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Charity Skydive

  • 14-08-2014 3:08pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭siobhan08


    So I'm workin in France for the summer and was planning in do a sky dive to raise some money for a charity back home before I head back to Ireland. The sky dive place don't do charity sky dive as the are all about the money.

    What kind of options would I have?

    Foot the full bill of about €275 myself or depending on how much I raise use some of the fundraiser cash and cover the cost using some ye fundraised cash and money I put down myself.

    Would it be really bad form to use some of the fundraised money to paritally cover the cost?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Not at all,that's what charities are for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    siobhan08 wrote: »
    So I'm workin in France for the summer and was planning in do a sky dive to raise some money for a charity back home before I head back to Ireland. The sky dive place don't do charity sky dive as the are all about the money.

    What kind of options would I have?

    Foot the full bill of about €275 myself or depending on how much I raise use some of the fundraiser cash and cover the cost using some ye fundraised cash and money I put down myself.

    Would it be really bad form to use some of the fundraised money to paritally cover the cost?
    So you're definitely not trying to fund your flight back home?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭comongethappy


    You can't expect the skydive company to foot the bill for you.

    The cost of the jump has to be factored into the fundraising...... Or you can foot it yourself.

    Also.... Don't do a tandem.
    Tandeming is for the weak!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,812 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    I recently signed up for a Charity Skydive.
    Minimum of €500 has to be raised, or I can't jump.
    I think it's 260 for the jump, 240 for the charity.
    If the €500 isn't reached, anything that has been raised goes straight to the charity.

    So yeah, the providers of the skydive definitely need to be paid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭kingtut


    siobhan08 wrote: »

    Would it be really bad form to use some of the fundraised money to paritally cover the cost?

    Yes! Unless you specifically tell people when they are sponsoring you that not all of the money will be going to the charity and that some of it will be used to fund the jump itself.

    If I sponsored someone and found out they used some of the money to pay for the jump I'd be pretty pissed off!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Any other "once in a lifetime" recreational activities you would like funding for as well? Climb Mt. Kilimanjaro, rainforest trek in South America...oh it's for charity -that's ok then, where do I give my DD details?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭comongethappy


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    Any other "once in a lifetime" recreational activities you would like funding for as well? Climb Mt. Kilimanjaro, rainforest trek in South America...oh it's for charity -that's ok then, where do I give my DD details?

    Cheque made out to "cash" will do fine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭siobhan08


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    Any other "once in a lifetime" recreational activities you would like funding for as well? Climb Mt. Kilimanjaro, rainforest trek in South America...oh it's for charity -that's ok then, where do I give my DD details?
    No need to be sarcastic when I'm just asking a question. It not about trying to get it paid for. I was supposed to do a charity sky dive a few year ago but couldn't due to illness and now I want to try and fundraise for a cancer charity as in the last few years there has been a few cancer scares in the family.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    why would you having a laugh jumping out of a plane be reason for anyone to give money to charity?

    why not just give the cost of the skydive to charity yourself?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Doesn't seem right for the funds you raise for charity to go towards your "life experience". Same goes, for example, a trip to climb Kilamanjaro, etc.

    You should pay for the jump yourself and give all the money people give you to charity. People would be a lot happier to part with their cash that way imho.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭siobhan08


    Doesn't seem right for the funds you raise for charity to go towards your "life experience". Same goes, for example, a trip to climb Kilamanjaro, etc.

    You should pay for the jump yourself and give all the money people give you to charity. People would be a lot happier to part with their cash that way imho.

    It's exactly the same as the charity sky dives that are done in Ireland where only half the money you raise actually goes to the charity.

    I'm talking about for every €100 I manage to raise €10-€15 goes to cost of the dive and I foot the rest myself. So by doing that more money goes to the charity than if I was to do the charity dive in Ireland where going by the post above half the more goes to the cost of the dive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    siobhan08 wrote: »
    It's exactly the same as the charity sky dives that are done in Ireland where only half the money you raise actually goes to the charity.

    I'm taking about for every €100 I manage to raise €10-€15 goes to cost of the dive and I foot the rest myself. So by doing that more money goes to the charity than if I was to do the charity dive in Ireland where going by the post above half the more goes to the cost of the dive.

    I don't know how it is normally done (thanks for explaining). But still think it would be more appropriate to pay the full cost of the "experience" yourself and give all the money raised to charity. Otherwise you're effectively redirecting funds for charitable purposes for your own enjoyment (even if that is what everyone else does anyway).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    siobhan08 wrote: »
    It's exactly the same as the charity sky dives that are done in Ireland where only half the money you raise actually goes to the charity.

    I'm talking about for every €100 I manage to raise €10-€15 goes to cost of the dive and I foot the rest myself. So by doing that more money goes to the charity than if I was to do the charity dive in Ireland where going by the post above half the more goes to the cost of the dive.

