Television In Decline?

fleet_admiral

....Or is it just me

I havent watched the telly in years and dont miss it. There just isnt anything intersting on any more and the only time I find myself sitting on front of it is to watch either At The Races or Racing UK if I have a bet on.
The wife watches it religiously but the crap she watches is unreal. Wife swap, Dont tell the bride, Supernanny, Fair City etc... . Awful stuff like that.

I find it much more entertaining to stick on the radio and listen to that

I dont feel im 'getting old' I just find tv crap now

Anyone agree?

SouthTippBass

It just cant compete with d'internet and streaming sites.

GLaDOS

Here comes the Breaking Bad fans

frag420

fleet_admiral wrote: »

....Or is it just me

I havent watched the telly in years and dont miss it. There just isnt anything intersting on any more and the only time I find myself sitting on front of it is to watch either At The Races or Racing UK if I have a bet on.
The wife watches it religiously but the crap she watches is unreal. Wife swap, Dont tell the bride, Supernanny, Fair City etc... . Awful stuff like that.

I find it much more entertaining to stick on the radio and listen to that

I dont feel im 'getting old' I just find tv crap now

Anyone agree?

:rolleyes: Just saying is all......

ScienceNerd

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Here comes the Breaking Bad fans

And Hannibal, and House of Cards, and The Blacklist, and The Walking Dead, and Boardwalk Empire and Game of Thrones and The Sopranos and The Wire and Mad Men many other standout tv shows.

I honestly think tv is really good at the moment, something older people seem to agree with.

The Backwards Man

I remember my Granda used to switch on the radio for the news and switch it straight off again after.

I used to think he was crazy, now I'm pretty much the same.

Badly Drunk Boy

I was reading on the radio the other day that a lot of the programmes people stream using the internetwork, is actually made for the television. That can't be true, can it?

Harry Palmr

In many respects TV has never been in ruder health - but with the good stuff comes a tsunami of bad. You just have to pick and choose.

phasers

Everyone says this but TV has been in getting better and better over the past few years. It's just that all the good stuff is airing in America so everyone just streams it online.

fleet_admiral

frag420 wrote: »

:rolleyes: Just saying is all......

I take it you dont the odd flutter?

Lucy and Harry

Love Hate will be back on soon that will liven things up.

gugleguy

Television: 'PUSH' Technology : Channels, let take RTÉ 1 broadcast (: broad-cast) or 'push' out, for instance the Late Late Show with Ryan Tubridy on Friday Night.

Youtube: 'PULL' technology: I search for a subject on youtube, and I find relevant material, and then watch it. Vimeo is pretty much the same concept.

ShadowHearth

The only time I "see" some of Tv is when I come over to my friends house for some chill out time.
I moved few weeks ago in to a new house and I don't have a single channel on my TV, but I have 3 consoles hooked up.

With YouTube, Netflix and just general movie library I got on pc I just don't see any point in tv anymore.

ancapailldorcha

Candie wrote: »

And Hannibal, and House of Cards, and The Blacklist, and The Walking Dead, and Boardwalk Empire and Game of Thrones and The Sopranos and The Wire and Mad Men many other standout tv shows.

I honestly think tv is really good at the moment, something older people seem to agree with.

Those shows are just a small fraction of what's on. You've got a huge amount of advertising along with generic nonsense, talent shows and soaps which would constitute the 90% of most channels.

PizzamanIRL

fleet_admiral wrote: »

I havent watched the telly in years

Ehhhh. Am I the only one that sees something wrong with this and the thread subject?

Pawn

fleet_admiral wrote: »

I just find tv crap now

Anyone agree?

Totally and 100%.

Haven't watched TV in a couple of years, every time I walk into the room and it's on there is a:

1) show
2) show
3) UK celebrity with IQ 60 showing off her new shoes
4) show
5) films from the 80's
6) crap TV series
7) celebrity tells a deep story about her dog having great time in California where they went for a holiday
8) blind girl on a wheelchair singing heartbreaking song in X-Factor


Even good old Discovery went to the dogs, all they do now are just them bloody shows, Gold Diggers, Wheeler Dealers, Sons Of Guns, and so on.. Bull**** for morons who believe that its all happening for real. Fathers fighting with sons over a motorcycle, dealer trying to get a decent price for a car, Christ, even thinking of that is winding me up :mad: :mad: :mad:

gugleguy

Pawn wrote: »

Totally and 100%.

Even good old Discovery went to the dogs, all they do now are just them bloody shows, Gold Diggers, Wheeler Dealers, Sons Of Guns, and so on.. Bull**** for morons who believe that its all happening for real. Fathers fighting with sons over a motorcycle, dealer trying to get a decent price for a car, Christ, even thinking of that is winding me up

Don't forget US celebrity with IQ 60 removing his shoe and showing off his bare foot on Ryan Tubridy show, last LLS season just gone.

Pawn

gugleguy wrote: »

US celebrity = IQ 60

Must be a genius :rolleyes:

Lucy and Harry

Reality tv is pretty cheap chewing gum for the eyes and shows like Big Brother should be banned.The late late show is crap.But hay on the plus side we have HD channels so we can watch it all in HD now.

Game of Thrones
Love Hate
Champions league
Sky Movies
The Walking dead
All good TV right there.

elefant

I only watch 'Pointless' on television.

Everything else I stream online.

kylith

I think there's more good telly these days than ever before. We're seeing a lot of talented actors moving away from films and it's giving TV a real boost - Laurence Fishburne and Kiefer Sutherland for example.

kfallon

The best of the lot now is MTV....they are Music Television yet they don't show any Music at all

It's all "I'm 18 and up the stink!" or 'Reality' shows like Geordie/Jersey Shore that are more heavily scripted than soap operas :rolleyes:

gramar

The problem I see is that there are 73 millions channels so how can they all show decent programmes? The quality is very thinly spread over a vast number of channels and gives the impression that most of what is on is crap.

I haven't watched TV at home for over a year...just a few series, documentaries and sports on the laptop. This way I watch what I like and the only downfall is having to think about what to watch as opposed to just flicking around and finding something.

Fishyfreak

OP is just a non-tv watching Hipster.

TV is f*ckin great, and always will be!!

Bongalongherb

How anyone can sit through all of those adverts I'll never know. I dumped the TV in a skip yars ago and it was the best thing I ever did.

Akrasia

so now you watch all your television on a 15.6 inch laptop while I watch netflix on my 51 inch plasma and can still watch tv on the off chance there's anything good on (BBC still make good documentaries every now and then)

Who's laughing now eh?

I watch tv all the time, love sitting down in the evening and flicking through the channels looking for something random to watch. I also watch a lot sport on tv and follow a number of series.

GLaDOS

Akrasia wrote: »

so now you watch all your television on a 15.6 inch laptop while I watch netflix on my 51 inch plasma and can still watch tv on the off chance there's anything good on (BBC still make good documentaries every now and then)

Who's laughing now eh?

Hook laptop up tv via HDMI, problem solved.

Shakespeare's Sister

fleet_admiral wrote: »

I take it you dont the odd flutter?

Think they just mean you're hardly in a position to make such a broad statement about TV if that's the extent of your effort.

With the endless amount of channels, there is an increase in shyte, but that's just one "genre". There's also a wide variety of great series - more than ever. I find the amount of great series overwhelming as there's so much to choose from.

But you knew this, surely.

ScumLord

TV is dead, internet streaming is brilliant.

I got rid of my tv nearly ten years ago now and watch what I want online. Anytime I go to someones house and see what TV is I don't know how people can sit through it.

Shakespeare's Sister

Streaming's great but I still like the ritual of looking up what's on TV of a night.

VinLieger

Shakespeare's Sister wrote: »

Streaming's great but I still like the ritual of looking up what's on TV of a night.

This i do like just flicking through to see if anything is on. If not ill grab the laptop and continue bashing through a series but sometimes its nice to not have to make a decision about what to watch

AMKC

I watch tv all the time. I spend more time watching tv than being online. I think tv is good these days.There is some great shows on at the moment you just have to know what to look for and watch. Falling skys,
Defient,
Arrow,
The Mentalist,
Castle,
Hell on Wheels,
The Dome,
All great tv right there and thats only the ones I can think of.
Then there is repeats of great shows like all the Star Treks and they are in HD now too and look great. So wheather its your first time to watch it or your one thosand it looks better than ever.
I agree with the poster above about the BBC they can do some great documentaries and so can TV3 and RTE sometimes too. I also like watching shows like Prime Time and getting my news from the tv.
I agree there is a lot of crap on tv too like all them crap soaps and reality tv which really is crap. Get a life stop watching crap like that people.



Reality tv is pretty cheap chewing gum for the eyes and shows like Big Brother should be banned.The late late show is crap.But hay on the plus side we have HD channels so we can watch it all in HD now.

Game of Thrones
Love Hate
Champions league
Sky Movies
The Walking dead
All good TV right there.

I have to disagree with you about Sky Movies they constantly show he same movies over and over at least thats the way it used to be and say there is new films coming.

The best of the lot now is MTV....they are Music Television yet they don't show any Music at all

It's all "I'm 18 and up the stink!" or 'Reality' shows like Geordie/Jersey Shore that are more heavily scripted than soap operas


I agree MTV is gone to the dogs. I remember when it used to actually be a music station it was much better then. But there is loads of music channels now and its over saturated if you ask me none of them are really any good.

Akrasia

ScumLord wrote: »

TV is dead, internet streaming is brilliant.

I got rid of my tv nearly ten years ago now and watch what I want online. Anytime I go to someones house and see what TV is I don't know how people can sit through it.

Well it is and it isn't.

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank the viewers of trashy reality tv and soap operas because they are the people who buy the products that support the advertising that pay the television stations so that they can pay for the quality tv programmes that make it economically viable for the likes of HBO to spend so much money making the blockbuster TV shows that the non tv owners can watch online (either on a paid streaming service or by downloading them sub-legally)

kylith

Akrasia wrote: »

Well it is and it isn't.

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank the viewers of trashy reality tv and soap operas because they are the people who buy the products that support the advertising that pay the television stations so that they can pay for the quality tv programmes that make it economically viable for the likes of HBO to spend so much money making the blockbuster TV shows that the non tv owners can watch online (either on a paid streaming service or by downloading them sub-legally)

I'd say we'll be looking at an increase in Netflix like systems where you'll subscribe to the broadcasters that you want to view, or even just the programmes that you want to watch.

ScumLord

Akrasia wrote: »

Well it is and it isn't.

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank the viewers of trashy reality tv and soap operas because they are the people who buy the products that support the advertising that pay the television stations so that they can pay for the quality tv programmes that make it economically viable for the likes of HBO to spend so much money making the blockbuster TV shows that the non tv owners can watch online (either on a paid streaming service or by downloading them sub-legally)

Isn't HBO a paid subscription channel that doesn't use advertising?

TheSheriff

Dont have a tv in the new house and while it was strange at first not having something in the background I dont miss it at all now!

If I want to see something Ill just stream it on the lappy toppy!

Also saving on a tv subscription

pippip

I'm finding Discovery channel and the likes are really over dramatising their series's to the point of un-watchable. Shows like ice road truckers, American guns etc used to be fairly interesting as they were focused on the subject at hand, now they are completely over the top with the obviously bad editing trying to make everything out to be a much bigger deal that it is.

Really cant watch them anymore.

Fallschirmjager

So I can watch what a muppet in RTE, BBC thinks I should watch in a sequence they see fit...or I can goto the web and watch whatever I like....hmmmm let me think on that...


Your tv is nothing more than a big monitor to the web, jus most people have not accepted that yet.

The big stations are dinosaurs watching the sky wondering what the big explosion was....

ixoy

So all those people who stream TV shows say they're not watching TV? The shows you download or stream are still TV shows so I would still see it as watching television just not on a standard TV channel.

bear1

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

I was reading on the radio the other day that a lot of the programmes people stream using the internetwork, is actually made for the television. That can't be true, can it?

