Cyclists breaking lights!!

jkiamasnake

I am still in shock! I had an accident today and I am still shaking. I was at a junction this morning, my green filter light to turn right came on so I continued to proceed, I traveled about 15 feet and am almost into the junction where I wanted to travel to and a cyclist smashes into the side of my car doing considerable damage to my door. Thankfully the cyclist was ok too but I was in so much shock I could not think properly. The cyclist picked himself up, fixed his chain and continues on. I said to him that he broke a red light and that he will have to repair damage done to my car. He says accidents happen and that he doesnt have any money to fix it. He said he was late for work and continued on.

I am sick of cyclists everyday breaking lights...they seriously need to cop the f**k on and obey rules of the road.

sblythe

Driver's break red lights too, you know. Are you sick of those?

fxotoole

Cyclists do it more regularly than drivers though. They think that the law shouldn't apply to them and don't bother their holes obeying the rules of the road

sblythe

fxotoole wrote: »

They think that the law shouldn't apply to them and don't bother their holes obeying the rules of the road

Generalisation much. I cycle and I drive a car and obeying the Road traffic acts are in my best interests regardless of my mode of transport. Some cyclists are assholes as are some drivers, but nothing grinds my gears than people who use the above quote.

super_furry

They don't even pay road tax Joe!

c0rk3r

This isn't over OP ! THIS ISNT OVER!

We are all creatures of habit. I bet you anything that dude will cycle the same route tomorrow at the same time. If not tomorrow then on Monday or Tuesday etc. Spot him then follow him to work. Then straight to the guards to make a complaint about a hit and run. You can do this today... I think... If there was any cameras in the area that could help too. I wouldn't be letting this one go, well... not easily.

No one **** over c0rk3r! No one !

kneemos

Was it your front door or back door he smashed in?

Svalbard

Well I'm a cyclist and a driver too and I see cyclists breaking red lights everyday. Sometimes I think I'm the only cyclist who doesn't.

jkiamasnake

sblythe wrote: »

Driver's break red lights too, you know. Are you sick of those?

I am fully aware of that. but this thread is not about that!! My OP was a cyclist broke a red light and crashed into me causing considerable shock and leaving me a state of shock. He broke the light, is wrong, has no insurance and I am left with a heft bill to fix something that was not my fault!! how is that fair?

Turtyturd

Write it off as a lesson learned OP....and make sure they can't get up next time.

The Moldy Gowl

I cycle to work and I like to swerve around the broken lines in the middle of the road.

I get bored and cycle really slow in the bus lane.

Most of the time I slow down for a red light though but then I get to it and give the cars the middle finger and avoid any pedestrians walking with the green man.

blackwhite

jkiamasnake wrote: »

I am still in shock! I had an accident today and I am still shaking. I was at a junction this morning, my green filter light to turn right came on so I continued to proceed, I traveled about 15 feet and am almost into the junction where I wanted to travel to and a cyclist smashes into the side of my car doing considerable damage to my door. Thankfully the cyclist was ok too but I was in so much shock I could not think properly. The cyclist picked himself up, fixed his chain and continues on. I said to him that he broke a red light and that he will have to repair damage done to my car. He says accidents happen and that he doesnt have any money to fix it. He said he was late for work and continued on.

I am sick of cyclists everyday breaking lights...they seriously need to cop the f**k on and obey rules of the road.

One utter c*nt of a cyclist doesn't mean that all cyclists are the same.

I hope you called the guards to report this, as the cyclist broke the law by leaving the scene of an accident. Even if there was no way of identifying him there might have been a car nearby which could have spotted him, or CCTV or something else.

sblythe wrote: »

Driver's break red lights too, you know. Are you sick of those?

Driver's breaking the law doesn't excuse cyclists doing the same. It doesn't mean that a cyclist who causes an accident is exempt from dealing with the consequences either.

The Moldy Gowl

jkiamasnake wrote: »

I am fully aware of that. but this thread is not about that!! My OP was a cyclist broke a red light and crashed into me causing considerable shock and leaving me a state of shock. He broke the light, is wrong, has no insurance and I am left with a heft bill to fix something that was not my fault!! how is that fair?

