Phil hogan -new E.U. farming commissioner.

jjf1974

Accordind to the front page ofhttp://independant.ie phil hogan will be the new commissioner

Dawggone

jjf1974 wrote: »

Accordind to the front page ofhttp://independant.ie phil hogan will be the new commissioner

Wonder how he will get on with rebellious French dairy farmers next spring.

A cow called Daisy

jjf1974 wrote: »

Accordind to the front page ofhttp://independant.ie phil hogan will be the new commissioner

Doubt it will make a lot of advantage to us. Ray McSharry got plenty of hassle when he was an Ag. Commissioner

Dawggone

A cow called Daisy wrote: »

Doubt it will make a lot of advantage to us. Ray McSharry got plenty of hassle when he was an Ag. Commissioner

McSharry made the tillage and beef enterprises.

RightTurnClyde

If he does get it, will it be game on for butter fat reference reduction?

foxy farmer

Probably a reward for implementing property tax and water charges here. Give him a chance and he'll be doing the same with agricultural land and bored wells. I guess he won't be running in the next general election. He'd be lynched if he went out canvassing.

_Brian

Dawggone wrote: »

Wonder how he will get on with rebellious French dairy farmers next spring.

Not very well I'd guess.. I've seen him in action and he'd be pig headed, loves to bully his own way though..

farmerjj

God help us all....

quader

he wont do irish farmers any favours anyway he is such an aragont assh56e

Charliebull

the man was a clueless and pig headed in his last post, water charges and the new building regulations are his legacy, both a complete mess

Timmaay

Charliebull wrote: »

the man was a clueless and pig headed in his last post, water charges and the new building regulations are his legacy, both a complete mess

Probably the two single biggest cockups of the current government! Both had some merit introducing them, but if they tried they couldn't have made more a shambles of both.

Sam Kade

foxy farmer wrote: »

Probably a reward for implementing property tax and water charges here. Give him a chance and he'll be doing the same with agricultural land and bored wells. I guess he won't be running in the next general election. He'd be lynched if he went out canvassing.

We'll worry about that if or when it comes around, meanwhile stop giving them ideas

foxy farmer

Sam Kade wrote: »

We'll worry about that if or when it comes around, meanwhile stop giving them ideas

Sure werent we paying rates on land up until the late 70's. Its been mentioned again lately in the Dail about returning to something similar. Maybe not now as residential property prices are on the rise. Valuations for property tax will surely rise when thell be reviewed in 2016.

Sam Kade

foxy farmer wrote: »

Sure werent we paying rates on land up until the late 70's. Its been mentioned again lately in the Dail about returning to something similar. Maybe not now as residential property prices are on the rise. Valuations for property tax will surely rise when thell be reviewed in 2016.

It's mainly city properties are going up in value property in towns and in the country are at a standstill. So you cannot raise tax on any property that isn't increasing in value. Unless they will take a higher % of the value in tax.

donfers

Timmaay wrote: »

Probably the two single biggest cockups of the current government! Both had some merit introducing them, but if they tried they couldn't have made more a shambles of both.

and he gets rewarded for it...tells you all you need to know about Enda's "loyalty first and competence last" political ethos

skoger

Does mean the collective agreement on commonages will be passed?

blue5000

I hear he got the job. Chinese curse 'May you live in interesting times' is ahead of us now.:o

Connemara Farmer

skoger wrote: »

Does mean the collective agreement on commonages will be passed?

No.

Connemara Farmer

Birdnuts wrote: »

I too find his appointment rather uninspiring to say the least:(

As do I.

Birdnuts

Connemara Farmer wrote: »

As do I.

Sorry I don't know what happened there as I seemed to have deleted that post somehow Anyways I'm not suprised there isn't much enthusiasm for this appointment among farmers in marginal areas given this goverments record on the substantive issues to date. I see Ming had a good cut at him on the radio today:D

Connemara Farmer

Birdnuts wrote: »

Sorry I don't know what happened there as I seemed to have deleted that post somehow Anyways I'm not suprised there isn't much enthusiasm for this appointment among farmers in marginal areas given this goverments record on the substantive issues to date. I see Ming had a good cut at him on the radio today:D

Waiting for that to come up on RTE Radio Player to hear it.

Next election will be interesting, I won't be voting the same way as last time out, certain of that.

Birdnuts

Connemara Farmer wrote: »

Next election will be interesting, I won't be voting the same way as last time out, certain of that.

Your not the only one - I'd be embarressd at this stage to mention who I gave a No2 to last time out:(

Charliebull

Connemara Farmer wrote: »

Waiting for that to come up on RTE Radio Player to hear it.

Next election will be interesting, I won't be voting the same way as last time out, certain of that.

will you not be running

Connemara Farmer

Charliebull wrote: »

will you not be running

You're right there.

Charliebull

Connemara Farmer wrote: »

You're right there.

good man, now dont forget your roots, good republican county and all that

you and ming would make a good tag team

Connemara Farmer

Charliebull wrote: »

good man, now dont forget your roots, good republican county and all that

you and ming would make a good tag team

Reckon you took me up wrong there CB, would have nothing to do with politics, dirty, dirty business.

frazzledhome

Ye should've heard Ming at 1oc. All farmers in the East are ranchers, all have second homes in Eastern Europe. Talk about canvassing while he made some good points about hill farmers this stuff does him no favours. It was actually funny

Connemara Farmer

frazzledhome wrote: »

Ye should've heard Ming at 1oc. All farmers in the East are ranchers, all have second homes in Eastern Europe. Talk about canvassing while he made some good points about hill farmers this stuff does him no favours. It was actually funny

He's just as funny in person, had some great lines in Westport.

