a car park so decided to steer clear of Blanch. Went via Ratoath and Ashbourne.

visual

Took them some time to sort it out, must have been one fire man stamping out the flames by foot.

micks_address

left citywest at 5.30 got to lusk at 7.55... went up first exit off n7 towards lucan - then adamstown - then lucan then on to clonee..

was thinking maybe i would have been better heading south on m50 and try and get across to the eastlink and port tunnel but probably would have been bad to.. ah well.. good intro to the madness october usually brings on the m50...

Miscreant

I thankfully avoided all this yesterday as I finished work before the fire.
Was there no Garda presence on the roads to direct traffic considering this had such an impact? Surely the Traffic Corp or some other arm of the Gardai should have had the cop on (pardon the pun) to be out there assisting on the roads parallel to the M50.
I drive the M50 every day and it just beggars belief the chaos that something like this can cause in this day and age. It certainly does not help when both sides of the motorway can be either blocked or on a severe go slow when someone is broken down in the hard shoulder, never mind several tonnes of hay or straw going up in smoke.

emmiou

I was 4 and a half hours getting from Red Cow to Sutton. Utter madness - ended up in Clonee as the turn offs from N3 to Blanchardstown were so congested. Don't understand why, if the accident happened at 3:30, were we all allowed to get stuck from the on-ramps onwards an hour+ later??

Motorcycle accident on the N3/Navan Road heading city bound at Blanchardstown just after 8pm - does anyone know if he is okay?

Skatedude

3 hours to get home from leixlip to glasnevin. N4 was a disaster. Speed van near the m50 junction, but a hundred yards after garda van there was a car crash with people lying on the grass possibly injured and the garda van just sat there trying to catch speeders in slow moving traffic and wouldn't even get out of the van to check on the car crash.

Farther up there were road rage incidents due to people sitting for hours on the n4 while hundreds of drivers were using the bus lanes, bottle been thrown etc. and again, not a guard in sight anywhere helping deal with the traffic or anything?

where were they all ?

Hal1

It's the same story every time. Floods, snow, fire, this country has no way to deal with them in a timely efficient manner. The whole fecking place has to come to a complete stop.

ironclaw

It actually concerns me that a single accident on the M50 can close down Dublin. Not being funny but if you targeted a few key junctions with even minor crashes, you could shut down Dublin pretty quick.

We have no EMS response in this country. We just close the road and to hell with the traffic.

ThisRegard

ironclaw wrote: »

We have no EMS response in this country. We just close the road and to hell with the traffic.

How could have you left the road open ? First, and more importantly, the emergency crews needed to be protected while doing their jobs. You then had the danger of smoke limiting visibility. Cars driving by would also swirl the hay around pulling it all over the road. Then you'd have the condition of the road itself, for such a big fire I would have though the road surface beneath would be damaged quite badly.

realdanbreen

CianRyan wrote: »

Been sitting between Tallaght and Ballymount for 45 minutes thanks I a truck carrying bails of hay catching fire.

I hate trucks now.

Yet another reason why I would hare to live in Dublin.:D
Culchie life is the life for me.

renofan

Irish Steve wrote: »

People have such short memories.

The M50 was like that most days before the toll barriers were replaced by the barrier free system.

Ya, when my now wife and I were dating, she lived in England. I used to fly over once a month and would have to take a half day on the Friday to have enough time to get from Newbridge to the airport for my flight which was at 8pm! Can do it in 45 mins now.

endacl

realdanbreen wrote: »

Yet another reason why I would hare to live in Dublin.:D
Culchie life is the life for me.

We were grand here, until a lorry load of culchie stuff arrived.

ironclaw

ThisRegard wrote: »

How could have you left the road open ? First, and more importantly, the emergency crews needed to be protected while doing their jobs. You then had the danger of smoke limiting visibility. Cars driving by would also swirl the hay around pulling it all over the road. Then you'd have the condition of the road itself, for such a big fire I would have though the road surface beneath would be damaged quite badly.

Absolutely EMS crews need to be protected but at the same time, we can't have Traffic Corp lolly gagging around. Traffic needs to kept moving and roads / detours need to be placed. We have the technology and infrastructure to do it. We just need the will power and common sense at the higher levels to implement it. Granted there are scenarios where road closure is inevitable but its becoming increasingly common to close the M50 for accidents with tail backs hitting the M11 / Cherrywood. Given the close proximity of other routes and ring roads, there is no reason why traffic couldn't be kept moving even if at a slower pace.

realdanbreen

endacl wrote: »

We were grand here, until a lorry load of culchie stuff arrived.

Is it true that ye also pay more for ye're houses?

ThisRegard

ironclaw wrote: »

Given the close proximity of other routes and ring roads, there is no reason why traffic couldn't be kept moving even if at a slower pace.

I was listening to Livedrive and keeping an eye on their twitter, the ring roads were used and all filled up fairly quickly, I think the Lucan one was pretty much back to Tallaght and Clonee became gridlocked. Maynooth to Dunboyne became the best alternative at that point. Just volumes of traffic became a problem. It wasn't helped by people unaware of the problem and then wondering why they were sitting on the M50 for ages.

