Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

Agent Coulson

SlickRic wrote: »

Sakho gone for 3 weeks.

relying on Skrtel, then Toure gives me the heebies.

also, no Sturridge again.

This could be the beginning of Gerrard dropping back into a CB role.

5live

Charlie19 wrote: »

If someone is going to mock a keepers positioning, they should use a better example than Evertons equalizer as that was unstoppable.

The lad will never hit a better strike, It wasn't directly in the top corner but had enough movement to fool any keeper.

Jag has scored quite a few similar and one or two better. Check out youtube if you get a chance.

viper006

garra wrote: »

Yeah but Borini's strike rate is poor whereas we know Balo can actually finish. Borini's ability compared to Balo's is evident. I take your point about "bags of craic", we need that in place of Suarez.

The stats certainly say otherwise. In the last 20 pl games he had 63 shots and 1 goal. That's one of worst records going . Personally I'm worried by him but he is getting stuck in and you have to feel the goals will come if he keeps making chances.

Borini and Lambert are actually worse and not an any level good enough to play for club but thank God we have sturridge .

~Rebel~

Just a final wee point on the crouching Mignolet thing - for me the issue isn't that he doesn't save it, it's how little of the goal he managed to cover in that instance.

Great strike, always going away from him etc, but I think you still want your keeper to at least be able to reach a reasonable quantity of his goal. This isn't one where his hand got there just after the ball - he was never close, and it wasn't near the corner.

Look at this screen cap (sorry for the quality) and you can pretty much ignore the ball. He's at full stretch here - look at the amount of the goal he was incapable of reaching. I think a far less powerful shot would still have beaten him here. Not really ideal...

rob316

Mignolet is been criticised because he as shown to be a poor keeper when it comes to the basics. If it was Neur or Courtois in goal and they got nothing on it everyone would be saying how great of a strike it was and the keeper didn't have a prayer.

I don't rate Mignolet but its incredibly harsh to hammer him over that goal.

googled eyes

So Sakho has a strain---ed relationship with the manager.

I'd say Sakho will do well to get back into the Liverpool team for a good while barring an injury to Lovern and Skrtel

mosstin

rarnes1 wrote: »

I'd say Sakho will do well to get back into the Liverpool team for a good while barring an injury to Lovern and Skrtel

Which is bad news for us no matter what way you look at it.

mosstin

Just watching City vs Roma - Hart's just made a similar blunder to Mig vs Ludogorets. I'm assuming he'll receive similar criticism from the media.

kevohmsford

mosstin wrote: »

Just watching City vs Roma - Hart's just made a similar blunder to Mig vs Ludogorets. I'm assuming he'll receive similar criticism from the media.

Thought Hart was on the bench for this game.

Oh he is playing. Sorry.

gafferino

Gerrard only 34..... Totti is 38. Gerrard is actually in his prime.

Utopia Parkway

rarnes1 wrote: »

I'd say Sakho will do well to get back into the Liverpool team for a good while barring an injury to Lovern and Skrtel

OwaynOTT

gafferino wrote: »

Gerrard only 34..... Totti is 38. Gerrard is actually in his prime.

As Rodgers would say, 'young Gerrard'.

brevity

Hodgson names his England squad for October’s double-header against San Marino and Estonia on Thursday and, with Rodgers admitting Sturridge could face West Bromwich Albion at Anfield on Saturday, may be tempted to include the striker despite his lack of match fitness.

But the Liverpool manager said: “Daniel won’t be fit. Whether he is available for the weekend or not, he won’t be fit. We are hoping he can develop over the next 24 hours and train with the team on Thursday and be available for some involvement and be in the squad on Saturday. But if you are talking about players’ availability [for England], then they need to be fit to play and Daniel will not be fit to play.”

Rodgers has not spoken to the England manager since Sturridge’s injury, suggesting a possible deterioration in their relationship, but added: “We have good dialogue and he knows he can call and speak about any of the players. Hopefully he will have found anything I have ever said about the England players working with Liverpool to be helpful.”

Asked if he expected England to overlook an unfit Sturridge for the fixtures on 9 and 12 October, the Liverpool manager said: “It’s something we have already stressed. We will see. My focus is on protecting the Liverpool players and at this moment in time my focus is on getting him fit for Liverpool.”

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/sep/30/brendan-rodgers-daniel-sturridge-liverpool-england?CMP=twt_gu

Utopia Parkway

brevity wrote: »

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/sep/30/brendan-rodgers-daniel-sturridge-liverpool-england?CMP=twt_gu

Proper order really. It would be crazy for Sturridge to get injured on England duty, miss all the Liverpool games since and then be straight back into the England squad the minute he's back fit. He needs to sit the next internationals out.

garra

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Proper order really. It would be crazy for Sturridge to get injured on England duty, miss all the Liverpool games since and then be straight back into the England squad the minute he's back fit. He needs to sit the next internationals out.

