Foreign international arrested in Dublin

errlloyd

Well information on the ground is thin. But Rte are reporting a southern hemisphere international over 30 has been arrested in relation to an assault in Dublin a number of years ago.

I presume mods would prefer we didn't speculate.

awec

Correct. Nay speculation.

former legend

http://m.rte.ie/news/touch/2014/0826/639502-rugby-arrest/

Presumably once he appears in court his name will be out there anyway. A European arrest warrant was out for him so presume he's playing in the NH.

errlloyd

Due in 5 minutes. He arrived on appointment, so he must have come up here to appear in court.

Iang87

supposedly in court at half 4 so it appears it was planned that he come

Indo have said it's from an incident three years ago in a nightclub, over for a game playing for an English side.

P_1

Yeah looks like the name will be out there very sharpish once the proceedings are done so best not speculate till it's revealed in the press.

Zzippy

It's awec.

ucd.1985

Zzippy wrote: »

It's awec.

Who?

bilston

Zzippy wrote: »

It's awec.

Nah it has to be Swiwi!

Neil3030

Can I post what Paul Colgan (RTE News) just tweeted?

errlloyd

It is Alesana Tuilagi. He presented himself for questioning. Apparently there is CCTV evidence of him involved. Did Leicster play in Dublin that year?

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0826/639502-rugby-arrest/

errlloyd

errlloyd wrote: »

It is Alesana Tuilagi. He presented himself for questioning. Apparently there is CCTV evidence of him involved. Did Leicster play in Dublin that year?

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0826/639502-rugby-arrest/

If it's 2011 then yeah, HEC quarter.

I thought it was going to be Ian Evans for stamping on someone's head while they were on the ground.

Larbre34

I wonder did they put all the Tuilagis in the identity parade!

Diabhal Beag

Deep down I knew it wouldn't be Tana Umaga

P_1

I presume that too much speculation of this outside what's covered in the press would run afoul of Sub Judice?

vienne86

So here is the Indo's take on it:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/international-rugby-star-charged-in-connection-with-dublin-nightclub-assault-30538557.html

awec

Zzippy wrote: »

It's awec.

I have no comment to make on the matter at this time.

Zzippy

P_1 wrote: »

I presume that too much speculation of this outside what's covered in the press would run afoul of Sub Judice?

Correct. Absolutely no speculation about the facts of the case except what has been reported in the media. ANY posting about the facts of the case should include a link to back up what has been posted.

Swiwi.

Zzippy wrote: »

Correct. Absolutely no speculation about the facts of the case except what has been reported in the media. ANY posting about the facts of the case should include a link to back up what has been posted.

But aren't we, the common people, the twitterazzi, the facebookians, the bloggers, aren't we the media these days?

Yeah_Right

I love that he showed up to court in a hoodie, shorts and flip flops.

nc6000

Yeah_Right wrote: »

I love that he showed up to court in a hoodie, shorts and flip flops.

How classy of him.

thebaz

Yeah_Right wrote: »

I love that he showed up to court in a hoodie, shorts and flip flops.

I'm all for looking cool - not sure though a court is the right place , especially when you are up on serious assault charges , he may regret this lack of respect

thomond2006

thebaz wrote: »

I'm all for looking cool - not sure though a court is the right place , especially when you are up on serious assault charges , he may regret this lack of respect

Doesn't exactly show much respect to the courts does it?

thebaz

thomond2006 wrote: »

Doesn't exactly show much respect to the courts does it?

put it this way , if I was up for assault charges in the UK, Oz or the U.S. I wouldn't wear flip flops & shorts to court

weary1

thebaz wrote: »

put it this way , if I was up for assault charges in the UK, Oz or the U.S. I wouldn't wear flip flops & shorts to court

But this is Ireland and he is from UK, Oz or U.S.

Neil3030

Well the fact that they let him leave the country after charging him probably means his attire didn't dirty his bib too much. Plus you'd imagine he could afford a standard of legal advice that may extend to appropriate attire for hearings.

John_Rambo

thomond2006 wrote: »

Doesn't exactly show much respect to the courts does it?

I have an Islander friend and he considers runners overdressed. I'm all for cultural understanding, but his council should have (and might have) told him to wear something more appropriate.

errlloyd

He was arrested off the plane, it's entirely possible he intended to get changed before presenting himself at the police station. Because of the nature of those preliminary hearings (the accused often being brought against their will) the judge will be more than used to dealing with people in all sorts of attire.

To any of ye who have been unlucky enough to have to sit through a day in the district courts (I've sat through a few) I'd say most of the people presenting are in casual attire. For minor offences like traffic crimes it's not unusual to see a motorcyclist wearing all his gear bar helmet go up.

