Prepay Power

JR1210

Anyone know the cheapest option for prepay power?
I just bought a house with Prepaypower, rang Electric Ireland and they seem a good bit cheaper, anyone any info on it?

MouseTail

JR1210 wrote: »

Anyone know the cheapest option for prepay power?
I just bought a house with Prepaypower, rang Electric Ireland and they seem a good bit cheaper, anyone any info on it?

I think cheap prepay power is an oxymoron. Try bonkers.ie

punisher5112

Cheapest would be get rid.

foggy_lad

JR1210 wrote: »

Anyone know the cheapest option for prepay power?
I just bought a house with Prepaypower, rang Electric Ireland and they seem a good bit cheaper, anyone any info on it?

You pay the highest unit rate for electricity used because you don't get any discounts that providers usually offer for paying by direct debit etc PLUS they charge an extra €13+ per month on top of the normal standing charges!

They are "convenient" for some people but are possibly the most expensive option!

salamanca22

You can get a meter with electric ireland that will stay at the same rate as paying in arrears.

I was on to them recently about it and they promised me that the price would emulate that of a bill if I were paying in arrears. It makes sense because they will be paid in advance instead of running the risk of people going heavily into arrears with them.

There is also no extra standing charge and is not limited to those already in arrears anymore. Anyone can get it so long as the building can support it.

JR1210

I would avoid them at all costs as they are expensive, but the house will be rented out so probably the best option
Looks like Electric Ireland is the cheapest option

wampyrus77

Prepaypower is more expensive then ESB bill

the world wonders

JR1210 wrote: »

I would avoid them at all costs as they are expensive, but the house will be rented out so probably the best option

Only a certain kind of tenant will prefer prepaid electricity. Do you really want to attract tenants who don't know how to manage their money?

mistress_gi

Airtricity worked out a lot cheaper for us!

boardsuser1

I was with pre pay power, my advice avoid avoid avoid, went to electric Ireland and am definitely getting more bang for my buck

wampyrus77

is Pinergy.ie cheaper then esb and i live in flat

foggy_lad

wampyrus77 wrote: »

is Pinergy.ie cheaper then esb and i live in flat

NO, they are the same type of set-up as prepay-power. They re-sell the electricity to you and add on a charge for their equipment and administration which can be as little as €126 a year.

ukoda

mistress_gi wrote: »

Airtricity worked out a lot cheaper for us!

prepay? thats impossible as their rates are higher than other suppliers and they charge a surcharge for the meter.

mistress_gi

ukoda wrote: »

prepay? thats impossible as their rates are higher than other suppliers and they charge a surcharge for the meter.

no, sorry It is regular bill.

wampyrus77

what the point join prepaypower.ie when they lie to you, they promise to give me free €20 credit and i never got it, plus they charge €3 per phone call

The_Conductor

ukoda wrote: »

prepay? thats impossible as their rates are higher than other suppliers and they charge a surcharge for the meter.

You're 100% correct there. Its the standard rate + pre-pay charge.
If the poster went even with a regular account- it would be over 190 a year less (for an identical number of units- with the same company).

The_Conductor

mistress_gi wrote: »

no, sorry It is regular bill.

The OP is specifically talking about Pre-pay and seeking the cheapest pre-pay option.

wampyrus77

The_Conductor wrote: »

You're 100% correct there. Its the standard rate + pre-pay charge.
If the poster went even with a regular account- it would be over 190 a year less (for an identical number of units- with the same company).

but you are a pension its worse one you get no discounts with pre-pay power, but you discount with only with esb and how can you trust a company that lies to you pre-pay power is lying company

The_Conductor

wampyrus77 wrote: »

but you are a pension its worse one you get no discounts with pre-pay power, but you discount with only with esb and how can you trust a company that lies to you pre-pay power is lying company

They don't lie.
They are 100% honest on their website.
If people choose to only focus on certain aspects of the scheme and don't bother to look up all the details- well, caveat emptor........

