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The postal service is an outdated means of communication

  • 12-08-2014 5:53pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 75 ✭✭


    The postal service is an outdated means of communication that belongs in the 20th century. I get all my bills and correspondence via email. I predict the death of the postal service in our lifetime. An Post is losing money hand over fist and the only thing keeping it alive at the moment is online shopping delivery via the likes of Amazon and Ebay.

    Email doesn't have the vast overheads of the inefficient postal service – bricks and mortar offices across the country, sorting office and the machinery inside, paying a postman, his van, petrol etc. I realise the culchies are quite fond of their rural post office (as long as someone else is paying for it, in true socialist fashion) but it doesn't make economic sense to keep them open. God forbid you have to drive to the nearest city to collect your dole.

    The postman’s job will soon join bank teller and supermarket check-out assistant as one that has been replaced by a machine. At least machines don’t grow beards and join unions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭ardmacha


    Boards.ie is an outdated mode of communication, all the hip people use Twitter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    truffle5 wrote: »
    The postal service is an outdated means of communication that belongs in the 20th century. I get all my bills and correspondence via email. I predict the death of the postal service in our lifetime. An Post is losing money hand over fist and the only thing keeping it alive at the moment is online shopping delivery via the likes of Amazon and Ebay.

    Email doesn't have the vast overheads of the inefficient postal service – bricks and mortar offices across the country, sorting office and the machinery inside, paying a postman, his van, petrol etc. I realise the culchies are quite fond of their rural post office (as long as someone else is paying for it, in true socialist fashion) but it doesn't make economic sense to keep them open. God forbid you have to drive to the nearest city to collect your dole.

    The postman’s job will soon join bank teller and supermarket check-out assistant as one that has been replaced by a machine. At least machines don’t grow beards and join unions.



    Try attaching a packet of rashers, some cheese n onion taytos, and some Barry's teabags to your brother in England in an email.

    Get back to me with how it works out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    truffle5 wrote: »
    The postman’s job will soon join bank teller and supermarket check-out assistant as one that has been replaced by a machine. At least machines don’t grow beards and join unions.

    You got a problem with Bearded men?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,612 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    How will i get my tax for my car?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 680 ✭✭✭MS.ing


    they said that about shops too ;):o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    truffle5 wrote: »
    The postal service is an outdated means of communication that belongs in the 20th century. I get all my bills and correspondence via email. I predict the death of the postal service in our lifetime. An Post is losing money hand over fist and the only thing keeping it alive at the moment is online shopping delivery via the likes of Amazon and Ebay.

    Email doesn't have the vast overheads of the inefficient postal service – bricks and mortar offices across the country, sorting office and the machinery inside, paying a postman, his van, petrol etc. I realise the culchies are quite fond of their rural post office (as long as someone else is paying for it, in true socialist fashion) but it doesn't make economic sense to keep them open. God forbid you have to drive to the nearest city to collect your dole.

    The postman’s job will soon join bank teller and supermarket check-out assistant as one that has been replaced by a machine. At least machines don’t grow beards and join unions.


    I know a culchie with the interweb and all,indoor toilet too posh fecker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    Yay for less human contact, yay for humanity. :rolleyes:

    I didn't realise communication was outdated when it serves its purpose of communicating


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Hotfail.com


    I absolutely hate this idea of making everything mechanised/electronic just because it's more expensive for people to do the job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,229 ✭✭✭marklazarcovic


    coz emails are soooooooooooo safe :P


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    How will i buy cheap things off the internet if i can't have them shipped to me?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    How will i buy cheap things off the internet if i can't have them shipped to me?

    Courier maybe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    Try attaching a packet of rashers, some cheese n onion taytos, and some Barry's teabags to your brother in England in an email.

    Get back to me with how it works out.

    You'll be able to fly over with them yourself, cheaper than posting sooner or later. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭DaveDaRave


    How will i get my drugs ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Try attaching a packet of rashers, some cheese n onion taytos, and some Barry's teabags to your brother in England in an email.

    Get back to me with how it works out.

    Your brother should have the cop on to head down to Asda. I'm only back and I'm laden with Barry's and Taytos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭dar100


    Yes pigeons are where it's at:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    I absolutely hate this idea of making everything mechanised/electronic just because it's more expensive for people to do the job.

    People are inefficient and expensive.

    Computerization is the way of the future, no matter what the luddites think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Hotfail.com


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    People are inefficient and expensive.

    Computerization is the way of the future, no matter what the luddites think.

    I know it is, but I still hate the idea of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Courier maybe.

    Try to avoid any site that uses them.Somebody has to be in to collect the parcel,really annoying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    1996 called. It wants its thread back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    1996 called. It wants its thread back.

    Tell him to bog off! 2014 wants it!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    But how will I ever deliver horses heads through an email to my dearest and closest friends?

    We still use this in Leitrim



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    I still have the stash of porn mags in storage just in case the internet goes down. They will be worth a small fortune if that happens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    I know it is, but I still hate the idea of it.

    With computers taking over menial jobs the average person will have more leisure time and live in a more productive world.

    They could work, if they wish work at higher level jobs like medicine and finance, or spend their time studying for no reason other than the pursuit of knowledge.

    Maybe I'm just an optimist :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    kneemos wrote: »
    Try to avoid any site that uses them.Somebody has to be in to collect the parcel,really annoying.

    Alot of deliveries from an post need signing on delivery too though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭takamichinoku


    I was in the National Postal Museum in Washington DC there a few years ago, small compared to most of the other Smithsonian affiliated (i.e. free) ones there, but probably one of the nicest ones there (with an absolutely amazing stamp collection).