You shouldn't have been killing the earth with your fumes. The earth will thank you.

I Heart Internet

A cyclist that does stop at red lights, doesn't travel the wrong ay up one way streets and doesn't cycle all over footpaths is very much the exception.

I am going to walk 2 minutes to my car now and I can pretty much guarantee you that I will see one of these 3 things....

blackwhite

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

You shouldn't have been killing the earth with your fumes. The earth will thank you.

Thanks for trying to exasperate the motorist v cyclist bullsh*t, and for doing your best to make life a bit more difficult for all of us who regularly cycle but don't see being on the road as way to look for fights.

Attitudes like the one you show only serve to fuel conflict on the road, not reduce it.

The Moldy Gowl

blackwhite wrote: »

Thanks for trying to exasperate the motorist v cyclist bullsh*t, and for doing your best to make life a bit more difficult for all of us who regularly cycle but don't see being on the road as way to look for fights.

Attitudes like the one you show only serve to fuel conflict on the road, not reduce it.

Sarcasm, your head, over.

This debate always ends the same. Anyone who thinks cyclists are all gowls are ignorant.
Anyone who thinks motorists are all gowls are all ignorant.

wazky

We all know cyclists are poor people who can't afford to join the the 21st century and buy a car, most of them are illiterate so cannot understand road signs and cannot comprehend the uses of a traffic light.

Sir Arthur Daley

I would have not left that cyclist get away without paying damage, if it were a car that crashed into you wouldn't it be a different story.

TwoShedsJackson

sblythe wrote: »

Driver's break red lights too, you know. Are you sick of those?

Whataboutery in the first post. Well done.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

I don't drive or cycle in cities, and from a pedestrian point of view cyclists are FAR more of a problem than motorists. Been clipped or almost hit several times by cyclists, had to get out of THEIR way on footpaths many more.

No, not every cyclist disobeys the rules of the road, but an awful fcuking lot of them do.

Turtyturd

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

Whataboutery in the first post. Well done.

Next stage is the Schism where the lycra wearers start blaming the Dublin Bike users on giving cyclists a bad name.

seamus

jkiamasnake wrote: »

how is that fair?

It's not. The guy's a scumbag. Same as if someone drove into the side of your car and drove off. Today make a report to the Gardai and go the businesses at the junction and see if their CCTV watches the traffic on the junction. They may have caught it on camera and so can prove your side of the story.

Danjamin1

Jesus not again

porsche959

The reality is the cyclists who engage in this behaviour are going to continue until guards start paying attention and issuing summons.

circadian

As a pedestrian this infuriates me.

Last week a cyclist skipped a red light, I couldn't see him since there was a bus in the way. He clipped into me, stopped and told me to watch where I was going. That's three times in about a year it has happened to me.

Rules of the road apply to everyone using it, be it cyclists, motorists or pedestrians.

TwoShedsJackson

Enforcement is the problem - I've seen cop cars sitting at the Dame St/South Great Georges St junction, oblivious as lots of cyclists (and a car or two) break the reds there. Yesterday a Traffic Corps car drove down Wicklow Street ignoring four cars parked on double yellows, all leaving just enough space for an average-sized car to get by.

They should be moving these twats on, at the very least.

EazyD

Danjamin1 wrote: »

Jesus not again

You saw the thread title, yet still open and post.

The Moldy Gowl

EazyD wrote: »

You saw the thread title, yet still open and post.

Almost like a cyclist coming up to a red light.

Danjamin1

EazyD wrote: »

You saw the thread title, yet still open and post.

Yes I did :pac:

takamichinoku

Every time I meet a cyclist powering on toward me on the salmon weird bridge's footpath, I'm extremely tempted to shove them out in front of a car. Somewhat stunned it's never happened.

Inspector Coptoor

I cycle to work everyday.
I wear high viz gear, proper lights on my bike and I obey the rules of the road 95% of the time.

I'll alwYs stop at a junction if there's a red light but I won't stop at a pedestrian crossing if there's a red light but no pedestrians - it drives me bits when pedestrians press the button, cross anyway (Jaywalking) and then the light goes red and there's no pedestrian there.