Peter File

These prepay electricity are only for people who are incapable of managing their finances and there is no point slagging them off here. They are always going to be more expensive than bill pay

johndaman66

Ive recently become a property owner for the first time and trying to decide which provider to go with. I will be a pretty low user of electricity (cant say in advance what my typical usage will be but it will be relatively small). Which provider would be my best choice? Also does electric Ireland offer discount for paying by direct debit as opossed to at the post office etc? thanks in advance

foggy_lad

johndaman66 wrote: »

Ive recently become a property owner for the first time and trying to decide which provider to go with. I will be a pretty low user of electricity (cant say in advance what my typical usage will be but it will be relatively small). Which provider would be my best choice? Also does electric Ireland offer discount for paying by direct debit as opossed to at the post office etc? thanks in advance

Most offer substantial discounts for paying by direct debit and also some plans will have a low usage surcharge which may take some of the discount offered. Best might be a dual fuel account for gas and electricity or just going with a standard account with one of the larger suppliers and taking advantage of the direct debit offers available, being a low user your savings will be minimal anyway.


The prepay options will add at least €126 a year onto the standard rates(inclusive of standing charges)

wampyrus77

The_Conductor wrote: »

They don't lie.
They are 100% honest on their website.
If people choose to only focus on certain aspects of the scheme and don't bother to look up all the details- well, caveat emptor........

they promise me €20 credit i never got it, they broke a promise does sound like lie

The_Conductor

wampyrus77 wrote: »

they promise me €20 credit i never got it, they broke a promise does sound like lie

Did you follow the qualifying criteria to the letter of the law?
Most of these payments are automated credits to accounts- automatically applied at database level- when set criteria are met. Normally there isn't even any human intervention involved- its a batch job that gets kicked off once a month- and you meet the criteria, or you don't. Were there terms and conditions- and did you you meet them?

If you feel you did meet them- ring them- and get an explanation. Either they or you are in the wrong. They're not going to try and do you out of your 20 quid- you're worth a hell of a lot more than that to them.......

starlit

I'd recommend Airtricity or ESB. Pre-pay power is ok if renting or its an apartment with a house is best to go with the likes of Airtricity or ESB. Board gais be another option. Only certain things are worth paying for by pre-credit rather than paying a bill. I would think pre-pay power work out more expensive. Draw up a budget and compare the pros and cons of pre-pay power or bill pay. The best value for your money is the best way forward.

The_Conductor

To be brutally honest- even if Airtricity were half the price of ESB, I couldn't in all conscience recommend anyone deal with them. Their customer service staff are a complete and utter nightmare- and even if your tenant is no longer resident in the property- will not want anything to do with you the owner- despite the fact that you may not have even agreed to have them install a pre-pay meter.

They may be cheaper- indeed, they may- but if you have to deal with them with anything other than routine queries, God have mercy on your soul.

wampyrus77

The_Conductor wrote: »

Did you follow the qualifying criteria to the letter of the law?
Most of these payments are automated credits to accounts- automatically applied at database level- when set criteria are met. Normally there isn't even any human intervention involved- its a batch job that gets kicked off once a month- and you meet the criteria, or you don't. Were there terms and conditions- and did you you meet them?

If you feel you did meet them- ring them- and get an explanation. Either they or you are in the wrong. They're not going to try and do you out of your 20 quid- you're worth a hell of a lot more than that to them.......

promise is a promise and pre pay broke the promise

The_Conductor

wampyrus77 wrote: »

promise is a promise and pre pay broke the promise

Conditions are conditions- and unless you meet them to the letter- prepay didn't break any promise. I don't know whether you followed the letter of the law precisely or not- and I advised you to contact Prepay if you are convinced you did- instead you're back here whinging about a promise being a promise. Be proactive. Ring them. At very least- you'll get an explanation as to why you didn't qualify- and if a mistake was made- you can give them an opportunity to rectify it. Moaning here- is not going to achieve anything whatsoever.