    Anyways, near the end part they had this section where you people were invited to write notes about their fondest memories of the postal service and stick them onto a wall. Instead of using them for that, almost every single one of them on the wall was like "GRRRRRRRR! MY TAXES! KILL IT!".
    It really killed my mood that seemingly everyone after going through this extremely nice museum wouldn't have wavered at all, didn't allow themselves to be caught up in the nostalgia of the whole place ...however, you can't keep such a huge operation running for reasons like that either.

    Wouldn't say it's dead yet or anything though, and if you were to replace it or privatise it, it'd have to be a long and carefully planned out procedure. I've no faith that it would be done effectively (see Royal Mail).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Alot of deliveries from an post need signing on delivery too though.

    You can pop along to the depot at your leisure though if you miss them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,878 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Without looking it up guess how many items of post are delivered in Ireland every day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    kneemos wrote: »
    You can pop along to the depot at your leisure though if you miss them.

    True good point, couriers just get cranky if they cant deliver their load.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    kneemos wrote: »
    You can pop along to the depot at your leisure though if you miss them.

    In my case it is a long journey. I'm living in a city centre, not ballybackassnowhere. Plus an post charge for attempting another delivery.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    How many of youse ever arrived home after school and there was a envelope waiting for you from a lovely young one containing a perfumed letter, written on fancy paper, and a few pics?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Without looking it up guess how many items of post are delivered in Ireland every day.

    Prob way off here.

    But with a population of say 4million, I'm guessing around 20million per day?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    truffle5 wrote: »
    it doesn't make economic sense to keep them open.

    Any figures on this? Or are you just making it up?
    truffle5 wrote: »
    God forbid you have to drive to the nearest city to collect your dole.
    Any figures on how many unemployed people own cars?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,612 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Plus an post charge for attempting another delivery.

    Whhhhaaaatttttt??
    Where are you getting this from?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    blade1 wrote: »
    Whhhhaaaatttttt??
    Where are you getting this from?

    If you aren't there when they deliver a package you can either collect it yourself or pay 3.50 online to have them attempt it again at some random point in the next 3 days. That's how it was about a year ago anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭dmc17


    Try attaching a packet of rashers, some cheese n onion taytos, and some Barry's teabags to your brother in England in an email.

    Get back to me with how it works out.

    Next time I'm in England I'll try this and see how he reacts


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    If you aren't there when they deliver a package you can either collect it yourself or pay 3.50 online to have them attempt it again at some random point in the next 3 days. That's how it was about a year ago anyway.

    Not around here. Our postman will take the parcel the next day if necessary. We get a superb service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,612 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    If you aren't there when they deliver a package you can either collect it yourself or pay 3.50 online to have them attempt it again at some random point in the next 3 days. That's how it was about a year ago anyway.

    Ah forget about online!
    Ring them up and if the guy you are talking to is any bit decent at all, he'll ask the postman to drop it out again or if you could have a word with the postman even.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    The business model looks like it is in serious trouble. The days of some overpaid semi-state worker driving around the country with a couple of letters to houses in the back end of beyond is one that is unsustainable. An expansion of the Parcel Motel concept would provide far greater cost efficiencies and allow for private operators to enter the market with greater ease.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    I communicate by scroll, sealed with a unique wax stamp, delivered by a trusted associate on horseback.










    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    They need to get competitive with parcel shipping, anything over 2kg and it big money, far cheaper to send by courier.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Kelly06


    kneemos wrote: »
    You can pop along to the depot at your leisure though if you miss them.

    Which is usually in your local area and not 20 miles away !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    What a poisonous, sneering post. Presumably your letterbox is nailed shut OP?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Think we'll have a postal service for a ling time to come,whatever the cost.
    Don't know if they can be replaced by email or not but the posties round here certainly look laden down every morning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    Parcel delivery is big business now. Letters still have their role too for more official correspondence. Wow, email might kill the postal service - now that's a maverick notion that wasn't realised many many years ago at all! :eek:
    The postal service will probably be downsized, but I don't see how it could disappear entirely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭Pwindedd


    Magaggie wrote: »
    Parcel delivery is big business now. Letters still have their role too for more official correspondence. Wow, email might kill the postal service - now that's a maverick notion that wasn't realised many many years ago at all! :eek:
    The postal service will probably be downsized, but I don't see how it could disappear entirely.

    Agreed - All the time businesses need to provide or receive original documents the postal service will live on, you can't email a cheque, tax disc, or signed document. Our post at work can sometimes contain literally hundreds of letters. Email is great for most things, but I can't help but think that any one who sends me an email Xmas card is a cheap-assed lazy bastid!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭my teapot is orange


    I do things online as much as possible, but if I want to send someone a card to mark a special occasion, I want to send them a proper card that I will write and post, not some e-card sh$te.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    Pwindedd wrote: »
    Agreed - All the time businesses need to provide or receive original documents the postal service will live on, you can't email a cheque, tax disc, or signed document. Our post at work can sometimes contain literally hundreds of letters. Email is great for most things, but I can't help but think that any one who sends me an email Xmas card is a cheap-assed lazy bastid!


    Cheques are on the way out. The use of a paper disc in a holder on the windscreen of your car to show you've paid motor tax is an outdated idea. Will probably be replaced with a system rather like that used to ensure a car has been insured. There will always be use-cases where a signed document is needed. They'll lessen as well though as technology develops. Digital signatures and multi-factor authentication can be used.

    I don't think a postal service will completely disappear. We'll always need to have stuff delivered to us. But the idea the service will operate anything like it does today doesn't hold up to much scrutiny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    truffle5 wrote: »
    The postal service is an outdated means of communication

    Is that you big Phil? Trying to spin and justify more cuts are ya?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    Is that you big Phil? Trying to spin and justify more cuts are ya?

    What are you on about? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    What are you on about? :confused:

    Need more wattage ya?


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