Wine Prices in Ireland

andersat2

Is it just me, or wine prices went up everywhere by 1-2 eur?

in tescos everything starting now from 8.00 - 8.50 eur (not talking about tesco own wines). Just a month ago it was possible to buy decent wine for 6.50 - 7.00 eur

same in lidl.

Buona Fortuna

Could I suggest

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1353

solomafioso

"I saw a wino eating a grape, I was like 'dude, you have to wait!'" - Mitch Hedberg

fran17

Buona Fortuna wrote: »

Could I suggest

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1353

who asked you fresh fish:p

HurtLocker

Im not sure but the greedy bastards in the Dail added a €1 tax onto wine a year or two ago. All drink is too dear here but the fools in the dail insist it's too cheap.

C.K Dexter Haven

andersat2 wrote: »

Just a month ago it was possible to buy decent wine for 6.50 - 7.00 eur
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You'll never buy "decent wine" in Ireland for 6.50/7.00 euro

ArmaniJeanss

Aldi Bordeaux Superiour at €7.29 and Dunnes Bordeaux Cruse at €6.90 are both decent enough in the price bracket you want.

dxhound2005

They may be decent but at that price level when taxes, transport costs and profits are taken away the wine is only worth something like 20 cents.

ArmaniJeanss

dxhound2005 wrote: »

They may be decent but at that price level when taxes, transport costs and profits are taken away the wine is only worth something like 20 cents.

I estimate it at somewhere around €2.00 for the wine value. Obviously excise duty and VAT are a killer but shipping is negligible enough from France (would be more worried about something from Chile in that price bracket) and the stores are probably positioning it as a small profit item.
Just a suggestion for the OP anyway in that price range, if he splashes out on €12-€15 wine I'd have different thoughts.

Cleite

dxhound2005 wrote: »

They may be decent but at that price level when taxes, transport costs and profits are taken away the wine is only worth something like 20 cents.

I wonder how one would go about setting up a wine club as a business?... My hubby is French and big into organic wine. He's been wondering for a while if it would be a runner - him basically doing runs back and forth to France. I suppose he'd need a license all the same? Any advice anyone? He'd only really be looking to make minimum wage out of it.

dxhound2005

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

I estimate it at somewhere around €2.00 for the wine value. Obviously excise duty and VAT are a killer but shipping is negligible enough from France (would be more worried about something from Chile in that price bracket) and the stores are probably positioning it as a small profit item.
Just a suggestion for the OP anyway in that price range, if he splashes out on €12-€15 wine I'd have different thoughts.

I was going by the BBC for the UK. Could be different here but most people would assume our taxes are higher.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1QGkvB6dBHK5fB37jyKf0f/how-much-is-your-discounted-supermarket-wine-really-worth

The first £2 of a typical £4.99 supermarket wine pays for the excise duty. And if the wine comes from outside the EU then that’s a fee of 11 pence. A 20% VAT also contributes to the price of the wine. This means £2.94 goes on tax – more than half the price of the bottle of wine.

Transport, storage and packaging accounts for another 60 pence and the supermarket takes around 30% – £1.25.

The money left over after is the actual amount that is spent on the wine – 20 pence.

Davarus Walrus

With very few exceptions the majority of wine under €12 on sale in Ireland is nasty swill. Fine if your modus operandi is to get pissed and talk shîte on the Internet; not so good if you want to actually enjoy the taste of decent wine.

Pumpkinseeds

Lidl do some nice wines for under 7 euro a bottle. There's a lot of wine snobbery, you don't have to pay a lot of money to get a tasty bottle of wine. All said and done it comes down to personal preference.

Drag00n79

About 64% of the price of bottle of wine for sale in Ireland is revenue for the govt.

Patrick2010

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

Lidl do some nice wines for under 7 euro a bottle. There's a lot of wine snobbery, you don't have to pay a lot of money to get a tasty bottle of wine. All said and done it comes down to personal preference.

Well said, both Aldi and Lidl do very nice wines for a fiver. I probably have no taste in some peoples view but I find them very drinkable.

robertxxx

OP blame lies with your political leader.

Banjo String

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

With very few exceptions the majority of wine under €12 on sale in Ireland is nasty swill. Fine if your modus operandi is to get pissed and talk shîte on the Internet;

Bingo.

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

not so good if you want to actually enjoy the taste of decent wine.

Goddamit.

Wine snob. :mad:

Molester Stallone II

Plenty of wines for €12 or less that are very drinkable, and there are many wines over €25 that are muck.

