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Gambling Culture is Killing Ireland

  • 09-09-2014 3:59pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭


    Just had an interesting read on Irish Indo re Gambling awareness in Ireland

    From my own experience, I know that this country will lose the run of the themselves with Gambling if not addressed properly especially by the youth of today.

    We are going to be in for a serious shock to the system of compulsive gambling and it will get worse and worse and number of sucides will increase as a result.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Bet you're wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Tenner says this'l be shut down. l


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭DulchieLaois


    Ah jaysus lads, your cracking me up !!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Birneybau wrote: »
    Bet you're wrong.

    double or quits?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭EunanMac


    20 euro on it making three pages or more


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    I do love an auld Bet I Do

    21/25



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Jawgap wrote: »
    double or quits?

    All in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    Better altogether to just spend more quality time down the pub.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    Are you here to sell raffle tickets???








    I'll take 1,000!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭DulchieLaois


    Never want to be again in my life, so i am out


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    I'd rather gamble the money than buy the indo!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    They had a guy on newstalk this morning talking about his gambling problems; and when I switched over to radio 1 they were on about goddamned prostate cancer. Are they trying to drive us all to drink or what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    Just had an interesting read on Irish Indo re Gambling awareness in Ireland

    From my own experience, I know that this country will lose the run of the themselves with Gambling if not addressed properly especially by the youth of today.

    We are going to be in for a serious shock to the system of compulsive gambling and it will get worse and worse and number of sucides will increase as a result.

    Gambling has always been a problem in this country.

    I remember walking past betting shops 20 years ago and they would be packed to the roof. Our house hosted hundreds of card games back in the day and these were not friendly games either, i've seen cars and plots of land being gambled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Never want to be again in my life, so i am out

    All bets are off.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13 Tombs


    We are going to be in for a serious shock to the system of compulsive gambling and it will get worse and worse and number of sucides will increase as a result.

    Yeah, losing at Russian roulette is suicide.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭The Strawman Argument


    Ach, I'm not a gambler at all at all, but I can see the appeal of throwing some of your income at a few football matches each weekend or whatever; gives you something to care about for a bit, fills up the deep emotional void you're feeling a bit, just a bit of fun, like.

    Isn't that where most the increase in gambling has came from since online gambling took off, small but consistent bets on football matches and the like?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭hfallada


    Gambling culture is killing working class Ireland. You can go through dozens of middle to upper-middle class suburbs in Dublin and not find a single bookies. Where as the working class areas in Dublin are full of them. You also see more working class people playing the lotto, than middle class people.

    But its funny how in Germany, cigarette advertising is everywhere and the warning signs arent obvious. But ads for the Lottery have very clear warning signs, that warn you gambling is addictive, the probability of winning the jackpot and it isnt easy to buy lottery tickets.


    Gambling culture is far more common among older people, who dont see spending €5 a day on scratch cards as an "addiction".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    obese gambling smoking alcoholics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    ...the only card I need, is the Ace of Spades....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    hfallada wrote: »
    Gambling culture is killing working class Ireland. You can go through dozens of middle to upper-middle class suburbs in Dublin and not find a single bookies. Where as the working class areas in Dublin are full of them. You also see more working class people playing the lotto, than middle class people.
    .

    Its the only real chance of escape from a lifetime of poverty isnt it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Certainly the property market was a big gamble (see what I did there?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    The lotto is a tax on stupidity. Given that I won €700,000 on it a few years back I am living proof.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    hfallada wrote: »
    Gambling culture is killing working class Ireland. You can go through dozens of middle to upper-middle class suburbs in Dublin and not find a single bookies. Where as the working class areas in Dublin are full of them. You also see more working class people playing the lotto, than middle class people.
    The lack of betting shops in middle to upper-middle class areas has nothing do do with working classes gambling more.

    The middle classes tend to do their betting online whereas working classes are less likely to use credit cards and do their betting over the counter.

    Gambling, be it through enjoyment or addiction isn't a class based activity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Bettor Together


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    hfallada wrote: »
    Gambling culture is killing working class Ireland. You can go through dozens of middle to upper-middle class suburbs in Dublin and not find a single bookies. Where as the working class areas in Dublin are full of them. You also see more working class people playing the lotto, than middle class people.
    True, but isn't investing very similar to gambling? Couldnt you also look at the amount of middle and upper class people who lost money gambling on property markets and the damage that did to the country?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    hfallada wrote: »
    Gambling culture is killing working class Ireland. You can go through dozens of middle to upper-middle class suburbs in Dublin and not find a single bookies. Where as the working class areas in Dublin are full of them. You also see more working class people playing the lotto, than middle class people.

    But its funny how in Germany, cigarette advertising is everywhere and the warning signs arent obvious. But ads for the Lottery have very clear warning signs, that warn you gambling is addictive, the probability of winning the jackpot and it isnt easy to buy lottery tickets.


    Gambling culture is far more common among older people, who dont see spending €5 a day on scratch cards as an "addiction".

    Did the Sean Quinns and seanie Fitzpatrick's not lose a massive gamble?

    Are they not supposed upper class?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,211 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Gambling has always being a problem. My grandmother told me about loads of people who gambled there houses and lost them from the late 1890/1900. It seement like it happened a lot more than it does now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭gugleguy


    OP have you set up your helpline? 1850

    €1.50 a minute number.