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crosstownk wrote: »

Apparently it's straw - not hay. Not that that makes life any easier........:D

Hay is dried grass wilw straw is the dried stalks of cereal crops and not used as feed.
I'm glad I was home yesterday

my friend

Disgraceful response and clean up times. Inquiry needed.

lovelyhurler

Here's another part of the problem.

People NOT reading the overhead signs or paying attention to traffic reports on the radio.

Then they wonder what the hell is going on when their sitting there for hours on end.

lovelyhurler

my friend wrote: »

Disgraceful response and clean up times. Inquiry needed.

In order to put out a hay/straw fire you have to spread it out in order to make sure that the innards are extinguished. Stuff like that could burn for days on end.

celticbest

Did Ballymount to Swords in 1:20 left work @ 4:45

Took Long Mile onto Nangor Road then right onto LeFanu Road, right onto Kylemore Avenue then left onto Kylemore Road went straight though at the R/A then went down the left lane to the bottom of the hill into Chapelizod taking a left onto the Lucan Road then a right into Glenaulin through the estate to Belgrove then left back onto the Lucan road (saving myself about 20mins by the look of the queue if I had of stayed in the right lane going down the hill into Chapelizod). Got to Chapelizod took a left over the Liffey then a right onto Chapelizod Road & a left into the Park, I then took Military Road onto Acres Road up the R/A where I went right onto Chesterfield Avenue and went down to the Wellington R/A at which I took a left to get to North Road up to the gate to Blackhorse Avenue where I took a right and then a left at Nephin Road, I then went across the Navan Road & up to the next R/A & went straight through onto Fassaugh Avenue then took a left onto Broombridge Road & and straight till I got to Ballyboggan Road where I took a left. I then went right at the next turn onto the Ratoath Road up as far as Tolka Valley road which I turn right onto then I took the next left onto the Cardiffsbridge Road all the way into Mellowes Road into Finglas Village and then onto the Seamus Ennis Road where I took a left at ‘Superquinn’ on McKee Avenue which I followed to the top then took a right onto the St. Margaret’s Road going by Charlestown up to the R/A at which I took a left following St. Margaret’s Road by the back of the Airport & Keeling’s then left at the R/A onto the Ballyboughal Road up by Knocksedan then right at Leas Cross up to the Brackenstown Road into Swords…..

ironclaw

ThisRegard wrote: »

I was listening to Livedrive and keeping an eye on their twitter, the ring roads were used and all filled up fairly quickly, I think the Lucan one was pretty much back to Tallaght and Clonee became gridlocked. Maynooth to Dunboyne became the best alternative at that point. Just volumes of traffic became a problem. It wasn't helped by people unaware of the problem and then wondering why they were sitting on the M50 for ages.

They were used but from what I heard, and I wasn't on the route myself, unmanned. Open to correct if I'm wrong, but a Garda should have been at every single junction and a proper detour implemented with priority to M50 traffic transiting to the N4 / Airport etc. In those times, you can't just funnel traffic down a ring road. You need to open junctions and keep it moving.

With a little co-ordination its not impossible. Granted, we'll still have tailbacks, delays, idiots and road rage but its not helped by a somewhat ineptitude from the people who should be reducing transit times.

Caliden

lovelyhurler wrote: »

Here's another part of the problem.

People NOT reading the overhead signs or paying attention to traffic reports on the radio.

Then they wonder what the hell is going on when their sitting there for hours on end.

What are their alternatives?

Every side road was pretty much the same. It took me 1.5 hours to get from Citywest to Lucan and I even detoured to Celbridge to avoid traffic.

When the water main burst at Newlands during the summer I was 2.5 hours which is why I went Celbridge this time.

It was going to take you 2+ hours to get home no matter what route you took yesterday evening, longer if you waited on the M50.


The m50 is at capacity and if that incident didn't show that then nothing else will.

traco

That was horrific for anyone caught yesterday. I passed the truck at around 4pm yesterday (poxed lucky). It was on the hard shoulder with the rear row of straw bales just catching fire. There were several lads that ad pulled in with fire extinguishers trying to out it out. Fair play to them.

As I passed I was thinking they might get lucky as they had dropped the rear tailgated and back row had seperated back fom the main load but obivoulsy luck wasn't on their side. They had just unhooked the tractor unit at that time and were pulling it away from the trailer.

Wonder how it go started, although any spark in dry straw being faned by the moving air would run away very quickly.

Pataman

Dundrum to Blanch took me a whole 45 mins






BTW I am on a motorbike:D

realdanbreen

I really don't know what ye would do if ye lived in or near a real city like London, New York, Mumbai or Bejing!

ThisRegard

realdanbreen wrote: »

I really don't know what ye would do if ye lived in or near a real city like London, New York, Mumbai or Bejing!

The Tube, Subway, etc.