PES Nostalgia

Mikeyt086

So I recently gave my PS2 a dust down and had a pop on PES 5 to have a look at my Master League, and I was overcome with nostalgia. It made me want to do two things:

1) Start a thread where people can share their random bits of nostalgia from the series that was undisputed king from 2002ish-2007ish.

and 2) Write a fictional blog post about what happened to the default Master League players after they got replaced.

http://balls.ie/football/default-pro-evo-master-league-players-now/

I have now done both.

Any nuggets of nostalgia you'd care to share?

Tinie

Everyone picking either inter or Brazil online and just passing to Adriano and shooting.

Mikeyt086

Tinie wrote: »

Everyone picking either inter or Brazil online and just passing to Adriano and shooting.

For 3 years!

The only chance you had was the PES 4 AC Milan team.

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Dida
Cafu-Nesta-Stam-Maldini

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Gattuso
Seedorf

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Pirlo

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Kaka
--Shevchenko-Crespo

Dont be at yourself

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

So I recently gave my PS2 a dust down and had a pop on PES 5 to have a look at my Master League, and I was overcome with nostalgia. It made me want to do two things:

1) Start a thread where people can share their random bits of nostalgia from the series that was undisputed king from 2002ish-2007ish.

and 2) Write a fictional blog post about what happened to the default Master League players after they got replaced.

http://balls.ie/football/default-pro-evo-master-league-players-now/

I have now done both.

Any nuggets of nostalgia you'd care to share?

Saw the post on Balls.ie earlier, gave me a good laugh! Passed it on to some of the dev team in the UK, they enjoyed it too!

Never played much Master League. For me, the 'all time great' teams in PES were the Dutch team in ISS 98 (Overmars, Berkgkamp, Kluivert etc), and Valencia circa 05/06 with Joaquin and Vicente on the wings. You could keep your Adriano!

MD1990

PES 5 is my favourite game of all time. If Fifa & PES combined & had the gameplay of PES 5 & graphics,licenses,presentation of Fifa 15 it would be the ultimate videogame.

chavezychavez

I'm going to be shot for sacreligious comments, I know.
I loved PES 4. Still hook up the orig xbox every so often.

But PES 5 wrecked my head. The amount of fouls that were called in it broke my heart.

There was a player you would get as part of your master league team called Burchet I think but it sounded like the commentator was calling him Bird **** everytime he touched the ball!

Who can forget Roberto Larcos, Ryan Gregs and the likes over the years.

Didn't matter though cause the gameplay was that good.

Griever931

Another good thing about the Inter teams besides Adriano was that their defenders had high header and jump skills. I remember scoring a lot of goals that way from the corner kicks.

Shimizu was a very good youth player in master league though I can't recall which game he appeared in first.

PerrinV2

Albert Luque was an absolute hero on PES(was it 5 when he moved to newcastle?)
Get that man some space and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvO0lybkDWY

Albert luque pes 5 long rangers are exactly plentiful on youtube..therefore video quality :pac:

Mikeyt086

Deleted User wrote: »

There was a player you would get as part of your master league team called Burchet I think but it sounded like the commentator was calling him Bird **** everytime he touched the ball!

Who can forget Roberto Larcos, Ryan Gregs and the likes over the years.

Didn't matter though cause the gameplay was that good.

Oh my god yes.

Gonna have to do a follow up for the bench players.

The Little Fella

Anyone have a good word for Vornander. The towering German who was a lynchpin of many a defence in his mid thirties.

gotthebug

Why did ye have to do this . I thinking now maybe it will be back too its best and preordered it today

How Soon Is Now

Used to love playing these games master league was great Fifa s career mode aint come close to it yet!.

Had some great teams back in the day and as others have mentioned some of the original master league players where great. See how many can all remember http://pes.neoseeker.com/wiki/Master_League_Default_Players

Anyone remember iss pro evolution games AMAZING . Iss 2 was the best.

Burlap_Sack

Ah edingson....how I miss thee:D

Cienciano

I remember having an x-port for downloading option files off the net. Playing online with the PS2 was a nightmare but PES was better online then than it is now! It's on a downward spiral, I can't get into fifa. I wish they just had some of the old games in the PSN shop

TimeToShine

It took me years to adjust to FIFA after all the time I put into PES. I remember buying PES 6 and it was pretty much a carbon copy of 5, it all went downhill for them after that.

I'd love for it to make a comeback though, 4 was the best football game of all time in my view.

Mikeyt086

Got a fantastic reaction on Facebook and Twitter to the first post, most demanding the subs, so I went ahead and did part two, featuring the best subs on offer.

http://balls.ie/football/part-2-default-pro-evo-master-league-players-now-subs-edition/

Once again thanks to Cactus_mac88 for reminding me about Burchet's commentary mishap.

whiskeyman

I played PES4 to PES6 on my PC.
Had it fully patched up with amazing kits, stadiums, balls, boots, tv like logos etc... And even
Fifa
commentary!
It was simply the best football SIM experience I've ever played. Nothing has topped it since, and I still go back to it, usually around Nov each year as the most recent PES turns out to be yet another disappointment.
Hoping to be proved wrong this year...

Tinie

whiskeyman wrote: »

I played PES4 to PES6 on my PC.
Had it fully patched up with amazing kits, stadiums, balls, boots, tv like logos etc... And even
Fifa
commentary!

Wait, what?

Got a link to where you got that from?

whiskeyman

Tinie wrote: »

Wait, what?

Got a link to where you got that from?

It was either as part of a full patch, shollym
patch I think, or I downloaded via the fantastic evo-web.co.UK forum.
http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/
You'll need to register (free) but it's full of amazing pes downloads, especially for pc users. Option files for consoles don't have the same depth of changes.
It really nailed it as its fantastic having decent commentary because the Pes default is so poor... the downloads
even include real recorded club chants and new goal celebration sounds! It's like a whole new game once u get it fully patched up. It takes a bit of time and tweaking, but
still with it as its worth it! I even got a ps2 to pc adapter to plug in the controls.

Herds a Facebook link to the patch I mentioned.https://m.facebook.com/ShollymPatch.
I think he only does pes06?

The Friendly Newcomer

I used to only buy PES but I have moved to Fifa over the last few years.

I used to absolutely love the master league. I used to always play a 4-1-2-3. Very attacking. I would usually play as PSV, Real Betis and Valencia.

The three up front were always my most important part of my team.

PSV:

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Farfan----Kluivert----Beasley

Real Betis:

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Joaquin----R. Oliveira----Denilsen

Valencia:

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Villa----Morientes----Vicente

Good times.

mackeire

Anyone remember Dagaka?

The Friendly Newcomer

Everyone's gotta remember Barota, Castolo, Ximenes, Kelson and the likes.

The Little Fella

mackeire wrote: »

Anyone remember Dagaka?

Beast. And mathieu in the other full back position. Think dagaka is actually Degagah that played for Fulham last season

whiskeyman

PES Nostalgia:
I remember getting PES06 on the release date, and heading home on the luas.
I saw two other lads sat nearby who also must have just bought it, and were engrossed in the booklet reading all the new controls / tricks etc...
That sense of pure excitement waiting to get home and fire it up was amazing.
You just knew this was the best footie game around... and it perhaps just got better!

mackeire

The Little Fella wrote: »

Beast. And mathieu in the other full back position. Think dagaka is actually Degagah that played for Fulham last season

He's actually a called Hussain Kaebi.
Iranian full back.
There's a video of him on youtube hacking the legs off Ronaldo and figo

Griever931

I used to pick Ajax a lot in the Master League. Had a good few good players with good development, Sneijder, van der Vaart, Stekelenberg, Nigel De Jong, Emanuelson, Ibrahimovic etc.

phobia2011

Dont be at yourself wrote: »

Saw the post on Balls.ie earlier, gave me a good laugh! Passed it on to some of the dev team in the UK, they enjoyed it too!

Never played much Master League. For me, the 'all time great' teams in PES were the Dutch team in ISS 98 (Overmars, Berkgkamp, Kluivert etc), and Valencia circa 05/06 with Joaquin and Vicente on the wings. You could keep your Adriano!

Seedorf + Davids who had a rasper of a shot.

Hotfail.com

Castolo was god!

Awwwww, old PES was absolutely brilliant.

Wilberto

Ruskin was a regular in my team. As far as I remember he had pace to burn!


I used to love challenging myself against all the "Inter-whores" online though, and remember beating them with the likes of Watford, Fulham, and hammering them 3-0 with Spanish basement club Gimnastic.


I had a massively enjoyable Master League with Fulham. Used to play a 4-2-3-1 formation (sometimes changing to a 4-1-4-1), with Radsinski up top on his own, and Claus Jensen as the attacking central midfielder. Boupa Diop was also a star performer for me, as was Boa Morte.

Pac1Man

"They're going at it hammer and tongs."

Oat23

Couldn't find a PES 5 key anywhere so I had to torrent it. I plugged my PS4 controller into the PC and had a lot of fun on it last night!

Arghus

My favourite football game of all time, perhaps favourite game full stop, was PES 5. The amount of hours I poured into that game was staggering. I could have mastered a couple of foreign languages or become an instrumental virtuoso in that space of time.

Instead I created the greatest computer generated team ever assembled.

That particular version of the game hasn't been topped since in my eyes. I've played four or five iterations since and it's like meeting a once dear friend that you've grown estranged from over the years. Some of the magic was still there but it wasn't what I loved so much. It particularity didn't help that the first couple of versions of the PS3/360 generation were absolute muck.

The quality started to leak out once they went to years instead of numbers. I remember PES 2008 being particularly abysmal, with goalies that couldn't catch a cold or make a save without parrying the ball directly to the opposing striker.I wanted that game to be great. I've been wary of the PR from Konami ever since. That year was supposed to be the year that they got how to replicate the magic with the "new" generation. Every version since has been supposedly the year where they turn the corner and yet the still haven't topped that golden age of 2003-2007.

Having said that if there's a small chance this upcoming version turns out to be okay, I'd consider calling on it once again. Not that I'll listen to the guys involved. I'll talk to the people I know who, like me, spent hundreds of hours trying to score free kicks in the early to mid noughties.

I've played FIFA a few times since. I know the consensus is that it's the top dog in the soccer wars these days, but I still can't get totally behind it. The sheen and the lacquer are a bit nauseating to me. It's all very Sky Sports. Flashy and fake. I still think the gameplay lacks the responsiveness of PES. I've played on a few occasions with people who are a bit younger than myself and I think of the ultimate horror- these people have grown up in a world where FIFA is and has been King for a long time. This is all they know. A feeling of pity crosses my heart.

Because PES gameplay was so, so good I could look beyond and even eventually grew to love the basic menus, the dumb soundtrack, Peter Brackley and the made up team names. That was all part of the charm.

FIFA looked good on the surface but had no soul. PES wasn't too pretty, but it was beautiful.

stuchyg

Owing to this thread i went to GameStop yesterday and bought PES 14. Needed a master league fix

Josey Wales

The best player to ever be a part of PES was Jeremy Mathieu. I think it was between PES3 and PES5. He was a full back by trade but I always played him in an attacking midfield position.

His dribbling was good but his long range passing was god-like. His attributed used to go sky high too.

Anyone else ever use him like this?

Also have a fondness for Ruskin and Cellini. Always the last two to replace in Master League. But I always hated Minada. Always too slow for me.

J Mysterio

Me and my brother had a Master league team going in PES4 for a long, long time. We did the same in previous but I remember that being the most fun.

We had a philosophy of buying 'cool' players who were not well known and then developing them. It was unacceptable to buy a Michael Owen or the like. I even remember the arguments of who we would buy and why - 'aw c'mon! He has cool hair!' I still follow that philosophy, more or less, since the migration to Fifa.

I played the Management Mode in Fifa 12 but its not as enjoyable as the Master League was. The developing and degrading of players was a great concept. Since the advent of online gaming though, Ive been playing Ultimate Team. It doesnt feel anywhere as involved as the Master League or even Management Mode in Fifa but theres something about challenging other random humans which makes it inevitable that I play UT over MM. I wish they would allow you to get deeper though (in tactics etc.) than wat is the case.

I will be watching this years PES closely as it seems they may be matching up with FIFA again for the first time in years. Interesting that the release is like 2 months(?) later than FIFA.

Mikeyt086

Arghus wrote: »

My favourite football game of all time, perhaps favourite game full stop, was PES 5. The amount of hours I poured into that game was staggering. I could have mastered a couple of foreign languages or become an instrumental virtuoso in that space of time.

Instead I created the greatest computer generated team ever assembled.

That particular version of the game hasn't been topped since in my eyes. I've played four or five iterations since and it's like meeting a once dear friend that you've grown estranged from over the years. Some of the magic was still there but it wasn't what I loved so much. It particularity didn't help that the first couple of versions of the PS3/360 generation were absolute muck.

The quality started to leak out once they went to years instead of numbers. I remember PES 2008 being particularly abysmal, with goalies that couldn't catch a cold or make a save without parrying the ball directly to the opposing striker.I wanted that game to be great. I've been wary of the PR from Konami ever since. That year was supposed to be the year that they got how to replicate the magic with the "new" generation. Every version since has been supposedly the year where they turn the corner and yet the still haven't topped that golden age of 2003-2007.

Having said that if there's a small chance this upcoming version turns out to be okay, I'd consider calling on it once again. Not that I'll listen to the guys involved. I'll talk to the people I know who, like me, spent hundreds of hours trying to score free kicks in the early to mid noughties.

I've played FIFA a few times since. I know the consensus is that it's the top dog in the soccer wars these days, but I still can't get totally behind it. The sheen and the lacquer are a bit nauseating to me. It's all very Sky Sports. Flashy and fake. I still think the gameplay lacks the responsiveness of PES. I've played on a few occasions with people who are a bit younger than myself and I think of the ultimate horror- these people have grown up in a world where FIFA is and has been King for a long time. This is all they know. A feeling of pity crosses my heart.

Because PES gameplay was so, so good I could look beyond and even eventually grew to love the basic menus, the dumb soundtrack, Peter Brackley and the made up team names. That was all part of the charm.

FIFA looked good on the surface but had no soul. PES wasn't too pretty, but it was beautiful.

No, that post was beautiful.

docmartin

I used to always play as Celtic, (or sometimes create the MD stars) I'd pretend my celtic team had all perished in a tragic bus accident (much like harchester united fro sky ones Dream Team series) and begin the rebuilding job towards Global domination.

I favoured a 4-3-3 formation,real GAA style with 4 teak tough defenders, 3 half forwards, A giant full forward (usually Olivier Bierhoff) on top of the square knocking balls down to the pacey corner forwards, Michael owen and Henry were always the dream ticket here. Bierhoff won all the kickouts that the goalie would lump up, head them on around the back for the pacey lads to run onto.

Amazing memories

forzacalcio

Arghus wrote: »

My favourite football game of all time, perhaps favourite game full stop, was PES 5. The amount of hours I poured into that game was staggering. I could have mastered a couple of foreign languages or become an instrumental virtuoso in that space of time.

Instead I created the greatest computer generated team ever assembled.

That particular version of the game hasn't been topped since in my eyes. I've played four or five iterations since and it's like meeting a once dear friend that you've grown estranged from over the years. Some of the magic was still there but it wasn't what I loved so much. It particularity didn't help that the first couple of versions of the PS3/360 generation were absolute muck.

The quality started to leak out once they went to years instead of numbers. I remember PES 2008 being particularly abysmal, with goalies that couldn't catch a cold or make a save without parrying the ball directly to the opposing striker.I wanted that game to be great. I've been wary of the PR from Konami ever since. That year was supposed to be the year that they got how to replicate the magic with the "new" generation. Every version since has been supposedly the year where they turn the corner and yet the still haven't topped that golden age of 2003-2007.

Having said that if there's a small chance this upcoming version turns out to be okay, I'd consider calling on it once again. Not that I'll listen to the guys involved. I'll talk to the people I know who, like me, spent hundreds of hours trying to score free kicks in the early to mid noughties.

I've played FIFA a few times since. I know the consensus is that it's the top dog in the soccer wars these days, but I still can't get totally behind it. The sheen and the lacquer are a bit nauseating to me. It's all very Sky Sports. Flashy and fake. I still think the gameplay lacks the responsiveness of PES. I've played on a few occasions with people who are a bit younger than myself and I think of the ultimate horror- these people have grown up in a world where FIFA is and has been King for a long time. This is all they know. A feeling of pity crosses my heart.

Because PES gameplay was so, so good I could look beyond and even eventually grew to love the basic menus, the dumb soundtrack, Peter Brackley and the made up team names. That was all part of the charm.

FIFA looked good on the surface but had no soul. PES wasn't too pretty, but it was beautiful.

That post just brought back so many memories and back to the early mid noughties in my early 20s, no cares, just hoping Id find a few quid down the side of the couch to buy a few cans and have the lads over and play PES all weekend after a night out Friday night.

Youre right, it was beautiful, I was a proper FIFA head until maybe FIFA 2002 and moved to PES for about 3/4 years, the craic, banter and laughs we all had. Being able to put Cork City into a football sim for the very first time, fans of the club swapping around the same memory card so we could all upload it and play as City. Id say 4/500 houses in Cork had that memory card.

Im truely a FIFA head now, going back to PES would just bring back too many good memories that would never be matched and Id just look around wondering, Im playing PES, where are all the lads gone?:(

razorblunt

Josey Wales wrote: »

The best player to ever be a part of PES was Jeremy Mathieu. I think it was between PES3 and PES5. He was a full back by trade but I always played him in an attacking midfield position.

His dribbling was good but his long range passing was god-like. His attributed used to go sky high too.

Anyone else ever use him like this?

Also have a fondness for Ruskin and Cellini. Always the last two to replace in Master League. But I always hated Minada. Always too slow for me.