wampyrus77

The_Conductor wrote: »

Conditions are conditions- and unless you meet them to the letter- prepay didn't break any promise. I don't know whether you followed the letter of the law precisely or not- and I advised you to contact Prepay if you are convinced you did- instead you're back here whinging about a promise being a promise. Be proactive. Ring them. At very least- you'll get an explanation as to why you didn't qualify- and if a mistake was made- you can give them an opportunity to rectify it. Moaning here- is not going to achieve anything whatsoever.

promise is honour bround you cant break it

hfallada

The_Conductor wrote: »

To be brutally honest- even if Airtricity were half the price of ESB, I couldn't in all conscience recommend anyone deal with them. Their customer service staff are a complete and utter nightmare- and even if your tenant is no longer resident in the property- will not want anything to do with you the owner- despite the fact that you may not have even agreed to have them install a pre-pay meter.

They may be cheaper- indeed, they may- but if you have to deal with them with anything other than routine queries, God have mercy on your soul.

Second that! To call them you have to listen to 2 mins of how amazing they are before you get to the menu opinions. Then you discover you can only pay online or in a post office. They dont have a telephone automated payment service.They are ridiculously bad at estimating bills. They also didnt send out a bill to a rent house my parents had for 4 months. It was €2.5k and expected it to be paid within a normal bill payment time.

Energia are pretty good and good value

wampyrus77

hfallada wrote: »

Second that! To call them you have to listen to 2 mins of how amazing they are before you get to the menu opinions. Then you discover you can only pay online or in a post office. They dont have a telephone automated payment service.They are ridiculously bad at estimating bills. They also didnt send out a bill to a rent house my parents had for 4 months. It was €2.5k and expected it to be paid within a normal bill payment time.

Energia are pretty good and good value

It's €3 a min it's cost to listen to that to a €6 before they start talking

ukoda

wampyrus77 wrote: »

It's €3 a min it's cost to listen to that to a €6 before they start talking

Are you implying that's the cost of the phone call? Becsuse they have an 1850 number which are capped at about 30c max from a mobile and I think something like 6c from a landline.

I think you are mistaken or else you're not calling the correct number

http://www.moneyguideireland.com/cost-of-calling-1850-numbers.html

katief101

Prepaypower.ie are a dreadful company and I would avoid them at all costs. I have spent the last few days calling them trying to get a deactivation code for a box in a new house we just bought and they have done nothing but mess me around. I am heavily pregnant and moving into a house with no electricity. I have explained all this but they couldn't care less. I have an account setup with a new supplier, supplied them with proof of ownership etc. but still no reply from them. They even told us we could top up the card in the house to use in the meantime during the 7 day switchover period and when we did it ate up all our money as the previous owner has arrears of over 100 euro on the machine. None of this was explained to us of course and we can't get a refund. They don't answer email and just keep promising to call back but to no avail. Am at my wits end with this company.

ukoda

katief101 wrote: »

Prepaypower.ie are a dreadful company and I would avoid them at all costs. I have spent the last few days calling them trying to get a deactivation code for a box in a new house we just bought and they have done nothing but mess me around. I am heavily pregnant and moving into a house with no electricity. I have explained all this but they couldn't care less. I have an account setup with a new supplier, supplied them with proof of ownership etc. but still no reply from them. They even told us we could top up the card in the house to use in the meantime during the 7 day switchover period and when we did it ate up all our money as the previous owner has arrears of over 100 euro on the machine. None of this was explained to us of course and we can't get a refund. They don't answer email and just keep promising to call back but to no avail. Am at my wits end with this company.

