An attack on the UK is "highly likely"

WILL NEVER LOG OFF

Is anyone not expecting this?

it may not be imminent, but surely only a matter of time before IS bring their crazy to the uk.

recently flightpaths over the vatican were tightened as IS made direct threats against it.

are people right to be concerned? surely an attack is inevitable? or is it just UK Government scaremongering for political gain?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-28986271

The UK's terror threat level is being raised from "substantial" to "severe" in response to conflicts in Iraq and Syria, Home Secretary Theresa May says.

The new alert level means an attack on the UK is "highly likely", although Mrs May said there was no intelligence to suggest an attack was "imminent".

It is the second highest of five possible UK threat levels.

In a statement Mrs May said: "The increase in the threat level is related to developments in Syria and Iraq where terrorist groups are planning attacks against the West.

"Some of those plots are likely to involve foreign fighters who have travelled there from the UK and Europe to take part in those conflicts.

Celly Smunt

Threat level midnight.

EuskalHerria

I'd raise the threat level just before intervening against IS. That's what I would do....

henryporter

Either way I wish the likes of IS would just piss off and keep their stupid dumb pathetic opinions to themselves

geret

is it duck, tuck and roll or iodine tablets or drive west??

what's the strategy for this one?

Nomis21

They increase the threat level so that if there is any terrorist action they can say "I told you so"

I have never heard any announcement ever to say that the threat has been downgraded.

Amirani

If the Islamic State want to establish a caliphate in the Middle East, then they should definitely go and attack some powerful military nations in the West. That's a great idea.

I'm sure we all remember the significant anti-Iraq war protests, but can many remember significant anti-Taliban/Al Qaeda war protests? If IS commits terrorist attacks on the UK, they're going to get destroyed.

Madam

They won't try anything this side of the country after the last time 'terrorists' tried their stuff in Glasgow - wee Glasgow men are way tougher than any of them;)

donegal__road

Enoch Powell anticipated this back in 1968, but became an outcast for declaring it.

Nodin

donegal__road wrote: »

Enoch Powell anticipated this back in 1968, but became an outcast for declaring it.

He predicted IS? Jaysus, wasn't he the smart fecker.

gandalf

/me gets popcorn and waits for the Tinfoil hat brigade to join the thread...

Madam

Oh for Gawds sake Enoch Powel was a bigoted oul racist and perhaps xenophobic to boot!!!

WILL NEVER LOG OFF

gandalf wrote: »

/me gets popcorn and waits for the Tinfoil hat brigade to join the thread...

who

are you saying that expecting an IS attack is a conspiracy theory?

i'm sorry if this thread is a magnet for racists and bigots, hopefully not.

but IS are nutjobs and their intentions seem somewhat real.

Nodin

gandalf wrote: »

/me gets popcorn and waits for the Tinfoil hat brigade to join the thread...

They're too busy saying that the Urkrainians Yuri and Ivan built those T-72's in their garage in a village near the border and them and their 1,000 identically aged and outfitted comrades are in no way Russian.

bear1

I'm just waiting for the US and other nations to suddenly start flattening them from above.
Backward pricks.

donegal__road

although I am by no means a fan of Powell or what he stood for... he predicted racial and religious tensions on British soil, when Britain opened its borders to Afro Caribbean and Muslim races.

I dont think he would have been able to foresee the rise of Islamic State though..?

catallus

WILL NEVER LOG OFF wrote: »

who

Indeed.

This is less about IS and more about radicalised English citizens.

Nodin

donegal__road wrote: »

although I am by no means a fan of Powell or what he stood for... he predicted racial and religious tensions on British soil, when Britain opened its borders to Afro Caribbean and Muslim races...?

There are no "muslim races". It's a religion. He went on about race, I don't recall religion being mentioned.

donegal__road wrote: »

I dont think he would have been able to foresee the rise of Islamic State though..?

He was a unionist. They aren't known for being forward thinkers.

ScumLord

donegal__road wrote: »

although I am by no means a fan of Powell or what he stood for... he predicted racial and religious tensions on British soil, when Britain opened its borders to Afro Caribbean and Muslim races.

Afro Caribbeans wouldn't exist without the British empire. They didn't so much open the door for them but made them make the door and stand beside it opening it for their oppressors.

gandalf

WILL NEVER LOG OFF wrote: »

who

are you saying that expecting an IS attack is a conspiracy theory?

i'm sorry if this thread is a magnet for racists and bigots, hopefully not.

but IS are nutjobs and their intentions seem somewhat real.

No but I suspect some of the "usual suspects" will say the UK government are stoking up the fear factor because of some fantasy conspiracy theory bull****!

WILL NEVER LOG OFF

catallus wrote: »

Indeed.

This is less about IS and more about radicalised English citizens.

yeah...i'm pretty sure it's about IS. the nationality of some absolute sociopaths isn't the immediate issue.

it would be nice to have a discussion about IS without pre-emptively shifting the blame from IS's maniac ideology

JONJO THE MISER

And we will have the same thing in Ireland, these people should not be left into the country, we have areas at the moment where it is all muslims, they do not want to fit into Irish society and our values.

Nodin

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

And we will have the same thing in Ireland, these people should not be left into the country, we have areas at the moment where it is all muslims, they do not want to fit into Irish society and our values.

We do? Name three.


Are all muslims supporters of IS?

comongethappy

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

we have areas at the moment where it is all muslims,

And the CSO can back this up where?

Unless by "areas" you mean the couple of square metres in the doorway of a mosque.

Duggy747

I remember when "radical" meant something else

JONJO THE MISER

Nodin wrote: »

We do? Name three.


Are all muslims supporters of IS?

I can name more than three, these are small areas.
Lots of small laneways and small streets in Dublin and Cork and other small towns.

