Can you shoot from a moving boat(Rowing)

garv123

deerhunter1 wrote: »

No It states Mechanically propelled

(b) any protected wild bird by means of such a vehicle,vessel or aircraft while it is being so propelled.


Where?? The OP is talking about birds not animals.

juice1304

(a) any protected wild animal by means of a mechanically-propelled vehicle, vessel or aircraft, whether it is being so propelled or is stationary,

garv123

juice1304 wrote: »

(a) any protected wild animal by means of a mechanically-propelled vehicle, vessel or aircraft, whether it is being so propelled or is stationary,

The op is talking about birds though, not animals.

2 separate parts for both.

Bogwoppit

garv123 wrote: »

The op is talking about birds though, not animals.

2 separate parts for both.

If birds aren't animals then what are they?
Trees?

Eddie B

Bogwoppit wrote: »

If birds aren't animals then what are they?
Trees?

Em, if I asked you to name an animal, would you say Duck?

I think the lad has a point!

Eddie B

garv123 wrote: »

The op is talking about birds though, not animals.

2 separate parts for both.

My reading of it is that, you can shoot birds from a mechanically propelled vehicle, once its stationary, but you can't shoot animals whether vehicle is stationary, or moving!

Bogwoppit

Eddie B wrote: »

Em, if I asked you to name an animal, would you say Duck?

I think the lad has a point!

I might!

I don't think he has a point, a bird is an animal therefore the law applies. You can't get around it by arguing that a duck isn't an animal.

Bogwoppit

Eddie B wrote: »

My reading of it is that, you can shoot birds from a mechanically propelled vehicle, once its stationary, but you can't shoot animals whether vehicle is stationary, or moving!

As before, a duck is an animal.

Eddie B

Bogwoppit wrote: »

I might!

I don't think he has a point, a bird is an animal therefore the law applies. You can't get around it by arguing that a duck isn't an animal.

Just read the section 36 which is on the 1st page of this thread! Might change your mind on your argument! There is an A and B, referring to Animals, and Birds!

Bogwoppit

Maybe one section is referring to birds and the other is referring to animals, i.e. all animals not just birds. When it says animals I don't think it excludes birds.
I'm fairly sure a judge would consider a duck as an animal whether you think so or not.

Duck = Bird

Bird = Animal

Animal = Large group of species including birds.

OED definition of an animal;

noun
1A living organism which feeds on organic matter, typically having specialized sense organs and nervous system and able to respond rapidly to stimuli


I think ducks fit in that category.

As has been said before, that is what the law states, like it or not.

Whether you'd get prosecuted for it or not is another story and I don't know the answer to that.

warehouse1

Bogwoppit wrote: »

Maybe one section is referring to birds and the other is referring to animals, i.e. all animals not just birds. When it says animals I don't think it excludes birds.
I'm fairly sure a judge would consider a duck as an animal whether you think so or not.

Duck = Bird

Bird = Animal

Animal = Large group of species including birds.

OED definition of an animal;

noun
1A living organism which feeds on organic matter, typically having specialized sense organs and nervous system and able to respond rapidly to stimuli


I think ducks fit in that category.

As has been said before, that is what the law states, like it or not.

Whether you'd get prosecuted for it or not is another story and I don't know the answer to that.

The law has two rules one for birds and one for animals. If they meant birds when they were talking about animals why didnt they just make one rule.
(a) any wild animal by means of a mechanically-propelled vehicle, vessel or aircraft, whether it is being so propelled or is stationary,

(b) any wild bird by means of such a vehicle, vessel or aircraft, while it is being so propelled.

Vegeta

A duck is not considered a "wild animal" in the Act.

“‘wild animal’ includes an individual of a population which primarily lives independent of human husbandry but does not include—

(a) wild birds, or

Bogwoppit

Vegeta wrote: »

A duck is not considered a "wild animal" in the Act.

Fair enough, I hadn't seen that section, where is it from?

I still think the rest of it is pretty vague and open to interpretation, a ranger could argue in court that oars are a mechanism and therefore rowing is mechanical propulsion, unlikely but possible under the wording.

Bw

Vegeta

Bogwoppit wrote: »

Fair enough, I hadn't seen that section, where is it from?

It's in the definitions section of the 2000 ammendments.

I still think the rest of it is pretty vague and open to interpretation, a ranger could argue in court that oars are a mechanism and therefore rowing is mechanical propulsion, unlikely but possible under the wording.

Bw

I've said similar in the past. I wouldn't take the risk personally.