Molester Stallone II

It's the judges call, if he found his dress unacceptable he could have asked him to change, obviously he didn't & it won't harm his defence

molloyjh

I'd be more concerned that he wore flip flops here after the weather we've been having.

That s*** be crazy!

thebaz

molloyjh wrote: »

I'd be more concerned that he wore flip flops here after the weather we've been having.

That s*** be crazy!

Mmm I was wearing flip flops for most of today

Morf

molloyjh wrote: »

I'd be more concerned that he wore flip flops here after the weather we've been having.

That s*** be crazy!

Jandles are year round attire for some Kiwis/islanders here.

Swiwi.

Morf wrote: »

Jandles are year round attire for some Kiwis/islanders here.

Like a jandle in the wind.

It's jandals Morf!

philthrill69

bilston wrote: »

Nah it has to be Swiwi!

Who?

philthrill69

Nice to see this post turned into fashion police.

Swiwi.

philthrill69 wrote: »

Nice to see this post turned into fashion police.

Chillax dude. It's hardly a matter to get into a tizz about.

justsomebloke

philthrill69 wrote: »

Nice to see this post turned into fashion police.

Actually due to the ongoing nature of the case, it's one of the only aspects of the case we can openly discuss without me having to lock the thread.

Other then that, WTF were newcastle thinking of signing someone with an outstanding European arrest warrant?

Yeah_Right

Swiwi. wrote: »

Like a jandle in the wind.

It's jandals Morf!

I hate calling jandals, flip flops but thought I better otherwise our Irish brothers (and sisters) would get confused.

philthrill69

Swiwi. wrote: »

Chillax dude. It's hardly a matter to get into a tizz about.

Well going on your use of the English language I'd guess you're in shorts, a hoodie and flip flops right now.
I wonder if he had fresh dreads put in or did he have the cheek to show up with old frayed ones?!

justsomebloke

philthrill69 wrote: »

Well going on your use of the English language I'd guess you're in shorts, a hoodie and flip flops right now.
I wonder if he had fresh dreads put in or did he have the cheek to show up with old frayed ones?!

less of the smartassery please

Podge_irl

At least jandals is better than thongs...

.ak

justsomebloke wrote: »

Actually due to the ongoing nature of the case, it's one of the only aspects of the case we can openly discuss without me having to lock the thread.

Other then that, WTF were newcastle thinking of signing someone with an outstanding European arrest warrant?

How would they know?

thomond2006

.ak wrote: »

How would they know?

Would it be much to assume that clubs complete background checks before offering a contract?

Swiwi.

Podge_irl wrote: »

At least jandals is better than thongs...

Depends what you mean by thongs...and who's wearing them...

Podge in thongs...hmmm not really.

Diabhal Beag

Thought they'd be called flippos over there and I must say I'm disappointed to learn otherwise.

Yeah_Right

Swiwi. wrote: »

Depends what you mean by thongs...and who's wearing them...

Podge in thongs...hmmm not really.

I had a female Aussie flatmate a few years ago. One day the lads are over to watch a game of rugby. She comes downstairs and says "Have you seen my thongs? I can't remember where I left my thongs!" She was quite puzzled by the stunned silence and the looks of shock that slowly changed to big grins.

former legend

thomond2006 wrote: »

Would it be much to assume that clubs complete background checks before offering a contract?

It's hardly public knowledge, is it?

You could ask if he'd have been better off staying in Japan or going back to Samoa but I guess his family are in England.

Teferi

Thud wrote: »

Rugby player on assault charge shocker!!

Look, nobody should be getting in fights anyway but it must be exceptionally hard for lads who play physical sports like rugby, boxing etc. to not get into the odd physical confrontation in a nightclub. Every fella in the place will think they are a hard man when they're full of juice late in the night and the professional sports people have a massive target on their back when it comes to idiots looking for fights.

I'm not excusing what Tuilagi has done and maybe he even started it but just coming from my own experiences of what I've seen a lot of professional sports people have to have the patience of a saint sometimes.

Yeah_Right

Teferi wrote: »

Look, nobody should be getting in fights anyway but it must be exceptionally hard for lads who play physical sports like rugby, boxing etc. to not get into the odd physical confrontation in a nightclub. Every fella in the place will think they are a hard man when they're full of juice late in the night and the professional sports people have a massive target on their back when it comes to idiots looking for fights.

I'm not excusing what Tuilagi has done and maybe he even started it but just coming from my own experiences of what I've seen a lot of professional sports people have to have the patience of a saint sometimes.

This +1.
Years ago after the Sharks had played the Blues at Eden Park, I saw some idiot trying to pick a fight with Mark Andrews and 3 or 4 other Sharks players in a bar. They were the models of restraint. The bouncers threw the guy out and then a bit later when the Sharks were leaving, he tried to have another go. Moron. The bouncers came over and dragged him down a dark alley for a quiet chat.