Collective agreement is about as sensible as trying to herd butterflies, or something to that effect.

frazzledhome

Connemara Farmer wrote: »

He's just as funny in person, had some great lines in Westport.

Collective agreement is about as sensible as trying to herd butterflies, or something to that effect.

Is he good craic? Strikes me as clever bit intense I'd say?

Connemara Farmer

frazzledhome wrote: »

Is he good craic? Strikes me as clever bit intense I'd say?

Very clever, seemed relaxed to me anyway. Well able to tell it how it is and put his point across.

Greengrass1

Any link to mings speach at 1?

Charliebull

frazzledhome wrote: »

Ye should've heard Ming at 1oc. All farmers in the East are ranchers, all have second homes in Eastern Europe. Talk about canvassing while he made some good points about hill farmers this stuff does him no favours. It was actually funny

did he mention granite worktops at all

Connemara Farmer

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Any link to mings speach at 1?

http://www.rte.ie/radio1/news-at-one//

I can't say I have heard much I disagree with in Mings interview.

Skip to 6.40 into interview, you'll avoid the boring bit that way.

Charliebull

Connemara Farmer wrote: »

Very clever, seemed relaxed to me anyway. Well able to tell it how it is and put his point across.

i actually have come to like the man, he seems very measured and knows his stuff, i would say europe will get some shock

Connemara Farmer

Charliebull wrote: »

i actually have come to like the man, he seems very measured and knows his stuff, i would say europe will get some shock

He's big into fair play for people which is a quality lacking in Ireland.

frazzledhome

Charliebull wrote: »

did he mention granite worktops at all

Leather trousers ha

Charliebull

frazzledhome wrote: »

Leather trousers ha

boat shoes

frazzledhome

Charliebull wrote: »

boat shoes

Lol

rushvalley

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2014/09/10/great-big-bollocks-to-be-named-eu-agriculture-commissioner/

I'll just leave this here.....

secman

Another Irish politician rewarded for ineptitude................ really beggars BELIEF that we did have a competent person to nominate

tanko

The only good thing I can think of saying about him is that surely he can't be as bad as Maire Geoghan Quinn.

J.O. Farmer

donfers wrote: »

and he gets rewarded for it...tells you all you need to know about Enda's "loyalty first and competence last" political ethos

Well if he had the opposite ethos he'd have sent Leo varadker but he'd probably end up screwing every farmer in the country just to get back at Kenny.

grazeaway

tanko wrote: »

The only good thing I can think of saying about him is that surely he can't be as bad as Maire Geoghan Quinn.

Don't be suprised. Uncle phil made dick Roche look good.

Just goes to show that you don't need brains to get on in irish politics just a good thick neck. I wonder how the lads in Europe will take to his tall tales, no doubt he ll continue to make us irish look a joke in the EU.

It's like the saying about who gets the plumb jobs, " it's not what you know but who you know"

grazeaway

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

Well if he had the opposite ethos he'd have sent Leo varadker but he'd probably end up screwing every farmer in the country just to get back at Kenny.

Don't worry young Leo will no doubt have an eye out for a nice number in Europe too once he manages to knife his way past covney to the top table in FG and if that dosent happen he ll have an exit plan to someone like labour or if rumours are to believed the return of the PD's

Connemara Farmer

rushvalley wrote: »

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2014/09/10/great-big-bollocks-to-be-named-eu-agriculture-commissioner/

I'll just leave this here.....

Neck like a........ :pac:

theaceofspies

IFA welcoming the appointment of Hogan really says it all. Requim mass for Irish farming has been announced.

Wooly Admirer

Connemara Farmer wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/radio1/news-at-one//

I can't say I have heard much I disagree with in Mings interview.

Skip to 6.40 into interview, you'll avoid the boring bit that way.

A nice well balanced piece there! Heard him and Eddie Downy on Matt Cooper this evening also, cringed the whole way through, Cooper couldn't get them off quick enough. Ming using language like 'Ranchers' with houses in eastern europe. You'd swear everyone farming east of Shannon are flying around in helicopters like JR. Dallas, pissing down on lads in the West - what a load of rubbish.

I'd like to see the breakdown of the data he's using on the millions that will be moving from West to East.

Connemara Farmer

Wooly Admirer wrote: »

A nice well balanced piece there! Heard him and Eddie Downy on Matt Cooper this evening also, cringed the whole way through, Cooper couldn't get them off quick enough. Ming using language like 'Ranchers' with houses in eastern europe. You'd swear everyone farming east of Shannon are flying around in helicopters like JR. Dallas, pissing down on lads in the West - what a load of rubbish.

I'd like to see the breakdown of the data he's using on the millions that will be moving from West to East.

Farming Independent did a piece, backed up by research, on the SFP early in the CAP negotiations some time. Quite a chunk of it was being used for investment including property outside of Ireland.

Ming is talking in terms of the Ciolos flat rate proposals. In that respect he's correct.

Haven't heard the Matt Cooper piece yet.

Bodacious

theaceofspies wrote: »

IFA welcoming the appointment of Hogan really says it all. Requim mass for Irish farming has been announced.

ye can quit yer moaning now.. Big Phil is in with his big sneary head on him.. he the type of man that gives you a stonker of a bill and takes pleasure in delivering it!

freedominacup

frazzledhome wrote: »

Is he good craic? Strikes me as clever bit intense I'd say?

I just can't get past his first incarnation on don't feed the gondolas back in the nineties.

Connemara Farmer

Matt Cooper interview we're interested in is in part two:

http://www.todayfm.com/player/shows/The_Last_Word_with_Matt_Cooper/7/14428/10th_September_2014_-_The_Last_Word_with_Matt_Cooper_Part_2