NEGATIVE ATTITUDES IN FARMERS

keep going

do farmers start with negative attitudes or does farming give to you.the amount of pure negative tripe that goes on here is frightening and I could see how it would feed into to some of the mental problems that exist the country.ifa are assholes, ifj are assholes, coops are assholes, teagsc are assholes, neighbours are assholes, larry goodman is an asshole, ff/fg/enda/simon are assholes.

frazzledhome

Sorry KG can only thank once.
The number of posters that are to be ignored grows weekly here. Do you not think that people we meet in life are the same? The difference is we chose to ignore them and just pass ourselves in a day to day basis. We should open a solutions thread

whelan2

keep going wrote: »

do farmers start with negative attitudes or does farming give to you.the amount of pure negative tripe that goes on here is frightening and I could see how it would feed into to some of the mental problems that exist the country.ifa are assholes, ifj are assholes, coops are assholes, teagsc are assholes, neighbours are assholes, larry goodman is an asshole, ff/fg/enda/simon are assholes.

sure we're all assholes. I just ignore alot of the ifa crap now.....

trixi2011

To be honest I think its more than the Irish farmers that at fault of being negative. I think negativity is ingrained in irish society in recent years. Moved home to Ireland in june and was completely shocked by the negativity and bitterness of some people.

Reggie.

trixi2011 wrote: »

To be honest I think its more than the Irish farmers that at fault of being negative. I think negativity is ingrained in irish society in recent years. Moved home to Ireland in june and was completely shocked by the negativity and bitterness of some people.

I think it's the upbringing in a way as anytime you chat to the auld timers around here its always something. Bad prices. Too much or little sun or rain. And everyone seems to be too concerned with what others are at compared to what's going on within their own gates.

Life's too bloody short.

bogman_bass

Farming doesn't give you a negitive attitude but farmers do!

draiochtanois

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rangler1

It's not negativity, more begrudgery, we don't like to see people that do a job well, doing well.
A story about an American walking along the beach, meets paddy who's pulling in crabs and putting them in a bucket.
Conversation went something like this
Amer: shouldn't you put a lid on the bucket, will they not get out.
Paddy: don't need a lid, they're Irish crabs.
amer: what do you mean, Irish crabs.
Paddy: well if any of them goes about get out, the rest just pull him back down

RightTurnClyde

keep going wrote: »

do farmers start with negative attitudes or does farming give to you.the amount of pure negative tripe that goes on here is frightening and I could see how it would feed into to some of the mental problems that exist the country.ifa are assholes, ifj are assholes, coops are assholes, teagsc are assholes, neighbours are assholes, larry goodman is an asshole, ff/fg/enda/simon are assholes.

Well done Keep Going and well said. The attitude on here is disgraceful. People need to stop looking out over the ditch to see who they can find to blame for their problems. Begrudging Finger pointing Ireland is well and truly alive and kicking here. People need to get off their ar*ses and get a life.

_Brian

I think the reality of running a marginal enterprise for years has recently hit home to lads and many are lashing out at the "powers that be".

On the threads as in real life I think there might be a few lads that like to wind up the whole debate, throw in a grenade and sit back and watch the fallout..

It gets tedious reading after a while.. I've no bother making my point and posting on these doomsday threads but when they drag on page after page I tune out of them.

I said

The country is full of begrudgers the hate to see anyone be anyway successful in life , because it only reminds them even more what sad,bitter and twisted whinging shower of gob****es they really are.they have opinions on everything yet when a solution is looked for they haven't a clue cause the only opinions they have is the one they got from someone else because they haven't the brain or wherewithal to get up off their holes and make something of themselves to busy watching what the lad down the road is doing and whinging about it.The green eyed monster is alive and well.

_Brian

I said wrote: »

The country is full of begrudgers the hate to see anyone be anyway successful in life , because it only reminds them even more what sad,bitter and twisted whinging shower of gob****es they really are.

THIS is to blame for allot of it :P

Dawggone

keep going wrote: »

do farmers start with negative attitudes or does farming give to you.the amount of pure negative tripe that goes on here is frightening and I could see how it would feed into to some of the mental problems that exist the country.ifa are assholes, ifj are assholes, coops are assholes, teagsc are assholes, neighbours are assholes, larry goodman is an asshole, ff/fg/enda/simon are assholes.

