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Young driver insurance

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    #62
    djimi
    Registered Users Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    quadrifoglio verde wrote: »
    Oh agreed but arbitrarily saying that cars of a certain category should be restricted based on age and not on experience (which Ncb and years a full licence is held do) isn't going to work either.
    There's very few who'd take out a policy in their own name at 17/18 and only use the car once a week for driving lessons.

    Youre probably right. I agree on age; it means nothing really in terms of experience (except that perhaps an older driver has a bit more common sense than a teenager!).


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    #63
    H3llR4iser
    Registered Users Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    djimi wrote: »
    ...but something like that would be a good benchmark; you can only drive up to say group 5 on a learners permit, up to group 10 while on a N plate, and then on an increasing scale based on experience built up (Im only using those groups as an example...

    Let's be brutally honest: the simple fact somebody that has no driving license (the learner's permit is not a driving license, they even changed the name to better drive the point home) can buy a car and get insurance on it is simply insane. Learners should be restricted to practicing on a driving school's car (with dual controls) or on a relative's car, which would also clear the "unaccompanied learner drivers" issue out (no parent/uncle/whatever would let a learner driver out alone in the car they need to go to work in the morning).

    I completely agree with the power/car category limitation; In some EU countries, it has been in place for decades (when I got my license, in 1999, my dad's Alfa was off-limits for three years - young drivers couldn't be in control of anything with more than 50 HP/tonne).


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    #64
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    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    (no parent/uncle/whatever would let a learner driver out alone in the car they need to go to work in the morning).

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    Countless people I know, including myself and other siblings drove parents cars unaccompanied when learning so don't think the above comment would hold in many situations.


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    #65
    oldyouth
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭oldyouth


    Nobody on a learners permit can currently drive unaccompanied. The fact that the law is not enforced, makes it a poor piece of legislation. People need to start being put off the road for offending.

    (blah, blah no public transport, kids to schools, need it for work to pay my mortgage, I'm a brilliant driver, old dears on the road, blah, blah)


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