Why aren't Motorcycles banned?

Cyber Ghost

They're absolute deathtraps, and unlike cars,lorries etc they've no use for the economy.

And don't start on the "freedom" thing, there's a million and one other lethal activities that are banned.

super_furry

Because Jesus loves them more than he loves people. Mad for the Harleys so he is.

leeroybrown

So how is a car used to carry someone to and from their home to their workplace more economically viable than the equivalent motorcycle. The motorcycle has less negative environmental and economic impacts too.

Frosty McSnowballs

Name a million other things that are banned so.

My name is URL

UFC is dangerous too but looking at your post history I'm sure you wouldn't call for it to be banned

Cyber Ghost

leeroybrown wrote: »

So how is a car used to carry someone to and from their home to their workplace more economically viable than the equivalent motorcycle. The motorcycle has less negative environmental and economic impacts too.

That car is protected by hard steel, seatbelts, airbags, etc.

What does a motorbike offer? A helmet? and that's not even part of the bike.

BigCon

Most stupid thread ever.

job seeker

super_furry wrote: »

Because Jesus loves them more than he loves people. Mad for the Harleys so he is.

http://www.altweeklies.com/imager/born-again-to-be-wild-burning-rubber-with-bikers-for-jesus/b/main/148333/8e87/jesus_biker_coverA.jpg

somuj

Why isn't walking banned? The amount of people that fall over and kill themselves every year. Legs go all out and ban standing up.

Cyber Ghost

My name is URL wrote: »

UFC is dangerous too but looking at your post history I'm sure you wouldn't call for it to be banned

There's never been a fatality or a serious accident in the UFC.

Motorbikes, on the other hand.....

Hotfail.com

Cyber Ghost wrote: »

And don't start on the "freedom" thing, there's a million and one other lethal activities that are banned.

A lot of the other "million and one" activities shouldn't be banned. We're already banning enough stupid shíte, leave the motorcyclists be.

Paco Rodriguez

I hope you never need blood and have to wait for a car stuck in traffic with some.

My name is URL

Cyber Ghost wrote: »

There's never been a fatality or a serious accident in the UFC.

Motorbikes, on the other hand.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatalities_in_mixed_martial_arts_contests

dmc17

Cyber Ghost wrote: »

They're absolute deathtraps, and unlike cars,lorries etc they've no use for the economy.

And don't start on the "freedom" thing, there's a million and one other lethal activities that are banned.

What about bike rallies? Motorcycle shops? Parts? Gear? Mechanics?

leeroybrown

super_furry wrote: »

Because Jesus loves them more than he loves people. Mad for the Harleys so he is.

I reckon Jesus would ride a Ducati - idealistic but with an uncomfortable position, divisive opinions and a tenancy to get you in trouble.

Cyber Ghost

My name is URL wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatalities_in_mixed_martial_arts_contests

I/You said UFC which has proper safety protocols in place, not MMA in general.

diomed

Ban cars. The kill car drivers, pedestrians, cyclists, motorcyclists.

Kamik

They are mentioned in the Bible too!
Moses rose in Triumph

PizzamanIRL

Because they're not.

septictank

Cyber Ghost wrote: »

They're absolute deathtraps, and unlike cars,lorries etc they've no use for the economy.

And don't start on the "freedom" thing, there's a million and one other lethal activities that are banned.

Give your missus a break and throw your leg over a bike for a change and you won't have to ask stupid questions.

meathstevie

Cyber Ghost wrote: »

They're absolute deathtraps, and unlike cars,lorries etc they've no use for the economy.

And don't start on the "freedom" thing, there's a million and one other lethal activities that are banned.

Let's see; a motorbike can bring a paramedic or a Garda through a traffic jam quicker than a Bugati Veyron. Motorbikes take up less road space than single occupancy cars. Historically motorbikes became affordable a lot quicker than cars as a means of motorised transport; who doesn't remember the Honda fifty for example. Motorbikes had off road capabilities long before cars with off road capabilities were developed. The list goes on....

Mr McBoatface

They aren't death traps......they are safe as long as other road users aren't pulling out in front of them.

kneemos

somuj wrote: »

Why isn't walking banned? The amount of people that fall over and kill themselves every year. Legs go all out and ban standing up.

People fall out of bed at an alarming rate as well,so that'll have to go.

Menas

Motorbikes are the best thing....nothing beats a road trip on a motorbike. You would need to be a right fckin Ninny to want to ban them.
Sure you may as well ban stairs for all the sense that makes.

deco nate

Please tell me this is a joke thread!

My name is URL

Cyber Ghost wrote: »

I/You said UFC which has proper safety protocols in place, not MMA in general.

I meant MMA contests in general, but anyway, banning motorbikes is a silly idea.

You say they're of no use to the economy but they are. Couriers and delivery services use them.. and I'm sure manufacturers and dealerships see some value in them too!

Kamik

I have a 1962 BSA Bantam and a tankful lasts me 4 months, what car can do anything near that?

leeroybrown

Cyber Ghost wrote: »

That car is protected by hard steel, seatbelts, airbags, etc.

What does a motorbike offer? A helmet? and that's not even part of the bike.

So you've dropped your economic argument then.

Motorcycles are are indeed inherently offer far less protection to their riders than cars. Most regular riders wear protective equipment: a helmet (legal requirement), leathers with joint and back protection, special boots and gloves.