    All information given out to be regarded in legal sense as entertainment only.
    Small print: You’re a muppett to use this service and deserved to be milked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Iranoutofideas


    Forget gambling OP, what you need is to invest your money. I know some great apartments in Bulgaria if you're interested.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Lapin wrote: »
    The lack of betting shops in middle to upper-middle class areas has nothing do do with working classes gambling more.

    The middle classes tend to do their betting online whereas working classes are less likely to use credit cards and do their betting over the counter.

    Gambling, be it through enjoyment or addiction isn't a class based activity.

    Your 100% right and the number of women who gamble is well under estimated, you rarely see them in the bookies, they prefer the internet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    Dont suffer from that particular vice but have rarely seen a bookies more then 50 meters from a pub. Can they take bets from drunk people, seems a bit unfair but I suppose a fool and his money...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    You have to laugh at the idiots that frequent the boo-keys thinking they can get one over on the mathematical geniuses behind the scenes. Spending half their wages per week then occasionally getting "a winner"...then the drinks are on them...real high rollers.

    Actually, it's not funny at all. Feel sorry for the families that have put up with the old man blowing money like that.

    For people who speak about "odds" a lot, it amazes me that they don't realise the odds are always stacked against them, and their net result will almost certainly be in the negative in the long run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    Gambling is far from being the biggest problem in Ireland atm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    Ruu wrote: »
    Are you here to sell raffle tickets???







    I'll take 1,000!

    And the winner is number eleven.
    ELEVEN!
    ELEVEN!!!

    Sorry Ted I was holding it upside down


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    OP, I'm gonna bet you're wrong. It's the drink.


    I always up for a bet when I'm a bit drunk.


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  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gambling has always being a problem. My grandmother told me about loads of people who gambled there houses and lost them from the late 1890/1900. It seement like it happened a lot more than it does now.

    Gambling your house now could mean twenty years of repayments for something you don't have.. Doubt there were thirty year mortgages over a hundred years ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Losing is the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I have a system!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭Overflow


    Its the only real chance of escape from a lifetime of poverty isnt it

    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,974 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Just had an interesting read on Irish Indo re Gambling awareness in Ireland

    From my own experience, I know that this country will lose the run of the themselves with Gambling if not addressed properly especially by the youth of today.

    We are going to be in for a serious shock to the system of compulsive gambling and it will get worse and worse and number of sucides will increase as a result.

    I know younger lads and it's just a phase, they generally grown out of gambling or get bored of it.
    diomed wrote: »
    Losing is the problem.

    Losing is far from the problem, discipline is. As an avid gambler and member of a couple of "betting groups" it's all down to discipline. Several people I bet with rely solely on gambling as an income and to support their family, they do it pretty well but the key is to know when to call it a day and rethink. These people have no issues supporting their families, buying houses, buying cars, going on holidays, etc... and are pretty well off. One lad won around £7k one day last week, the next day didn't start too well so he packed it in for the day after being down a couple of quid.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Remember when everyone was playing poker a few years back? Couldn't go into a pub without a tournament on. That was weird.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    There is no doubt that gambling is becoming more and more prominent. I used to work in a pub and lads used to be up and down like yoyos to the bookies betting on every race. How they had the money god only knows. Both vices are destroying so many lives here in Ireland and the people here always come out with the “well I can have a drink without getting drunk, why should it be regulated tougher?”

    My mother often rightly said you can drink till you fall over but if a gambling addition takes hold you’ll spend every penny you have. Very dangerous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭eamonnq


    I used to enjoy betting on horses, great entertainment and a bit of fun to be had out of it. Have an online account now and have not put any money into it in a long time (have never taken any out either !!). It goes up, it comes down, it goes back up it goes back down. If I manage to get it up over a couple of hundred euro I might try and take some out (for the novelty of it!!).

    Best thing about online is that you can do very small bets that I would not be not be bothered going to the bookies to do. 2 euro on a 6/4 shot etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    ShagNastii wrote: »
    There is no doubt that gambling is becoming more and more prominent. I used to work in a pub and lads used to be up and down like yoyos to the bookies betting on every race.

    Nothing new there tbh.


    I just hope they enforce age limits nowadays. I remember heading into the bookies as a kid with my cousin and him putting down bets on horse races and matches no bother! He works in finance now unsurprisingly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭The Purveyor of Truth


    I've known people with gambling problems and it tends to be the poker machines and slots they get addicted to, not always of course, but in the main that's were I have seen the most heartbreaking forms of it. Know of lads putting a weeks wages into poker machines. In the 90s there was a lot of talk about banning them, but from what I see around Dublin, they're very much still about.

    Double of the week (2/1): Angelic Lord, 2:30 @ Doncaster (10/11) & Gary Busey to win Celebrity Big Brother (8/13).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,357 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    I've made over 10K last year on football, and touching 6K this year so far, come at me :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭eamonnq


    I've made over 10K last year on football, and touching 6K this year so far, come at me :D

    Well done, we will be closing your account shortly!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,357 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    eamonnq wrote: »
    Well done, we will be closing your account shortly!!

    Well past that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭eamonnq



    Double of the week (2/1): Angelic Lord, 2:30 @ Doncaster (10/11) & Gary Busey to win Celebrity Big Brother (8/13).

    Thanks, had a small bet on Angelic Lord !! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Highflyer13


    I've made over 10K last year on football, and touching 6K this year so far, come at me :D

    But how much did you lose?:P


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