    OR, you can just pay for the skydive yourself and give all the money you raise to charity???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    The only time it seems right to pay for someone to jump out of a plane is when they don't want to do it and it would be a laugh to see them go through it. If the person wants to do the dive it seems pointless to encourage them with clarity money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭EyeSight


    ScumLord wrote: »
    The only time it seems right to pay for someone to jump out of a plane is when they don't want to do it and it would be a laugh to see them go through it. If the person wants to do the dive it seems pointless to encourage them with clarity money.

    Agree. It's up there with giving money to people who want to volunteer in Africa for the summer.
    If i give to charity i want it to go to charity, not 50% to charity and 50% for some guy to persue his hobbie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Also.... Don't do a tandem.
    Tandeming is for the weak!

    Are there places that allow you to go solo on your first skydive? :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭comongethappy


    Are there places that allow you to go solo on your first skydive? :eek:

    Well.... Static line....
    Which can be tricky for a terrified noob!

    My one time jumping was a static line, took a while for the parachute unfurl properly & a lot of kicking the air to get control of the thing.... plus I forgot to brake properly so landed with the grace of a slow moving rock...

    Apart from that it was great!

    (So obviously we static line brethren look on the tandem jumpers with disdain).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Well.... Static line....
    Which can be tricky for a terrified noob!

    My one time jumping was a static line, took a while for the parachute unfurl properly & a lot of kicking the air to get control of the thing.... plus I forgot to brake properly so landed with the grace of a slow moving rock...

    Apart from that it was great!

    (So obviously we static line brethren look on the tandem jumpers with disdain).

    Forgive my ignorance, but does that not mean you don't get any freefall, and wouldn't it be from a much lower altitude?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭comongethappy


    Forgive my ignorance, but does that not mean you don't get any freefall, and wouldn't it be from a much lower altitude?

    Yep.... Its all too brief.

    Ours was only 3,500 ft

    But there is something about being all by yourself, thousands of feet up... Just you & silence & the views....
    (Not that having a guy strapped to my back is that bad either)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Yep.... Its all too brief.

    Ours was only 3,500 ft

    But there is something about being all by yourself, thousands of feet up... Just you & silence & the views....
    (Not that having a guy strapped to my back is that bad either)

    Ah. I've only done one and intend to do more, and would be happy to try static line. But for that first time out the 15,000 ft and freefall were a big part of what I wanted to experience. You really don't notice the guy on your back at all, since you're weightless at first and then being held by the harness. It would be cool to try it solo, but I don't know if I'll ever have the time or money to do enough jumps.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    It would be cool to try it solo, but I don't know if I'll ever have the time or money to do enough jumps.

    Set up a charity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    not 50% to charity and 50%
    Are you sure that its 50%/50%? From what i understood when these were popular in ireland, 50% paid for the jump, then the selling agent took the majority of the remaining 50%, the charity got something around 10%.

    Total con :(


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Man I do hate this kind of thing. Cover the costs of the skydive yourself and then give every penny that other people donate, to the cancer charity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭dmc17


    I going on the piss on Saturday night for charity. If anyone wants to donate feel free to do so. Donations will initially go towards my night out and whatever change I find in in my pockets in the morning will go to charity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    kneemos wrote: »
    Not at all,that's what charities are for.

    What!!

    For moochers to piggy back on to tick things off their bucket lists??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Raise it for a proper local charity at least,not the bottomless pit of "cancer charity".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,576 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I went for a skydive in a place, paid for it myself because it was a fun thing to do, the place was actively encouraging people who couldn't afford it to do it for charity. Not cool. I'm more than happy to see someone do something for charity, be it a marathon or a proceeds go to charity match but if any of it is being used to subsidise someone's hobby then I'm out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    It's not charity if someone else pays for your skydive...

    "Yeah, I'm travelling the world for a year, for charity you see. Care to donate 1000 euros?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭sammy37


    Why not run a local mini marathon or something else that does not cost money instead of expecting other people to fund your thrills. I had this a few years ago from someone who wanted to trek the inca trail in Peru for "charity" or in other words fund their expensive holiday. I cant afford a holiday myself not to mind fund other peoples. The only thing they got from me was a cold shoulder.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    Couldn't you combine it with your flight home. Land in the middle of your home town. The local TD is bound to turn up for it and you could offset the cost of your flight home.

    ** Simples ** :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭tashiusclay


    I signed up for a charity skydive a few months ago, I requested that I was paying the full cost of the dive myself out of my own wallet, and any money I raised for charity through the jump all went to my chosen charity, thats the way it should be done imo? Why should whoever was decent enough to have donated be funding my fun, especially in these hard times, the charity is what I wanted them to be funding, not me. I was even happier that I did it this way in the end as the plane ended up falling out of the sky a minute or so after take off and crashing in a field, so at least the people who donated didn't feel so hard done by, as they would have essentially being chipping in towards a failed jump in the end with the way it turned out.