WELL SAID !!!!
I've a team around me and I'm hoarse from saying that I need solutions - not problems.
Massive +1!!

Deepsouthwest

Dawggone wrote: »

WELL SAID !!!!
I've a team around me and I'm hoarse from saying that I need solutions - not problems.
Massive +1!!

Does the same negativity apply in France?

Dawggone

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Does the same negativity apply in France?

It's not as bad. Mostly moaning about the hard work and long hours.

The Irish small talk about the weather, where the French talk about prices.... and holidays.

Dawggone

frazzledhome wrote: »

We should open a solutions thread

+1. That should be worth reading. Away you go.........

SIX PACK

keep going wrote: »

do farmers start with negative attitudes or does farming give to you.the amount of pure negative tripe that goes on here is frightening and I could see how it would feed into to some of the mental problems that exist the country.ifa are assholes, ifj are assholes, coops are assholes, teagsc are assholes, neighbours are assholes, larry goodman is an asshole, ff/fg/enda/simon are assholes.

Someone got up on wrong side of bed this morning.

SIX PACK

keep going wrote: »

do farmers start with negative attitudes or does farming give to you.the amount of pure negative tripe that goes on here is frightening and I could see how it would feed into to some of the mental problems that exist the country.ifa are assholes, ifj are assholes, coops are assholes, teagsc are assholes, neighbours are assholes, larry goodman is an asshole, ff/fg/enda/simon are assholes.

Someone got up on wrong side of bed this morning.

rangler1

Are people negative or realists, it's nice to be positive but there's no point building up your hopes.
Health is everything, and it's hard to be really negative when your not sick.
Is this post all a contradiction or what

Deepsouthwest

Dawggone wrote: »

It's not as bad. Mostly moaning about the hard work and long hours.

The Irish small talk about the weather, where the French talk about prices.... and holidays.

In Ireland we're too embarrassed to admit it when we go on holidays. How many times have u heard "so u we're away for a few days? Yeah, I had too, herself was giving out so I had to keep her happy, I'd've been a lot happier at home". !!!

_Brian

frazzledhome wrote: »

Sorry KG can only thank once.
The number of posters that are to be ignored grows weekly here. Do you not think that people we meet in life are the same? The difference is we chose to ignore them and just pass ourselves in a day to day basis. We should open a solutions thread

Dawggone wrote: »

+1. That should be worth reading. Away you go.........

In fairness there was an "alternative to beef" thread.. Lads are trying to think outside the box on what they can do..

Rucking_Fetard

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Does the same negativity apply in France?

Negativity being an irish thing is a crook of sh1t.

http://www.skepdic.com/negativitybias.html


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negativity_bias

Negativity bias is the psychological phenomenon by which humans have a greater recall of unpleasant memories compared with positive memories. People are seen to be much more biased to the avoidance of negative experiences. They seem to behave in ways that will help them avoid these events. With this, humans are much more likely to recall and be influenced by the negative experiences of the past.



Is farmers saying they havent two sticks to rub together an irish thing is a better question. Thats what goes on here and it feeds into everything else.

Ear to the ground does be priceless when the farmer gets asked does he make money.

Jaysus christ, some would near rather give away their first born than admit thry're making a good living out of it, while the mice are ating the euros under the mattress.

Christ the forum has a fooking grammar nazi in it 2day whinging about the spelling of spuds, the sun is shining i suppose, have to complain about something.

Gone seriously down hill.

keep going

SIX PACK wrote: »

Someone got up on wrong side of bed this morning.

Must admit I woke early this morning and flicked on the "beef crisis"thread, without a doubt there are problems there at the moment but whats going on in that thread is pointless.a small one for ye, watch in the day how many times you "should" instead of "will".people say should when they wont or cant do something but say will when they think they can do something

Feckthis

keep going wrote: »

Must admit I woke early this morning and flicked on the "beef crisis"thread, without a doubt there are problems there at the moment but whats going on in that thread is pointless.a small one for ye, watch in the day how many times you "should" instead of "will".people say should when they wont or cant do something but say will when they think they can do something

they who say they can and they who say they can"t are usually always right!

