Kurdish female fghters sowing terror in the ranks of ISIS

icecold1066

Apparently the ultra-fundamentalist in the ranks of ISIS are terrified of being killed by women in battle because they believe they will not get to Paradise.

As a result the Kurds are sending all female units into the battle against the jihadists and it is working as ISIS are falling back.

"Everywhere they go they kill and do bad things in the name of Islam," said Zekia Karhan, 26, a female guerrilla from Turkey. "They captured a lot of women and they are selling them in Syria for $100. They rape women and behead them in the name of Islam."

Karhan is a member of PKK, the leftist Kurdish group classified as a terrorist organization by Turkey, the U.S. and NATO. She and others ave flocked to the front lines in the all-out effort to retake Iraqi cities and towns from Islamic State.

Another female PKK fighter from Turkey, Felice Budak, 24, told Stars and Stripes she smells fear on the enemy. Islamic State fighters “are very scared of death because they are only here to kill people,” she said. “I don't mind doing it over and over again. I've already fought in Turkey, Iran and Syria.”

The extremists are terrified of being killed by the opposite sex, Karhan said. In northern Iraq, it is said that the Islamic State fighters believe that they won’t be admitted to heaven if they are killed by a woman.

"Nobody knows if there is heaven or hell," Karhan said. "How can they know they will get 27 virgins? To me Kurdistan is heaven and Kurdish women are angels. Heaven is no place for terrorists."

Lyaiera

Do you have a link to the article? On the surface these women seem amazing. Good on them.

Amirani

Mod

This isn't a news dump icecold1066, it's much more conducive to discussion and debate if you add some sort of opinion or thoughts on a thread you open. A source for your quotes would be useful too.

Furthermore, I don't really see how this topic is relevant to The Ladies Lounge, or what sort of discussion you're looking for. As a result, I'm going to close this unless you can follow up on what you've posted.

icecold1066

These women have more courage than the feminists in the West who are running scared from Islamists and their brutal treatment of women. I wanted to highlight how women with courage can still change the world.

icecold1066

Lyaiera wrote: »

Do you have a link to the article? On the surface these women seem amazing. Good on them.

If don't have enough posts yet to be allowed to post the link.

I think it is wonderful how karma is literally a bitch for these headhacking savages! LOL

Lyaiera

I think the idea of female revolutionary soldiers is really important. Ireland has a history of important female revolutionaries and I think it should be celebrated along with women fighting against a threat to their and other's safety. I think it should be applauded just as much as women going to pro-choice rallies, gay people going to equal marriage parades, and people writing stark opinions like the man who rightly classified the sharing of the JLaw pics as a sex crime.

Women fighting for their and other's rights is a thing to be applauded.

Now I don't know much about these Kurdish fighters, I'd love to know more, but on the surface they seem to be fighting the good fight.

Edit: Ice Cold, you can link without the www. part and it might be ok.

Standman

Watched an interesting enough Vice documentary on female Kurdish fighters a while ago. Worth checking out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_0kg8VlxkE

Victor

icecold1066 wrote: »

Kurdish female fghters sowing terror in the ranks of ISIS

It is quite possible that this claim is over-stated. See Myth #6 here: http://www.vox.com/cards/isis-myths-iraq/crazy-irrational

Lyaiera wrote: »

I think the idea of female revolutionary soldiers is really important. Ireland has a history of important female revolutionaries and I think it should be celebrated along with women fighting against a threat to their and other's safety. I think it should be applauded just as much as women going to pro-choice rallies, gay people going to equal marriage parades, and people writing stark opinions like the man who rightly classified the sharing of the JLaw pics as a sex crime.

Women fighting for their and other's rights is a thing to be applauded.

Now I don't know much about these Kurdish fighters, I'd love to know more, but on the surface they seem to be fighting the good fight.

Edit: Ice Cold, you can link without the www. part and it might be ok.

While sometimes violence is a regrettable necessity, I'm not sure if anyone should be celebrated simply for fighting / being violent. While Hollywood has long a long tradition of celebrating violence and war, primarily with male leads, it needs to be realised that this tradition was cemented in the propaganda of WWII and the Cold War. Surely non-violent heroes (male and female) should be celebrated more?

Should the women fighting with ISIS be celebrated?

paddy1990

LOL

Women doing exactly what men do but getting huge amounts of praise for it

Lyaiera

Victor wrote: »

While sometimes violence is a regrettable necessity, I'm not sure if anyone should be celebrated simply for fighting / being violent. While Hollywood has long a long tradition of celebrating violence and war, primarily with male leads, it needs to be realised that this tradition was cemented in the propaganda of WWII and the Cold War. Surely non-violent heroes (male and female) should be celebrated more?

Should the women fighting with ISIS be celebrated?

I'm not celebrating fighting. I'm celebrating women making a stand for their freedom. From what I've read ISIS seem to be wholly reprehensible. I am pleased that women taken the opportunity to fight for theirs and others freedom. As I said though I don't know the history of this Kurdish group, but apparently they have been listed as a terrorist organisation by a number of groups so I'm not making a judgement on their causes, just what I can see mentioned casually in a few places.

Victor

paddy1990 wrote: »

LOL

Women doing exactly what men do but getting huge amounts of praise for it

I think you are missing the point. People breaking out of (negative) stereotypes is to be commended. People engaging in violence should (normally) be condemned
.

diveout

Lyaiera wrote: »

I'm not celebrating fighting. I'm celebrating women making a stand for their freedom. From what I've read ISIS seem to be wholly reprehensible. I am pleased that women taken the opportunity to fight for theirs and others freedom. As I said though I don't know the history of this Kurdish group, but apparently they have been listed as a terrorist organisation by a number of groups so I'm not making a judgement on their causes, just what I can see mentioned casually in a few places.

Why? So we have as many female fools as we do male fools? It's bad enough the men are expendable.

It validates the heroic model that has so many young men destroying their lives to that the war mongers can get rich.

Don't agree with you.