46% of farmers in favour of the death penalty for child rapists

Hitchens

The Irish Examiner/ICMSA survey found that 46% of farmers felt the ultimate sanction should be introduced for child rape. The Rape Crisis Network of Ireland said it was encouraging that the problem of sexual violence in Ireland was being taken seriously by all sectors of society.


Fair play to the farming community, let's hope this gathers momentum now!

Penny Tration

I hope it doesn't gather momentum. I'm glad we don't have the death penalty here.

anncoates

Any word on the opinions of the Irish sheepdog community on this divisive issue?

The Dagda

54% of farmers don't agree with death penalty.

I'm with the sensible majority...

wazky

Too easy an out for those cretins, castration with a rusty shears and incarceration for the rest of their life would be better, and real time not this twenty year crap and out in fifteen.

Timberrrrrrrr

Hitchens wrote: »

The Irish Examiner/ICMSA survey found that 46% of farmers felt the ultimate sanction should be introduced for child rape. The Rape Crisis Network of Ireland said it was encouraging that the problem of sexual violence in Ireland was being taken seriously by all sectors of society.


Fair play to the farming community, let's hope this gathers momentum now!

Because there are sections of society that DON'T take child rape seriously?

GTDolanator

peadophiles and child molesters SHOULD be put down.That kind of monster cannot be ''reformed''

harney

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Because there are sections of society that DON'T take child rape seriously?

The paedophiles?

VinLieger

green_screen wrote: »

I hope it doesn't gather momentum. I'm glad we don't have the death penalty here.

Criminals are not afraid of the Irish justice system any more.

Bring back capital punishment and real life sentences.

Also introduce castle doctrine for peoples homes so a burglar actually needs to think good and hard about breaking into someones house and they cant then sue if they are injured by the homeowner in defense of their own property and family

Sunnyisland

This is bull.

Saipanne

harney wrote: »

The paedophiles?

I'd imagine they also take it seriously.

Penny Tration

VinLieger wrote: »

Criminals are not afraid of the Irish justice system any more.

Bring back capital punishment and real life sentences.

Also introduce castle doctrine for peoples homes so a burglar actually needs to think good and hard about breaking into someones house and they cant then sue if they are injured by the homeowner in defense of their own property and family

Life sentences actually meaning life, I'm totally in agreement with. The punishments meted out to rapists are laughable. But death penalty? Nope.

longshanks

Where do vegetarians stand on this issue?

OldMrBrennan83

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Timberrrrrrrr

harney wrote: »

The paedophiles?

Hardly a "section of society"

teggers5

The death penalty is the only answer for pedophiles. Do people honestly think they can be "cured" by spending a few years locked
up in a 5 star hotel, ie. irish prison...

VinLieger

green_screen wrote: »

Life sentences actually meaning life, I'm totally in agreement with. The punishments meted out to rapists are laughable. But death penalty? Nope.

Im not sure about death sentences for all rapists, however I do think it is definitely applicable in some cases. The Human race has turned out some seriously fvcked up individuals that we would be a lot better off without and I really don't want to have to pay for their incarceration when there is absolutely zero chance of rehabilitation

D-FENS

anncoates wrote: »

Any word on the opinions of the Irish sheepdog community on this divisive issue?

Yes, I’d like to hear from more professional demographics on other important issues too, like what do the milkmen think of abortion? Are fish mongers in favour of a person's right to die?

VinLieger

anncoates wrote: »

Any word on the opinions of the Irish sheepdog community on this divisive issue?

Apparently they think its pretty RUFF

whiskeyman

longshanks wrote: »

Where do vegetarians stand on this issue?

They've yet to lettuce know their views.

Timberrrrrrrr

anncoates wrote: »

Any word on the opinions of the Irish sheepdog community on this divisive issue?

They think all of the BAAAAAAAAAHHHHD people should be locked away.

pickarooney

Most paedophiles are themselves victims of child abuse so the most sensible course of action would be to execute the victims before they grow up and become the perpetrators.

No?

whiskeyman

D-FENS wrote: »

like what do the milkmen think of abortion?

They want to get their pint herd on this matter

D-FENS wrote: »

Are fish mongers in favour of a person's right to die?

They believe there's a time and a plaice for euthenasia

Duggy747

Death by smelly wellies

Backstreet Moyes

VinLieger wrote: »

Criminals are not afraid of the Irish justice system any more.

Bring back capital punishment and real life sentences.

Also introduce castle doctrine for peoples homes so a burglar actually needs to think good and hard about breaking into someones house and they cant then sue if they are injured by the homeowner in defense of their own property and family

This has to be the most stupid law of all time. It's bad enough somebody breaks into your house, but if you defend your family you also have to be mindful not to hurt them too bad. If you do you will be sued and your more likely to end up behind bars then them. No wonder burglary's are so common these days, with the law on there side.

Amirani

Death penalty for paedophilia = lots more dead children.

Son Of A Vidic

Hitchens wrote: »

The Rape Crisis Network of Ireland said it was encouraging that the problem of sexual violence in Ireland was being taken seriously by all sectors of society.

All sectors? I wasn't aware that child rape was a tolerated practice amongst the farming community prior to this survey.

Wossack

Im really interested on what librarians think of the issue - when are the complete results being published?

Arbiter of Good Taste

Personally I think any paedophile should be strung up and castrated with a rusty, blunt knife, but do not agree with death for child (or any kind of) rape.

Unless you have the death penalty for murder, what's to stop the rapist from disposing of their victim? Dead men/women/children can't talk, right? Better a "life" sentence for murder than a death sentence for rape.

