Adrian Peterson indicted for reckless or negligent injury to a child

eagle eye

I'm just in shock at this. There always seems to be something serious in the private lives of NFL players these days.


http://www.myfoxhouston.com/story/26520182/vikings-star-rb-adrian-peterson-indicted-in-child-injury-case#.VBNYGbapZQ0.twitter

theoneeyedman

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm just in shock at this. There always seems to be something serious in the private lives of NFL players these days.


http://www.myfoxhouston.com/story/26520182/vikings-star-rb-adrian-peterson-indicted-in-child-injury-case#.VBNYGbapZQ0.twitter

Once there is no video he'll be ok

eagle eye

Its not too bad thankfully, although still wrong imo.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/12/adrian-petersons-indictment-for-swatting-son-with-a-switch/

Hulk Hands

I'm really hoping this gets kind of a 'PC gone crazy' reaction. We'll probably learn how severe the charge is soon, so it should be apparent whether AP is deserving of scorn or not. Timing is terrible

skeleton_boy

If ever there has been a week for reinforcing the typical football player stereotype.

Paully D

According to Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network, the incident in question stems from “disciplining of a son with a switch.”

For those of you unfamiliar with the Southern vernacular, a switch is a flexible tree branch used to swat a child across the backsides.

Gone are the days of getting the wooden spoon broken across you I guess :pac:

EDIT - further comment withdrawn after seeing pictures as provided by Oat23.

Oat23

Hitting a 4 year old to the point he bleeds is wrong. I don't think I am being PC here. I was disciplined as a youngster but this is too much for me.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2014/09/12/adrian-peterson-indicted-for-child-abuse/

Hazys

I think its debatable or personal taste whether a parent should hit or spank a child as discipline but drawing blood crosses the line.

helimachoptor

He won't play against the pats

Hazys

Amazing after already losing a son to child abuse earlier this year, he went too far with one of his other kids.

UnitedIrishman

That's just plain wrong. Like I think we all remember getting a wooden spoon slap once upon a time but times have changed and those injuries look far worse than just a spanking. What the **** is wrong with people.

Dohnny Jepp

Ugh, and I used to really like him. What could a 4 year old do that would deserve such severe punishment like that.

shamrock55

Fcuking animal is what he is, thats disgracefull carry on:mad:

Itssoeasy

Good god leaving aside the offenses for a second(not diminishing the events btw) but from a purely PR standpoint it's been a nightmare week for the NFL.

Paully D

Hazys wrote: »

I think its debatable or personal taste whether a parent should hit or spank a child as discipline but drawing blood crosses the line.

Yeah I'd completely agree.

I'd personally have no issue with a slap of a wooden spoon/stick etc and I thought that was all this was going to be before seeing the pictures, but he certainly crossed the line and appears to have lost control.

A ticking time-bomb.

frostie500

Hi guys, I've banned KidsRTheFuture from the forum...turns out he was a previous guest of the forum....

poldebruin

Looks like the NFL will get a chance to test their new domestic abuse policy. Lifetime ban? Poor child, imagine a 6'2" 220lb NFL athlete coming at you with a switch. What makes it even more astounding is the recent tragedy with his son being killed by abuse at the hands of his step father last year.

The more I read about it the worse it gets, apparently the photos were taken a week after the event. The (4 year old) kid had 20 cuts on his thighs, scrotum, back and hands, that he pulled his pants down and put leaves in his mouth while he was being beaten. This could be jail for Adrian Peterson, and who could argue.

I have a 4 year old, and while I would not be against giving her a small smack on the leg when misbehaving, this is mind boggling. I can't imagine a scenario for "whooping" her or finding an object to hit her with.

JaMarcusHustle

Somebody from the NFL PR department returning after a 2 week holiday.

Son Of A Vidic

Pretty sick for a parent to beat a child with a switch. They might as well have picked up a whip ffs. As Poldebruin said, throw in a pretty powerful athlete doing the beating and it's makes it even more disturbing. We all have different backgrounds and values and looking back to my own childhood, I wouldn't change my amazing parents (RIP) for the world. On a very rare occasion, my Mother would give me a smack across the back of the legs if I really, really misbehaved. I remember once she gave me one smack that really stung me and she got very upset over it and hugged the crap out of me. She never smacked me again after that. Interestingly though, she didn't have to because I was so upset over her getting upset, that I became a virtual saint after that. One size certainly doesn't fit all when it comes to raising kids, but what Peterson did was totally sadistic imo. Between beating women and beating kids, the NFL needs to step up and sort this nonsense out and introduce severe penalties. Ridiculous to think a player will get a worse penalty for smoking pot, than he would for beating a woman or a kid.

padraig_f

Hardly needs to be said, but obviously wrong whatever your views on raising kids are. I have a nephew just turned 4, sweet kid, the idea of taking a stick to someone that age boggles the mind.

@JeremySchaap: "This is why a commissioner must be credible on issues beyond dollars and cents."

I guess something needs to be done on the NFL level, but a can of works opened a bit now because the NFL isn't a court of law. Kind of why I'm in favour of pretty coarse-grained suspensions, and let the courts handle the rest.

Unfortunately we've also got an idiot of a commissioner in charge, who came up with a new domestic violence policy seemingly overnight, as a result of how much they bungled the last case.

j8wk2feszrnpao

Just want to add to some of the comments already made.
As Covus said, there's no one way to scold a child; be it by verbally addressing the issue or perhaps a spanking (i.e. for me that means a pat on the hand/bum).

I got the wooden spoon treatment when I was young, never crossing the line (or coming close to the line) where it would enter the territory of 'beating the child'. I still love and respect my parents and understand their parenting. They both had a tough rearing and were keen not to do the same to their kids.

As someone who just became a dad, I just can't imagine a scenario where I could even approach that line (or in Petersons case where he seems to have raced across that line in an F1 car) and end up assaulting my child. It's sickening to think of it.

I can accept someone snapping and acting rashly in a moment (and still suffer consequences for those actions).
But if Peterson has inflected those injuries (which appears more than a momentarily rage), then I will never be able to see him in the same light.

If the NFL has any morals, and if those pics tell the story of this incident, I honestly don't want to see Adrian Peterson again.

eagle eye

I hadn't seen the pictures when I posted my second comment. This is horrific stuff, he deserves jail time as a punishment for this imo.

I just don't understand how anybody could do that to a child. There is no excuse.

Chucky the tree

Some week for the NFL. If reports are true it doesn't look good for Peterson. Horrible spot for the Vikings.

According to police reports, the child, however, had a slightly different story, telling authorities that "Daddy Peterson hit me on my face." The child also expressed worry that Peterson would punch him in the face if the child reported the incident to authorities. He also said that he had been hit by a belt and that "there are a lot of belts in Daddy's closet." He added that Peterson put leaves in his mouth when he was being hit with the switch while his pants were down. The child told his mother that Peterson "likes belts and switches" and "has a whooping room."

HigginsJ

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Some week for the NFL. If reports are true it doesn't look good for Peterson. Horrible spot for the Vikings.

That is just heartbreaking to read, as a dad of a 6 month old I couldn't consider what he could do to ever deserve something like that.

Considering the loss he suffered last year you would think he would cherish his baby. I know it is something that a lot of kids suffer from every day so Peterson should be treated exactly the same as all those bastards who beat or abuse kids.

HigginsJ

4:12 PM PT -- According to the police report, Peterson allegedly sent text messages to the child's mother saying he "felt bad" because he struck the kid in the testicles.

"Got him in the nuts once I noticed. But I felt so bad, n I'm all tearing that butt up when needed!" the text said.

Peterson allegedly sent a follow up text saying, "Never do I go overboard! But all my kids will know, hey daddy has he biggest heart but don't play no games when it comes to acting right."

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/12/adrian-peterson-indicted-for-child-abuse/#ixzz3DE9zNmZ2

Sounds like something that is not a one off.

Hulk Hands

If the photos are real and true then its shocking stuff. Really surprised by him. I can understand him thinking that punishment like he got will set a child in good stead, but to do it with that force to a 4 year old is disgusting. Still hoping some of the leaks are false

JaMarcusHustle

I don't buy the whole "given what happened his son last year" point of view.

He didn't know the kid existed until 2 months before he died, and even then, he never bothered to visit him until he heard the kid was on his deathbed.

eagle eye

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

I don't buy the whole "given what happened his son last year" point of view.

He didn't know the kid existed until 2 months before he died, and even then, he never bothered to visit him until he heard the kid was on his deathbed.

What do you mean? Are you saying because he only knew his other kid for short space of time it wouldn't affect him or he wouldn't have feelings for the child?

It should affect him deeply to be aware of a child dying once he knows about it, regardless of whether he was the father or not. It should him love the children he has left and cherish them all the more.

To do what he has done is disgraceful but even more so seeing when he was a father to a child who died only a short time ago.

JaMarcusHustle

eagle eye wrote: »

What do you mean? Are you saying because he only knew his other kid for short space of time it wouldn't affect him or he wouldn't have feelings for the child?

It should affect him deeply to be aware of a child dying once he knows about it, regardless of whether he was the father or not. It should him love the children he has left and cherish them all the more.

I think you're taking me up wrong. I'm not arguing with the "he should have known better" narrative, I completely agree with that. I'm arguing with the reports out there that are taking the "he lost a child to abuse, how could he then go and do the same thing?" approach, as if he went through some kind of trauma last year.

There's a difference between "losing a child" and your biological son passing away. Peterson's case last year was the latter. He made no effort to be in that child's life, emotionally or physically, so he didn't lose anything. To quote Furious Styles:

Hazys

If i met any kid and found out that he was beaten to death to a couple of weeks later, i would be affected...not to mention if i was the biological father of that kid and i was getting hounded by the media on the same subject at the same time.

Clearly AP was unaffected if he continued to "discipline" waaay to aggressively.

Im shocked at how somebody can be so reckless with kids after the previous incident.

JaMarcusHustle

Hazys wrote: »

If i met any kid.

Well there's the thing. You would have met the kid. Peterson never bothered to meet his son after he found about him. He clearly didn't care about the kid which is why the "heartbreak" narrative was corny as hell.

glued

That really is disgusting from Peterson. No doubt he'll blame his upbringing and tell us all that God will bring him through all of this.

eagle eye

We have to look at the Rice situation here again. He hit a woman and that is a disgusting thing to do, but its clear that after it happened he knew he was wrong to do it. He never left the scene and he admitted his guilt immediately too.

Peterson is different, he felt he was doing the right thing. We don't know if he has even admitted to it yet. He hit a child which is every bit as bad as hitting a woman. The thing is he knew what he was doing, the Rice thing maybe was a once off.

Peterson has to be suspended indefinitely from the NFL just like Rice imo.

Hazys

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

Well there's the thing. You would have met the kid. Peterson never bothered to meet his son after he found about him. He clearly didn't care about the kid which is why the "heartbreak" narrative was corny as hell.

But i think he did meet the kid once or twice before his death.

JaMarcusHustle

Hazys wrote: »

But i think he did meet the kid once or twice before his death.

Any reports I've seen have all said he only visited the boy on his death bed.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/sep/12/nfl-adrian-peterson-minnesota-vikings-injury-child

In a separate incident in 2013, Peterson’s two-year-old son died, allegedly at the hands of the boy’s mother’s boyfriend. Peterson had only learned of that son two months before his death, and had not ever met him.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/sports/vikings-peterson-is-booked-on-charge-of-child-abuse.html

Another boy, whom Peterson never met, was killed last October in Sioux Falls, S.D., after being assaulted.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/man-accused-killing-ap-son-charged-2nd-degree-murder-article-1.1491548

Peterson had never met his son until he visited the hospital in Sioux Falls, S.D. while the boy was on life support. Peterson first learned the child was his two months earlier.

http://www.tmz.com/2013/10/12/adrian-peterson-son-paternity-south-dakota/

Adrian Peterson only recently learned he was the father of a 2-year-old boy in South Dakota ... and met him for the first time Thursday ... while the boy was on life support, TMZ has learned.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2013/10/12/adrian-peterson-son-paternity-south-dakota/#ixzz3DIvUmWzy

eagle eye

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

Any reports I've seen have all said he only visited the boy on his death bed.

That alone is enough though. If you visit a child on his death bed, and it doesn't even have to be your own child, surely you would look at how kids need to be protected and not beaten up by you.

JaMarcusHustle

eagle eye wrote: »

That alone is enough though. If you visit a child on his death bed, and it doesn't even have to be your own child, surely you would look at how kids need to be protected and not beaten up by you.

Yeah I'm not arguing that at all as I've already pointed out. I'm arguing the point that he's not some heartbroken father who's already lost a son to abuse.

LuckyLloyd

Worth bearing in mind despite recent notable incidents:

eagle eye

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Worth bearing in mind despite recent notable incidents:

That table means nothing really. Its a convictions table that would be interesting. Its far less likely for a millionaire football player to get arrested than a guy who lives in the hood.

helimachoptor

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Worth bearing in mind despite recent notable incidents:

If you adjusted that for black males in that age range vs black males in the nfl I think you'd find an even starker difference

In Exile

eagle eye wrote: »

Peterson is different, he felt he was doing the right thing. We don't know if he has even admitted to it yet. He hit a child which is every bit as bad as hitting a woman. The thing is he knew what he was doing, the Rice thing maybe was a once off.

Peterson has to be suspended indefinitely from the NFL just like Rice imo.

He has though. Reports leaked over the weekend have said he told police what he did and hasn't been able to see what he did wrong. He feels, as he has been brought up that way, and as he has treated his other kids in that way, that he has done nothing wrong.

http://deadspin.com/report-adrian-peterson-indicted-in-child-injury-case-1634160368

Lionbacker

Vikings have just announced he's be re-activated and expected to play next Sunday

Billy86

Cris Carter, top bloke.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yjDG2j__ENI

On mobile, can't embed it.

helimachoptor

Saying it like it is

Masked Man

https://twitter.com/KHOU/status/511644523861004288

Hulk Hands

The quickest re-activation and subsequent deactivation in NFL history!

These reports were to be expected though. This wasn't an impulsive thing like Rice. Peterson obviously believed in this kind of child discipline, so is likely to have treated all his children the same way.

Oat23

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/512168167838584833

Son Of A Vidic

It was an incredibly stupid move by the Vikings to even reactivate him. A growing number of sponsors expressed their displeasure yesterday, about the NFL's handling of recent event. The Radisson Hotel group which was funded in Minnesota, also came out yesterday and announced they were suspending their sponsorship of the Vikings. No doubt this freaked the NFL out, because losing sponsors, losing business and suffering further PR damage is the last thing they want. So you can be sure Roger probably fell over himself last night, to get to the phone and twist some Vikings arms.

"While we were trying to make a balanced decision yesterday, after further reflection we have concluded that this resolution is best for the Vikings and for Adrian. We want to be clear: we have a strong stance regarding the protection and welfare of children, and we want to be sure we get this right.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000396097/article/vikings-deactivate-adrian-peterson-indefinitely

Sorry Vikings, the only 'right' decision ye were interested in making was the right Business decision. They claim to take a strong stance to support child protection. But I don't think anybody will be swallowing that. Because if they did have a genuine concern or respect for child protection. They wouldn't have reactivated him and essentially given a two fingers to his beaten son and children who have suffered similar abuse.

adrian522

The NFL should have suspended him if they wanted him not to play. Deactivating him is not the same as suspending him. As far as I know he is still being paid while he is deactivated.

It should not be up to the team to sort this out, the NFL should have stepped in.

You can be sure as well that after this is all over the NFL will slap him with a long suspension and this "deactivation" will not count towards that.

As usual little or no leadership shown by the NFL or the commissioner.

titan18

I think it's stupid that he's been deactivated. Leave the legal side go through and then punish him rather than bowing to a witchhunt

Tristram

Weird press conference. I don't know how to read that. Not sure why they even held it.

Bottom line for now is Peterson won't be playing for the Vikings again until legal matters are resolved. Wonder how long that will take. I think I read somewhere initially that there is a court date set for mid-October?