    Pay out of your own pocket, let the charity have 100% of whatever money is fundraised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 464 ✭✭The Th!ng


    Way back in the mid 1990's I did a tandem skydive in Las Vegas with the Flying Elvis's from 'Honeymoon In Vegas' fame. Jumped out at 12,500 ft. In freefall for nearly a minute. Amazing experience. Was high on adrenaline for about 2 days afterwards. Bought a T-Shirt from them that read "Why Gamble With Your Money When You Can Gamble With Your Life"

    One of the instructors we had had almost a total of 24 hours of freefall time accumulated over thousands of jumps. The Royal Airforce have a parachute display team which our instructor had taught both in the UK and the States.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    Any other "once in a lifetime" recreational activities you would like funding for as well? Climb Mt. Kilimanjaro, rainforest trek in South America...oh it's for charity -that's ok then, where do I give my DD details?

    Spot on mate ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    siobhan08 wrote: »
    No need to be sarcastic when I'm just asking a question. It not about trying to get it paid for. I was supposed to do a charity sky dive a few year ago but couldn't due to illness and now I want to try and fundraise for a cancer charity as in the last few years there has been a few cancer scares in the family.
    If fundraising for charity is a key element for you then how about this this for an alternative. Raise money for the dive and charity, but then instead of you taking part, donate the skydive to someone suffering from the particular cancer, e.g. terminally ill teenager.

    1) Some money goes to charity and helps in a general sense (hospice care, new research, etc.)
    2) Money that doesn't, pays for someone else who may never get that opportunity again to have a memorable experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭sammy37


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    If fundraising for charity is a key element for you then how about this this for an alternative. Raise money for the dive and charity, but then instead of you taking part, donate the skydive to someone suffering from the particular cancer, e.g. terminally ill teenager.

    1) Some money goes to charity and helps in a general sense (hospice care, new research, etc.)
    2) Money that doesn't, pays for someone else who may never get that opportunity again to have a memorable experience.

    Excellent idea that and it would show that you are genuinely raising money for charity and not for your own thrill.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    Can I start a charity for getting a new TV room theatre setup ? I need a minimum of €3000 else I wouldn't be able to lounge around!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    Back in the day when I did it there was no talk of charity/sponsorship anything. You just paid for training, paid for the jump and off you went.

    You could get a fiver or so reduction by packing the chute yourself. No one took that option though. I wonder why? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    why would you having a laugh jumping out of a plane be reason for anyone to give money to charity?

    why not just give the cost of the skydive to charity yourself?

    Ah but this way people can have their experience as well as look like such a great guy/gal to everyone... Yuck, such people make me more sick than those who are upfront about their nastiness!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭kingtut


    I was even happier that I did it this way in the end as the plane ended up falling out of the sky a minute or so after take off and crashing in a field

    Wait wtf :confused::eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    If fundraising for charity is a key element for you then how about this this for an alternative. Raise money for the dive and charity, but then instead of you taking part, donate the skydive to someone suffering from the particular cancer, e.g. terminally ill teenager.

    1) Some money goes to charity and helps in a general sense (hospice care, new research, etc.)
    2) Money that doesn't, pays for someone else who may never get that opportunity again to have a memorable experience.

    Lovely idea


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    BeerWolf wrote: »
    Can I start a charity for getting a new TV room theatre setup ? I need a minimum of €3000 else I wouldn't be able to lounge around!

    You've given me an idea. Maybe people could sponsor me to lose my threesome virginity. I'm thinking about €5k - Hey its a special night I wanna do it in some style.

    So if you could all set up your DDs.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You've given me an idea. Maybe people could sponsor me to lose my threesome virginity. I'm thinking about €5k - Hey its a special night I wanna do it in some style.

    So if you could all set up your DDs.

    DDs? You're very specific (and ambitious).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭MistyCheese


    I have been inspired! I want to do my bit for charity too. So who wants to donate towards my sponsored pub crawl?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Anyone want to find my charity piss up?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    DDs? You're very specific (and ambitious).

    Well I'm thinking - if I can touch people's soft side - maybe gain a little traction, it could become a regular thing. The gift that goes in giving.

    I'm really getting into it, I'm genna do posters.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well I'm thinking - if I can touch people's soft side - maybe gain a little traction, it could become a regular thing. The gift that goes in giving.

    I'm really getting into it, I'm genna do posters.

    Whoooosh


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Ernest Ambitious Thermostat


    Whoooosh

    It's ok I got it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭A2LUE42


    On the radio this morning publicising a 10K run in Ethiopia.

    http://www.businessandleadership.com/sustainability/item/47083-chris-donoghue-to-do-10k/

    Same crowd do Inca trail treks and the like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    A2LUE42 wrote: »
    On the radio this morning publicising a 10K run in Ethiopia.

    http://www.businessandleadership.com/sustainability/item/47083-chris-donoghue-to-do-10k/

    Same crowd do Inca trail treks and the like.

    40 people from Ireland taking part, do you know whether or not they cover their own expenses or does it come from the money raised?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭A2LUE42


    40 people from Ireland taking part, do you know whether or not they cover their own expenses or does it come from the money raised?

    The fact that they don't say that the people cover their own expenses would lead me to believe that it is taken from the charity money raised.


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