Greengrass1

Parents call me negative. Maybe I am slightly but I think I see a problem before it happens

farmerjj

keep going wrote: »

do farmers start with negative attitudes or does farming give to you.the amount of pure negative tripe that goes on here is frightening and I could see how it would feed into to some of the mental problems that exist the country.ifa are assholes, ifj are assholes, coops are assholes, teagsc are assholes, neighbours are assholes, larry goodman is an asshole, ff/fg/enda/simon are assholes.

Is this not a very negative threat?? Pot kettle black!!

whelan2

keep going wrote: »

do farmers start with negative attitudes or does farming give to you.the amount of pure negative tripe that goes on here is frightening and I could see how it would feed into to some of the mental problems that exist the country.ifa are assholes, ifj are assholes, coops are assholes, teagsc are assholes, neighbours are assholes, larry goodman is an asshole, ff/fg/enda/simon are assholes.

maybe the after hours thread of " Miserable bastard farmers " was correct

mf240

Ever listen to joe duffy on lifeline. He makes farmers look like eternal optimists.

Some people actually are assholes but thankfully only a few. And its easy enough avoid them.

ganmo

As a pessimist I find it's nice to be proved wrong.
Not sure optimists would feel the same when they're proved right

frazzledhome

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

In Ireland we're too embarrassed to admit it when we go on holidays. How many times have u heard "so u we're away for a few days? Yeah, I had too, herself was giving out so I had to keep her happy, I'd've been a lot happier at home". !!!

Lol

frazzledhome

Feckthis wrote: »

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they who say they can and they who say they can"t are usually always right!

If you think you can't do it, your are right!

Reggie.

frazzledhome wrote: »

If you think you can't do it, your are right!

Your defeated even before you try

Username John

Reggie. wrote: »

I think it's the upbringing in a way as anytime you chat to the auld timers around here its always something. Bad prices. Too much or little sun or rain. And everyone seems to be too concerned with what others are at compared to what's going on within their own gates.

Life's too bloody short.

Sorry Reg, couldn't disagree more.

The old timers I know / knew were very upbeat. They could see when prices, weather, etc were bad, but they always saw the positive. They had seen bad times before, and always pointed out that things will change, get better, not to dwell on bad or negative things...

I would have said older people always looked on the bright side... (actually, aside from one old woman I know, but I don't call to her much any more)

On the thread overall - I know both very positive and very negative farmers. In the 'real world' I think there is a mix of both...
On boards, the negative be far seems to outweigh the positive...

Reggie.

Username John wrote: »

Sorry Reg, couldn't disagree more.

The old timers I know / knew were very upbeat. They could see when prices, weather, etc were bad, but they always saw the positive. They had seen bad times before, and always pointed out that things will change, get better, not to dwell on bad or negative things...

I would have said older people always looked on the bright side... (actually, aside from one old woman I know, but I don't call to her much any more)

On the thread overall - I know both very positive and very negative farmers. In the 'real world' I think there is a mix of both...
On boards, the negative be far seems to outweigh the positive...

Fair enough. Can only speak for this side. I'd be on about my fathers generation not my grandfather s generation.

onyerbikepat

Anyone going? :D:D:D:D:D

http://www.positivefarmers.ie/

whelan2

Username John wrote: »

Sorry Reg, couldn't disagree more.

The old timers I know / knew were very upbeat. They could see when prices, weather, etc were bad, but they always saw the positive. They had seen bad times before, and always pointed out that things will change, get better, not to dwell on bad or negative things...

I would have said older people always looked on the bright side... (actually, aside from one old woman I know, but I don't call to her much any more)

On the thread overall - I know both very positive and very negative farmers. In the 'real world' I think there is a mix of both...
On boards, the negative be far seems to outweigh the positive...

i assume a good few posters post negative stuff here that they would never say out loud in real life

rangler1

Weather has a lot to do with positivity, farming is easier, sun perks you up.
even though I planned to wind down, I'm increasing sheep nos, buying extra lambing pens
really enjoyed this year with the sheep.
Have had 5 people looking at my sheep tunnel since it was in the comic,
huge increase in the interest in sheep
winning sheep farmer of the year didn't do any harm either
auctioneer used it to sell my rams yesterday in Delvin....good crack

agriman27

As mentioned before begrudgery is a very strong trait in irish people. Personally I genuinely never begrudge anyone anything especially if they worked for it and even if they got something handy I don't care! The older I get if that even within the family circle jealousy is such a dose and is sad really, narrow minded people

