Puncture in car park

mozattack · 22-09-2014 4:35pm #1

Hi,

I am parked in Dublin city center and have a puncture. Luckily I don't need car until Friday and my spare is a real tyre but what do I do?

Does AXA call out cover this? If not, what the hell?

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 22-09-2014 4:42pm

Change the tire?

Interslice · 22-09-2014 4:48pm

EazyD · 22-09-2014 4:50pm

Pull up carpet in boot, remove spare wheel and jack and tyre iron, which should be under the wheel or beside it. Jack car carefully on flat surface, at the jacking points (which are usually located six or so inches back from the front wheel/ or 6 forward for back wheel).

* Loosen nuts before carefully raising it, remove original wheel, replace with spare and re-tighten nuts back into position firmly.

djimi · 22-09-2014 4:52pm

EazyD wrote: »

Pull up carpet in boot, remove spare wheel and jack and tyre iron, which should be under the wheel or beside it. Jack car carefully on flat surface, at the jacking points (which are usually located six or so inches back from the front wheel/ or 6 forward for back wheel).

Once it's been elevated safely on jack, remove the nuts (either 4 or 5 depending on car), carefully remove original wheel, replace with spare and re-tighten nuts back into position firmly.

Loosen the nuts before jacking the car up.

custom_build · 22-09-2014 4:53pm

EazyD wrote: »

Once it's been elevated safely on jack, remove the nuts

You'd have a hard time removing the nuts with the wheel elevated

EazyD · 22-09-2014 4:53pm

djimi wrote: »

Loosen the nuts before jacking the car up.

My bad, forgot that bit

sjb25 · 22-09-2014 4:57pm

custom_build wrote: »

You'd have a hard time removing the nuts with the wheel elevated

Aw Nottin worse when u forget and have to let it down again especially with the sh1t winding jacks grrrrrrrr

mozattack · 22-09-2014 4:58pm

Thanks but I can't so it. Even if I could.those nuts are put on by machine and impossible to remove sometimes

monkeysnapper · 22-09-2014 4:58pm

I've heard some call outs come under flat battery's or if you put wrong fuel in . Maybe roadside assistance covers coming out to change a wheel ..? Yes/no

Choodefat · 22-09-2014 4:58pm

Put on HANDBRAKE before all else...

sjb25 · 22-09-2014 4:59pm

monkeysnapper wrote: »

I've heard some call outs come under flat battery's or if you put wrong fuel in . Maybe roadside assistance covers coming out to change a wheel ..? Yes/no

Say so give em a ring sure they will tell u have always changed my own but did call them out for a flat battery tho had no jump leads

EazyD · 22-09-2014 5:05pm

sjb25 wrote: »

Aw Nottin worse when u forget and have to let it down again especially with the sh1t winding jacks grrrrrrrr

I seem to always do that when I'm in the biggest rush and just need the damn thing on. Then cuss the feckin scissor jack when it's my own stupidity!

monkeysnapper · 22-09-2014 5:08pm

EazyD wrote: »

I seem to always do that when I'm in the biggest rush and just need the damn thing on. Then cuss the feckin scissor jack when it's my own stupidity!

Been there brother ! I'm so stupid I spent ages the other night changing bulb in car because it was awkward to fit it in and realised when I eventually put it in I put same back in . If there's a dumb thing to do your pretty sure I'd have done it before most people

OldMrBrennan83 · 22-09-2014 5:08pm

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mozattack · 22-09-2014 5:27pm

Why do people poke fun at you cos you can't change a tyre. If I poked fun at people who don't know finance I'd be sacked

mikehunts · 22-09-2014 5:29pm

Righty tighty, lefty loosey

Stheno · 22-09-2014 5:32pm

mozattack wrote: »

Thanks but I can't so it. Even if I could.those nuts are put on by machine and impossible to remove sometimes

Perhaps get a friend to help you or see can you buy/borrow a longer tool to give you more leverage getting the nuts off?

And yes breakdown assist will cover this, I had a blowout last year and could not get the wheel off the car, and they covered coming out, changing the wheel etc. And my policy was also with Axa

mozattack wrote: »

Why do people poke fun at you cos you can't change a tyre. If I poked fun at people who don't know finance I'd be sacked

Well it's fairly basic car maintenance knowledge do you not think? It can sometimes be very difficult to get the nuts loosened/off especially if they have been machine tightened. I've learned to ask to have the nuts hand tight if I'm getting wheels changed.

custom_build · 22-09-2014 5:33pm

mozattack wrote: »

Why do people poke fun at you cos you can't change a tyre. If I poked fun at people who don't know finance I'd be sacked

I would say you could fairly easily teach a four year old the process of changing a tyre, i'm not sure that they could grasp the complexities of the financial market. That might be the difference.

monkeysnapper · 22-09-2014 5:50pm

If you can't help the op stay out of the thread, I may be back seat modding but I hate seeing people made to feel stupid . If op comes on here for help then help him or her . If you can't help then just go for a browse around after hours

sjb25 · 22-09-2014 5:52pm

EazyD wrote: »

I seem to always do that when I'm in the biggest rush and just need the damn thing on. Then cuss the feckin scissor jack when it's my own stupidity!

Me to nightmare did it and it was p1ssing rain aswell

sjb25 · 22-09-2014 5:53pm

monkeysnapper wrote: »

If you can't help the op stay out of the thread, I may be back seat modding but I hate seeing people made to feel stupid . If op comes on here for help then help him or her . If you can't help then just go for a browse around after hours

I did tell the OP that mine does and to ring and they will confirm and they will fix it no problem

kingtut · 22-09-2014 6:06pm

Call your boyfriend and ask him to help you? Or see if there is a business near by that could give you a hand? Hope you get sorted anyway!

Stheno · 22-09-2014 6:07pm

Also are you parked in a car park where you have to pay? If you are you'll be fleeced if you leave it there till Friday

Interslice · 22-09-2014 6:20pm

custom_build wrote: »

I would say you could fairly easily teach a four year old the process of changing a tyre, i'm not sure that they could grasp the complexities of the financial market. That might be the difference.

People working in the finance sector are more likely to be mechanically challenged in my experience. On paper highly intelligent but couldn't fix a puncture on a bike, change a wheel etc. no matter how many times you show them. At the same time I can swap out any part on a car but wouldn't have a clue what principle interest or any of that other jargon they use means.

goz83 · 22-09-2014 7:48pm

Nowadays, if you can't show the driving tester that you know how to check the oil (and other basic things), you fail your driving test. Not being able to remove a wheel is pretty bad tbh, as it really is so basic. I can understand if the wheel is hidden under the car, but if the excuse is "the nuts are tight" and the person cannot ask for a little help from someone with stronger arms, then that person should not be driving. Being able to change a tyre is about safety.

mozattack · 22-09-2014 7:54pm

The last time I got a puncture the lad who changed the tyre had to use their machine, couldn't do it manually.

The machine locks the nuts on too tight for manual extraction. Excuse the innuendo

mozattack · 22-09-2014 7:55pm

Thanks for those who helped BTW, will ring insurance company in am

BarryD · 22-09-2014 7:56pm

mozattack wrote: »

Thanks but I can't so it. Even if I could.those nuts are put on by machine and impossible to remove sometimes

Well this is what I do.

Next time, get the spanner out and put it on a wheel nut. Remember that to tighten, it goes clockwise, to loosen anti clockwise.

So set the spanner so that it's going to turn anticlockwise and about horizontal or pointing a little upwards even. Make sure the spanner is seated well on the nut. Now stamp on the end of the spanner - a good firm thump with your heel - don't fall over. That should loosen the nut. Repeat for each nut and continue as above.

When refitting the nuts, repeat in reverse but not too tight.

Even if you get out of this wee fix, take time some day to practice. You never know when it'll come in handy!

goz83 · 22-09-2014 8:14pm

mozattack wrote: »

The last time I got a puncture the lad who changed the tyre had to use their machine, couldn't do it manually.

The machine locks the nuts on too tight for manual extraction. Excuse the innuendo

:pac::pac::pac:

Maybe if you apply a bit of lubricant, the nuts will come out.

_Kaiser_ · 22-09-2014 8:17pm

OP, yes rescue cover should look after this

I've been in similar situations in the past - one was my driveway where the nuts had been overtightened by an airgun, the second was on the M3 in the dark when the right rear tyre blew out (and unlike the first example I didn't even try to sort it myself.. kneeling in the dark with your back to cars moving at 120 km/h is not a good idea just to be all manly)

You pay for rescue cover so don't be afraid to use it

Del2005 · 22-09-2014 8:29pm

mozattack wrote: »

The last time I got a puncture the lad who changed the tyre had to use their machine, couldn't do it manually.

The machine locks the nuts on too tight for manual extraction. Excuse the innuendo

You can always remove the nuts manually, you just need a longer lever if it doesn't work the first time.

First thing I do with any new car I get is stick a proper cross brace in the boot after getting caught out with the brace supplied with a car that couldn't open the air spannered nuts.

Esel · 22-09-2014 8:31pm

I thought every reply in this thread would be from good samaritans offering to help a damsel in distress (presuming the OP is a fair damsel...)

_Kaiser_ · 22-09-2014 8:37pm

Esel wrote: »

I thought every reply in this thread would be from good samaritans offering to help a damsel in distress (presuming the OP is a fair damsel...)

Indeed (and this will be unpopular but I see it all the time here with "noob"/non-"regular" posts), instead most people seem more interested in berating the OP for not knowing how/being able to change the tyre themselves.

Considering the response if the OP had been clamped would be more of the White Knight variety I'm disappointed to be honest.

Motors just isn't what it used to be these days

greasepalm · 22-09-2014 8:46pm

if the car has alloy wheels joe soap may have problems removing them as they corrode on and i use a lump hammer when on ramp to remove them,hitting rubber tyre only.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2eV0_Ex-iE
and for the person that cannot do a wheel change how about blowing up tyre as it may get you to local garage to get wheel changed.
https://www.google.ie/search?q=12v+tyre+inflator+compressor&client=firefox-a&hs=NwW&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=44kgVLL-FMac7gb9v4CADA&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=667

of course slicing wheel it will be of no use then.
working cigarette lighter or crocodile clips usually supplied but please check.

Esel · 22-09-2014 8:52pm

Good idea on the 12v compressor - Large Tescos have them for about €14. Might be from €20 up in a motorfactors.

Often the puncture is a 'slow' one, and you can re-inflate the wheel using the compressor. Just be sure not to run it for more than 5 minutes at a time, as they can overheat and burn out. Stop and let it cool down, then carry on inflating. I carry two compressors in the boot, and have not had to change a wheel in years. Drive to the tyre shop, let them remove/repair/refit. Ask them not to overtighten the nuts.

Tigger · 22-09-2014 8:58pm

Esel wrote: »

Good idea on the 12v compressor - Large Tescos have them for about €14. Might be from €20 up in a motorfactors.

Often the puncture is a 'slow' one, and you can re-inflate the wheel using the compressor. Just be sure not to run it for more than 5 minutes at a time, as they can overheat and burn out. Stop and let it cool down, then carry on inflating. I carry two compressors in the boot, and have not had to change a wheel in years. Drive to the tyre shop, let them remove/repair/refit. Ask them not to overtighten the nuts.

My tyre guy always tells his fitters that I'm one of the torque wrench customers

greasepalm · 22-09-2014 9:14pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctpQ5ag0_4c

e8.99 inclusive of vat

a very good price so grab them quick.

tmg · 22-09-2014 9:18pm

mozattack wrote: »

Thanks but I can't so it. Even if I could.those nuts are put on by machine and impossible to remove sometimes

hey

so one great thing to keep in your car is one of these - http://www.halfords.ie/motoring/garage-equipment/car-tools/halfords-extending-wheel-wrench

it extends out, and will give you a lot more leverage than the standard one (and a lot more if you jump up and down on it

. its about the only thing that will shift wheel nuts that have been airgunned on.

not much help to you right now I am guessing. but for future, its a great thing to have in the boot.

Stheno · 22-09-2014 9:23pm

tmg wrote: »

hey

so one great thing to keep in your car is one of these - http://www.halfords.ie/motoring/garage-equipment/car-tools/halfords-extending-wheel-wrench

it extends out, and will give you a lot more leverage than the standard one (and a lot more if you jump up and down on it . its about the only thing that will shift wheel nuts that have been airgunned on.

not much help to you right now I am guessing. but for future, its a great thing to have in the boot.

I am one of those feebletons who have been known to use such an implement and jump up and down on it to loosen the nuts.

Works every time.

However it does look especially ridiculous if you are dressed in either a business suit or a dress and have to jump up and down on the friggin thing in heels

OldMrBrennan83 · 22-09-2014 10:45pm

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Sam Kade · 22-09-2014 10:53pm

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

Change the tire?

OSI wrote: »

Why isn't changing a tyre part of the driving test yet.

You change the wheel not the tyre

wonski · 22-09-2014 10:57pm

Sam Kade wrote: »

You change the wheel not the tyre

Changing the wheel is for amateurs, we here in the Motors forum change the tyre only;)

toastedpickles · 22-09-2014 11:04pm

Only seeing this now, OP if you're in the city centre tomorow, drop me a message and I'll see if i can help you out, I usually have all my tools in the boot of my car so it'l save you waiting around

If it's any use to you that is

Stheno · 22-09-2014 11:05pm

toastedpickles wrote: »

Only seeing this now, OP if you're in the city centre tomorow, drop me a message and I'll see if i can help you out, I usually have all my tools in the boot of my car so it'l save you waiting around

If it's any use to you that is

Finally a knight appears!

hoodie6029 · 22-09-2014 11:05pm

This isn't cheap but I have it and it's great. I check with the torque wrench and it tightens to well over the torque recommended for my wheels.
https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cir13c-1-2in-impact-wrench-kit-12v

toastedpickles · 22-09-2014 11:06pm

Stheno wrote: »

Finally a knight appears!

:pac: Jaysis far from it haha, If I was stuck I'd at least expect one of ye to at least offer like :P

beauf · 22-09-2014 11:10pm

mozattack wrote: »

The last time I got a puncture the lad who changed the tyre had to use their machine, couldn't do it manually.

The machine locks the nuts on too tight for manual extraction. Excuse the innuendo

I've yet to see one that standing on the spanner won't move. Unless you are especially light.

beauf · 22-09-2014 11:12pm

Patww79 wrote: »

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Is the tyre repairable after using that stuff?

OldMrBrennan83 · 22-09-2014 11:42pm

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Interslice · 22-09-2014 11:56pm

beauf wrote: »

I've yet to see one that standing on the spanner won't move. Unless you are especially light.

I've bounced on the end of a 600mm bar trying to get wheels nuts and bolts off and I'm not light at all.

Puncture in car park

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