So, you're starting on a slippery slope at that point

Buona Fortuna

Hitchens wrote: »

The Irish Examiner/ICMSA survey found that 46% of farmers felt the ultimate sanction should be introduced for child rape. The Rape Crisis Network of Ireland said it was encouraging that the problem of sexual violence in Ireland was being taken seriously by all sectors of society.


Fair play to the farming community, let's hope this gathers momentum now!

GTDolanator wrote: »

peadophiles and child molesters SHOULD be put down.That kind of monster cannot be ''reformed''

Great, but if you have the maximum penalty for rapists, and peadophiles, you encourage said offenders to become murders and thus make subsequent conviction far more difficult.

Successful prosecutions for rape and sexual assault are pretty low in anycase with a live witness. It becomes even more difficult without one!

pickarooney

Arbiter of Good Taste wrote: »

Unless you have the death penalty for murder, what's to stop the rapist from disposing of their victim? Dead men/women/children can't talk, right? Better a "life" sentence for murder than a death sentence for rape.

I imagine it's a bit simplistic to regard paedophiles through such a simple prism. I'm sure many of them would consider murder an unthinkable crime while seeing nothing wrong with what they're doing themselves.

BoJack Horseman

Belarus is the only country in Europe that still has the death penalty.

It ain't coming back.

So this is all moot.

humanji

I'm sorry, but is there more background to this survey? Were only farmers asked? And why?

VinLieger

humanji wrote: »

I'm sorry, but is there more background to this survey? Were only farmers asked? And why?

Ploughing championships im guessing

YFlyer

Hitchens wrote: »

The Irish Examiner/ICMSA survey found that 46% of farmers felt the ultimate sanction should be introduced for child rape. The Rape Crisis Network of Ireland said it was encouraging that the problem of sexual violence in Ireland was being taken seriously by all sectors of society.


Fair play to the farming community, let's hope this gathers momentum now!

Is there a breakdown in the percentages between farmers that slaughter (some of) their own livestock and those that don't?

GLaDOS

The death penalty doesn't prevent crime, states in the US with no death penalty for homicide see a lower rate of murder than states with the death penalty.

It doesn't save money

In the event of a wrongful conviction, there's no bringing someone back to life.

I'd have no sympathy for the death of a child rapist, but I will never support the death penalty. It doesn't satisfy anything other than an urge for revenge.

mikom

Hitchens wrote: »

The Irish Examiner/ICMSA survey found that 46% of farmers felt the ultimate sanction should be introduced for child rape.

Less child rape, more oilseed rape, I say.

humanji

VinLieger wrote: »

Ploughing championships im guessing

Ah right. Makes sense now. Sort of...

Buona Fortuna

pickarooney wrote: »

I imagine it's a bit simplistic to regard paedophiles through such a simple prism. I'm sure many of them would consider murder an unthinkable crime while seeing nothing wrong with what they're doing themselves.

Simplistic! Simple prism - on this forum. I think you're after challending someone to a duel

AnonoBoy

And how do paedophiles feel about EU headage payments?

osarusan

What a stupid survey.

whiskeyman

AnonoBoy wrote: »

And how do paedophiles feel about EU headage payments?

Goat farmers have been known to groom kids for years you know...

Mal-Adjusted

Is the "death penalty" thread up there with the "dole" thread, "should Ireland join the U.K." thread and "Where's the GAA's money?" thread at this stage? Though public servants seem to be off the hook for a while.

Mikros

It always amazes me how people will denounce the criminal justice system as useless on one hand and then argue for the same system to administer the death penalty on the other.

RobertKK

So a majority of farmers are against the death penalty.

Grayson

Hitchens wrote: »

The Irish Examiner/ICMSA survey found that 46% of farmers felt the ultimate sanction should be introduced for child rape. The Rape Crisis Network of Ireland said it was encouraging that the problem of sexual violence in Ireland was being taken seriously by all sectors of society.


Fair play to the farming community, let's hope this gathers momentum now!

Meanwhile they continue to support placing the catholic church in charge of large numbers of children.

Arbiter of Good Taste

Grayson wrote: »

Meanwhile they continue to support placing the catholic church in charge of large numbers of children.

I was wondering how long it would take for this tired old strawman to appear

Egginacup

Hitchens wrote: »

The Irish Examiner/ICMSA survey found that 46% of farmers felt the ultimate sanction should be introduced for child rape. The Rape Crisis Network of Ireland said it was encouraging that the problem of sexual violence in Ireland was being taken seriously by all sectors of society.


Fair play to the farming community, let's hope this gathers momentum now!

At a guess I'd say there are 150,000 farmers in Ireland which equates to about 3.5% of the population. So 46% of farmers = a whopping 1.6% of the population support the death penalty for child rape

Good luck with your "momentum"

foggy_lad

Hitchens wrote: »

The Irish Examiner/ICMSA survey found that 46% of farmers felt the ultimate sanction should be introduced for child rape. The Rape Crisis Network of Ireland said it was encouraging that the problem of sexual violence in Ireland was being taken seriously by all sectors of society.


Fair play to the farming community, let's hope this gathers momentum now!

How many farmers over the years Battered, raped and buggered young boys and girls who were "farmed out" to them from industrial schools and orphanages?

osarusan

I'd assumed that ICMSA was some company that carried out valid surveys, but it seems that it's actually the Irish Creamery Milk Suppliers Association.

Arbiter of Good Taste

foggy_lad wrote: »

How many farmers over the years raped and buggered young boys and girls who were "farmed out" to them from industrial schools and orphanages?

WTF! :eek:

I read somewhere once that a child is more likely to be sexually abused by a teacher than a priest (and, ergo, a farmer). Now, I have never been abused, or know of anyone abused by a teacher, but that doesn't matter. Most teachers are obviously sexual offenders.

See, it's very easy to make outrageous claims.