Pumpkinseeds

Patrick2010 wrote: »

Well said, both Aldi and Lidl do very nice wines for a fiver. I probably have no taste in some peoples view but I find them very drinkable.

Yeah Lidl had a couple of nice bottles of white that they raised in price from about 5 euro to 6.50, which is a mistake as people can easily pick up a bottle for 7 euro in any supermarket, so why would you bother going out to the way to go to Lidl just for the wine.

My name is URL

I'd sooner spend a fiver on the petrol that would get me to Newry than overspend on some of the piss you get down here.

Banjo String

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

Yeah Lidl had a couple of nice bottles of white that they raised in price from about 5 euro to 6.50, which is a mistake as people can easily pick up a bottle for 7 euro in any supermarket, so why would you bother going out to the way to go to Lidl just for the wine .

Most Lidl, nowadays, are situated more or less in the Tesco car parks

Ok, fair enough enough. In my case (naas) it's an aldi, but pretty sure in edenderry for example, it's Tesco/Lidl in the same plot.




I'm guessing that pisses Tesco off no end. Every Lidl helps though.

Cleite

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

Yeah Lidl had a couple of nice bottles of white that they raised in price from about 5 euro to 6.50, which is a mistake as people can easily pick up a bottle for 7 euro in any supermarket, so why would you bother going out to the way to go to Lidl just for the wine.

To be fair, I would think that it was probably a supplier issue. Lidl are very fair with their prices - I took back a list of some wines in Lidl in Skibbereen and checked them against our local Lidl here in France - definitely no unfair markup and really very little profit on it for them. Nearly all excise and VAT. As for the wine snobs, we got married recently and had mostly French people at the wedding and many of them know a bit about wine. Two of the big hits on the day were a Pouilly Fuissé and a Chateauneuf du Pape - both from Lidl and at knock down prices even for France. So yeah, Lidl is always worth a look for wine.

Ihatecuddles

Baron Saint Jean
€3.99 in Aldi, really nice!

Davarus Walrus

mauzo! wrote: »

Baron Saint Jean
€3.99 in Aldi, really nice!

It can also be used for stripping paint off a boat.

Banjo String

mauzo! wrote: »

Baron Saint Jean
€3.99 in Aldi, really nice!

Red/white?

Buckfast man meself. How does it compare

Ihatecuddles

Banjo String wrote: »

Red/white?

Buckfast man meself. How does it compare

both! and rose

recylingbin

HurtLocker wrote: »

Im not sure but the greedy bastards in the Dail added a €1 tax onto wine a year or two ago. All drink is too dear here but the fools in the dail insist it's too cheap.

Easy decieion for them, they don't have to pay for their drink. We pick up that tab.

Davarus Walrus

recylingbin wrote: »

Easy decieion for them, they don't have to pay for their drink. We pick up that tab.

No we don't. More claptrap.

fussyonion

OP, I noticed the same thing. I used to be able to get wine for €5 in Tesco. It's called "El Chucaro" and the white is really nice; kinda dry.

It's now €6.50 and I've yet to see any wine under €6.50 in Tesco.
I know there's people who'll say "any wine under such-and-such amount is swill", but I just go by what I like.

And I really don't care if 64% of the price of the wine goes to the Government. If it's only costing me €6.50, that's how much it's costing.
I don't get this "the wine is really only €2"...It makes no difference to me when I'm drinking it!

Baron St.John wine is horrible in my opinion.

recylingbin

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

No we don't. More claptrap.

hahahha.
How naive of you.

Banjo String

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

No we don't. More claptrap.

Well I'm pretty sure the bar in the Dail is subsidized.

So partly true.

Davarus Walrus

Banjo String wrote: »

Well I'm pretty sure the bar in the Dail is subsidized.

So partly true.

It's 4.30 for a pint of stout. It's about 50 cents less than some of the boozers in the area. It's not free, and I can't imagine it's subsidised. It may not turn much of a profit, but that's different than this idea that the poor auld hard-pressed people of Ireland are paying for the drink of fat cat politicians.

recylingbin

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

It's 4.30 for a pint of stout. It's about 50 cents less than some of the boozers in the area. It's not free, and I can't imagine it's subsidised. It may not turn much of a profit, but that's different than this idea that the poor auld hard-pressed people of Ireland are paying for the drink of fat cat politicians.

I know several TDs. They always get receipts when buying food or drink.
Maybe they're just very meticulous about their tax returns.

Banjo String

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

It's 4.30 for a pint of stout. It's about 50 cents less than some of the boozers in the area. It's not free, and I can't imagine it's subsidised. It may not turn much of a profit, but that's different than this idea that the poor auld hard-pressed people of Ireland are paying for the drink of fat cat politicians.