Conversely, cars, lorries, etc are far more hazardous to other road users. Motorcycles tend not to cause harm to third parties and only minor damage to other vehicles. Cars, lorries, etc are a large percentage of the reason why motorcycling is dangerous.

I've ridden motorcycles in countries where they're the primary form of transport and despite what non-riders would view as chaos it's actually a pretty safe environment where everyone rides responsibly and looks out for one other. Best of all it's much easier to get around.

Fr_Dougal

Cyber Ghost wrote: »

They're absolute deathtraps, and unlike cars,lorries etc they've no use for the economy.

And don't start on the "freedom" thing, there's a million and one other lethal activities that are banned.

I take it you've never been on a bike. :rolleyes:

whats newxt

I don't see the problem if someone wants to get on a bike and kill themselves then so what enough of the nanny state.

leeroybrown

Kamik wrote: »

I have a 1962 BSA Bantam and a tankful lasts me 4 months, what car can do anything near that?

Great bike!

UCDVet

Freedom

Chucken

Kamik wrote: »

I have a 1962 BSA Bantam and a tankful lasts me 4 months, what car can do anything near that?

Original green?

K.Flyer

Road Safety Association figures show that of all the deaths on Irish roads (year end 2013) 95 Car Occupant deaths compared to 15 Bikers.

Super-Rush

TheZohan wrote: »

I take it you've never been on a bike. :rolleyes:

I'd say he has and fell off.

Adamantium

Cyber Ghost wrote: »

And don't start on the "freedom" thing

You see that's just the thing.

Why not? Is it it inconvenient that the pesky facts always end up ruining your proposed reality.

leeroybrown

deco nate wrote: »

Please tell me this is a joke thread!

There's been a worrying trend on After Hours recently to discuss things seriously. Not a good development.

Kamik

Chucken wrote: »

Original green?

No, mine is the Blue model

Cienciano

Cyber Ghost wrote: »

I/You said UFC which has proper safety protocols in place, not MMA in general.

Why isn't MMA banned?

OldMrBrennan83

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daRobot

Cyber Ghost wrote: »

they've no use for the economy.

That's embarrassingly innacurate.

How do reckon most factory workers in Asia get to work?

Kamik

leeroybrown wrote: »

There's been a worrying trend on After Hours recently to discuss things seriously. Not a good development.

Even the National Association of Smirth are concerned:)

Tin Foil Hat

I wouldn't ban them, but a limit on the level of noise that comes from some of them wouldn't go astray.

bnt

If laws were made to protect the incompetent minority at the expense of a sensible majority, all sorts of things would be banned. Alcohol, quad bikes, deep frying ... Boards. :cool:

UCDVet

There were 31,115 deaths in Ireland in the year 2,000, of which 12,660 were due to diseases of the circulatory system. Most of these cardiovascular deaths were due to ischaemic heart disease, which we colloquially refer to as heart attack. Strokes were also a major killer in that year accounting for 2,747 or approximately 20% of cardiovascular deaths. There were 7,563 deaths from malignant disease and 1,532 of these were due to carcinoma of the trachea, bronchus and lung. The majority of those deaths would have been attributable to cigarette smoking. Carcinoma of the breast accounted for 647 deaths. This death toll was significantly exceeded by carcinoma of the colon and other digestive organs with a final tally of 1,969 deaths. Pneumonia was listed as the cause of death in 2,523 cases but this would have been the final event in a chronic illness and not due to an acute event in an otherwise healthy person. Pneumonia has often been referred to as the old man’s friend because it often occurs in old age and is often the final event in a litany of illness. Cardiovascular deaths and deaths from malignant disease accounted for 20,223 of all deaths, which is approximately 65% of all deaths.

If you want to start banning things for the 'greater good' it should be unhealthy food/sedentary lifestyles THEN cigarettes.

Motorcycles and MMA (and things like Sky Diving/Rock climbing/etc...) are so insignificant as to be a blip on the radar and are certainly be less harmful to society than alcohol.

deco nate

leeroybrown wrote: »

There's been a worrying trend on After Hours recently to discuss things seriously. Not a good development.

Why would banning motorbikes help? Motorbikes
Have less impact on the environment than cars, the problems that come with that is muppets in cars that don't know the rules of the road that cause most of the accidents.
So Yea let's just ban all cars...
See what I'm getting at?

Peregrine

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

I wouldn't ban them, but a limit on the level of noise that comes from some of them wouldn't go astray.

You should try my friend's Royal Enfield Bullet :pac:

Rubberchikken

Why should sonething that seems fun to ride, had got to be economical to drive, insure and tax and i presume it's better for the environment than many cars.

Chucken

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

I wouldn't ban them, but a limit on the level of noise that comes from some of them wouldn't go astray.

Nothing sexier than the roar of a bike....well maybe a few other things but it's right up there in the sexy stakes.

wendell borton

leeroybrown wrote: »

I reckon Jesus would ride a Ducati - idealistic but with an uncomfortable position, divisive opinions and a tenancy to get you in trouble.

It would have to be something British, a ducati would be too flashy.

hedzball

More people die off horses every year than motorbikes in Ireland..

The only thing we need to ban are the ignorant ***** who don't respect bikers for road users..

And you.








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