Other cyclist really infuriate me when they:
Have no lights
No helmet
Break stop signs & reds at junctions
Bunny hop onto a footpath.
Shoal at a junction and go right up to the top even though they are on a ****e bike with almost flat tyres and I'll just have to pass them out again.

Gongoozler

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

I cycle to work everyday.
I wear high viz gear, proper lights on my bike and I obey the rules of the road 95% of the time.

I'll alwYs stop at a junction if there's a red light but I won't stop at a pedestrian crossing if there's a red light but no pedestrians - it drives me bits when pedestrians press the button, cross anyway (Jaywalking) and then the light goes red and there's no pedestrian there.

Other cyclist really infuriate me when they:
Have no lights
No helmet
Break stop signs & reds at junctions
Bunny hop onto a footpath.
Shoal at a junction and go right up to the top even though they are on a ****e bike with almost flat tyres and I'll just have to pass them out again.

You can't really take such a high horse position if you only follow the rules of the road 95% of the time and pick and choose which lights you want to stop at.

Plus you might want to read up on the literature on helmet wearing, there's a reason some of us choose not to.

takamichinoku

There a few days ago I saw a cyclist using his bell to let people know he was coming up behin them, doing the indicating signals a bit further one ...it really looked like it's not /that/ hard to follow the rules. It's a mindset really, a lot of cyclists seem to think they've the same amount of freedom as a pedestrian but they can move faster, I've no clue how you can shake that off without prosecuting the **** out of a heap of them.


More cycling lanes and whatnot would help a bit, of course.

Peist2007

takamichinoku wrote: »

Every time I meet a cyclist powering on toward me on the salmon weird bridge's footpath, I'm extremely tempted to shove them out in front of a car. Somewhat stunned it's never happened.

I never ever move for cyclists on footpaths. The right of way is inherent in the name, footpath

Wicklowrider

fxotoole wrote: »

Cyclists do it more regularly than drivers though. They think that the law shouldn't apply to them and don't bother their holes obeying the rules of the road

If cyclists are such menaces, so dangerous and such huge lawbreakers how come I have third party insurance covering me while I am cycling and it only costs me €23 per annum?

OP, I'm sorry to hear you had such a horrible experience. Pity the cyclist wasn't arrested.

Giblet

sblythe wrote: »

Driver's break red lights too, you know. Are you sick of those?

Just because other people do something, doesn't make the original argument invalid.

"Oh x does y as well, so let's not complain about y at all in any way"

On my way to work, I see dozens of cyclist breaking lights, way more than I've seen drivers.

takamichinoku

Peist2007 wrote: »

I never ever move for cyclists on footpaths. The right of way is inherent in the name, footpath

On the salmon weir bridge in Galway, it's not so much about choosing to move out of the way as being mowed down by the pricks. They've really no excuse whatsoever for going up on the path there either.

Inspector Coptoor

Gongoozler wrote: »

You can't really take such a high horse position if you only follow the rules of the road 95% of the time and pick and choose which lights you want to stop at.

Plus you might want to read up on the literature on helmet wearing, there's a reason some of us choose not to.

I'm not in a high horse at all, I was explaining the (only) scenario when I go through a red.

I know why some people don't wear helmets, they tend to be safe cyclists.
It's the eejits who break the reds who tend to not wear them & should.

jkiamasnake

Wicklowrider wrote: »

If cyclists are such menaces, so dangerous and such huge lawbreakers how come I have third party insurance covering me while I am cycling and it only costs me €23 per annum?

OP, I'm sorry to hear you had such a horrible experience. Pity the cyclist wasn't arrested.

third party insurance should be compulsory!!! then i wouldnt have to fork out up to a grand to repair damage i was not responsible for!

The cheek of him to say "accidents happen". I was obviously glad he was ok because he smashed into my car at speed. I wouldnt be able to live with the guilt if he had dies even though he was the one taking his own life into account by breaking his red light!!! I was in so much shock I wasnt able to think straight and wasnt able to drive off for an hr after the incident occured.