Madam

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

And we will have the same thing in Ireland, these people should not be left into the country, we have areas at the moment where it is all muslims, they do not want to fit into Irish society and our values.

I have a few muslim friends(whose families originally came from Afghanistan, India and Pakistan) they attend nearly all social occasions in the neighbourhood - of course there are some who stick together but here in Scotland that could be said of the Irish here at one time:( You just can't tar every muslim with the one brush!!!

comongethappy

Duggy747 wrote: »

I remember when "radical" meant something else

If he could that kid would kill you & everyone you care about!

comongethappy

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

I can name more than three, these are small areas.
Lots of small laneways and small streets in Dublin and Cork and other small towns.

Go for it!

Remember.... 100% Islamic.... Verifiable.

Nodin

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

I can name more than three, these are small areas.
Lots of small laneways and small streets in Dublin and Cork and other small towns.

"small laneways". What's next, a three bed house "full of muslims"?


What are the names of these places/areas?

The Diabolical Monocle

Another jihadi attack in the UK really wouldnt surprise me very much at all.

Middle east is so entirely fvcked its unreal. And any nation connected with it is getting infected.

Partly because of America and Russia playing strategic games with the territory in the first place. Also with the whole Israel thing.

Throw in radical Islam and oil - perfect storm. It would be hard to plan out how to fvck up a region to this level of precision.

Nodin

Duggy747 wrote: »

I remember when "radical" meant something else

Ahh yes, Poochie. We'll never see him again.

gandalf

FFS do not tar all muslims with these fanatics. Any one religion does not have a monopoly on having extremists, this goes for causes as well. Just look at the republicans and loyalists. They carried out unjustified murders in the name of their causes as well. Sure if people travel with the purpose of fighting in these conflicts they should be monitored quite closely when they get back but please don't go down the route of tarring everyone else with the same brush just because they happen to be the same religion.

Madam

I wonder if we had a body count between 'atrocities' committed by Christians and Muslims in the last hundred years or so - who would come out top?

comongethappy

Madam wrote: »

I wonder if we had a body count between 'atrocities' committed by Christians and Muslims in the last hundred years or so - who would come out top?

Christians..... By a long way.

(Though religion was not a motivation for most so its kinsa irrelevant).

gandalf

Madam wrote: »

I wonder if we had a body count between 'atrocities' committed by Christians and Muslims in the last hundred years or so - who would come out top?

Didn't realise we were having a competition :rolleyes:

catallus

comongethappy wrote: »

Christians..... By a long way.

Would that be because they love god more than muslims?:D

fedor.2.

Madam wrote: »

I wonder if we had a body count between 'atrocities' committed by Christians and Muslims in the last hundred years or so - who would come out top?

Anybody who takes innocent life is neither Christian or Muslim

gandalf

catallus wrote: »

Would that be because they love god more than muslims?:D

Hmm Russia under Stalin was atheist officially and they killed millions, is it only the religious that can join this "illustrious" club ??

Amirani

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

And we will have the same thing in Ireland, these people should not be left into the country, we have areas at the moment where it is all muslims, they do not want to fit into Irish society and our values.

There does exist plenty of Irish Muslims.

Who gives you personally the right to decide what "our" values are? My values are very different to yours, yet we're both Irish. Please remind me what defines "Irish society and values"? Plenty of Irish people I know value tolerency and ethnic and cultural diversity very highly.

GHOST MGG

History repeating itself,i reckon we are heading for a modern day crusade,
Its looking like the caliphate is gonna stretch from syria into iraq and libya is on the cards next.
Dont think the west will let that happen / let it live long.

gandalf

Diego Simeone wrote: »

There does exist plenty of Irish Muslims.

Who gives you personally the right to decide what "our" values are? My values are very different to yours, yet we're both Irish. Please remind me what defines "Irish society and values"?

Yep I'm interested in what these Irish society and values rules are as well

donegal__road

donegal__road wrote: »

Enoch Powell anticipated this back in 1968, but became an outcast for declaring it.

He got elected in South Down as an MP afterwards. Maybe bear in mind the kind of you're agreeing with.

GHOST MGG

GHOST MGG wrote: »

History repeating itself,i reckon we are heading for a modern day crusade,
Its looking like the caliphate is gonna stretch from syria into iraq and libya is on the cards next.
Dont think the west will let that happen / let it live long.

So is it on the cards or not?

ScumLord

Madam wrote: »

I wonder if we had a body count between 'atrocities' committed by Christians and Muslims in the last hundred years or so - who would come out top?

That cut off point isn't fair on christians, sure they've been the worst in the recent centuries but the Muslims started it when they invaded Spain.

who the fug

Given it is about ten years since my last Stout and Curry binge and the 3D hangover from hell memory is receding

I think a chemical attack on London is likely

Fratton Fred

ScumLord wrote: »

Afro Caribbeans wouldn't exist without the British empire. They didn't so much open the door for them but made them make the door and stand beside it opening it for their oppressors.

I'm pretty sure the French, Dutch, Portuguese and Spanish may have had a hand in it a as well.

Philo Beddoe

fedor.2. wrote: »

Anybody who takes innocent life is neither Christian or Muslim

Why is that?

Fratton Fred

ScumLord wrote: »

That cut off point isn't fair on christians, sure they've been the worst in the recent centuries but the Muslims started it when they invaded Spain.

I'd have said Christian crusades didn't help matters.

Philo Beddoe

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I'm pretty sure the French, Dutch, Portuguese and Spanish may have had a hand in it a as well.

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I'm surprised it took them this long to upgrade the threat level considering all the talk over the last number of months about young radicalised men heading over to fight for IS.

At the end of the day London is a prime target (as financial capital of the world) for any sort of terrorist plot, be it Jihadists or any other group of nutters.