Yep thats a clear 2 finger salute to Hodgson. In one respect you would have sympathy for Intl managers as they only have short spells of time in which to work with players from disparate teams on tactics / team set-up. On the other hand its Woy bloody Hodgson and you want to poke him in the eye and slap him round the chops for a bit.

gafferino

"It doesn't leave us short, we're working with what we've got. We always felt after this next international break we should have everyone back and the group will be up to full strength again"

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/171638-br-s-update-on-sakho-sturridge-injuries

gafferino

A win tomorrow would be huge. Would almost ensure our progression to the next round IMO.

Vicxas

gafferino wrote: »

A win tomorrow would be huge. Would almost ensure our progression to the next round IMO.

Calls for a massive team effort.

5live

garra wrote: »

Yep thats a clear 2 finger salute to Hodgson. In one respect you would have sympathy for Intl managers as they only have short spells of time in which to work with players from disparate teams on tactics / team set-up. On the other hand its Woy bloody Hodgson and you want to poke him in the eye and slap him round the chops for a bit.

Dammit, i snorted tea up my nose at that:D

MR NINE

I presume people realise hodgson is gonna call him up. This the same hodgson who called him up and started him against ireland during pre season to test what he was made of when sturridge was recovering from injury. Theres no way hes gonna leave him out for two qualifiers. The only hope from liverpools point of view is to leave him out completely this weekend and convince hodgson hes still injured. If hes involved at all this week then hell be involved for england imo.

martyos121

MR NINE wrote: »

I presume people realise hodgson is gonna call him up. This the same hodgson who called him up and started him against ireland during pre season to test what he was made of when sturridge was recovering from injury. Theres no way hes gonna leave him out for two qualifiers. The only hope from liverpools point of view is to leave him out completely this weekend and convince hodgson hes still injured. If hes involved at all this week then hell be involved for england imo.

Let me show you that bit in bold from Woy's view:
"Oh look, Stuwwidge didn't play this week. Bwendan wested him so he could play both games for England. How considewate."
Bad idea.

dogbert27

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/nov/17/englandfootballteam-john-terry

It happened in 2008 with Gerrard being called up to be assessed by the English FA medical team after Liverpool ruled him out of action for 10 days.

I can see Hodgson calling him up.

skydish79

mosstin wrote: »

Which is bad news for us no matter what way you look at it.

When Rodgers falls out with a player it only ends one way, agger, reina

Soft Falling Rain

TBH this is the kind of thing that only Sturridge can have the final decision on. The club can't force him to stay at home, so it's up to Sturridge to decide if he's willing to live with the inevitable bs that will come with him turning down an international call up.

It's Sturridge's call at the end of the day, so regardless of how little time I have for Hodgson you can't really blame him if Sturridge accepts the call up.

Grayditch

"Sturridge will miss Liverpool’s Champions League tie against Baselon Wednesday with the thigh injury" - The Guardian.

Baselon Wednesday. That's my next Fantasy Football team name sorted.

BenEadir

dogbert27 wrote: »

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/nov/17/englandfootballteam-john-terry

It happened in 2008 with Gerrard being called up to be assessed by the English FA medical team after Liverpool ruled him out of action for 10 days.

I can see Hodgson calling him up.

If Sturridge plays for us this weekend he's fit and if he's fit he's going to be called up. International managers have an obligation to put their best available players on the pitch. Clubs don't give a toss about the international scene and vice versa. International managers have to fight their corner and use the rules to ensure they get the strongest squad possible together, their job depends on it. If I was an international manager and Sturridge played at the weekend I'd definitely call him up and even if he doesn't play at the weekend but it's possible he'd be fit in time for the first qualifier I'd still call him up. Why wouldn't I?

Harry Palmr

I know West Brom have hit a bit of form but I'd like to think Liverpool without Studge can still win.

noodler

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I know West Brom have hit a bit of form but I'd like to think Liverpool without Studge can still win.

I hoped for this against Villa, West Ham and Everton in fairness.

gafferino

skydish79 wrote: »

When Rodgers falls out with a player it only ends one way, agger, reina

In fairness you have no idea who he has fallen out with. Over the course of a season there would lots of arguments, fallouts etc. Its normal to an extent....these guys are professional footballers, they want to play. He had Suarez playing with the youth team last year.....then what happened? Agger and Reina just happened to fall into the public realm a bit so we hear of it but to say it only ends one way is wrong.