I will go to the garda station now and inform my insurance company of it. Its all well and good people saying I should have done x, y and z, but at the time I was in so much shock and wasnt able to think properly. Its not like he had a reg number i could take down or anything

Wicklowrider

Peist2007 wrote: »

I never ever move for cyclists on footpaths. The right of way is inherent in the name, footpath

You are 100% correct. Some cyclists cycle on the footpath. And they should not. Round the corner from where I live there is a popular post office/ shop.
At any time there are numerous cars blocking the footpath. When My kids were younger I would have to move them off the path into the grass as cars drove up the path towards us. There are thick ignorant people using all kinds of transport and it baffles me what bug people have for thick ignorant cyclists in particular. For example, last week a girl I know was beaten and robbed on the luas. Using the logic of a lot of posters on these threads , that makes luas passengers violent robbing thugs. Narrow minded generalisations that are difficult to take seriously.

Turtyturd

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

Enforcement is the problem - I've seen cop cars sitting at the Dame St/South Great Georges St junction, oblivious as lots of cyclists (and a car or two) break the reds there. Yesterday a Traffic Corps car drove down Wicklow Street ignoring four cars parked on double yellows, all leaving just enough space for an average-sized car to get by.

They should be moving these twats on, at the very least.

In their defence there seems to have been an effort over the last while, at least by the Gards on foot to do something. Along the quays during morning traffic you will generally see them with some pulled over, the problem is for every one they stop five to ten are probably missed.

Chinasea

What is this bloo*dy ob national obsession with cyclists breaking red lights.

Cyclists are growing in numbers and I think that might be one of the problems why they are so hated. NO PROPER PUBLIC TRANSPORT INFRASTRUCTURE, never mind affordable public transport forced me and many others back on a bike.


I am happy to cycle, but it is very challenging. One of the worst hazards that I face on a daily basis is motorists simply opening their car door out in front of me. IT IS LETHAL. PLEASE LOOK IN YOUR SIDE VIEW MIRRORS.


As for cyclists cycling on a footpath. Again, another national obsession. Most of the footpaths (except in the city centre) are clear-ways for joggers, with low pedestrian usage and and should be shared with a SMARTER form of transport i.e cyclists.

Trebor176

jkiamasnake wrote: »

I am still in shock! I had an accident today and I am still shaking. I was at a junction this morning, my green filter light to turn right came on so I continued to proceed, I traveled about 15 feet and am almost into the junction where I wanted to travel to and a cyclist smashes into the side of my car doing considerable damage to my door. Thankfully the cyclist was ok too but I was in so much shock I could not think properly. The cyclist picked himself up, fixed his chain and continues on. I said to him that he broke a red light and that he will have to repair damage done to my car. He says accidents happen and that he doesnt have any money to fix it. He said he was late for work and continued on.

I am sick of cyclists everyday breaking lights...they seriously need to cop the f**k on and obey rules of the road.

I would have gone after the c**t, if I was you. After all, he did damage to your car door, due to his negligence. It was his fault, and not yours. I would have made sure he paid for the damage. Just reading about his attitude has made my blood boil.

I am sick and tired of seeing cyclists break red lights. It's no wonder that they are hated by motorists, and I guess pedestrians. I have had a few near misses with them, as I'd be trying to cross the road. It happened a few years ago that I was crossing Dame Street on to George's Street. The pedestrian light was green, so it was safe to cross. I was almost in the middle of the road when an arsehole on a bicycle came bombing down the middle of the road almost clipping me. He was gone before I had a chance to say anything.

The ones that piss me off are those on You Tube that get so easily riled by motorists passing them too close. They have to call out the registration of the car, give chase, and have pointless words with the motorists, who 9 times out of 10 don't give a toss. Some just go out of their way to cause trouble. And, on another point, why can't cyclists wear helmets or pads?

takamichinoku

Chinasea wrote: »

As for cyclists cycling on a footpath. Again, another national obsession. Most of the footpaths (except in the city centre)

Well, have a guess where most people are complaining about cyclists being on the footpath? :rolleyes:

First Up

jkiamasnake wrote: »

I am still in shock! I had an accident today and I am still shaking. I was at a junction this morning, my green filter light to turn right came on so I continued to proceed, I traveled about 15 feet and am almost into the junction where I wanted to travel to and a cyclist smashes into the side of my car doing considerable damage to my door. Thankfully the cyclist was ok too but I was in so much shock I could not think properly. The cyclist picked himself up, fixed his chain and continues on. I said to him that he broke a red light and that he will have to repair damage done to my car. He says accidents happen and that he doesnt have any money to fix it. He said he was late for work and continued on.

I am sick of cyclists everyday breaking lights...they seriously need to cop the f**k on and obey rules of the road.

I am as sick of cyclists who ignore the rules of the road as anyone, but something in this story doesn't quite click;

If he did so much damage to your car, how come the only consequence for his bike was a slipped chain?

Don't get me wrong - the gobshte deserved to have his bike written off and I wouldn't mind if he had skinned knees and elbows to think about as well.. I just don't get the relative damage.

jkiamasnake

First Up wrote: »

I am as sick of cyclists who ignore the rules of the road as anyone, but something in this story doesn't quite click;

If he did so much damage to your car, how come the only consequence for his bike was a slipped chain?

Don't get me wrong - the gobshte deserved to have his bike written off and I wouldn't mind if he had skinned knees and elbows to think about as well.. I just don't get the relative damage.

im not 100% sure what else happened him..but i remember him fixing the chain on his bike. a new door for my car is needed is all i do know having gone in to a mechanic. you can see his footprint on the door aswell.

and to be frank i could not give a **** about his bike. it was his choice to break a light and deal with whatever consequences arise.

im not sure if you have ever been involved in an accident but its not a nice experience and it fairly traumatizing!

Alias G

Svalbard wrote: »

Well I'm a cyclist and a driver too and I see cyclists breaking red lights everyday. Sometimes I think I'm the only cyclist who doesn't.

Spoken like someone who is lying through their teeth. I always observe red lights and there are always plenty of other cyclists alongside me doing the same. Of vcoiurse you get plenty who don't just like plenty of motorists run a red as the lights change.

yes there

Perfect example today, at a junction turning left, lights red I stop. Some stupid bitch with what looked like a picnic in a basket cycles past at her leisure turning left. Infuriating and im a cyclist so I know how drivers feel. Cyclists should be made pass a theory test or stay of the ****ing road and stick with the gimps on the footpath.

robertxxx

I'm sick of taxi men owning the roads and smashing all the rules of the road, same for dublin bus wannabe cyclist killers as well as I'm bigger than you bus eireann!

Muppets the lot of them.

First Up

jkiamasnake wrote: »

im not 100% sure what else happened him..but i remember him fixing the chain on his bike. a new door for my car is needed is all i do know having gone in to a mechanic. you can see his footprint on the door aswell.

and to be frank i could not give a **** about his bike. it was his choice to break a light and deal with whatever consequences arise.

im not sure if you have ever been involved in an accident but its not a nice experience and it fairly traumatizing!

Fortunately I haven't and I sympathise completely. Its impossible to state the percentage but we all know that a significant number of cyclists are impervious to the law and do what they like. Whether its from a sense of superiority or entitlement, or some combination of the two I don't know. They usually don't hang around long enough to ask them.

Gongoozler

Alias G wrote: »

Spoken like someone who is lying through their teeth. I always observe red lights and there are always plenty of other cyclists alongside me doing the same. Of vcoiurse you get plenty who don't just like plenty of motorists run a red as the lights change.

I meet plenty of other cyclists every day stopped at lights. I should take pictures, it seems there would be monetary value on one :pac:

The new thing with motorists now is not only zooming through amber lights, but continuing through seconds after they've turned red too. Not a single **** given. I see that on average 7 times per trip. Maybe around the same amount of cyclists I see going through red lights.

Oh I had a good one this morning, a delivery van parked beside the loading Bay, so that he was parked on the cycle lane and taking up half the driving lane too. And he had his back doors swinging open. And you wanna try cycle down merrion row and Baggott St any morning, barely room for one lane of traffic, despite the continuous double yellow lines, because everybody thinks they'll 'just be a minute'.