How did you do that?! :eek:

MRnotlob606

Used to watch the History channel but that's gone to utter ****.

gugleguy

pippip wrote: »

I'm finding Discovery channel and the likes are really over dramatising their series's to the point of un-watchable. Shows like ice road truckers, American guns etc used to be fairly interesting as they were focused on the subject at hand, now they are completely over the top with the obviously bad editing trying to make everything out to be a much bigger deal that it is. .....

Once a respectable an educational channel to watch( up to 2006), the one art Discovery is emphasizing these days is the art of forward hyperbole

Fallschirmjager

ixoy wrote: »

So all those people who stream TV shows say they're not watching TV? The shows you download or stream are still TV shows so I would still see it as watching television just not on a standard TV channel.

They are different parts of the business. One side is production, the other delivery.

Of course we need companies to produce programmes but do I need a subsidised RTE to do that and deliver the content, my answer would be no.

Akrasia

ScumLord wrote: »

Isn't HBO a paid subscription channel that doesn't use advertising?

Syndicating their shows is one of their main revenue streams, so while HBO subscribers don't watch ads, when they sell the shows to other networks and other countries, those stations rely on advertising to pay HBO their license fee

Shiraz 4.99

Any night I sit down to watch the telly it's always some new release I've lined up on my USB stick.
The only reason I still have Sky is for the kids stations.

Useful.Idiot

have a smart TV in the gaff that's hooked up to a Netflix account and a PS3. Only have the terrestrial Irish tv channels on the tv box so there's very little reason to watch non-streaming tv anymore!

Yamanoto

Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »

The only reason I still have Sky is for the kids stations.

BBC, ITV, RTE & lots of other kids channels are available free to air.

I dumped Sky a few years ago & don't miss a thing about it.

krudler

I never watch tv, basic cable is absolute gash in Canada so I just download and stream everything. The idea of having to sit down at a particular time every week and watch an episode of something is swiftly becoming a defunct way to watch tv. On demand and streaming will take over at some point completely.

I lived in a house back home for over 2 years with no tv channels, we just never bothered getting it connected when we moved in, didn't miss it a bit. I just watch what I like online and ignore all the utter cack. Although that being said browsing Netflix looking for something to watch has become the new "flick through the channels until something looks good" :pac:

Akrasia

kylith wrote: »

I'd say we'll be looking at an increase in Netflix like systems where you'll subscribe to the broadcasters that you want to view, or even just the programmes that you want to watch.

There was a move to force the TV subscription services to 'unbundle' their channels to allow subscribers to choose and only pay for the channels that they actually want, but it seems like this move has been scuppered by industry lobbiests

Specialist tv channels appeal to advertisers, so while you probably never watch 'the caravan channel', camping enthusiasts might, so the advertising revenue raised on that channel might actually subsidise the cost of the channels you prefer to watch. These channels often pay the satelite or cable company to include them in their broadcast network.

I like netflix, but 95% of the content on there doesn't interest me. Yet I'm still happier to pay for all of this content than having to go down the micro transaction route of paying for individual shows that interest me (it might possibly save money, but it would reduce my enjoyment of the service)

ScumLord

pippip wrote: »

I'm finding Discovery channel and the likes are really over dramatising their series's to the point of un-watchable. Shows like ice road truckers, American guns etc used to be fairly interesting as they were focused on the subject at hand, now they are completely over the top with the obviously bad editing trying to make everything out to be a much bigger deal that it is.

Really cant watch them anymore.

They do that with all their shows though, they seem to think people get bored with what the shows actually meant to be about and start scripting in drama to keep people interested.

I used to love a show called "call of the wildman" about the turtleman in America. He was a woodsman that used to catch snapping turtles that were killing livestock on farms that had rivers or ponds on their land. He lived in shack and worked for barter.

They moved him onto catching any type of wildlife, now it just seems to be a scripted show about the adventures of turtleman and his life in the woods. Barely a turtle in sight.

I think the main difference is they try to milk a show for everything it's worth rather than move onto something else. In europe most of these shows would be a one off documentary.

I've seen them do it over and over again, there was a one off documentary called "life after humans" or something along those lines. They then turned it into a serial were they managed to get an entire season out of the content of the first show without actually saying anything new. Same with ancient aliens. A one off show that would have you wondering dragged out into a few seasons were they turn it into a certainty of rubbish.