Reggie.

rangler1 wrote: »

Weather has a lot to do with positivity, farming is easier, sun perks you up.
even though I planned to wind down, I'm increasing sheep nos, buying extra lambing pens
really enjoyed this year with the sheep.
Have had 5 people looking at my sheep tunnel since it was in the comic,
huge increase in the interest in sheep
winning sheep farmer of the year didn't do any harm either
auctioneer used it to sell my rams yesterday in Delvin....good crack

Missed that mart

Reggie.

agriman27 wrote: »

As mentioned before begrudgery is a very strong trait in irish people. Personally I genuinely never begrudge anyone anything especially if they worked for it and even if they got something handy I don't care! The older I get if that even within the family circle jealousy is such a dose and is sad really, narrow minded people

+1
See it on a daily basis I'm afraid

rangler1

Reggie. wrote: »

Missed that mart

Thomas Potterton is good crack, has a good turn of wit.
same sense of humour as Gerald in the journal...are they brothers

Reggie.

rangler1 wrote: »

Thomas Potterton is good crack, has a good turn of wit.
same sense of humour as Gerald in the journal...are they brothers

No idea. Is he the one with the stick as the hammer

rangler1

Reggie. wrote: »

No idea. Is he the one with the stick as the hammer

and the posh voice

Reggie.

rangler1 wrote: »

and the posh voice

Did get to that mart in a while. Ya would muss the craic and banter out of him selling an animal

milkprofit

keep going wrote: »

do farmers start with negative attitudes or does farming give to you.the amount of pure negative tripe that goes on here is frightening and I could see how it would feed into to some of the mental problems that exist the country.ifa are assholes, ifj are assholes, coops are assholes, teagsc are assholes, neighbours are assholes, larry goodman is an asshole, ff/fg/enda/simon are assholes.

You are listing to the wrong people
Why not just hang with positive people

smokey-fitz

rangler1 wrote: »

Weather has a lot to do with positivity, farming is easier, sun perks you up.

Its too warm, cant work in that heat and could do with a sup of rain.. got sunburned too ffs :P

Too easy to complain..

On the plus side its friday!!! oh wait, I work all the time

A cow called Daisy

frazzledhome wrote: »

If you think you can't do it, your are right!

Similarly "If at first you don't succeed, give up" (Homer Simpson)

AP2014

I said wrote: »

The country is full of begrudgers the hate to see anyone be anyway successful in life , because it only reminds them even more what sad,bitter and twisted whinging shower of gob****es they really are.they have opinions on everything yet when a solution is looked for they haven't a clue cause the only opinions they have is the one they got from someone else because they haven't the brain or wherewithal to get up off their holes and make something of themselves to busy watching what the lad down the road is doing and whinging about it.The green eyed monster is alive and well.

Tell me about it, put up a post about making a few pound in beef to lift the gloom and doom. Jesus about 26 pages later it was still going. Lads mainly accusing me of running the place into the ground and my day would come other lads were saying. Few telling me to get over myself and anyone could do what I was doing.

Gas thing about it these were all the lads that were crying in the beef crisis thread about losing money.

stop thelights

whelan2 wrote: »

i assume a good few posters post negative stuff here that they would never say out loud in real life

I don't know! Two neighbours there are very critical of two big farmers near by. Saying there milking runts of cows, farts of cows or rats of cows. That's there starving there's cows and ANYTHING they do is wrong. Bigger parlour ohhh too much time wasting washing all the units etc. so you get the picture

It's makes no difference to me what my neighbour is doing but both these 'with runts of cows' have bought land in the last few years. Loving winding up the neighbours saying is the new machine you man has a good knowing full well he will rip them to pieces! Always makes me smile! You don't have that kinda attitude in Aus!!

Miname

zippiddy do da, zippady day. com'n everyone and we'll have a big group hug when were all finished.

Reggie.

AP2014 wrote: »

Tell me about it, put up a post about making a few pound in beef to lift the gloom and doom. Jesus about 26 pages later it was still going. Lads mainly accusing me of running the place into the ground and my day would come other lads were saying. Few telling me to get over myself and anyone could do what I was doing.

Gas thing about it these were all the lads that were crying in the beef crisis thread about losing money.

Oh Lord don't start this again :rolleyes: