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Things that should be here technologically already/Technology suppression

  • 14-08-2014 10:38pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭


    If we can send man to the moon and and un-manned missions to Mars why cant we fully charge a smartphone in 60 seconds or a Tablet in 2 minutes?

    Ive a funny feeling Apple already have the capability to give us the specs of the iPhone 10 tomorrow, but that would get in the way of things like making money ;)

    What are some of the things that you think should be here technologically already and what technology do you think is suppressed?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    If we can send man to the moon and and un-manned missions to Mars why cant we fully charge a smartphone in 60 seconds or a Tablet in 2 minutes?

    I'd like to know why they haven't sent a woman to the moon yet, specifically Linda Martin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    If we can send man to the moon and and un-manned missions to Mars why cant we fully charge a smartphone in 60 seconds or a Tablet in 2 minutes?

    Ive a funny feeling Apple already have the capability to give us the specs of the iPhone 10 tomorrow, but that would get in the way of things like mmaking money ;)

    What are some of the things that you think should be here technologically already and what technology do you think is suppressed?

    Laws of physics/thermodynamics ? No superconductor works at room temperatures. Well yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Screw that,
    Bring on Replicator technology.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    Spellcheck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    A car that does 200 mpg. Where's the profit in that? Going by the computer industry, we should have cars that cost €3000 and do that mileage in their sleep.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,857 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    If we can send man to the moon and and un-manned missions to Mars why cant we fully charge a smartphone in 60 seconds or a Tablet in 2 minutes?

    Ive a funny feeling Apple already have the capability to give us the specs of the iPhone 10 tomorrow, but that would get in the way of things like mmaking money ;)

    What are some of the things that you think should be here technologically already and what technology do you think is suppressed?

    What does a funny feeling feel like?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    What does a funny feeling feel like?

    Like this



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 680 ✭✭✭MS.ing


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    If we can send man to the moon and and un-manned missions to Mars why cant we fully charge a smartphone in 60 seconds or a Tablet in 2 minutes?

    Ive a funny feeling Apple already have the capability to give us the specs of the iPhone 10 tomorrow, but that would get in the way of things like making money ;)

    What are some of the things that you think should be here technologically already and what technology do you think is suppressed?

    they have that one already, just not ready for market yet (needs fancy 'designed' user friendly design, and a bit of shrinkage before they will cell it)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    MS.ing wrote: »
    they have that one already, just not ready for market yet (needs fancy 'designed' user friendly design, and a bit of shrinkage before they will cell it)

    I see what you did there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭alan4cult


    Because we didn't send a man to the moon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    alan4cult wrote: »
    Because we didn't send a man to the moon.

    Oooh Yes we did! Oooh No we didn't! Off we go...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    If we can send man to the moon and and un-manned missions to Mars why cant we fully charge a smartphone in 60 seconds or a Tablet in 2 minutes?

    Its just not possible to deliver a substantial amount of charge into a battery at the time you have proposed. Its that apples and oranges arguement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    Its just not possible to deliver a substantial amount of charge into a battery at the time you have proposed. Its that apples and oranges arguement.

    But mostly,its just not commercially viable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    Oooh Yes we did! Oooh No we didn't! Off we go...

    The moon doesn't even exist. It's all an illusion engineered by the US government and moses


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    We had supersonic air travel already; Concorde (and to a lesser extent the Russian/Soviet version, the Tupolev Tu-144. Imaginatively dubbed "Concordeski" in the West). Of course, we all know what happened to Concorde. Retired ignominiously in 2003 following a single crash three years previous.

    Concorde was a thing of beauty. I was lucky enough to see one in flight. This was no mere machine. This had a soul. It was graceful, beautiful, breathtaking and awe-inspiring. It was also the only successful commercial supersonic passenger jet in history (Concordeski stayed behind the Iron Curtain mostly and was never that successful).

    Since the demise of Concorde, only military jets achieve supersonic speed any more.

    Of course, there is now more money in quantity, not quality. This has led to the creation of mammoth, ugly planes like the Airbus A380. A cattleshed with wings. But when you can cram 800+ passengers into it, it pays for itself.

    Concorde was a marvel of engineering. However, only capable of holding roughly 100 passengers, it was not economically viable.

    However, with all our technological marvels of the modern day, is it not about time we could cross the Atlantic in 3 hours (or less) again? No more fúcking endless 12-hour flights? Bring back supersonic air travel again. Make planes more than just about function. How many young lads were inspired to become pilots by seeing Concorde taking to the air?

    Supersonic air travel. Let's be having you back!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Uriel. wrote: »
    But mostly,its just not commercially viable.

    Is it though i think its just not possible though.

    There is only so far one can optamise and perfect an item or technology, take the combustion engine they have reached their peak in engineering and alot of the current diesels are a nightmare with issues. They have reverted back to the petrol engine with the small engine again and turbo charging it to optamaise it.

    You can never make a race horse out of a donkey as they say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭Marsden


    The three sea shells from demolition man.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    DazMarz wrote: »
    Of course, there is now more money in quantity, not quality. This has led to the creation of mammoth, ugly planes like the Airbus A380. A cattleshed with wings. But when you can cram 800+ passengers into it, it pays for itself.

    Concorde was a marvel of engineering. However, only capable of holding roughly 100 passengers, it was not economically viable.


    Why cant they just design a Concorde that holds 400 people (800 at that speed is ambitious) and charge passengers an extra premium? Its a no brainer.

    Dublin to New York in 3 hours should be more than do-able by now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,812 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    Timetravel machines should have been invented by now, but it wasn't.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    Timetravel machines should have been invented by now, but it wasn't.

    They will be invented three years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    Fast Broadband for rural users... we can thank Eircom for monopolising the market.

    /rabble rabble rabble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    A Death Star

    This Isn't the Petition Response You're Looking For

    By Paul Shawcross
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    The construction of the Death Star has been estimated to cost more than $850,000,000,000,000,000. We're working hard to reduce the deficit, not expand it.
    The Administration does not support blowing up planets.
    Why would we spend countless taxpayer dollars on a Death Star with a fundamental flaw that can be exploited by a one-man starship?
    However, look carefully (here's how) and you'll notice something already floating in the sky -- that's no Moon, it's a Space Station! Yes, we already have a giant, football field-sized International Space Station in orbit around the Earth that's helping us learn how humans can live and thrive in space for long durations. The Space Station has six astronauts -- American, Russian, and Canadian -- living in it right now, conducting research, learning how to live and work in space over long periods of time, routinely welcoming visiting spacecraft and repairing onboard garbage mashers, etc. We've also got two robot science labs -- one wielding a laser -- roving around Mars, looking at whether life ever existed on the Red Planet.

    Keep in mind, space is no longer just government-only. Private American companies, through NASA's Commercial Crew and Cargo Program Office (C3PO), are ferrying cargo -- and soon, crew -- to space for NASA, and are pursuing human missions to the Moon this decade.

    Even though the United States doesn't have anything that can do the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs, we've got two spacecraft leaving the Solar System and we're building a probe that will fly to the exterior layers of the Sun. We are discovering hundreds of new planets in other star systems and building a much more powerful successor to the Hubble Space Telescope that will see back to the early days of the universe.

    We don't have a Death Star, but we do have floating robot assistants on the Space Station, a President who knows his way around a light saber and advanced (marshmallow) cannon, and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, which is supporting research on building Luke's arm, floating droids, and quadruped walkers.

    We are living in the future! Enjoy it. Or better yet, help build it by pursuing a career in a science, technology, engineering or math-related field. The President has held the first-ever White House science fairs and Astronomy Night on the South Lawn because he knows these domains are critical to our country's future, and to ensuring the United States continues leading the world in doing big things.

    If you do pursue a career in a science, technology, engineering or math-related field, the Force will be with us! Remember, the Death Star's power to destroy a planet, or even a whole star system, is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

    Paul Shawcross is Chief of the Science and Space Branch at the White House Office of Management and Budget

    lies and spin

    just build the fecking thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Holodecks

    They'd advertise them as allowing you to climb everest or swim with great whites or some such shít - but what you'd probably be more likely to use it for a threesome with kate winslett and scarlett johanson.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭kingtiger


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    If we can send man to the moon and and un-manned missions to Mars why cant we fully charge a smartphone in 60 seconds or a Tablet in 2 minutes?

    ahh its been done

    http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/07/storedots-bio-organic-battery-tech-can-charge-from-flat-to-full-in-30-seconds/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    Why cant they just design a Concorde that holds 400 people (800 at that speed is ambitious) and charge passengers an extra premium? Its a no brainer.

    Dublin to New York in 3 hours should be more than do-able by now.
    Since the advent of video conferencing, the demand for being able to get from London to New York in 3 hours has plummeted. It's just more economical to put 500 people on a 747 and have it take 2 more hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    kingtiger wrote: »

    Have away with that - don't you know Ireland's boycotting Israeli products?! :mad:

    Plus that demo doesn't tell the capacity of the battery - it could only last 1 hour for all you know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    Japanese shîtters. They have heated seats, jets of warm water and warm air, phone docking stations and a modesty button you can press to block out the sounds of a particularly unpleasant movement. None of these features have made it to toilets in Europe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    Holodecks

    They'd advertise them as allowing you to climb everest or swim with great whites or some such shít - but what you'd probably be more likely to use it for a threesome with kate winslett and scarlett johanson.

    Give me some whiskey and two Scarlett Johansons please holodeck. One blonde, one brunette.

    What about red headed Scarlett...?

    Give me three Scarlett Johanssons please holodeck...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭kingtiger


    BeerWolf wrote: »
    Have away with that - don't you know Ireland's boycotting Israeli products?! :mad:

    Plus that demo doesn't tell the capacity of the battery - it could only last 1 hour for all you know.

    its a prototype

    its just shows that its possible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    longshanks wrote: »
    Give me some whiskey and two Scarlett Johansons please holodeck. One blonde, one brunette.

    What about red headed Scarlett...?

    Give me three Scarlett Johanssons please holodeck...

    Ah, technology ain't it great. 3 more scarletts and 3 beyonce chasers please, and whatever you're having yourself holodeck.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 920 ✭✭✭Dramatik


    I wish someone would invent silent lawn mowers and silent hoovers, I'm sick of being woken up from a nice kip by either one of these items.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    Why cant they just design a Concorde that holds 400 people (800 at that speed is ambitious) and charge passengers an extra premium? Its a no brainer.

    If its a no brainer why don't you design and produce one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭Stainless_Steel


    Get an engineering degree. You will then understand to some degree what these hair brain ideas take to implement.

    You will then be told how daft you are when you ask your board for capital approval.

    You will then be out of a job as a loony engineer.

    You will then not ask stupid questions on the internet.

    You will then have more time to use the internet as a masturbation aid.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭Echoes675


    Hoverboards! We've all wanted one since we saw Marty McFly with one in Back To The Future pt2!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    A car that does 200 mpg. Where's the profit in that? Going by the computer industry, we should have cars that cost €3000 and do that mileage in their sleep.

    There's nothing in particular that makes computers twice as cheap/powerful every 18 months but it's just a general trend in efficiency and technological development.

    I don't think there's any particular reason it doesn't apply to the combustion engines but there's no reason why it would either.
    I doubt it applies to the efficiency in mining, production of textiles or farming yields either.

    If you look at companies like Tesla, clearly you can find a market for super-efficient cars and it would be in companies' interests to make them.

    The sabotage they're facing from the car industry's cosy relationship with the state in the US has been a stumbling block but it hasn't stopped them from trying and, as far as I know, succeeding.

    I don't think the logic lay-people use to make claims about technology being held back are usually underpinned by a good enough understanding of the relevant engineering problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,073 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    If we can send man to the moon and and un-manned missions to Mars why cant we fully charge a smartphone in 60 seconds or a Tablet in 2 minutes?
    Short version: fast charging means sending the energy over the wires in a shorter period of time (more power), which would take thicker wires and generate more heat in the process, something the batteries don't like either. The only way around the power/heat problem is superconductors, a subject getting intensive research.

    There are fast charging stations for electric cars (like ESBs), which are beefed-up to give an 80% charge in 25 mins instead of 4-6 hours, but you don't want to do that every time. A 2-minute phone charge is a bit much to expect with current electrical technology.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Some peoples expectations of new tech discoveries/developments is akin to someone in the 80's reading about the new fangled brick mobile phones and exclaiming that Motorola are holding back their iPhone beating smartphone because they want to drip feed us the tech and sell us a new mobile phone every year or two between 1984 and 2014.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭The One Doctor


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    If we can send man to the moon and and un-manned missions to Mars why cant we fully charge a smartphone in 60 seconds or a Tablet in 2 minutes?

    Ive a funny feeling Apple already have the capability to give us the specs of the iPhone 10 tomorrow, but that would get in the way of things like making money ;)

    What are some of the things that you think should be here technologically already and what technology do you think is suppressed?

    And how would charging a phone in 60 seconds make a difference to your life exactly?

    Chances are that if it charged in 60 seconds you'd just whine about it not charging in 10 seconds.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    kingtiger wrote: »
    its a prototype

    its just shows that its possible

    Iirc you can only cycle it a few times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    eoin_mcg wrote: »
    Hoverboards! We've all wanted one since we saw Marty McFly with one in Back To The Future pt2!!

    I don't. I always thought he looked like a smug prick on that thing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    And how would charging a phone in 60 seconds make a difference to your life exactly?

    Because it would charge in 60 seconds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Get an engineering degree. You will then understand to some degree what these hair brain ideas take to implement.

    You will then be told how daft you are when you ask your board for capital approval.

    You will then be out of a job as a loony engineer.

    You will then not ask stupid questions on the internet.

    You will then have more time to use the internet as a masturbation aid.

    The brutal truth :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    bnt wrote: »
    The only way around the power/heat problem is superconductors, a subject getting intensive research.

    Will they eventually be as cheap to make as standard chargers? Thats all Apple and Samsung will care about


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Biccies that make the tea for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭JohnMarston


    Screw that,
    Bring on Replicator technology.

    I second this. First thing i'll be ordering is an Earl Grey. Hot


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    IvaBigWun wrote: »

    Hologram computers should have existed years ago, but no sign of them still.
    IvaBigWun;91733984]Like this.

    Or like this...


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You can keep your futuristic phones and your food replicators, I'd be delighted with just this:



    Although less claw-like would be good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    Candie wrote: »
    You can keep your futuristic phones and your food replicators, I'd be delighted with just this:



    Although less claw-like would be good.

    I wouldnt mind one of those devices to change my hair from grey to any colour, that would be nice :D


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