Lodge a complaint to the CER, tell them you are doing it and ask them if they have followed all their complaint handing procedures. You have to go through their process before the CER will get involved, but it might shake them up knowing there actions will have to be documented and produced to the CER upon their request. Send them an email and CC the CER email address for complaints, you'll find it on their website

katief101

Thanks, I will certainly try that. Have spend hours on the phone to them over past few days and it's gone beyond reasonable now at this stage. Such an unprofessional company. Have enough things to get organized as it is without this unnecessary stress!

wampyrus77

ukoda wrote: »

Are you implying that's the cost of the phone call? Becsuse they have an 1850 number which are capped at about 30c max from a mobile and I think something like 6c from a landline.

I think you are mistaken or else you're not calling the correct number

http://www.moneyguideireland.com/cost-of-calling-1850-numbers.html

€3 a call with UPC and now esb donates money to charities , prepower don't donate money to charity

ted1

wampyrus77 wrote: »

€3 a call with UPC and now esb donates money to charities , prepower don't donate money to charity

Just call upc for free on 1908. Any good company will have CSR policy donations are part of that. ESB are cheaper than prepay I'm failing to see your point

ukoda

wampyrus77 wrote: »

€3 a call with UPC and now esb donates money to charities , prepower don't donate money to charity

As i said you're calling the wrong number so, they actually have a freephone number: 1800 98 91 03, which costs you exactly 0 euro from a UPC landline.


I can't comment on who donates to what charities as i don't know.

guiresy77

Just simply do not join..terrible customer service.. they even have charges if you leave after your contract year.. horrible company

guiresy77

Just simply do not join..terrible customer service.. they even have charges if you leave after your contract year.. horrible company

wmpdd3

Charge to remove the meter?

mistress_gi

they can't charge you if you are a new customer. So I would sign OH/flatmate/mother/father/dog or cat to another supplier and then demand they remove it for free!
They are terrible to deal with, actually before removal you can get a deactivation code from them over the phone. I had to threaten them with the energy regulator before they gave in.

ruben37

JR1210 wrote: »

Anyone know the cheapest option for prepay power?
I just bought a house with Prepaypower, rang Electric Ireland and they seem a good bit cheaper, anyone any info on it?

Hi Jr to answer your question I would suggest either Electric Ireland prepay or Bord Gas prepay, neither have the 126 euros plus such as prepay power or pin energy. As for such comments as prepay users not being able to manage money, such a silly/stupid suggestion. I am a prepay customer of Electric Ireland with 196.50 credit on my meter, own my own home with no arrears on a 25 year mortgage with 3 years left. I also own and run a small but successful company for over 22 years no issues here with managing money.

wampyrus77

Pinergy aren't irish when they have company in Belfast

boardsuser1

For anyone considering these companies,i was with PPP for 3 yearsand got ripped off!moved to EI last year and I can definitely feel the difference in my wallet,a positive difference!

Smertrius

Prepaypower are more expensive then esb , there no free credit with them, they only give fiver when the installed it and they promise give me my €25 and i never got it, i was paying on my esb €30 every 2 months but Prepaypower i was €50 every 2 months cheaper nope

foggy_lad

Smertrius wrote: »

Prepaypower are more expensive then esb , there no free credit with them, they only give fiver when the installed it and they promise give me my €25 and i never got it, i was paying on my esb €30 every 2 months but Prepaypower i was €50 every 2 months cheaper nope

Basically they are giving the highest Standard Electric Ireland rate PLUS €13.60 per month for their fees and meter rental etc.

TheDoc

Moved into a new rented house two weeks ago and it has prepaid electricity.

Must get in touch with the landlord (who we know) and see what type of contracts etc. he is tied up into. The house was his mothers who it was handy for, but its utterly pointless for me and obviously just a nuisance in terms of cost.

CruelCoin

JR1210 wrote: »

Anyone know the cheapest option for prepay power?
I just bought a house with Prepaypower, rang Electric Ireland and they seem a good bit cheaper, anyone any info on it?

Prepay power is per kw the most expensive power available....


http://www.bonkers.ie/compare-gas-electricity-prices/your-results/