I know of a TD, buys a round of drink every now and again in my local (which I always politely decline as I have no common ground with his political party)

If you think about it, whether he claims those rounds back as an expense 8r not, (I'm not suggesting he does) (but he prob does) either way, tax payers fitted his bill (technically)

unkel

Excise duty on wine in Ireland is the highest in the EU. For shame. And to add insult to injury, it increased substantially in the last budget.

It's not the fault of the likes of Tesco or Lidl that a budget, but drinkable wine is now about €7, not about €5 anymore. I bought some decent Wolf Blass merlot in Dunnes a week or two ago "half price" "buy 4 get 25% off", so €6.75 per bottle. That's as good as it gets now really.

A couple of months ago I brewed my first batch of wine from a kit. I had to invest about €50 in equipment and then I made nearly 30 bottles of Australian pinot grigio (white) and paid €36 for the wine kit. So let's say €3 per bottle for this first run (considering my investment) and a bit more than €1 per bottle going forward

Honestly, this wine I brewed was on a par with a budget €6 - €8 bottle of wine bought in a supermarket. Far better than the cheapest €4 - €5 wine available which is typically pretty nasty. Everyone who tasted my wine was of this opinion. I was pleasantly surprised. Will have a brew of Australian blended red ready in a few days. Probably drinkable enough too.

wp_rathead

Schooner ftw!!

suicide_circus

unkel wrote: »

Excise duty on wine in Ireland is the highest in the EU. For shame. And to add insult to injury, it increased substantially in the last budget.

It's not the fault of the likes of Tesco or Lidl that a budget, but drinkable wine is now about €7, not about €5 anymore. I bought some decent Wolf Blass merlot in Dunnes a week or two ago "half price" "buy 4 get 25% off", so €6.75 per bottle. That's as good as it gets now really.

A couple of months ago I brewed my first batch of wine from a kit. I had to invest about €50 in equipment and then I made nearly 30 bottles of Australian pinot grigio (white) and paid €36 for the wine kit. So let's say €3 per bottle for this first run (considering my investment) and a bit more than €1 per bottle going forward

Honestly, this wine I brewed was on a par with a budget €6 - €8 bottle of wine bought in a supermarket. Far better than the cheapest €4 - €5 wine available which is typically pretty nasty. Everyone who tasted my wine was of this opinion. I was pleasantly surprised. Will have a brew of Australian blended red ready in a few days. Probably drinkable enough too.

How the fook does that work? Grape juice left beside the radiator?

unkel

suicide_circus wrote: »

How the fook does that work? Grape juice left beside the radiator?

LOL, no it is far easier and more controlled than that

Have a look at the Home Brewing forum, Buona Fortuna posted a link to it. And / or just go to the company who supplied my kit: homebrewwest

Most of the Home Brewing forum is about beer and cider, I couldn't find useful links about easy wine brewing, so I just went to that website and bought their recommended kit at a very reasonable price and went with the instructions that came with the kit. Can't really go wrong. The kit comes with everything you need. Just follow the simple instructions and a week or so later you have home brewed wine without paying ridiculous excise duty prices for it :cool:

nozzferrahhtoo

andersat2 wrote: »

Is it just me, or wine prices went up everywhere by 1-2 eur?

I can not comment on the increase. But I was sent down to get wine tonight during my visit to Ireland. I am home here for the next couple of weeks.

So naturally I went to look for the wine I enjoy. Which in germany costs me under 10. Most of them.... which I found.... cost over 25.

In the end I settled for two bottles I sometimes drink in Germany. And without giving the exact prices or locations in either country...... I paid over 13 for a bottle of Gratticio Tommasi and a bottle of Armigero Riserva tonight for which I normally pay 5-6 Euro in DE.

Aongus Von Bismarck

The wine people buy in Ireland for under 30 euro and try and claim "it's as good as any wine" are talking absolute rubbish.

The bargain wines you pick up in Lidl or Tesco for under a tenner are, as someone else described "drinkable" . Absolutely fine if you want to get pissed watching the X-Factor. Completely different if you're pairing it with a main for a decent dinner party.

Last Saturday I had some guests around to mine. We shared a fantastic bottle of 2001 Joh. Jos. Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese Lange Goldkapsel. I paired it with the wild venision main and it was simply phenomenal. Of course you're going to have to pay for that. It simply would not have been the same as if I had got a 2012 Cheateau Mass Produced Vinegar.