Take that back! Minanda was always there for cleared corners right on top of the D, take a touch then shoot. The amount of games he won for me!

I could never bring myself to sell the goalie (Ivarov?), I figured playing behind a dodgy defence if he didnt mess up I could never get rid.

Alan Smithee

International Superstar Soccer, Pro Evolution and Pes still brings misty eyed nostalgia to this rapidly aging father and husband as powerful as any memory, reminiscing about lost love, that concert, that song, those nights that you wished would last forever, All Irelands, Champions Leagues, Ryder cups all lost and won.
That game in its many forms bring me back to a time before responsibility, mortgages and health insurance; sat on a series of hygienically deficient couches in houses unfit for human habitation with friends and the occasional stranger some of whom I haven't seen in years and may sadly never see again. We are all grown up now in different parts of the country and the globe but I still remember the countless matches equalled only by the number of cans, beer bottles and questionable takeaways.

I remember most the chats (often heartfelt and sad), the laughs, the drunken rants the thrown controllers, the walkouts, the one more match and still being there hours later and the all nighters (often after a barren visit to the Nightclub).

I remember the looks of amusement or disgust from others who didn't "get it"(we secretly pitied those souls) and the howls of derision we reserved for the poor fool who preferred Fifa France 98 just because of the "cool soundtrack". I remember too the awful commentary, Trad Brick Stadium, makeup names and North London.

I remember that one match as clearly as Paul McGrath's towering performance against Italy and Baggio in particular and Ray Houghtons wonder goal. It was 1999and it was the Milan derby. I was down 4 nil no words were spoken but the look of smug satisfaction on my friends face was matched only by my repressed seething rage. Half time time to breath, formation change and it's a complete turnaround 4-4 my friend is a ball of anger full of hateful intent; I smell blood I keep pressing my advantage, I have chances but I lose in the last minute 5_4. We both laugh it was either that or fight (he was much bigger) We still see each other occasionally we aren't close and conversation can be awkward until we talk about that match.

I still buy Pes every year I don't know why as I rarely play it. Perhaps it's out of nostalgia, habit or a two finger salute at the masses who slobber over Fifa and those licenced Leagues and proper kits. I bought Fifa too the other day in a moment of weakness (it's hard to resist EA's marketing) but sold it after 3 days to finance a new phone.

Pro Evo is still a good game I think but the Internet tells me otherwise. I'm also told I'm too old for games (my wife, my children,my own mind!!). But I do know that no matter how good the next game is or what metacritic rating it gets it can for me never be those games of my past.

I will never have those times again and that's OK. The memories and the smile it brings to my face is reward enough for that time spent but never wasted.

And yes if I'm in a restaurant I will order the Seabass and to myself secretly salute that genius as great as any. You can have your Spielbergs, Shakespeares Picasso or Mozart. Pro Evo at that moment in time was my high art.

Call Me Jimmy

I remember the first time I played PES 4 I think it was. Ronaldinho (whatever his fake name was) tips off and dribbles around in a couple of circles, cue me screaming in my mind:

IT'S DOING EXACTLY WHAT I WANT, IT'S REAL, THIS IS HAPPENING!

I knew immediately this was going to be a big part of my life for the foreseeable. Most memorable game was when my younger brother, who rarely beat me, whopped me 10 - 0. I was going insane '****ing BULL****' said about a thousand times. In anger I said REMATCH and then he beat me 2-0.

Good times over the years...

Oh and Shout out to Roberto Larcos!

J Mysterio

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

I was going insane '****ing BULL****'

lol, this.

razorblunt

On the theme of tournaments against the lads, we always played it before a night out, usually 4 of us, round robin. There was always one guy who was awful even though he played it as much as us, but he'd end up the whipping boy and it was always a case of "you need to beat him by 6 clear goals to win outright" so we'd all inevitably be behind him if we were hoping for the other to lost.

Coming towards the end of college he was playing, final game, the other guy just needed to draw I think, it was 0-0 all about 10 minutes to go, he was on classic Netherlands, and was straight through on goal, for some reason he turned to face the sideline at the last second as the keepr was rushed out, in his panic he ended up hitting cross rather than shoot. It ended up being goal and you could see the red x inside the goal when we all realised what was going to happen, the then #1 lad was rushing back with his controlled defender and keeper. It all went in slow motion and just about cleared the goal line. Pandemonium!

Dont be at yourself

Looks like some familiar names will be appearing as players' agents in PES2015's new myClub mode (Ultimate Team equivalent):

https://twitter.com/WENB_Italia/status/522475515710824448

J Mysterio

Kewl!