Aongus Von Bismarck

unkel wrote: »

Just follow the simple instructions and a week or so later you have home brewed wine without paying ridiculous excise duty prices for it :cool:

That's like suggesting people build their own cars. They might succeed, in that they'll have a vehicle with four-wheels and a steering wheel, but its not going to be near the quality of a car built by an expert car manufacturer.

The same way as the fermented wine-juice under your radiator is not going to be anywhere close to the quality of a good vintage from a respected vineyard.

animaal

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

That's like suggesting people build their own cars. They might succeed, in that they'll have a vehicle with four-wheels and a steering wheel, but its not going to be near the quality of a car built by an expert car manufacturer.

The same way as the fermented wine-juice under your radiator is not going to be anywhere close to the quality of a good vintage from a respected vineyard.

I think the point is that the home-made wine was drinkable, and to buy wine of that quality in a shop would cost more.

Most people match their wine to the occasion. I.e. the wine they'd buy for their daughter's wedding would be different to the wine they'd drink while watching Downton Abbey.

Menas

Liking different wines is all down to taste. What tastes great to one person is like dishwater to the next.

But I do love a really 'good' bottle.
Years ago someone gave me some bottles wine as a present, wine to put down for a few years. Drinking some of that stuff is just heaven for me.
But then you realise that these bottles are now selling for €100+ and realise that ever sip is about €3....tis a bit of an eye opener!

jimgoose

There are some very decent wines around the place in local offies nowadays for around €7-8. Although I still grab a couple of bottles of Sancerre at Christmas, 'cos I can!

Philo Beddoe

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

Last Saturday I had some guests around to mine. We shared a fantastic bottle of 2001 Joh. Jos. Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese Lange Goldkapsel. I paired it with the wild venision main and it was simply phenomenal. Of course you're going to have to pay for that. It simply would not have been the same as if I had got a 2012 Cheateau Mass Produced Vinegar.

Come the revolution, first against the wall.

jimgoose

Philo Beddoe wrote: »

Come the revolution, first against the wall.

Hardly. I notice they're selling venison in Aldi these days, as well as rather decent-looking goose. The cannibals!! :mad:

Philo Beddoe

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

That's like suggesting people build their own cars. They might succeed, in that they'll have a vehicle with four-wheels and a steering wheel, but its not going to be near the quality of a car built by an expert car manufacturer.

It's not really, because a car is a very complicated machine and the product of well over 100 years worth of engineering development, while wine is fermented grapes. It's more like saying that a bunch of guys with guitars, drums and a modicum of ability can make good music - while they may not reproduce the genius of Mozart, Never Mind the Bollocks is a damn fine album.

Paulownia

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

With very few exceptions the majority of wine under €12 on sale in Ireland is nasty swill. Fine if your modus operandi is to get pissed and talk shîte on the Internet; not so good if you want to actually enjoy the taste of decent wine.

Lidl have a super Gavi at around 8 euro and some good Italian reds at about the same price. Not nasty at all

miss no stars

If you want good wine at good prices keep an eye on the wine section in Tesco. Every now and then they do terrific savings - €18 bottles down to €9 a bottle, sometimes with extra savings if you buy 6 bottles at a time. Dunno about their white wines - white I usually only drink with fish or in summer with light meals, so usually stick to red wine - but if you keep your eyes open you can get really good wines at decent enough prices so just stock up when you see it. (Bring a bottle home, see if you like it, go back for the case or two if you do )

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

Lidl do some nice wines for under 7 euro a bottle. There's a lot of wine snobbery, you don't have to pay a lot of money to get a tasty bottle of wine. All said and done it comes down to personal preference.

There are very few good wines for under €7 a bottle. There's drinkable, but that doesn't make a wine good, it makes it drinkable. If that's all you want, happy days.

There's actually quite a bit of reverse snobbery with wine (and most things) in this country. Was in Lidl looking for a couple of bottles of two particular wines, guy huffing and puffing trying to impress as the big wine guy, gives out about a particular white wine being gone. Sympathised with him and said Tesco down the road might have something he might like seeing as Lidl don't and he goes "Sure their selection is rubbish". Sorry, but no, it's not. Their selection really isn't. So okay, I say that I've heard good things about the two particular red wines I was in for (btw, Lidl have a wine rating scale that's fairly decent, look for anything over a 90 if you want something nice) and he goes "nah I only drink white and I want it with my steak tonight". Right. Off you trot, ya gobsh!te.

Shiraz 4.99

Wine is quite ****in' simple.
White: New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc €11
Red: South American Shiraz €8

Find the one you like then take a picture with your phone.
Easy peasy.

KungPao

I don't know my claret from my beaujolais, so any old vin ordinaire will do for me - the cheaper, the better.